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[Alchemist21]

VOTE: BBT

It’s been a long time since I’ve gotten to play with you!

[Alchemist21]

Spoiler:

[Alchemist21]

Hey Alchemist, long time no see man. How are you?

In other news, TChill might be scum!

I’ve been ok. Mostly just been looking after my parents. How have you been?

[Alchemist21]

Idk why this was posted but this was hilarious!

[Alchemist21]

I think Rei is Town.

[Alchemist21]

Can’t say. Call it gut for now.

[Alchemist21]

VOTE: Nauci

I don’t like how in the same post they give a description of irrelephant as an excellent scum player who can’t be caught by a single post only to then claim to have caught them by a single post. You gave no reference to their Town game and to me it reads like you trying to say “hey this guy’s dangerous as scum and you won’t be able to catch him, but don’t worry because I know exactly how they work and have already caught them for you!”

[Alchemist21]

@Mod, BBT voted Nauci a while back

@Irrelephant,

Do you have any scumreads other than NSG? Is your style more of a Townhunting style?

Fixed. -Mod

[Alchemist21]

To see who would and who wouldnt make a big deal out of it.

What’s the difference between these 2 to you and why are both different than “big deal with bad reasoning”?

[Alchemist21]

To see who would and who wouldnt make a big deal out of it.

What’s the difference between these 2 to you and why are both different than “big deal with bad reasoning”?

you can find eager town and scum trying to push lynches early.

But how would are you determining the difference between eager Town and eager scum?

[Alchemist21]

To see who would and who wouldnt make a big deal out of it.

What’s the difference between these 2 to you and why are both different than “big deal with bad reasoning”?

you can find eager town and scum trying to push lynches early.

But how would are you determining the difference between eager Town and eager scum?

ah. thats the question. I feel i've become better at it here recently.

I'm not explaining that process though.

Well did you at least get any meaningful reads from your reaction test? You’re passing off your lack of response as a method of scumhunting but aren’t sharing any of the reads you got from it. Why should I believe you’re not just bullshitting?

[Alchemist21]

Alchemist

- townreading him because I know what his gut feeling about Rei is, and had he been scum he wouldn't have announced it (unless he's Rei's scumbuddy, which I'm not buying)

Rei

- townreading her based on the same gut feeling as Alchemist, but with some reservations stemmed from my own experience as scum

Tchill

- honestly I do see where he's coming from, though he's too radical about lynching lurkers; his claim in 203 is a bit iffy but I can't make much out of it currently; somewhat town

DrD

- not much to read him on other than his vote on me and I honestly don't see it as a bad vote, he called it as he saw it; slight town

NSG

- don't really have anything to draw a read on her from; null

>Lalendra

Nauci

- she kinda pushed her case on Irrelephant and I can see why people are scumreading her for that, but I think she might just be hyperaware of him. On the other hand, her worries are not necessarily unfounded. Null.

ejjinami

>>76
>btw, the signups for BBT's and DrDoli's wagons are OFFICIALY OPEN! Feel free to join, there will be a 100% discount, this day only!
This feels like lack of commitment. Even with the vote parked on DrD since RVS, it still feels like "hey guise which of these wagons is more believable and should I get in?". And then he just kinda forgets about DrD (complete with vote) while pushing a case against BBT.

I do like 151 though, and the case on BBT isn't without basis, but right now can't townread him. Lower null.

Kop

- only 5 posts, but actually bothered to take part in RVS? Possible scum.

Mumble

- he's made 5 reads so far, yet given no reason for any of them. Too passive. Somewhat scum.

BBT

- ejjinami's case on him isn't bad, and in addition he's been tunnelling Tchill from the very beginning of the game, despite camouflaging it with reading other people. Somewhat scum, could also be lyncher.

Irrelephant

>>88
>(wait, his? Twaiin are you a he I'm sorry yes you are, your avi got me)
Did you really feel the need to actually post this?

>>200
>lol did NOT mean to click post yet
And did you really not mean to? I now see what Nauci was warning about, these posts of yours really feel like you're putting on an act.

VOTE: Irrelephant

@TWAIN

I can see your point on all those except the Irrelephant read. Those just seem like typical mistakes someone could have made as either alignment.

[Alchemist21]

I think Tchill is Town. I’d expect scum to play a bit more carefully than he has and not be hard-focused on a lurker.

Nauci wagon is still a great wagon.

