Mini Normal 2058 (Endgame)

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:37 am

We're not voting Shoshin D1 lol that's gamethrowing

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:38 am

If Shoshin is town she will force scum to nightkill her before endgame

We never Lynch her D1 ever

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:41 am

Jesus fucking christ vote Shoshin some other day

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:41 am

Creature if you're town just stop

I'll vote Tarkus with you

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:43 am

This is the scummiest wagon build up I have ever seen

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:46 am

She called 8 people locktown or town for today

That's 5 leftovers with stronger feels on 3

That's perfectly reasonable

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:47 am

In post 1097, Creature wrote:
In post 1008, RadiantCowbells wrote:My ability to aid town wincon from a position of being heavily scumread is negligible.
Well, that explains your shitty scumread on me.

My scumread was perfectly valid given your awful opener.

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:49 am

In post 1101, Creature wrote:
In post 1014, RadiantCowbells wrote:Town creature doesn't appeal to me to townread him
I don't think I did. I just pretended to be scum near you.

Ok so why would you do that?

You're essentially claiming you played your scumgame then you wolfread me fo falling you scum for it, no?

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:54 am

CoA is busy IRL and I agree with most of her reads.

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:55 am

In post 1113, Creature wrote:
In post 1072, RadiantCowbells wrote:If Shoshin is town she will force scum to nightkill her before endgame

We never Lynch her D1 ever
Wanna go Tarkus then?

Tarkus is my second strongest scumread over DDL right now.

I am mostly down for it unless Shoshin or CoA object.

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:57 am

In post 1121, Creature wrote:I'm gonna say this is terribad, agenda-driven and hopefully RC is right about Shoshin being fearkilled pretty early here if she's town.

This is a bad opinion

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 11:00 am

In post 1128, Creature wrote:
In post 1103, RadiantCowbells wrote:Ok so why would you do that?
I needed something entertaining and making fun of scumreaders is great.

What if I didn't bother to read and reevaluate and just lynched you for it and then I got lynched myself and we went down to 9p

How funny would that have been?

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 11:08 am

I legit thought there was high odds roomy replaced out because pissed that he was being voted by a buddy ftr

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 11:12 am

Shoshin giving me better village feels
Creature probably town

Whose left.lol

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 11:12 am

Morality DDL Vedith Tarkus

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 11:14 am

I actually think Vedith is a strong pick for scum right now

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 11:14 am

Not literally never scum afaik but highly likely village

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 12:05 pm

Vedith I think is scum

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 12:06 pm

Gotta hit scum today so that people respect my reads enough not to lynch my townreads unfortunately.

I'm going to be very careful about where my votesgoes.

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 12:12 pm

Thinking more and more that morality is woofing.

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 12:13 pm

Purely associatively at this point.

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 12:15 pm

particularly because i think that shoshin is town

like if i put myself into this game it's exactly what i'd do from his point of view

if he lynches shoshin, nightkills me, CoA is uninvested and can no longer push a lynch on him. the game is over. it's an amazingly high value mislynch to obtain that will probably become an asston harder later.
I even think that there's very very high odds that DrDoLittle is a buddy and that scum are willing to literally all group up and clusterfuck Shoshin to bring her down.

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 12:18 pm

I'm the nightkill, he knows he can't win in a 1v1 on me and pushing on me creates 1v1s so why take that angle of approach. makes more sense to call me town. not a long commitment.

shoshin is the single best person to lynch today from scum!Morality's point of view.

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 12:19 pm

Same reason that he's trying to discredit and rip apart my townblock, he needs more mislynches. And the IC is a weak player who is just going to eat it up hook line and sinker because they don't realize that trying to seem towny != town.

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 12:20 pm

As it happens right now I think Tarkus is the weakest lynch contender in the scumpool.

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:01 pm

I think we lunch neither.

I think that Shoshin is almost always town.

I think that ignoring a mutual townread of myself and CoA is arrogant and stupid.

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:03 pm

CoA is the best town player on this site. She hard townreads Shoshin.
I am somewhere up there and agree

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:05 pm

FL if you push Shoshin I will kill you.

