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Post Post #1465 (isolation #200) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 10:59 am

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In post 1456, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1451, GuerillaWoo wrote:Oooh it's a narrative now.

Shallow, superficial, not engaging content, skimming posts and forming confident reads off them while pretending you read them only to later backpedal when you're called out.

Saying shit like "town has a tendency to stick to reads even when being disproven" only to then literally say "ok, but I didn't realize that's what you meant".

When you read the above paragraph, btw, I'm pretty sure your playstyle here dictates that you use your "99% of the time" statement to disagree, using the fact that your vote's on me to defend backpedaling every time.

And at the endgame you're gonna look back at this and realize: this was your mistake. This is what shallowness looks like.

Good enuff a definition for ya bud?
It’s A definition. I’d call it wrong but honestly it’s more you’re calling my reads shallow when from this post it looks like you consider my PLAY shallow.
Wtf does this even mean lol. You gotta find another excuse, honestly, Gamma a little self-respect bud

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Post Post #1473 (isolation #201) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 11:06 am

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In post 1458, Gamma Emerald wrote: GW keeps changing the reason he’s pushing me, which is scummy
So I take it this is your scum partner?


It's called having more than one reason, silly. Having a fingerprint and then DNA isn't "moving the goalposts", it's a rich read. You'd know about that if you were town and weren't trying to throw out every excuse. I didn't read it, that's not my definition, actually you never called my reads shallow, actually it's not my reads it's my PLAY, you're scum cuz you didn't include town reads and just shaded everyone, actually you did include town reads but you didn't label it a readlist so how was I supposed to know

How was i, a poor humble towny like the rest of you, supposed to know being called someone who hops on wagons without reading the posts or understanding the reads is akin to making shallow reads

Town never admits to being wrong. Actually what I meant was 99% of the time they don't, I used that number recently and it's definitely connected

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Post Post #1478 (isolation #202) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 11:13 am

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Have fun prostrating yourself in my ISO to retroactively justify your OMGUS vote lmao

You'd think you could be less obvious when called out but nah, this is how it goes with you huh
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Post Post #1483 (isolation #203) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 11:15 am

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In post 1474, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 398, GuerillaWoo wrote:I'm just mulling over this exchange rn. I honestly don't know if he's lying or not here. Like I think he genuinely doesn't understand that it wasn't directed at him, but I dunno, he could just be saving face. Like he knew he was lying earlier and now he's trying to play up the VI card? Does that make sense?

I dunno. UNVOTE: for now. Like if he were scum, what would the point be in in blatantly drawing attention to himself with these big VI gestures? If I were to assume he were scum this would be a very public and risky gambit play.

Although it's not like I haven't seen bigger gambits, I've used the VI routine myself, and AS TOWN.

Legit don't know what to think here. Is he really not seeing it? How? Is anyone else here reading that post up there the way he is?
Why not reconsider when someone else brought this up before? This feels a little posturey
And oh fucking man I’m already getting ready to tear into your most recent post
Hah where was it brought up before Mr scum, show me
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Post Post #1484 (isolation #204) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 11:17 am

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In post 1482, Gamma Emerald wrote: Honestly Idk if I even want to dignify the rest of this post with a response based on that
Too perfect.


Yeah.

VOTE: Gamma
VOTE: Gamma
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Post Post #1489 (isolation #205) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 11:21 am

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In post 1480, Saudade wrote:
In post 1443, GuerillaWoo wrote:
In post 1441, Saudade wrote:it'll be real cool if you two can vote wilky
Read the context of what Gamma's saying on this page then convince me he's not scum.
He's igniting a dead game with reads
wouldn't do that as scum would you
Dude's hopping through barely formed reads that he then walks back but then conventiently becomes incapable of reexamining his stance cuz "town doesn't change its mind when disproven", or some shit.

