Mini Normal 2046: Autumn's Farewell [Endgame]
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why did you swap to ddl then if you have this many doubts ?In post 2348, Varsoon wrote:Sorry for making the game so awful for you
If you were so 'universal' town, why's there a wagon on you in the first place and why do you make me mad uncomfortable?
Anyway
I'm probably right about Creature but I'll take the L and say it's ya'lls fault for not listening to me
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mbaki im still confused what this meansIn post 2345, mbaki wrote:I would point out you are voting against the universal at this point town and the person almost globally read as town, but alas.-
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I have no idea what you mean by this. pls clarify.In post 2368, DrDolittle wrote:
^ hey oka what's your thoughts on this?In post 2366, DrDolittle wrote:I'm also still entertained by varsoon town. He claims no one visits creature, but it could be very well that suka's third target was creature, and thus the claim could be falsified.
In post 2369, DrDolittle wrote:+ it seems high risk low reward to claim a role as silly as universal backup, and it seems consistent with his rationale of play
just one counterexample
varsoon uses his role as an example to why he scumread bef claim
but he clearly sat on me instead of bef for a majority of the day and preferred other lynches to bef and then did a swap around twilight
i dont think he made his mind at that point, its not consistent with play, that explanation was like a post-lemme revise some history explanation-
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can u explain this post then?In post 2180, Varsoon wrote:It's why I scumread the 1-shot Neopolitan claim.
The interactions both the '1-shot' and 'Neopolitan' parts have with Universal Backup are so wonky, I didn't think it'd be a likely role to have.
if its town play how did you scumread him for it-
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you haven't put the effort to case someone properly so nobody is going to understand why you think the way you think and thus nobody is going to care what you sayIn post 2380, Varsoon wrote:Homedog, literally no one gives a shit what I have to say and no one has listened to me all game
So, yeah, if being like "Fuck this" at crunch time isn't a position to have, whatever.
I tried.
Ya'll just didn't ever give a damn about me trying.
now that you do care, what specifically about creature's play do you find scummy?-
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Only if varsoon is voyeur which is not confirmed and the scumread on him is not based on that?
I don't see how this makes him townier. The only townie thing he has done now is making a coherent case against creature. But then again scum can make coherent cases so it's no reason to forgive him for past.-
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??In post 2413, Creature wrote:Meh, I'm feeling like we should ignore the claims. The game was way more interesting without the claims.
is this meme or srs-
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In post 1752, DrDolittle wrote:i still feel uneasy though.
if vork flips town, then tomorrow it feels almost natural to push bef.
but as creature echoed, I can also see them both as town.
this potentially hints at scum pushing narratives around and lining up easy mislynches.In post 1756, DrDolittle wrote:I know! thats why Im feeling so uneasy
that's why Im really hoping vork flips red to calm my qualms
this progression is kinda weird in retrospect with vork at l1 its a bit hmmIn post 1793, DrDolittle wrote:I think I would prefer a BEF lynch today.
1 - I think there's at most one scum in {BEF, Vork} and {BEF, mbaki}. That role flipping red clears our
2 - With conf bias, his wagon hop on me is extremely lazy and antitown ("for the sake of progress")
3 - I agree with what people said. BEF's reads today are extremely weak, and they feel more like continuing to set up mislynches.
4 - Meta-wise, this game reminds me of the last time BEF played scum, rather than BEF played town. His scum play seems more confident, vocally fights with frequent-posters, and then gradually shirks when there's more pressure.
5 - The story that rb-BEF teammates makes sense, although its weaker than rb-vork.
I'm still ok with Vork lynch, but right now, I would prefer a flip here instead. VOTE: bef
example of a weird tone shifts in ddl isosIn post 1964, DrDolittle wrote:
also are you fucking kidding about this? How does pulling off vork not generate flak? Plus we rarely wagon analyze, and vork asso i could be sitting pretty rather than drawing attention to myself as scum.In post 1959, Varsoon wrote:I think scum'd pull off if they knew it'd flip town, if only to avoid catching flak for being on it.
I didn't like their early play and their constant interaction in the thread doesn't feel, to me, like they're trying to figure out the game nearly as much as it's just them setting up whatever lynch works.
there's no reason for scum-me to pull of vork + I was first vote anyways.
Of course, scum could know this and yadda yadda, so that is at most not alignment indicative.-
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In post 2235, Creature wrote:Cool, because my role makes more sense in an nsg setup than yours.
expand on these pleaseIn post 2294, Creature wrote:UNVOTE:
Meh, I'm starting to think Oka is more meant to be a negative utility.-
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but mbaki points out varsoon is town in a niche scenario so i don't get how this makes mbaki town? or varsoon town?In post 2431, Kmd4390 wrote:
Not likely for me. I think I'm between mbaki and drdoolittle today. Leaning drdoolittle now because I'm not sure mbaki points out varsoon is likely town if mbaki is scum.In post 2428, OkaPoka wrote:Is this where you vote varsoon? I think this is where you vote varsoon.-
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usually when someone asks me why i did x
and then they ask me later why i did x
my second explanation will have more than my first, like ill be more verbose about inner thoughts
but if u are being guarded about this its kinda pointless
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as to why i ask questions like that, i use mentality to sort play
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im talking about this postIn post 2455, mbaki wrote:See, why have you been asking questions like that all game? It forces me to talk about it which in turn apparently leads to me ruining the game (-DDL). How does that help you sort my alignment? I've gone over this shit.-
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My case on Varsoon does not come down to he's trying to out the prs so it's scum. There is more stuff in there, I think I was pretty clear when I said he's trying to out the prs as supporting evidence but the main reason is his low activity and bad responses to questions. In fact I think that part of my case is the least important part?
I don't see how mbaki is an ideal scum push today. Perhaps DDL. I guess varsoon, but you then again he's scummy so yeah.
DDL and mbaki 1v1 is not nuanced or solv-y. In fact its the opposite. Maybe it started out ok but they ended up slinging mud at each other. I don't get the genuine impression at all.-
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