It kinda feels like Irrelephant is trying to convince himself Nauci is Town more than he’s trying to convince everyone else. Like he wants to be in the game with her and doesn’t want her to be scum that gets knocked out early. Even though he’s defending her and pushing the CW it just doesn’t feel like scum motivation to me.

[Alchemist21]

Nauci wagon is still a great wagon.

What do you think of the people on nauci’s wagon? Do you think it would influence your read on her?


Btw, @Tchill, I’d be glad if you answered 302. I did not write it just to let it stay there. thanks

I’ve been leaning Town on BBT. Mumble I’ve been null on (but that 331 looks Town). Kop I’m not sure about and could probably wagon him for a bit if it helps me with my reads. I think my read on her could be influenced by other voters if they were scummy enough to make me think they’re taking advantage of it but nobody gave me that vibe.

[Alchemist21]

@Rei

I haven’t seen anything from Nauci to reverse my read and the CW to her also that formed also makes me think she’s likely scum.

[Alchemist21]

Scum trying to defend their partner would make a counterwagon and this one did grow quickly. Though I am Townreading 2 that were on that CW and am null on a 3rd so I could be wrong.

[Alchemist21]

You forgot about Lalendra.
Why do you think BBT is town and how confident are you in that read?

Didn’t realize Lalendra was on the wagon. They’re null to me.

I think BBT is Town for the way he’s trying to build wagons. I think he’s trying to see who will or won’t vote on certain people to get a sense of where scum are. I think he’s good as either alignment so it’s not a lockTown read but strong enough that I’d let him do his thing for now.

[Alchemist21]

This ^ is the only read on nauci you posted. Is this what you were talking about?

Yes.

[Alchemist21]

Rn, I would like to lynch among: Kop, BBT, Laendra. There are a few more, but tbh I’d like to check them again before placing them anywhere and there’s no way I’ll be able to do it today.
Aaand I prob have to check NSG, cuz I didn’t really get a bad feeling from their posts, but people keep saying that he has a meta…
Kop is still my top pick though, his post didn’t really change anything for me. I’ll check his previous games after I get home, but idk how much can that change.

I could vote Kop. I couldn’t remember anything they’ve posted and I just checked their ISO and it was mostly just a defense if Lalendra’s activity.

If one of Kop/Lalendra is scum then I think the other is Town. I don’t think scum put that much effort into defending a buddy’s lurking like Kop did for Lalendra.

VOTE: Kop

[Alchemist21]

I think kop is putting in effort.

Even though his reads are super weird and I don't agree with them I could see them coming from a "tryhard" town so to speak.

Yeah kop is weird. Doesn't make him scum.

He has provided more content in his post than mumble or lalendra.

If scum isn't in those 3 players I GAURANTEE they'd rather lynch kop than mumble or lalendra.

VOTE: kop

Since other people pushed him first maybe he'll actually get lynched.

This is a really weird progression on Kop. You go from soft defending him to going “maybe he’ll actually get lynched.” Has your read on him changed?

[Alchemist21]

I’d like to especially point out the last 2 quotes. Going straight from saying “scum would prefer to lynch Kop” to “let’s lynch kop since that’s where the votes are” is such a weird disconnect in your logic.

P-edit: what changed your read? Were you ever actually Townreading him, because it sounded like you were in some of those posts?

[Alchemist21]

What are your thoughts on Nauci?

[Alchemist21]

Rn, I would like to lynch among: Kop, BBT, Laendra. There are a few more, but tbh I’d like to check them again before placing them anywhere and there’s no way I’ll be able to do it today.
Aaand I prob have to check NSG, cuz I didn’t really get a bad feeling from their posts, but people keep saying that he has a meta…
Kop is still my top pick though, his post didn’t really change anything for me. I’ll check his previous games after I get home, but idk how much can that change.

I could vote Kop. I couldn’t remember anything they’ve posted and I just checked their ISO and it was mostly just a defense if Lalendra’s activity.

If one of Kop/Lalendra is scum then I think the other is Town. I don’t think scum put that much effort into defending a buddy’s lurking like Kop did for Lalendra.

VOTE: Kop

This is kinda setting up the next days lynch if I'm reading it correctly. When I flip town, what way are you going to read lalendra?

I’d still be null on lalendra. I’m not saying of one flips Town the other must be scum, I’m saying the opposite. I see it possible that you’re both Town but impossible that you’re both scum.

[Alchemist21]

What if Tchill’s just scum and all of Mumble, Nauci, and Kop are Town?