You can postpone the question and vote Vedith/DDL with us

Or you can not do so and perish.

If you're town Shoshin is still not scum

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:09 pm

Do u realize that CoA had an 80% town winrate last year

One incorrect vig shot in site history

Going against her when she's town is literally gamethrowing and you shouldnt do it

There is literally 1 person on this site I confidently put above myself and that's her

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:10 pm

Morality if you want to do this you will die.

This is the last warning that you get.

We can go lynch scum that is not you or we can lynch you

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:10 pm

I'm actually near 100% certain morality is wolf now

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:11 pm

KK

VOTE: morality

Let's do this today
Case to follow either tonight or tomorrow morning

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:12 pm

In post 1244, Morality wrote:
In post 1240, RadiantCowbells wrote:Do u realize that CoA had an 80% town winrate last year

One incorrect vig shot in site history

Going against her when she's town is literally gamethrowing and you shouldnt do it

There is literally 1 person on this site I confidently put above myself and that's her

I skew player’s like that’s reads all the time.

She hard tunneled me when I was town. And I didn’t exactly lose many games myself last year.

Funny that I'm not talking about her read on you

I'm talking about her read on Shoshin

Someone who in the interest of game sanctity I have tried to ignore but I have a near 100% reason to townread

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:13 pm

Let's go boyo strut your stuff

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:15 pm

You think that you're invincible because you don't understand me.

FA thinks she's invincible too. LLD thinks she's invincible. Always die to town me.

I don't have the same confidence reading you and I've had you a few times when you were town, but you've never played versus the me that you're playing against now.

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:16 pm

In post 1250, YellowSnow wrote:Ok, this exchange changed my mind.

VOTE: Morality

In post 1249, Morality wrote:
In post 1247, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 1244, Morality wrote:
In post 1240, RadiantCowbells wrote:Do u realize that CoA had an 80% town winrate last year

One incorrect vig shot in site history

Going against her when she's town is literally gamethrowing and you shouldnt do it

There is literally 1 person on this site I confidently put above myself and that's her

I skew player’s like that’s reads all the time.

She hard tunneled me when I was town. And I didn’t exactly lose many games myself last year.
Funny that I'm not talking about her read on you

I'm talking about her read on Shoshin

Someone who in the interest of game sanctity I have tried to ignore but I have a near 100% reason to townread
Nice misrep. Why would I Sheep someone’s read on someone who can’t read me?

Give me reasons why they can’t be scum doing stuff like that, not gut reads.

TownRC would have pushed me A LONG time ago.

No I wouldn't and I have already explained why

Shoshin and CoA can deal with you without me

If you're going to try to Lynch the other townie who can kill you then yes I do need to Lynch you today.

Thanks for making my town case on myself for me

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:18 pm

Someone is going to be town

And believe what FL is saying regarding I shouldnt be putting faith in others and should want to do everything myself

They should read xyzzy's game. Same two townie. Same faith in their reads and the townblock that formed.

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:23 pm

Not a policy lynch

You're pushing on every single person except the ones who are scum

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:24 pm

But sure go ahead and be a super shitty person and use my frustration with shitty and unfair situations against me. It helps me with my motivation. I can't wait to get home at this point.

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:25 pm

Wow Shoshin is town now crazy

Almost like you realize it's an awful idea to be on the scum list of both of us and since you know you're not fooling me you want to try to fool her instead.

Or maybe it's exactly like that.

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:26 pm

In post 1263, Morality wrote:
In post 1260, RadiantCowbells wrote:Not a policy lynch

You're pushing on every single person except the ones who are scum

This is a blatant lie.

I’ve pushed ONE person this game basically. And I literally stated it was a reaction test during my vote.

You pushed myself, Shoshin, called YellowSnow and boats n hoes scum, none or whom are wolf.

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:27 pm

In post 1266, Morality wrote:
In post 1262, RadiantCowbells wrote:But sure go ahead and be a super shitty person and use my frustration with shitty and unfair situations against me. It helps me with my motivation. I can't wait to get home at this point.
There is zero possible way you scum read me in this game. And I’m not talking about other people scum reading me, that’s fine. i’m Talking about you.

