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Gonna just go with my gut here and sheep this.In post 19, profii wrote:
VOTE: springtrapIn post 18, Springtrap wrote:Real question though, who voted to make it start on Friday but hasnt showed up yet? Seems counter productive.
If you were actually bothered you’d have just clicked activity overview or checked manually etc
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You monsterIn post 41, Trivium wrote:well good morning everyone VOTE: springtrap It was I who voted for starting thanksgiving and still managed to show up late
@Springtrap: Based on profii's reason for voting you and your response to it, I guessed that you were more likely to be scum than profii was. You could both still be town though.-
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Nah, that didn't factor into it at all.In post 54, Springtrap wrote:I thought you just picked me because I voted you and because of me saying bunnies are better then dogs.-
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What sort of reactionIn post 50, DrDolittle wrote:here's whats up. P and S have a spat and vote each other. E thinks one of P and S is scum, with S more likely, or that both of them are town. Sheeping P is not the reaction that i'd expect in this scenario.
VOTE: egixwouldyou have expected then? If I'm town, I don't know whether I'm voting another townie or not.
PS: I'm not 2.718 darn it!
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This reads a bit like how I felt in my first game (I was scum there). Not gonna move my vote yet though, because Tex is currently at L-3 and this sort of apprehension doesn't necessarily come from scum.In post 77, TexdoesHalo wrote:Bruh, gross? I dunno about you but I'm just here to have some fun and hopefully not die. I'm genuinely new to this site and I'm simply trying to learn how to play this damn game. I have experience with Mafia/Werewolf in real life but I've never played it online before. Imma fucking noob.-
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When are you gonna start, y'know... actually doing stuff?In post 108, Doughboy wrote:Ouch that hurt. At least buy me dinner first.-
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I say wait for him to post more. Then decide.In post 122, BrightEyedFish wrote:This is Tex's complete ISO. I'm having troube deciding if I should give him the noob pass or if I should treat his play like the rest of you.-
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You seem to be assuming that Elbirn and Trivium aren't mafia. Why is that?In post 145, Springtrap wrote:Honestly I think one of the scum here may have been on the wagon, but since half of the playerlist is on it, that's a given. So dividing that further, ceejay, Profii, and Sad Sheep are the 3 I want to look into more.-
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Here, have a seat.In post 147, Sad Sheep wrote:since this was reviewed by only schadd_ , we're in a normal queue game , and I saw another mini normal he hosted - it had a weird setup with bg, fruit vendor, etc
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Is it?In post 150, DrDolittle wrote:setup speculation on page7 is a new one
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"Trivium just isn't as bad as the other 3"In post 179, Springtrap wrote:
Since you wanted my opinion on this, I'll answer it.In post 148, Egix96 wrote:
You seem to be assuming that Elbirn and Trivium aren't mafia. Why is that?In post 145, Springtrap wrote:Honestly I think one of the scum here may have been on the wagon, but since half of the playerlist is on it, that's a given. So dividing that further, ceejay, Profii, and Sad Sheep are the 3 I want to look into more.
Elbirm just seems genuine to me at least. I'll trust him for now. Trivium just isn't as bad as the other 3. I haven't gotten an opinion on him. I don't want to make a push there.
"I haven't gotten an opinion on him"
Well I'm pretty sure that first snippet counts as an opinion, so... which is it?
Yeah, it does seem stupid, but people do it anyway. It's sad... but true.In post 183, Springtrap wrote:Signing up for a game but deciding you don't want to play after a bit seems stupid.Cue heavy metal riff-
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Are you trying to imply that his use of profanity is alignment-indicative? Because if you are, that's reaching IMO.In post 196, Trivium wrote:Weird "damn" and "fucking" irk me as he seems to be responding poorly to pressure
You never know, Tex might be one of those kinds of people who just swears like it's nothing, because that's their personality. In fact I have personal experience of playing with at least one such player: BBmolla.-
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Ych. I do not like the look of this post at all.In post 197, Trivium wrote:This is pretty opportunistic. What are you trying to do, get me to talk more? I'm talking enough. Give a reason to vote me or get off before I scumread you even more.