VOTE: Tchill

[Alchemist21]

Happy birthday.

[Alchemist21]

I'm honestly super fucking baffled at what's going on. Alchemist + BBT both voted Kop and then immediately after like 20 posts Alchemist switches to tchill and BBT gets ready for a Tchill push
Can you guys both elaborate what the fuck is going on?
Like between your lasts votes and your previous post what has changed.

Also can we get more votes on irrelephant? Please?

I wagoned Kop mostly to see how others would react to the wagon. Tchill’s weird progression on Kop made me think Tchill was likely scum piling on the Kop wagon.

[Alchemist21]

I'm honestly super fucking baffled at what's going on. Alchemist + BBT both voted Kop and then immediately after like 20 posts Alchemist switches to tchill and BBT gets ready for a Tchill push
Can you guys both elaborate what the fuck is going on?
Like between your lasts votes and your previous post what has changed.

Also can we get more votes on irrelephant? Please?

I wagoned Kop mostly to see how others would react to the wagon. Tchill’s weird progression on Kop made me think Tchill was likely scum piling on the Kop wagon.

Did you really wagon me, considering you were the third on the wagon on me? The groundwork was already there before the wagon really took off in reality.

Yes. Joining a wagon on someone is wagoning them.

[Alchemist21]

So who else wants to lynch Tchill today?

@Irrelephant

You agreed with me about his Kop progression and put him dead last in your reads list.

[Alchemist21]

^Don’t take too long to decide because we only have 2 days left until deadline.

[Alchemist21]

I still don’t like the progression on his Kop read but Tchill doubling down on refusing to share how he’s coming to his conclusions is a Towntell imo. I’ll never understand the type of player who thinks holding back all their opinions is a good thing, but I know that they exist.

Kop vs Tchill wagons are worth thinking about too. Kop’s wagon was a lot easier to get votes on, while people actively avoided the Tchill wagon and the only ones who followed me are players that Tchill is calling to be lynched. Either Tchill is Town to that many people or scum are actively avoiding be wagon. I think they would actively avoid the wagon for one of two reasons: Tchill is scum, or Tchill is Town actively pushing Townies and distracting away from scum. I’m leaning towards the latter.

What’s really important to note is that Irrelephant had Tchill as his biggest scumread but preferred the Kop wagon because it was larger. Now he’s completely abandoned the Kop wagon in favor of an NSG vanity wagon. I’m not quite sure why scum leaves the Kop wagon in this scenario but he has actively avoided the Tchill wagon for reasons that don’t line up with how he’s actually played. Irrelephant is now my biggest scumread.

VOTE: Irrelephant

[Alchemist21]

@alch what’s my scum motivation for avoiding the tchill wagon? That he’s my partner? Doesn’t that only make sense if he’s scum?

I felt ~equal about most of my scumreads because none of my scumreads have had strong reasoning yet this game. There hasn’t been a ton of content to go on. I also stayed on Kop over tchill also to generate Kop content, which didn’t work but oh well.

But if I understand correctly NSG’s alignment can pretty accurately be read by her activity/strength of play. She’s now certainly scummy, whereas the rest of my scumreads are meh. I definitely prefer a wagon on her over anyone else

I already said scum would want to avoid the tchill wagon if he and the lurkers he’s pushing are all Town. And that’s exactly what you did.

[Alchemist21]

I still don’t like the progression on his Kop read but Tchill doubling down on refusing to share how he’s coming to his conclusions is a Towntell imo. I’ll never understand the type of player who thinks holding back all their opinions is a good thing, but I know that they exist.

Kop vs Tchill wagons are worth thinking about too. Kop’s wagon was a lot easier to get votes on, while people actively avoided the Tchill wagon and the only ones who followed me are players that Tchill is calling to be lynched. Either Tchill is Town to that many people or scum are actively avoiding be wagon. I think they would actively avoid the wagon for one of two reasons: Tchill is scum, or Tchill is Town actively pushing Townies and distracting away from scum. I’m leaning towards the latter.

What’s really important to note is that Irrelephant had Tchill as his biggest scumread but preferred the Kop wagon because it was larger. Now he’s completely abandoned the Kop wagon in favor of an NSG vanity wagon. I’m not quite sure why scum leaves the Kop wagon in this scenario but he has actively avoided the Tchill wagon for reasons that don’t line up with how he’s actually played. Irrelephant is now my biggest scumread.

