Mini Normal 2046: Autumn's Farewell [Endgame]
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Persistent use of "wow" at the start of his posts indicates less awareness of word choice than scum.In post 83, OkaPoka wrote:how has anything rb done led u to the idea he is town-
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Why not Nero?
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You think he's already obv-town?In post 138, Varsoon wrote:Nero obv-towns every game I've been with him or he gets lynched real fast.
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I thought it was very clear who I'm scumreading/voting.In post 150, OkaPoka wrote:and he's being muddy with his reads/votes-
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That wasn't a case, it was a description of what's happening from my perspective.In post 157, OkaPoka wrote:if you want an example, yourcaseon nero is he is bussing DDL, but DDL isn't flipped yet so at best they have equal scum equity and then you are preflipping and then ???-
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This is scum.In post 278, Nero Cain wrote:I think he's a bit null but leaning scum.-
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I'm not.In post 281, mbaki wrote:
I had the same reaction.In post 279, Suka wrote:
This is scum.In post 278, Nero Cain wrote:I think he's a bit null but leaning scum.
I also thought you sounded like a MathBlade alt account.-
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It shouldn't matter when there's obvscum. Vote Nero, please!In post 289, Creature wrote:People need to be more obvtown-
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Your comment had nothing to do with it.In post 312, Kmd4390 wrote:Why did it take my comment about voting you over Nero for you to finally explain your vote?-
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She?In post 317, OkaPoka wrote:Also what gender pronoun do you prefer, Suka?-
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Persuading isn't helpful. Besides the obvious problem of confirmation bias, it gives the scum cover to sheep.
I've made my top suspect clear. If someone needs explanation to see that my perspective comes from town, I'm happy to oblige. But don't expect unsolicited explanations. And regardless, I'll never "justify."-
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You were less town than others.In post 407, Nero Cain wrote:Can you tell me why you were scum reading me pre-114?-
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There's more than enough posts to have ideas about who the scum/town are.In post 430, Vorkuta wrote:Not until I have even the slightest idea of who MIGHT be scum/town.-
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Scum.In post 432, mbaki wrote:Where is a better place to have my vote?
I suggest voting BrightEyedFish.-
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That's untrue. You were the first to ask.In post 438, Kmd4390 wrote:Can you tell me what triggered it if not my comment? You were asked multiple times and never once answered until I asked.
I offered some thoughts on Nero because I realized the need for a less passive approach in this playerlist.-
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There's a difference between requesting "justification" and asking why you voted someone.In post 450, Nero Cain wrote:Aren't you the one that thinks votes should be unjustified?-
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From your perspective, who doesn't have a chance of being scum?In post 458, OkaPoka wrote:I think suka has a chance of being scum-
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These behaviors are more likely to come from scum than town, especially when comparing Bright's play as town/scum. He's quite active & independent thinking as town, none of which seems to be the case here.In post 460, Vorkuta wrote:His ISO only gives me:
Yyota RVS and bit of pressure
sorry afk
sorry what'd I miss
wow guys, hating on me for asking for help
varsoon stop bully
DDL AtE = don't get the scum hread
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No, I didn't know what you were saying. It feels like you're using the word "chance" to hedge. Why are you scumreading me? What have I done that you think more likely to come from scum than town?In post 461, OkaPoka wrote:
you know what i meanIn post 459, Suka wrote:
From your perspective, who doesn't have a chance of being scum?In post 458, OkaPoka wrote:I think suka has a chance of being scum
suka has a *decent/sizable/enough to matter* chance of being scum-
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Where do you see me being "non-transparent" and "too conf-bias-y"? And why are those things scummy?In post 470, OkaPoka wrote:@suka I'm scumreading you because you aren't being transparent and you are too conf-bias-y to the point where I don't think it comes from town.
I wouldn't use that terms to describe my play, nor do I think they're more likely to come from scum (transparency is a playstyle thing and confirmation bias is a minor town tell).-
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I didn't answer your softball questions about whether I'm a newbie... If anything, that's a minor town tell; if I were scum, I could have easily played the newbie card to avoid getting wagon'd.In post 475, OkaPoka wrote:You not answering some of my questions and not providing more justification is non transparency.
I said I'm happy to explain where I'm coming from. That's transparency, not non-transparency. What I'm refusing is "justification" (i.e. "rhetorically proving the validity of what I'm saying for the purpose of making myself seem towny").
I've changed my reads throughout the game in response to new information. That is the opposite of confirmation bias. If anyone is suffering from confirmation bias, it's Nero (and part of the reason I stopped voting him).Your reads and calling of scumteams/pairs that early and then following up on it is too confbiasy to come from town.
Why doesn't "non-transparency playstyle" apply to me? Why do you think I'd be playing differently as town when you've never played with me before?Sure playstyle turns it into a YMMV kinda thing, but I don't think it applies here.-
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That's changing based on current interactions. I'll let you know when I figure it out. Who are yours?In post 483, OkaPoka wrote:Who are your top three scumreads right now?-
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You still think I'm scum despite this conversation?In post 486, OkaPoka wrote:The only person I'm okay with lynching right now with no more information is you.-
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Take a look at the game Oka linked. Or just look at the ISO in this: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=77774In post 510, mbaki wrote:Awaiting meta citation requested above.-
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I already responded to this but since you're relentlessly obtuse I'll try again: My reads on Vorkuta & you changed. So I'm rethinking. I can't tell you top three until I'm done with that.In post 516, OkaPoka wrote:also why cant you give like an in the moment who are my top 3 scumreads.-
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Creature's reasoning on town Leo (51), his paranoia about rb slowly turning into a stronger townread (250, 545), his desire for more townreads (289), and his desire to interact in real time (547, 549), don't ever come from scum Creature. Why do you want to lynch him, Oka? And why don't you want to lynch Bright?-
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Thank you for describing town Creature's playstyle, Oka. He tends to scumhunt from a "POE mindset" that town often have when they're trying to narrow the pool of potential scum by throwing out lots of townreads.
Scum Creature throws out less townreads & feels awkwardly self-conscious about everything. He never fakes a read progression from subtle paranoia to stronger town & never engages real time interactions. Scumreading Creature is absurd. And continuing to push that lynch is anti-town & scummy.-
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All his games. Look at any of them.In post 609, OkaPoka wrote:[citation needed]-
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Please don't lynch Vorkuta.
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Vorkuta's fluid approach towards me doesn't come from newb scum (if you assume I'm town, which I am).
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