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I have solid evidence to prove that scum lie more often than town on mafiascum.In post 12, Shoshin wrote:What's scummy about lying?-
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A necessary vote.In post 37, Shoshin wrote:Really bad vote, Carmen. Really bad.
Is this what scum-Shoshin looks like?-
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Yeah, I would like to conduct an acid test.In post 40, FLUFFY WHITE SHEEP wrote:
ARE YOU SAYING YOU'RE SUPER TOWNIE?In post 37, Shoshin wrote:Really bad vote, Carmen. Really bad.
Town-Shoshin is famous for her early D1 serious-posting (amidst the carrousel of RVS and fluff posting).
I want to find out if this is REAL this game, or FORCED playstyle: ignoring the tone of player’s posts, deflective defence, scum-entrance strategy to pocket players.-
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Town cleared if she’s scum
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I was hoping for a scum roll with the worst. But got something entirely different...In post 87, Shoshin wrote:Nah, Key's scum.-
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No roleclaiming/quicklynching today please.
I want to enjoy this setup and playerlist to the max.-
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Don’t know, was hoping you would look up her games... or if anyone has played with scum-Shoshin before (?)In post 101, FLUFFY WHITE SHEEP wrote:
HAS SHOSHIN NEVER ROLLED SCUM?In post 98, Keyser Söze wrote:Yup, now would be a good time and place to see if she upholds this serious-posting-even-though-you’re-RVS-posting-‘how-dare-you-vote-me’ persona as both town and SCUM.-
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It’s me fearing you could have a good scum game.In post 107, Shoshin wrote:the worst knows this isn't my scum game because he's seen it before. That's why his vote was terrible and why I'm voting him for the rest of this game unless he really towns it up.
Irrelaphant also knows my town/scum play. He's correctly townreading me, because this is far from my scum game.
key's notion that I'm scum because I'm playing the same way I played as town is... patently absurd? Like, just take a second to think about it - "Shoshin is playing like in her town games, so let me vote her to test if she keeps playing like in her town games." Don't like Key at all this game. But I'll give it time, because I think I misread him last game and can't remember when he looks like as town/scum and he's sort of awkward in general.
What’s wrong with that Shoshin? It’s early D1. There isn’t much to chew on right now. Let me muse.
FTR: I’d prefer for other people to shout ‘this is town Shoshin’ and not you.-
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Good... (this puts to rest my concern that you were fixed in a logical fallacy / committing lazy thinking).In post 120, Shoshin wrote:If the worst had townread me, I wouldn't have thoguht much of him at this point in the game. In retrospect, it's helpful that he voted me. He played it well, regardless of his alignment.-
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Then her crime is far worse...In post 129, Irrelephant11 wrote:THIS IS TOWN SHOSHIN
[getting off my chest]Shoshin wanted to get us out of RVS and talk ‘serious’, but when I/others actually began to raise serious suspicions on her she basically just shot us all down... basically calling my reason to scum read her as idiotic, and that you and the worst ‘should know’ this is town her. How does that open serious dialogue? It just closes doors. She’s off my Xmas card list now unless she delivers a town win here. Or maybe I’m not ready to be called an idiot... just yet...[/getting off my chest]-
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You’re very ‘nice’... possessing a kind aura (very unique to this site ).In post 125, xwing wrote: how so?-
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Quick poll:In post 121, teacher wrote:I am very interested to see how an early wagon peaked so fast though.
LAMIST or GENUINE CONCERN?
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When did FWS do this?In post 175, Carmen wrote:
It's town indicative because town usually look through people's games to try to figure them out more than scum do.In post 170, the worst wrote:Why is this town indicative why does it fit into town!Flufflez' trajectory and mindset?-
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In post 225, teacher wrote:If forced to vote, it would be Keyser, but Id rather not park when I might not be back.Strange... trying to connect me as your partner eh?
Why not vote here? I'm your strongest scum read... I am in no danger of being hammered... don't you want to see me under pressure?
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Hmm... ok... the nature of his/her posting will probably mean only paranoia stops me from fully hardcore t/reading them - but yes, xwing has done nothing outright scummy so far. Their contributions so far are full of innocent/inquisitive meditations and questions.In post 151, Carmen wrote:Xwing is town.
Yeah, can't see scum-motivation in Sheep's early play so far.In post 151, Carmen wrote:Also liking Sheep for town, although he's doing his best to make me want to lynch him.
I can see he keeps biting all the juicy fruit on display, but I think it looks good on him.
Interesting take. Very.In post 166, Shoshin wrote:I'm surprised people are staying away from FWS. I still think he's scum, for three reasons: one, his read on me felt very faked/forced; two,his over-the-top anti-survivalistic approach to the game feels unnatural and makes much more sense from the perspective of scum trying to appear anti-survivalistic rather than town actually being anti-survivalistic; and three, if he were town mislynch bait, I think the scum would have followed me onto him instead of staying away.
You are ☆☆☆/☆☆☆☆☆ town right now. A bit too quiet actually. Wouldn't say you're "devoid of town".In post 180, Irrelephant11 wrote:trying to evaluate if I deserve "devoid of town" at this point
in a game w/o Nauci shouting about how good I am as scum I kinda feel like you should be townreading me here? idk @tw, @keyser, @shoshin am I wrong
Not bad.In post 190, the worst wrote:TOWN
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{Krazy, Carmen} very high sort equity
{Relly, teacher} ~ this has ............... 1.2 scum in it
{Flufflez}
You must seriously stop talking about yourself. Leave that to us x
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Hmmm x 3.In post 202, teacher wrote:I will consider policying FWS if nothing strikes me on the readthrough. Please use regular caps? Pretty please?