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I don't know what to think of BEF yet.In post 220, Trivium wrote:Am I wrong about brighteyed? The only analytical post he's made was a suspicion of tex for leaving under pressure, and both of his votes were sheeped, including the relevant one on me.-
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Who's jjh, sorry?In post 224, Sad Sheep wrote:large games can get really frantic, especially with people like varsoon, jingle, jjh-
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So you think I was pretending to misunderstand him in an effort to make him explain himself better? Um, okay.In post 240, DrDolittle wrote:This seems like a disingenuous push on semantics. I'm happy with my vote parked.-
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This progression feels... unnatural. So DDL thought Triv was scum until he read 196? Maybe DDL has TMI regarding Triv's alignment?In post 240, DrDolittle wrote:In post 189, Doughboy wrote:
I have a new read. trivium pings scummy
I also got that sense.
In post 196, Trivium wrote:
Post 78 focuses on not wanting to die rather than saying anything about wanting to find scum. Weird "damn" and "fucking" irk me as he seems to be responding poorly to pressure, something that I find to be one of the best scum tells on this site. Tex then claimed his newness was a reason not to think he was mafia like two posts after someone was talking about how they didn't like the idea of voting springtrap because he seemed new. That rang out as opportunistic as hell, even without the weird diluting post 28. I also don't trust springtrap at all so that seems like an almost solid chainsaw to me. My vote is here unless I find someone else to be even more likely scum.
actually I like this justification fine. the strength of read seems to be well motivated, and logic is thought out rather than, hey here's an easy wagon to push on.-
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Ah I see. At first I thought the 'hm' was a catchup marker (for want of a better term, basically a post someone makes to let people know that they're catching up/to mark their place in the thread) but she never actually made any catchup posts afterwards. Problem is, she apparently has a very time-consuming job so we can't expect her to be online regularly.In post 283, Ruby Red wrote:
just because someone's lurking doesn't mean you ignore their contributions when they actually are hereIn post 280, Egix96 wrote:
HewwoIn post 275, Ruby Red wrote:zzz someone come talk to me
Why do you think Mala is probwolf?
and mala's posts when she does post are really bad
early on they're alright, but these are pretty fucking wolfy, especially in context:
In post 133, Malakitty wrote:HmIn post 156, Malakitty wrote:
Never seen that beforeIn post 150, DrDolittle wrote:setup speculation on page7 is a new one
#156 is very interesting in italics though. It doesn't really add anything, all she's saying there is that she agrees with page-7-setup-spec being a 'new' thing.-
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At first I was like "Huh? Since when have I scumread someone on that basis?"In post 284, Ruby Red wrote:he's also been sitting on the same vote since his first post and doesn't seem to actually have ANY real scumreads, from a look through his ISO
egix can tell you that what i just described is pretty reliably scum indicative
And then I realised who you were talking about
pedit: If we're gonna have a policy lynch at all, I'd much rather it be on Sad Sheep. No offence intended, but I can't stand that slot at all.-
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???In post 292, profii wrote:
you really don't want mala lynchedIn post 291, Egix96 wrote:pedit: If we're gonna have a policy lynch at all, I'd much rather it be on Sad Sheep. No offence intended, but I can't stand that slot at all.
Okay, let's have a look at your reasoning for proposing a PL on Mala:
"she doesn't post much so getting a flip will give us some info"
Well yeah, any lynch gives info in the form of a flip. But as it stands, her ISO would not be much use to us at all whichever way she flipped (no leads if she flips town, no spew if she flips scum).
"makes the average activity of the game increase which is good"
I guess it's good in the sense of allowing more stuff to get done, but otherwise this is pretty vague.
"and given the severe amount of lurking (IRL busy person acknowledged) means there is a chance we get lucky and hit scum"
But is it any more chance compared to a random lynch? Think about that.
I just don't think your reasoning is persuasive enough.