VOTE: Irrelephant

@BBT
@Nauci

Thoughts from you two on this?

[Alchemist21]

What’s your reason for scumreading Dr Dolittle?

[Alchemist21]

@BBT
@Nauci

Thoughts from you two on this?

Why appeal to these two players?

Because I like BBT and because Nauci has some experience with you.

[Alchemist21]

Alchemist what do you think about BBT's play regardless of how much you like him? You think it's odd he made an excuse when I brought up his play style this game?

I remember him being fairly active as both alignments so if he says he’s busy I believe it.

[Alchemist21]

Alchemist what do you think about BBT's play regardless of how much you like him? You think it's odd he made an excuse when I brought up his play style this game?

I remember him being fairly active as both alignments so if he says he’s busy I believe it.

Yeah but scum are the first to make excuses for their play. Also you didn't touch on his play. Just the excuse. I'm more worried about his content this far and your thoughts of it.

I made a comment earlier in the game about how it looked like he was trying to get wagona formed and how I think he was doing it to see who would go where as a way to guage reactions and I saw it as Towny.

[Alchemist21]

What’s your reason for scumreading Dr Dolittle?

Mostly surface level scum hunting. Like, his scum hunting doesn't feel real if that makes sense?

I see. I might loon back at the time I played with him if I can find it but I remember misreading him for something that turned out to just be the way he does things and I’ve been keeping that in mind this game. I might have had the same issue then with him as you do now.

[Alchemist21]

What’s your reason for scumreading Dr Dolittle?

Mostly surface level scum hunting. Like, his scum hunting doesn't feel real if that makes sense?

I see. I might loon back at the time I played with him if I can find it but I remember misreading him for something that turned out to just be the way he does things and I’ve been keeping that in mind this game. I might have had the same issue then with him as you do now.

Nevermind all this. Only game I can find is where I was scum and he was Town. Unless there’s a later game with him I can’t find I don’t know why I remembered it the way I did.

[Alchemist21]

Yeah I feel atm.

There's one scum in lalendra, DDL, kop.

There's one town that scum want to mislynch.

Then there's just someone thrown in there because it's convenient for both town and scum to throw in there.

This post reminded me someone I had checked earlier had only defended Lalendra and made me think they couldn’t be scum together and it was Kop.

I could see a scenario where Kop defends Lalendra because it masks his own lurking but would lynch her if necessary.

I still prefer an Irrelephant lynch today but will switch to Kop if necessary.

[Alchemist21]

What do you think of my take on Irrelephant though?

It nudges me to see him more Towny but only a little. If I’m understanding it correctly you’re saying he’s more static in his votes as scum. Maybe that’s true and I’m wrong about him but not being static feels like something scum could easily do in this game because wagons have been on several players.

[Alchemist21]

I guess it just looks easy because there aren't very competitive wagons

I'm okay with hammering this one because of deadline, but I'd like to wait for Irrelephant/Alch/NSG to post again

I’m willing to hammer as well. There’s only about 8 hours left so waiting for NSG is probably not a good idea given how little they’ve posted.

[Alchemist21]

VOTE: Northsidegal

[Alchemist21]

I think BBT is Town for the way he’s trying to build wagons. I think he’s trying to see who will or won’t vote on certain people to get a sense of where scum are. I think he’s good as either alignment so it’s not a lockTown read but strong enough that I’d let him do his thing for now.

and btw, could you walk me through that one?
why did you get the feeling he's baiting instead of just "not caring because he's scum".
and what is your read on him now?

I think if he didn’t care he wouldn’t have tried to see who would join wagons even when he wasn’t on them (look back at early game), rather he would be more likely to sit back and let wagons form more naturally without having to put himself out there.

That said I was probably way off base D1 so I’m doing a reset on my reads.

[Alchemist21]

I think it's off Bbt didn't open up with a push on me

Irrelephant was an easy nk for scum. I think only one person was worried about him being scum.

Why would BBT push on you? He was asking for a DDL wagon yesterday.

[Alchemist21]

VOTE: alchemist

I think it's off Bbt didn't open up with a push on me

Irrelephant was an easy nk for scum. I think only one person was worried about him being scum.

Why do you think I would make the push I did on Irrelephant as scum?

[Alchemist21]

@ejjinami

What are your reads right now?

[Alchemist21]

also don't think scum!BBT makes that kill

Why not?

[Alchemist21]

Irrelephant was kinda obv town imo though. Not just top poster.