Dude literally set up his own barometer for bullshitting and made it so he never raises that alarm. Then he proceeded to bullshit by standards he didn't invent.
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Post Post #1491 (isolation #206) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 11:22 am

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In post 1485, Gamma Emerald wrote:@GW this is where
In post 372, Saudade wrote:@Gorilla
I dont think scum starts such ridiculous fabricated pushes, hes probably just.. wrong town

Tommy on the other hand
MMMMMMMMM
such delicious lynch bait
Saudade says the same thing about his push just being too much sticking his neck out
Bud you're so full of shit you're bloating. Nothing to do with my reasoning.
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Post Post #1495 (isolation #207) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 11:26 am

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In post 1494, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 436, Tommy wrote:I just isolated everyone in turn, and all the people who've posted substantial content seem at least somewhat townish at the moment. Which probably means someone is fooling me. Still null are DVa, ProHawk and Flubbernugget. I would park my vote on the DVa wagon, but he's so new he just looks like an easy target. And I'd have ProHawk for company.
More stalling around DVa
Maybe Creature is right about me v GW being tvt


mmmhh like a symphony i just played y'all. timing's on beat. uhuh keep walking that shit back
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Post Post #1500 (isolation #208) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 11:30 am

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In post 1496, Gamma Emerald wrote:Okay yeah that’s fair. But I think the only read I’ve walked back is you, which is because our real-time interactions make me think you’re scum. Your content during the readthrough has been going both ways.
:/ i'm sorry my real time interactions with you make you think i'm scum but then once confronted you stare at the floor shuffle your feet and drop it.


we'll talk about it post game when you ask me what you did wrong as scum
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Post Post #1503 (isolation #209) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 11:32 am

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In post 1499, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 398, GuerillaWoo wrote:I'm just mulling over this exchange rn. I honestly don't know if he's lying or not here. Like I think he genuinely doesn't understand that it wasn't directed at him, but I dunno, he could just be saving face. Like he knew he was lying earlier and now he's trying to play up the VI card? Does that make sense?

I dunno. UNVOTE: for now.
Like if he were scum, what would the point be in in blatantly drawing attention to himself with these big VI gestures? If I were to assume he were scum this would be a very public and risky gambit play.


Although it's not like I haven't seen bigger gambits, I've used the VI routine myself, and AS TOWN.

Legit don't know what to think here. Is he really not seeing it? How? Is anyone else here reading that post up there the way he is?
The highlighted is exactly what Saudade was referring to
He called him wrong, I said he could be VI. The difference is in intent of the accused. VIs create WIFOM. It's an appeal. My argument was he leaned into it either as town or scum.


Go sell your snake oil elsewhere
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Post Post #1504 (isolation #210) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 11:34 am

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In post 1501, Gamma Emerald wrote:Hm.
Does anyone see the word misrepresent in this post? I don’t. Now it’s possible it was in another one, if it was w/e
HAHAHA

"hey guys i found this thing so i'm gonna make a whole thing about it but if i'm wrong whatever cuz i just read over this part and i know i'm wrong but look at me i'm making readss!!! that's what town doesss!!!"
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Post Post #1506 (isolation #211) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 11:34 am

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In post 1502, Gamma Emerald wrote: Lol nothing you’re doing now is improving how you look to me
your approval means nothing to me
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Post Post #1507 (isolation #212) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 11:36 am

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Calling it right now, Gamma and Creature for scum team.
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Post Post #1511 (isolation #213) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 11:37 am

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In post 1508, Gamma Emerald wrote: Fuck you. Go to fucking hell.
sorry not sorry
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Post Post #1512 (isolation #214) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 11:38 am

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how dare you call me out on blatantly misrepresenting something!! the gloves are now off!!!
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Post Post #1514 (isolation #215) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 11:41 am

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holy shit you aren't even at L-3 yet


y'all, vote gamma. this is an absolute bullshit claim.
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Post Post #1519 (isolation #216) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 11:45 am

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OHOHOH omg thank you!! :D
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Post Post #1521 (isolation #217) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 11:46 am

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i literally didn't even have to push there dude and you fucking scumslipped like

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Post Post #1526 (isolation #218) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 11:49 am

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In post 1516, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1514, GuerillaWoo wrote:holy shit you aren't even at L-3 yet


y'all, vote gamma. this is an absolute bullshit claim.
So? I’m just tired of this bullshit push which even if town is 100% conf bias.
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Post Post #1528 (isolation #219) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 11:51 am

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In post 1523, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 478, Saudade wrote:Alch is town
Gambit townlean
you null
Doughboy is the only one left...........
ignored everyone in this entire thread except for me and Gorilla
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
This is legit wrong
DB had a massive spat with ER, how do you miss that
who aren't you shading though. me, saudade, wilky, and tommy. go ahead, scumread DB, i'm waiting