As for why I would PL SS instead, I think that their gimmicky playstyle is too detrimental to town... and also kinda annoying.-
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Call me naive, but I think you're taking that exchange a little too seriously. In my previous game with Ruby, they sarcastically joked that they were a goon at one point (their actual role in that game was Town Cop) so I'd say #333 is NAI.In post 341, profii wrote:In post 333, Ruby Red wrote:alright idk if someone told you about what i said in scumchat or something but you're towning it up a lot more than before
could you take a look at spring's slot and let me know what you think? i think there's decent odd's he's wolf here
This is grossIn post 335, Elbirn wrote:I hope not, I spent a lot of time waxing philosophic to the boy hoping he'd be useful, maybe learn a thing or two
Like oops I posted in the wrong thread gross
As for #335 I think it' just Elbirn going along with the joke.-
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This doesn't seem towny to me...In post 346, BrightEyedFish wrote:
His read list isn't the problem. It maybe that I'm just being defensive and OMGUS because of his attacks on me.In post 345, Elbirn wrote:Like if hes scummy because of his reads list it's going to be because of its content in this game, not because 9 years ago he played scum and replaced in with a readslist. What about his post smells like scum to you?
I looked into his meta and meta research is something I practically never do on day 1 and I saw that similarity. An intro post with a reads list is typically NAI butI'm looking for something to verify my read on him.
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The part that I bolded seems more likely to come from a scum mindset than a town one, at least that's my take on it.In post 352, Doughboy wrote:
Why?In post 350, Egix96 wrote:
This doesn't seem towny to me...In post 346, BrightEyedFish wrote:
His read list isn't the problem. It maybe that I'm just being defensive and OMGUS because of his attacks on me.In post 345, Elbirn wrote:Like if hes scummy because of his reads list it's going to be because of its content in this game, not because 9 years ago he played scum and replaced in with a readslist. What about his post smells like scum to you?
I looked into his meta and meta research is something I practically never do on day 1 and I saw that similarity. An intro post with a reads list is typically NAI butI'm looking for something to verify my read on him.
Maybe I'm grasping but my gut is telling me scum.-
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Ohh I see now.In post 356, Ruby Red wrote:i wasn't joking about talking in scumchat
i was saying that someone, in scumchat, might have told malakittens about what i was saying (in the main thread) and so that could've caused a change in her play
but i don't think that's likely, she's towny
Or maybe it was a scumslip and you're trying to cover it up! Nah, maybe not.-
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I guess we'll just agree to disagree then.In post 359, Doughboy wrote:
That doesn’t really make much sense. Town want to make sure they are right. Looking for something to help confirm that is town all the way. Scum doesn’t need to look for things to prove them right, they know they aren’t and it’s easy to just make up shitIn post 355, Egix96 wrote:The part that I bolded seems more likely to come from a scum mindset than a town one, at least that's my take on it.-
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Aaaaaaahhhhhhhh I'm having trouble deciding whether DDL or Triv is scummier. I need a second opinion!In post 385, Trivium wrote:DrDolittle wrote:gah you think a scum would just blatantly say that, rather than shut their mouth since they have nothing to contribute?
That's not trying to find scum. It's contradictory in a scummy wayDrDolittle wrote:VOTE: trivium
sheeping doughboy is a good bet
In other news, I'm not a fan of how profii changed his story from "Looks like they are trying to start a counter wagon to me" to it being about saving BEF from being lynched. The progression of thought there just doesn't seem right to me.-
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Yeah, that's what I was thinking too...In post 389, Elbirn wrote:
What would be gained from starting a counter wagon to you? I'm really not sure what you're trying to imply, if you're town then there cant really be a nefarious agenda to forming a counter wagon, scum would just let your mislynch happen.In post 386, profii wrote:Dr do little and doughboy come in and shade me then both vote Trivium
Looks like they are trying to start a counter wagon to me-
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So you're saying you think the scum tried to switch to an "easier" mislynch wagon?In post 401, profii wrote:it was never about changing a counter wagon for me......
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"shit guys, people are on BEF, let's try to get them on to profii, nope that's not working, well lets have a go at Trivium then"
I take it you think DDL is scum and Triv is town, but I'd still rather hear the opinion of someone I trust more (e.g. Doughboy, Ruby)-
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I can agree with this for the most part.In post 405, profii wrote:I think BEF is scum
I think Doughboy is liable to tunneling and may be scum or may be just getting swept up in his scum read on me and scum are using that to their advantage.
if BEF flips scum DDL is highly likely to be scum as well - it would not surprise me.