Who was sussing him day 1?

There was me and DDL actually voting him. You and BBT made positive remarks about my case on him, but didn't move to it. Rei and Nauci were openly against voting him. I don't remember anyone else commenting on him.

I'm still not sure a wagon couldn't have happened if there had been more time in the Day after I made my case, but I'd say a lot of the resistance to that irrelephant wagon was because he was being Townread, and I agree with you that he was likely killed for being active and Towny.

Your point about DDL/Lalendra is interesting. I'm not against a vote on either of them or BBT at this point.

VOTE: DrDolittle

[Alchemist21]

I don't really like Creature's defense of BBT here. I don't think there's anyone who'd really agree with Creature on that and the way he brings it up is just awkward.

[Alchemist21]

VOTE: BBT

P-edit: I personally think I was giving DDL more space than necessary yesterday because I was remembering misreading him in the past but then it turned out I was wrong. It is a slot I think could stand to have some more pressure.

Also what are your thoughts on NSG?

[Alchemist21]

@Scio do you have any thoughts about d1?

nah, I have just started reading today. should finish sometime tomorrow and have some thoughts to share.

So about those thoughts to share...

You got 'em?

[Alchemist21]

B: he has fairly strong VCA and that may incriminate them from d1 or the future

Who in this game would think/know this other than you to the point of it factoring into a NK?

[Alchemist21]

wtf 7 pages?

[Alchemist21]

viewtopic.php?f=94&t=76651

This?

[Alchemist21]

i'm on page 20 and i will have to hang laundry...

...so in half an hour?

It's been 3 halves of an hour now.

[Alchemist21]

(expired on 2018-08-20 18:37:00)

If you have nothing by the end of this countdown I'm permavoting you.

[Alchemist21]

24 hours is plenty of time for you to post content. If you're not even going to play then I don't know why you even replaced in.

[Alchemist21]

I directly asked for your thoughts and you hit me with that "I'm at page 20"

Then you said you'd have something tonight and pushed it back to tomorrow. I'm even giving you that tomorrow that you've asked for.

You also came in during the Night Phase so you've also had that extra time to go through things.

Your slot needs content and I'm going to hold you to delivering on it.

[Alchemist21]

^Exactly.

@Sajj, I've made it perfectly clear what I'm trying to achieve.

[Alchemist21]

Why did Tchill get replaced?

[Alchemist21]

Creature has quite a bit actually.

[Alchemist21]

Now that's more like it.

When you come back could you point to specific posts that got you your read on Ejjinami? The statement you made about DDL is exactly how I feel about Ejjinami.

[Alchemist21]

Why is the one slot you're willing to call scum the one slot that isn't here? Looking for an easy target? Bussing weak teammate?

VOTE: Nauci

[Alchemist21]

generally, he feels fine, his content goes in every direction and it looks like a stream of consciousness kind of posting

Hmm. That might be why I have trouble remembering his posts.

[Alchemist21]

I think NSG should just be replaced. I know she’s V/LA but she hasn’t posted once this phase and her V/LA is set to last a whole more week.

[Alchemist21]

I’m starting to get the feeling that DDL vs BBT is scum theater.

VOTE: BBT

[Alchemist21]

Like at this point their pushes on each other seem forced.

[Alchemist21]

I think forced is self-explanatory but to clarify it feels like you’re both pushing each other for the sake of it.

Also I could lynch DDL first if others are willing to go there. I think your wagon is larger right now though.

[Alchemist21]

You know scum bus and distance and there’s always an obvious reason why when they do.

Your focus on each other makes it feel scum v scum to me.

[Alchemist21]

I'll be completely honest, I was tunnelling irrelephant yesterday, and the flip caught me by surprise and I didn't have another strong scum read carrying over from yesterday. After rereading, my top 2.5 scum prospects are

BBT: his votes all of yesterday were very opportunistic on Nauci and on Kop. His reason on Nauci was that a post read fluff and 'safe', ignoring the fact that Nauci has been one of the leading posters and putting in effort at 163 (other than the weird 81 post praising irrel). The reason seems fake as hell, and more like an excuse to push to a lynch (Nauci was at L-3 and BBT was the 4th piling vote) Then, BBT switches to Kop as sees that wagon gaining momentum - and doesn't fully commit to Kop " If we could, I would lynch TChill or DDL over Kop." as if he knows kop will flip town, meanwhile setting up a lynch on me and tchill and potentially irre.