"guys is this a read, am i reading"
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Post Post #1530 (isolation #220) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 11:51 am

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In post 1527, Gamma Emerald wrote:Yeah no if you’re trying to say what I think you are you’re off the mark
That post was address you trying to call claiming at L-3 scummy
What am I saying, Gamma?
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Post Post #1532 (isolation #221) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 11:54 am

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c'mon gamma, tell the class what i'm saying
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Post Post #1535 (isolation #222) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 11:57 am

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In post 1533, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1530, GuerillaWoo wrote:
In post 1527, Gamma Emerald wrote:Yeah no if you’re trying to say what I think you are you’re off the mark
That post was address you trying to call claiming at L-3 scummy
What am I saying, Gamma?
You might be thinking I’m responding to the whole post
I’m not, it’s just hard to indicate that quickly on mobile
no no, walk me through the aneurysm you just had. What about the whole post? What portion were you responding to and what about "the whole post" changes the meaning of your post?
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Post Post #1538 (isolation #223) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 12:02 pm

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Gamma don't consult your partner, we know there's a daychat. Just answer.
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Post Post #1548 (isolation #224) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 12:13 pm

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In post 1540, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1516, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1514, GuerillaWoo wrote:holy shit you aren't even at L-3 yet


y'all, vote gamma. this is an absolute bullshit claim.
So? I’m just tired of this bullshit push which even if town is 100% conf bias.
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You are saying I wasn’t even at L-3 to discredit my claim, I responded with why I decided to claim before L-3.
If you take it as a response to the whole post, it includes the “bullshit claim” part which honestly is exactly opposite of the case. The evidence of my claim being true exists.
Uhuh nope. You literally admitted to claiming to escape a push made by one person you're fucking voting for that you just townspewed. You god damn dolt.
In post 1541, Creature wrote:actually we don't really need GW's vote anyway
dude i'm not lynching toranga lol open your eyes
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Post Post #1553 (isolation #225) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 12:20 pm

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In post 1550, Gamma Emerald wrote:Okay
The thing is it was getting detrimental to me rereading the game as I was spending a lot of time responding to you
oh god, i just realized your fakeclaim was what you meant with "the gloves are off" lmao.
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Post Post #1555 (isolation #226) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 12:25 pm

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Gamma, help me out here. You wanted your fakeclaim to "blast" me cuz I'm scum but my townie push on you justifies a claim because it's wrong? Lotta math involved here just help me out
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Post Post #1556 (isolation #227) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 12:27 pm

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In post 1551, Creature wrote:
In post 1548, GuerillaWoo wrote:dude i'm not lynching toranga lol open your eyes
We are, with or without your help.
yeah i can tell you we're not


gamma or bust.
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Post Post #1558 (isolation #228) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 12:37 pm

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yeah keeeeep walking back, just peeeeedal backwards. nothing to see here folks
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Post Post #1562 (isolation #229) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 12:47 pm

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You called my "bullshit" wagon the reason you claimed.

I'm not talking about your carefully worded "even if townie it's confirmation bias" cuz that dogshit gave you deniability. You know this. You made a BS explanation of a claim where you had deniability in mind and you know what alignment you're claiming to. Quit lying.
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Post Post #1566 (isolation #230) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 12:48 pm

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Ezekel, so his eagerness to lynch something, anything, is bad
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Post Post #1568 (isolation #231) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 12:49 pm

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In post 1564, Saudade wrote:god Gorilla and DoughBoy place so much alike
The fuck did you just say to me
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Post Post #1573 (isolation #232) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 12:51 pm

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$10 he's scum partners with gamma. Their interactions together are blegh
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Post Post #1576 (isolation #233) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 12:55 pm

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In post 1575, Saudade wrote:What slot did Gamma replace in

you gonna imply that EzekelRage is scum with whatever slot Gamma replaced into as well??
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Wot.
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Post Post #1583 (isolation #234) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 1:08 pm

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I buy wilky's absence right now though. He comes in, talks about his WiFi or PC being broken, then gets prodded (or was that someone else?), then goes V/LA for like forever.