Elbirn is entering the mix in a weird way so I'm watching carefully
I've struck a nerve in there somewhere -there will be scum in that pool for sure-
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Also, from looking at ISOs, Sad Sheep's vote is on LolWagons, not Trivium, and Trivium's vote is on BEF, not LolWagons.
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isn't this a 13er though?In post 535, Trivium wrote:That's a powerful role in a 9 player game, how are we going to confirm this?-
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Who do you think we should lynch then?In post 533, BrightEyedFish wrote:And I don't support a Dough lynch-
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During the Night phase I had another read through the whole thread and made some notes. Problem is they're on my laptop which I don't have access to atm. To summarise:
- LolWagons is 95% likely to be town based on interactions with BEF
- Ceejay also looks good by virtue of being on BEF for a large part of D1
- Elbirn is likely town because of the hammer, I don't think scum!Elb hammers his own buddy unless he's super sure that he can carry
- I think Ruby is town who just happened to be wrong about which PR claim was the better choice to lynch
- Doughby looks susp to me because he had BEF as lock town and tried to dissuade me from scumreading BEF
Apologies for any typos
VOTE: Doughboy-
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Okay seems goodIn post 723, profii wrote:
the only caveat I'd put to that is we were heading towards not lynching at all yesterday and we lynched a goon not a PR, which scum will have been aware of.In post 721, Egix96 wrote:- Elbirn is likely town because of the hammer, I don't think scum!Elb hammers his own buddy unless he's super sure that he can carry
So whilst there are way better people to pressure right now, I'm not writing off Elbirn just yet-
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In 724 it seemed like you were making that assumption.In post 727, profii wrote:where have I said that? Because I am not-
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Hey, if you've won at least one game, you're already better than meIn post 737, profii wrote:But I am a terrible mafia player so don't worry about me
You saying "don't worry about me" does give me bad vibes though, because it gives me the impression that you don't want to be held responsible for your actions.-
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In post 756, profii wrote:600 - from Ruby Red - and the next few posts scream TMI when you read back in context of the flip.
... Yep, looks like we're onto something here.In post 602, Ruby Red wrote:like i'm willing to lynch outside of the claims just to get rid of people we need to get rid of
but imothere's a wolf 100% of the time in that group
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If I'm wrong about you, then I wasn't lying on purpose.In post 774, Doughboy wrote:
Oh yeah. You need to apologize also. This is also a lieIn post 721, Egix96 wrote:tried to dissuade me from scumreading BEF
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Are the posts I quoted there not convincing enough for you?
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Only if they're powerwolfing and they made it their #1 priority to bus the everloving crap out of their Goon in the name of earning mega towncred.In post 849, Doughboy wrote:Let’s say I ignore trivium and profli for a second. I pretend they are town.
Does Elbirn/spring make any sort of sense as scum?-
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Wait, I don't get what this means.In post 852, Elbirn wrote:Oh no the voice in my head is going to start tunneling me and I'm going to have to talk to it
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By the way, here's something I remembered about:
In post 524, Trivium wrote:Uggghhhhhh fine but I want a doughboy vote tomorrow if he keeps this up
VOTE: BEFHis apparent reluctance in voting BEF, followed by him attempting to buddy up to me like that, seems kind of yucky to me.
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"there's a wolf 100% of the time in that group" reads to me like they knew there was a scum between BEF and DDLIn post 874, Doughboy wrote:
no because I don't know what I am looking at. I don't see what you are trying to point out. You think he scum slipped?In post 868, Egix96 wrote:Are the posts I quoted there not convincing enough for you?
And yet they still said "i'm willing to lynch outside of the claims" which is just ??? as LW pointed out.
Basically I do think it was a scumslip, more specifically a TMI slip
But we still need to hear from them I think
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It's called baiting the nightkill. And he did it well.In post 915, Doughboy wrote:Profli with the lies again. Smh. I guess townies lying on this site is a regular occurrence.
VOTE: trivium-
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Sure.
VOTE: Mala
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