NSG: NSG has contributed nothing so far to this game in terms of scumhunting. Her interaction with Irrelephant reads scum. I also dont like the blatant buddying up to creature (i think with potential goal that if buddied up, creatures prolific posting can balance out her lurking a bit??), and i'm inclined to believe people's meta read on lurking scum!nsg after glancing a couple of her scum game

ejjinami: his posts have been prolific and has not been seriously scrutinzied, but honestly there's not too much substance in these posts. Early game there was a couple of scum hunting, but by late, it was mostly asking questions (but not in a way that is trying to find scum - more like trying to gauge how people feel...) and commenting of gameplay style. Idk there's just smthing odd in his posts that rub me in a wrong way, but honestly more of a gut read.

VOTE: BBT

Like I see this as a typical scum “talk about 3 people and include a buddy” post.

Maybe I’m wrong about one of you two but I can guarantee if DDL is scum he has a partner in this list of 3.

[Alchemist21]

If the buddy isn’t you I’d say it’s more likely NSG.

I also don’t think it’s suboptimal play because it’s something that could payoff later down the road if neither of you is lynched today. You know that this is easily something scum could do.

[Alchemist21]

I’m being surprised by a lot of replacements in this game.

And why isn’t NSG being replaced?

Who even put in the Mumble replacement request? Because I don’t see it in the replacement thread.

[Alchemist21]

Anyway hello to all the new people!

[Alchemist21]

Stay safe out there!

Do you guys even have evacuation routes in Hawaii?

[Alchemist21]

RIP

[Alchemist21]

@HeWhoSwims, Thoughts on a possible BBT/DDL scumteam?

[Alchemist21]

I think the new people will help boost activity.

[Alchemist21]

Because he let them stick that thing up my hello.

[Alchemist21]

Creature, where did DDL go from your scum reads?

Toranaga, you replaced into a slot, thinking it would be a scum slot, even though you dislike playing scum?

I thought that was weird too.

[Alchemist21]

Everyone who started this game and doesn’t get replaced is getting a T-shirt at the end.

[Alchemist21]

I had no idea mods could change an OP to be under their name.

I’m still good with a DDL wagon btw.

[Alchemist21]

VOTE: DrDolittle

@Creature, I only have one or two posts even talking about you and I’ve done a lot more in this game. If that’s all you’ve seen from me you need to read my posts again.

[Alchemist21]

we are lacking controversy in this game

Pineapple doesn’t belong on pizza.

Change my mind.

[Alchemist21]

Dangit

[Alchemist21]

This is a huge misrep. You can read my day 1 -it’s public. I did have no other strong reads, and after tunneling irrelephant all day. Anything I say today would be consistent since there was nothing to map to.

I didn’t really agree with BBT in that post because there have been multiple people (including me) that reset reads after D1.

[Alchemist21]

Usually, I find scum, tell everyone else they're scum and then we lynch them leading to a town victory!

Yayyyyy!

Sound like a plan?

does anybody remember if somebody was scumreading BBT for this? i think they did but i don't remember who and when

Eijji did in 73

[Alchemist21]

VOTE: BBT

[Alchemist21]

Long twilight.

[Alchemist21]

VOTE: DDL

[Alchemist21]

I’ll actually read through these last couple pages when I have time.

[Alchemist21]

Bets on DDL/Creature being the last 2 scum. Maybe replace Creature with HeWhoSwims because I agree he had a weird reaction to the gunsmith claim.

[Alchemist21]

Bets on DDL/Creature being the last 2 scum. Maybe replace Creature with HeWhoSwims because I agree he had a weird reaction to the gunsmith claim.

reads on other players
please and thank you

They’re all varying degrees of Town. Nauci’s the weakest Townread.

[Alchemist21]

Bets on DDL/Creature being the last 2 scum. Maybe replace Creature with HeWhoSwims because I agree he had a weird reaction to the gunsmith claim.

Wanna vote/lynch HWS with me?

I can, though I still prefer DDL for a couple of reasons. Why do you want to lynch outside your guilty again?

Either way, I’ll help with HWS.