Wait for the kick. Admittedly that slot sucks ass but I can wait. Gamma and Creature way better potential
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Post Post #1606 (isolation #235) » Mon Oct 08, 2018 5:14 am

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Wish you could like posts but :thumbsup:
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Post Post #1607 (isolation #236) » Mon Oct 08, 2018 5:16 am

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Also Tommy who did you think was scum before Gamma?
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Post Post #1610 (isolation #237) » Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:09 am

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Oh right you were VLA lol
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Post Post #1627 (isolation #238) » Tue Oct 09, 2018 12:58 am

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Y'all are insane if you don't wanna lynch that claim.
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Post Post #1636 (isolation #239) » Tue Oct 09, 2018 10:51 am

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If we find out at the end that the scum team is Flubber and Gamma I'm never playing mafiascum again.
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Post Post #1643 (isolation #240) » Tue Oct 09, 2018 12:07 pm

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In post 1638, Saudade wrote:
In post 1636, GuerillaWoo wrote:If we find out at the end that the scum team is Flubber and Gamma I'm never playing mafiascum again.
I mean if they are both scum we already won which is why I dont think its either of them and they are both real
How did we already win in that scenario?


Way I see it: Flubber is for sure town, Gamma is for sure scum.
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Post Post #1645 (isolation #241) » Tue Oct 09, 2018 12:20 pm

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@mod:
is wilky nearing a prod yet? It has been more than 120 hours since his VLA.
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Post Post #1649 (isolation #242) » Tue Oct 09, 2018 12:26 pm

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In post 1647, Saudade wrote:Who cares whats he near at
Smash him with the hammer already
What's the case for wilky?
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Post Post #1664 (isolation #243) » Tue Oct 09, 2018 12:34 pm

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I just realized Flubber can target someone and this time not say anything, then Gamma can tell us who he targeted and Flubber can confirm.

But if any of y'all object to lynching him then, you're fucking sus or blind af
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Post Post #1677 (isolation #244) » Tue Oct 09, 2018 12:40 pm

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In post 1652, Saudade wrote:
In post 1649, GuerillaWoo wrote:
In post 1647, Saudade wrote:Who cares whats he near at
Smash him with the hammer already
What's the case for wilky?
Apathethic player, and i townread most players atm so hes the left out nut
Ehhhh. I dunno, on the one hand I'd like to just get rid of the slot itself. On the other this is... pretty flimsy. Inactivity isn't scumminess.


Would you consider lynching Gamma if he fails that test I outlined?
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Post Post #1680 (isolation #245) » Tue Oct 09, 2018 12:42 pm

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¿Would you help me lunch Gamma if he fails that test I mentioned?
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Post Post #1690 (isolation #246) » Tue Oct 09, 2018 12:49 pm

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In post 1682, Saudade wrote:Gamma should track someone he thinks is scum
Doc should be on Gamma or wifom =]
Why Gamma or WIFOM?
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Post Post #1699 (isolation #247) » Tue Oct 09, 2018 12:58 pm

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Ok well I'm stumped cuz I'm telling you Gamma is scum. I'm being crazy reasonable when I say I'll lynch your silly null slot if I know 100% tomorrow whether he's a tracker or scum.


And like 100% certainty is insanely generous cuz he could be a mafia tracker, but I'm willing to wager he's bullshitting even that and he's not a tracker at all, just plain joe scum gambiting his ass off.
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Post Post #1702 (isolation #248) » Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:09 pm

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Someone find me a better way to figure out if Gamma is fakeclaiming and I'll do it.
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Post Post #1703 (isolation #249) » Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:17 pm

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Toranga why is Saudade scum?
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Post Post #1706 (isolation #250) » Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:32 pm

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Whoops just figured out why my plan won't work LOL
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Post Post #1708 (isolation #251) » Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:38 pm

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Intent to hammer wilky


First day was an accidental lynch, second day is a literal vegas bet with 8:1 odds.

How long do y'all want. Cuz I'm getting sleepy
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Post Post #1709 (isolation #252) » Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:40 pm

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To continue the trend, on D3 we should play Mario kart and whoever gets last place gets lynched
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Post Post #1740 (isolation #253) » Tue Oct 09, 2018 10:12 pm

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In post 1723, Saudade wrote:funny two people have declared intent to hammer wilky at the same time
I fell asleep


Anyway, actual intent to hammer in 45 mins now. If anyone has anything to say do it before 12pm UTC.
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Post Post #1741 (isolation #254) » Tue Oct 09, 2018 10:30 pm

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In post 1736, Gamma Emerald wrote: Explain what you were referring to here?
I was asking how he's so dumb.