Nice ramblings here. [In the back of my head, I concluded: scum-Irrelephant doesn't dive in to save scum-Shoshin's bacon here. His 158 post is very intriguing too, but can't put my finger on why...]In post 220, teacher wrote:Elephant -- I will be paranoid of him ever since he cakewalked our first game on site as scum (cf. 180-Nauci). But this game from him feels different than the one time we played together recently. I found it interesting that immediately after the naked and unannounced L-1, he claimed an inno on Sho (80). The Elephant I know tracks votes better than this. As a result, the catchup VC in 158 felt a bit forced as well. On the other hand, I liked 167's explanation for the take on Carmen, a slot I am being pinged by. Mostly, I want you to talk about 129. I found the reads on Shoshin and Keyser off at the time, but they may be based on Meta I dont know. Please to explain? Pure null.
My early fear was that xwing was adopting a soft/friendly persona (scum-motivated buddying attempt). These feelings have slowly subsided.In post 220, teacher wrote:As for Keyser himself, I echo Xwing's question of what was giving you wolfy vibes about that slot as of 106?
Two good points... perhaps Carmen is too easy (not demonstrating enough town paranoia/hesitation) to hard town read Sheep. The scum read/vote of Irrelephant opens up a second avenue of associations to look at later too.In post 220, teacher wrote:Carmen -- the townread on Sheep from asking for a Wiki, and the scumread on elephant both seem pretty empty. I certainly dont think you can call Elephant's ISO totally devoid of content, and am not sure I buy that Sheep actually wanted to metadive.-
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You blew me away.In post 231, the worst wrote:Keyser.. blow me away?
Page 10 gamesolve:
2 from [Teacher, Carmen, Irrelephant]?-
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Yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes.In post 239, the worst wrote:I hard anti-s/s read this as well, I think it's >rand t/t or s/t with TMI from scum-Irrelephant
Not something I'd wager a game on but a very decent starting read
what does white knighting have to do with this? what do you think made scum Irrelephant feel like this was a good time to swoop in and defend his scum buddy? or are you just being a contrian here? :-
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^In post 244, Keyser Söze wrote:Yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes.
(White-knighting in isolation but supported by my t/read of TW)-
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[FTR for clarity: I haven't played a micro in a while so was ignorant to the fact how quickly a player can reach L-1 (only 5 votes for hammer?). I'm usually more cautious regard putting a player to L-1, especially on the first few pages of D1! My vote was a genuine/serious pressure vote though (neither RVS or a quick lynch attempt) following up to paranoia I had for Shoshin.]-
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^In post 255, Keyser Söze wrote:[FTR for clarity: I haven't played a micro in a while so was ignorant to the fact how quickly a player can reach L-1 (only 5 votes for hammer?). I'm usually more cautious regard putting a player to L-1, especially on the first few pages of D1! My vote was a genuine/serious pressure vote though (neither RVS or a quick lynch attempt) following up to paranoia I had for Shoshin.]
Nauci recommended that I explain all my behaviour that people find scummy - instead of me just saying'it's NAI, both town and scum could put a player to L-1 by accident'.-
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My suspicions surroundingteacherare based on:
- struggling to see teacher's posts coming from town mindset (manufactured posting?)
- I don't believe their posts (tone?)
- something pinging me about their null/nullish reads on Carmen/Irrellephant: is he holding back what he truly thinks of them? Or are the reads fake?
THAT SAID, taking a step back, his tiers of reads aren't actually that bad (except for me as bottom scum).
Is he finding it hard to articulate clearly his suspicions into pronounced/clear thoughts? What I perceive as hedging/suspicious associations could be simply teacher stuggling to sort the playerlist.
OK, writing this post, teacher has gone from a scum read to anull scum read. Well will you look at that!-
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Carmen suspicions:
- bit too easy to t/read FLUFFYWS
- Not quite gauging/seeing their reason to s/read Irrelephant11 (my paranoia on Irrelephant11 actually is only based on Carmen/teacher posts - confirm bias, yes I know. Irrellephant in isolation has just been more quiet/less open than usual).
- Carmen’s ‘bottom half of playerlist are all town’ post smells like possible TMI. I’d preferred to see Carmen explain why player a, b and c are town for reasons x, y and z.
Basically, Carmen is coming to reads I don’t think are natural for a townie. I think those are enough reasons for me to be scared.-
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Ooooooh tasty narrative.In post 290, the worst wrote:
I kinda plucked this for scum indicative. I think he identified her as LHF and tried to chomp down on it--realiasd the mislynch equity was low and UNVOTEDIn post 272, Keyser Söze wrote:Do you believe FLUFFY’s strong reaction to Shoshin’s early “defensiveness” is rational/natural/alignment indicative?
his earlier posting is consistent with heavy pressuring of Shoshin while generally ignoring other slots and the fact heduring a time when the rest of us were flirting between heavily pressuring other slotsUN!!!VOTED!!!!!!
he has more of an active conversing style rather than the MafiaScum.net passive conversing style which is vogue atm making me think he's probably got off-site experience in a community with pretty decent vibes
I think this is an active conversing wolf approach to town!shoshin sod1 more than it's t/t and I think it soft-spews town!Shoshin if Floofz flips red
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You don’t get to say this...In post 327, Shoshin wrote:Even ignoring meta, nobody should scumread me at this point. I'm a very towny townie.
You haven’t opened up your soul like xwing has.
You haven’t bled proactive scum hunter supreme like the worst has.
Talk about why players are scum and not why you are town-
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