VOTE: HeWhoSwims

[Alchemist21]

If you have to lynch me before DDL that’s fine as long as it gets done. Just remember a couple things:

I'll be completely honest, I was tunnelling irrelephant yesterday, and the flip caught me by surprise and I didn't have another strong scum read carrying over from yesterday. After rereading, my top 2.5 scum prospects are

BBT: his votes all of yesterday were very opportunistic on Nauci and on Kop. His reason on Nauci was that a post read fluff and 'safe', ignoring the fact that Nauci has been one of the leading posters and putting in effort at 163 (other than the weird 81 post praising irrel). The reason seems fake as hell, and more like an excuse to push to a lynch (Nauci was at L-3 and BBT was the 4th piling vote) Then, BBT switches to Kop as sees that wagon gaining momentum - and doesn't fully commit to Kop " If we could, I would lynch TChill or DDL over Kop." as if he knows kop will flip town, meanwhile setting up a lynch on me and tchill and potentially irre.

NSG: NSG has contributed nothing so far to this game in terms of scumhunting. Her interaction with Irrelephant reads scum. I also dont like the blatant buddying up to creature (i think with potential goal that if buddied up, creatures prolific posting can balance out her lurking a bit??), and i'm inclined to believe people's meta read on lurking scum!nsg after glancing a couple of her scum game

ejjinami: his posts have been prolific and has not been seriously scrutinzied, but honestly there's not too much substance in these posts. Early game there was a couple of scum hunting, but by late, it was mostly asking questions (but not in a way that is trying to find scum - more like trying to gauge how people feel...) and commenting of gameplay style. Idk there's just smthing odd in his posts that rub me in a wrong way, but honestly more of a gut read.

VOTE: BBT

Like I see this as a typical scum “talk about 3 people and include a buddy” post.

Maybe I’m wrong about one of you two but I can guarantee if DDL is scum he has a partner in this list of 3.

I still firmly believe this is a scum post by DDL and from what we know the 2 Townies and a buddy thing holds true (NSG was scum, the other 2 were/are Town).

Despite the attitude he had last Day, I believe BBT is a strong player and this is a scumread we did agree on. Don’t just let him go if I die first.

[Alchemist21]

Odd. I thought Rei had crumbed Bulletproof. Would have potentially explained the lack of a second kill N1.

[Alchemist21]

I’m just a VT.

[Alchemist21]

Odd. I thought Rei had crumbed Bulletproof. Would have potentially explained the lack of a second kill N1.

You think Rei would have been shot at N1?

Possibly. Though now that I think about it, knowing that Tchill was the vig makes it less likely. He would have shot one of the lurkers he was on.

[Alchemist21]

Oh we are all claiming? I'm JOAT, cop, doc, track kills only. I copped alch day 1 and got town. I tracked creafure day 2 and got no result.

A JOAT with a Cop in a game with a Gunsmith? I don’t think so.

Oh we are all claiming? I'm JOAT, cop, doc, track kills only. I copped alch day 1 and got town. I tracked creafure day 2 and got no result.

"No result," not didn't go anywhere? Hmmmmm

Creature claimed ascetic. That would give a “no result” if it happened.

[Alchemist21]

A Gunsmith, a Neapolitan, and a Cop walk into a bar...

[Alchemist21]

Oh we are all claiming? I'm JOAT, cop, doc, track kills only. I copped alch day 1 and got town. I tracked creafure day 2 and got no result.

Can you go into a bit of detail on why you chose them?

I want the answer to this as well.

[Alchemist21]

^Neapolitan specifically checks for VT, not any Vanilla role.

[Alchemist21]

I mean he’s probably still lying because he had to come up with something that sounded Town and explained a Gunsmith guilty, and his only claimed result is on dead scum.

[Alchemist21]

Mod can't answer whether or not Neapolitan would have a gun

Really? That’s odd considering it’s a Normal. I know I checked the wiki and it said Cops have guns and it extended to several variants. Neap wasn’t mentioned specifically but I figured it was included since it’s an offshoot of Vanilla Cop.

[Alchemist21]

Hot take:
both of them are scum

but disagree with that one, HWS is obviously the worse one

That’s what I was telling you before.

[Alchemist21]

Is HWS claiming not using action N2?

Yes.

[Alchemist21]

Lol ok I forgive you because that face is hilarious.

[Alchemist21]

^Normal guidelines say a player can’t act and kill on the same Night.

[Alchemist21]

DDL is practically scumclaiming with that Ejji vote

[Alchemist21]

He’s swimming up shitz creek.

[Alchemist21]

Good game everyone!

Still v proud I was the NK as a VT.

:fistbump:

[Alchemist21]

Ueah Daychat is a very hit and miss ability.

I’ve seen some teams use it well but others not at all