Last chance to claim your real role cuz if wilky flips green I'm tunneling the shit out of you tomorrow.
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Post Post #1742 (isolation #255) » Tue Oct 09, 2018 10:43 pm

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Eh guess no one's interested.

Fuck the deadline I'm gonna go play something else VOTE: wilky

Buncha droolers in here tbh
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Post Post #1744 (isolation #256) » Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:51 pm

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I just wanna get rid of the slot and give people no more excuses to actually read something


Also lol I assumed he's already L-1. Oh well.
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Post Post #1745 (isolation #257) » Wed Oct 10, 2018 3:26 am

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Someone do something
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Post Post #1757 (isolation #258) » Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:04 am

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In post 1746, Gamma Emerald wrote: Why was he “dumb”?
He was wagon hopping based on spite, clearly the one inflaming the big argument, and then acting like "ok you guys you know this whole big argument is a distraction from scum hunting"

So I wondered whether he was bullshitting himself or just plain dumb. Question yet unanswered. That dude had no sense and I'm glad he flaked.
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Post Post #1769 (isolation #259) » Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:37 am

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In post 1766, Tommy wrote:@Mod are you planning to prod wilky?
Honestly just lynch him. We have two days left and even if he got replaced by a player who is unlike the last two in the slot, we have no one we're all behind lynching. If you might think it's unfair to lynch the slot and not the player, it's been one occupied by distinctly problematic players.

Plus we didn't listen to Saudade on D1 and lynched ProHawk so
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Post Post #1782 (isolation #260) » Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:09 am

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In post 1759, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1757, GuerillaWoo wrote:
In post 1746, Gamma Emerald wrote: Why was he “dumb”?
He was wagon hopping based on spite, clearly the one inflaming the big argument, and then acting like "ok you guys you know this whole big argument is a distraction from scum hunting"

So I wondered whether he was bullshitting himself or just plain dumb. Question yet unanswered. That dude had no sense and I'm glad he flaked.
Okay
I thought it was a reaction to him voting you
It was. I mean he'd just voted for me cuz I told him to shut his trap and not answer for DB when I ask DB a question.
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Post Post #1783 (isolation #261) » Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:31 am

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My actual scum list is gamma/creature. Gamma for that awful claim and other stuff and creature just cuz their interactions felt forced, like creature knew to use my alignment to call our back and forth TvT to quickly clear Gamma. Then they were just slightly, very meekly, abrasive to one another. Ngl I was pretty keen on lynching Ezekel today and Creature hasnt made that go away. He was my first proper read and we should've lynched him D1. Way I see it that whole fight with DB was him muddying the waters then trying to get some townie cred by faking an end to the fight for town's sake.

Wilky and Toranga still null, I think my issue is I can only read people when they're not doing catch up or when their catching up makes sense with what's currently going on. Toranga at least is here regularly and doing his best. Wilky can eat rope rn, idc. I guess my concern is if he flips town we're gonna have to work extra hard D3 but it's getting pretty dull in this game. Just hammer him already.

Tommy went from "I'd bet money he's town" to a soft lean. Saudade is solid and comfortable here. Flubber got townspewed so thx gamma. Alchemist wild card town. Could totally end up being scum, but I doubt we'd catch him.
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Post Post #1791 (isolation #262) » Thu Oct 11, 2018 3:08 am

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There are 27 hours left. Wilky was prodded at 7 pm UTC. By 7 pm UTC today the search for a replacement will start. That gives us 22 hours starting then for a replacement to be found by the mod and then come in and get read by us with a spontaneous claim.

Gamma, Toranga, and Alchemist: you need to decide whether to wait on this hammer with Tommy, get it done, or present a new compromise lynch.
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Post Post #1793 (isolation #263) » Thu Oct 11, 2018 4:07 am

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Yanno actually, if we go into a no lynch D2, would that be bad? What's the meta on that?

Also Tommy do you know what blackmail is? Where am I blackmailing anyone? Just do something, I'm so god damn bored here.
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Post Post #1857 (isolation #264) » Sat Oct 13, 2018 2:05 pm

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Lmao, I joke about this a lot but I'm just gonna sheep Saudade from now on
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Post Post #1876 (isolation #265) » Sun Oct 14, 2018 12:34 am

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In post 1874, Tommy wrote:Intent to hammer.
Wait lol


I need to get coffee and get my head back in this game.
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Post Post #1877 (isolation #266) » Sun Oct 14, 2018 12:42 am

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God damn it. Sorry my cat drank paint thinner and now we're going to the vet. No coffee and no game right now, sorry
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Post Post #1880 (isolation #267) » Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:04 am

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This isn't a multi, I'm not Robbnva.
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Post Post #1882 (isolation #268) » Sun Oct 14, 2018 5:03 am

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Thanks bud, she's fine now. Had a little scare there. She was foaming at the mouth and rolling over aggressively. Little dumbass had me torn up.


Anyway I'll do my best to come in tonight and do some reading.
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Post Post #1905 (isolation #269) » Sun Oct 14, 2018 9:10 pm

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I don't see why we have to end so early. Why is it Toranga over Creature?

Actually I'd like to go back and re-read LTVNGambit and Ezekel on both wilky and Dva. Then those two.

So far:

Saudade - brought the wilky wagon to life
Gamma - conf!towned a player we'd all have been willing to lynch today. It'd be a dumb gambit to do just for a little good will from town. Apprehensive town lean.
Tommy - yeah. Even if you assume Gamma is lying about his role, Tommy's still town here.
Alchemist - had tried to get Dva lynched for a good while.

Sus pool:
Creature and Toranga. Mostly PoE but I think my early reads could've been right. I really really don't wanna do two more weeks of this lol, so I'd like to to figure out which.
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Post Post #1915 (isolation #270) » Wed Oct 17, 2018 9:04 pm

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Gonna have to figure out post-game why I read Gamma as so scummy after the claim. A part of me still thought he'd be here regardless of whether he fakeclaimed or not

Tommy now second conf!town after Saudade. Called it.

Real reading of Creature begins when I wake up. I'm going to consider Alchemist too. I shouldn't have dismissed him
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Post Post #1918 (isolation #271) » Thu Oct 18, 2018 5:08 am

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Again I strongly disagree that the mod's intervention into that argument was a town tell. They were fighting about an ongoing game, I don't think the mod intervened just cuz it was heated. I had some heated, several page, ultimately TvT bullshit insult wars here that led nowhere, and the mod never intervened.

It seems, honestly, a little risky to lynch Alchie today. I'm not a fan of his later play, seems like he's only been hammering wagons, but his earlier play was more townie. I'm not saying it's impossible he's scum, just less likely than Creature. Perfectly possible he's been busy.

Also, it kinda makes sense that Ezekel would flake on the game? He seemed like an irritable guy who didn't know what he was saying half the time, and he had three scum partners just leave and not resurface. On an emotional level I'd understand why you'd just nope out of the game when he seemingly had more posts than both of his active partners. Seems like the kinda dude who'd blame his team, take his toys, then leave.
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Post Post #1921 (isolation #272) » Thu Oct 18, 2018 5:19 pm

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Then why'd they keep yelling at each other about who brought up an ongoing game lmao dummies

Sorry bud, still don't buy it though. I don't think the mod would actively avoid interfering in a fight like that just cuz one of em's scum. Even if they'd like to excuse it as "part of the play", their argument just got personal and petty and had pretty much nothing to do with mafiascum and everything to do their dislike of one another.
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Post Post #1957 (isolation #273) » Sat Oct 20, 2018 11:42 am

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Been busy lately, back now and skimming this dude's ISO:
In post 1814, Creature wrote:Was it unfortunate I replaced into the #1 mislynch?
is this post funny or is it hilarious.


VOTE: Creature
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Post Post #1986 (isolation #274) » Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:16 am

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Not really sure what I'm supposed to be doing rn, game's faded into the ether.

I know this much: not gonna lynch Alchie, he's pretty clearly a scumhunting poster this cycle. He very much had a logic to his push on Dva and then me, even if he read into shit, his follow through tells me he was paranoid town, not scum looking to buss their partner then deflect onto another user. I believe his process in post #1916.

Leaves Tommy, Saudade, and Creature. Tommy is green af, Saudade found us scum and is keeping this cycle alive.

Creature even now is using any vague suspicion of Alchie to direct attention off himself. He even waffles on that, with the "can't find the right way to read him". He has not invested in any lynch. He's tried to pass off jokes about being an easy mislynch.

I read back into the thread, and I now firmly believe that Ezekel started the argument with Tommy because Dva had heat on him early on. Dva slipped into the BG that whole thing and... idk, it makes sense to me that both of those would replace out, just on a gut level.

I need to check to make sure if wilky's absence coincided with Ezekel's departure.

But personally Tommy I think your idea that the mod would intervene on behalf of town only is misguided, and doesn't jive with the function of a mod in mafiascum games. I don't see it as a point for or against Creature/Ezekel. We all push each other's buttons in less than polite ways, those two were airing out personal drama.
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Post Post #1988 (isolation #275) » Mon Oct 22, 2018 6:35 pm

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Bruh c'mon lol.

"7. Please be respectful and kind towards other players. I understand that Mafia can be a heated game sometimes, but there is a line, and if you cross it the game stops being fun. In particular, personal attacks are not allowed."

Let's put this to rest.
@mod:
would you avoid interfering in a case where you felt this rule was being broken if one of the players breaking it were scum?
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Post Post #1993 (isolation #276) » Tue Oct 23, 2018 6:44 am

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I'm convinced.

Tommy if you can give me solid reasons for why Creature's town that don't involve the mod, I'll reconsider. But right now this is your only sticking point and it's kinda silly and assumes you can do the mod's job for them, when she has a bird's eye view of the game that none of us do.
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Post Post #2001 (isolation #277) » Tue Oct 23, 2018 1:35 pm

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Tbh I haven't made good reads this game either, or at least I doubted my good reads out of mattering lol. I gotta learn to stick with my gut more tbh and not make big judgment calls on D1.

Can't remember who mentioned it, day cycles really are too long on mafiascum.
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Post Post #2003 (isolation #278) » Wed Oct 24, 2018 4:42 pm

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Gonna be V/LA for a while, not sure how long. Might not be an issue at all by tomorrow hopefully.
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Post Post #2008 (isolation #279) » Thu Oct 25, 2018 11:13 am

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aight no need for the V/LA. maintenance guys in my building messed something up and i ended up with no electricity.

nothing happened in here anyway lolz.

also i literally read the first two sentences of that Ezekel quote and i know not to read the rest of it. if you wanna explain what's towny about it, i'm all ears, but what i'm reading is just someone being shitty cuz they were accused of being scummy using meta.
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Post Post #2028 (isolation #280) » Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:56 pm

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Good luck? I'm not the swing vote lol, Saudade is. I still think it's creature and if I'm not willing to lynch alchemist I sure as hell won't be lynching Saudade.
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Post Post #2030 (isolation #281) » Thu Oct 25, 2018 11:11 pm

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I don't tho. My PoE is pretty much done. Dude came in, sheepishly bussed his partner and then switched to Toranga. Then he used the fact that his replace-in vote was on wilky.

He's gone off the rails now, dropping the Alchie wagon and going for Saudade.

Like answer me this: if Alchie's early Dva vote is scum bussing, why isn't Creature's replace-in vote (and later attempt to use this one-off vote to distance himself from his swap) not given the same treatment?

I swear to god if you say cuz the mod town spewed Ezekel I will delete my mafiascum account.
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Post Post #2031 (isolation #282) » Thu Oct 25, 2018 11:12 pm

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I will set this account on fire then piss on the ashes
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Post Post #2067 (isolation #283) » Fri Oct 26, 2018 11:19 am

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Party (and vote) like there's no tomorrow !!!
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Post Post #2068 (isolation #284) » Fri Oct 26, 2018 11:30 am

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In post 2057, Alchemist21 wrote:Idk. On one hand Creature’s flailing hard like I expect the last scum would do. OTOH the tone is kinda convincing.

I’ll admit I’ve grown a bit paranoid of Saudade as well but that’s because he’s been telling everyone else to do stuff but I haven’t seen him doing anything himself. Thing is though, Saudade had no need to bus the slot because he was already in a good position and I don’t think people wanted Wilky all that much. If Creature flips I’ll re-examine but I’m not willing to let my paranoia drive me nuts this phase.

@Tommy, when I said I’m not usually the hammer, that’s true for bith alignments. Had I intended to bus I would have made my decision on Wilky sooner, and regardless I probably would have pushed the fact that he was absent to try to save him from the lynch and push elsewhere.
Seriously, you dummies wanna lynch this?


Like Tommy I want you to think about why Creature's no longer pushing Alchie.
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Post Post #2083 (isolation #285) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 8:50 am

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Huh. Let's get this cross vote going then VOTE: Alchemist

I don't think this is a gambit or stunt on your part at all. It makes absolute sense why you'd remove any kind of vagueness from the game. You were gonna be scumread by either Saudade or Tommy regardless, but only one of em was certainly town. This just gives you ammunition to push a PoE on your favorite mislynch.

If I'd been the NK Alchie would've had to deal with both Saudade and Tommy. If Tommy were he'd have had to convince Saudade or myself that either one is scum.

Yeah it's not a stunt lol.
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Post Post #2086 (isolation #286) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 8:59 am

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And yet you did it anyway so
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Post Post #2087 (isolation #287) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 9:01 am

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In post 2084, Alchemist21 wrote:I wouldn’t kill you anymore than I’d kill Saudade. I’d always kill the confTown going into lylo. Always.
Also I mean my dude posts like these are why gambits exist.
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Post Post #2089 (isolation #288) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 9:21 am

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Again, he would've had to convince me and Saudade to turn on one another, or otherwise convince Tommy to push his obvious "I scum read you over Alchemist".

Your best option actually is to keep Tommy alive, Alchie. Either way you live off the WIFOM from the conf!town player being alive and push your other mislynch. It's brilliant tbh and I'm legit just starting to realize how big a newbie I am lol.
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Post Post #2091 (isolation #289) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 9:40 am

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Cuz Saudade and I TRed each other and we both know you didn't have a lotta good will with me.

Eh this isn't going anywhere. The choice is pretty clear to me.
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Post Post #2092 (isolation #290) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 9:44 am

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Actually come to think of it LOL. If I'm scum I would've just buddied Tommy yesterday and lynched you, killed Tommy, then convinced Saudade to lynch Creature.

So yeah tell me more about what "makes sense", scum Alchie. Well played tho tbh
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Post Post #2094 (isolation #291) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 10:03 am

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¿QUE?
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Post Post #2095 (isolation #292) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 10:08 am

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Seriously though, well played. There aren't any times so far I've gotten to the end of a game and come away with any kinda clear sense of having learned something.
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Post Post #2100 (isolation #293) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 9:19 pm

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Aight, I'll check in periodically today but I won't be ON on until tomorrow, it's mah real world b-day yaaay!!
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Post Post #2106 (isolation #294) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:05 pm

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Big ups to Alchie for literally game solving on page fucking nine off one high level read theeeen ignoring it for the rest of the game.
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Post Post #2108 (isolation #295) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:06 pm

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Also thanks ausuka, this was dope and musta been a real hassle
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Post Post #2109 (isolation #296) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:13 pm

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In post 2107, Tommy wrote:Oh Guerilla, what a game! Congratulations, sir! And to wilky too.

Sorry team. Guerilla had me.
Thanks bud, you as well.

I had no idea what I was doing, literally what saved me was 1) being emotional D1, 2) chilling in the BG on every hammer, and 3) the little stunt I pulled with WIFOM from Saudade's NK.
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Post Post #2111 (isolation #297) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:25 pm

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Gracias, real talk all the replacements carried me tbh
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Post Post #2117 (isolation #298) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 1:13 am

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My biggest takeaway is, if you're town, don't defend anyone unless it's an actual lynch decision.

My biggest takeaway for scumplay is have several teammates replace out and boom town has to read like 47 players instead of 11 lmao.
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Post Post #2131 (isolation #299) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 9:57 am

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In post 2125, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2124, Tommy wrote:Lol sorry guys I did my best!
Lolwut
I would have been better serviced lynching you D3 rather than clearing you
don't play the blame game my dude, you deflated Alchie's push with that "why didn't you label it a readlist" thing. that was a blessing to me cuz i could pretty much dismiss the both of you then


Tommy had a tough choice and the NK was entirely designed to make it look like Alchie building townie credit for his eyes only, tough game on both sides.

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