Flavor leaf then: omg RC always scumreads me.

Flavor leaf now: RC would never scumread me

Read all our games he always goes off on me saying I can't read him and that bullshit. How does town him now randomly come to the conclusion that I should be correctly townreading him?

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:28 pm

On the other hand

If scum!FL feels that I'll scumread him no matter what

There's no purpose fooling me, is there? So he's better off just making a play that doesn't depend on me townreading him, which here is trying to mislynch xh me. Notice that he's STILL trying to Lynch in the 3 best townies in the game.

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:29 pm

In post 1270, Morality wrote:
In post 1269, Shoshin wrote:RC is townier than everyone else in this game except Aura.
By RC’s own words, that’s how you can describe ScumRC as well.

Also FL in our last game where I was actually scum was ridiculously anti this mentality and as a respectable scum player you can understand why. Do you really think that someone who thinks they're great as scum uses this kind of thing as town?

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:30 pm

In post 1274, Morality wrote:
In post 1268, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 1266, Morality wrote:
In post 1262, RadiantCowbells wrote:But sure go ahead and be a super shitty person and use my frustration with shitty and unfair situations against me. It helps me with my motivation. I can't wait to get home at this point.
There is zero possible way you scum read me in this game. And I’m not talking about other people scum reading me, that’s fine. i’m Talking about you.
Flavor leaf then: omg RC always scumreads me.

Flavor leaf now: RC would never scumread me

Read all our games he always goes off on me saying I can't read him and that bullshit. How does town him now randomly come to the conclusion that I should be correctly townreading him?
This is a misrep. I felt we got past this, and you should know by now.

He tells you guys to go read our games, except the thing about this is I’m always town in those situations.

You're always town in those situations

You're approaching THIS situation radically differently

So
.
.
.
You're not town in this game gg glhf

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:32 pm

In post 1276, Morality wrote:
In post 1272, Shoshin wrote:That's not what RC said.
He said that when you can’t lynch him, he’s scum. That’s essentially the same thing. I shouldn’t have said his own words, I agree. Don’t be anal about that, that’s just annoying.

Actually it's not at all the same thing.

I explicitly do not think that being townread is a goal of playing scum

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:33 pm

All of the truly difficult scum games I've played I've played by getting fucktons of dirt on myself and winning anyway. Think civilization mafia think the prince Lyon game think princess bride on MU. People like LLD and FA have being townread as their goal and they never attain the success that I do because I understand that reads on you don't matter if you're doing your job

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:34 pm

Shoshin he's scum and this 1v1 is required to bring him down.

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:36 pm

In post 1285, Shoshin wrote:Nah, no need for a 1v1. Better to spend your time talking with me about more interesting things. Like Yellow.

Still think that he's town. Still not letting Morality live while they're fighting the townblock.

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:37 pm

It's done Morality is the lunch today or I am with the promise of him dying tomorrow

Just help me kill him, please.

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:38 pm

Go on boon do your thing

You think you're as good at scum as I am? Prove it, show me what you can do in the big leagues. I'm waiting.

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:39 pm

It's really easy to pubstomp on this site

Show me what you can do with real opposition

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:41 pm

In post 1296, Morality wrote:
In post 1290, RadiantCowbells wrote:Go on boon do your thing

You think you're as good at scum as I am? Prove it, show me what you can do in the big leagues. I'm waiting.
What do you mean? I’ve had just as impressive, if not more impressive, scum victories than you.

Okay sure. Let's go. Show me what you can do.

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:43 pm

In post 1298, Morality wrote:
In post 1295, Shoshin wrote:RC, please don't encourage him to clutter this game with a bunch of crap.
RC is scum. He wants me to clutter this game because he thinks he can make it come off as TvT.

I have never once in my long illustrious history of playing mafia gone for a 1v1 with someone like Morality with the intent of it seeming TvT. This is Boon trying to say something that seems towny

Does anyone else feel like I am holding a single punch against Boonskiies to not actually kill him?

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:44 pm

In post 1301, Morality wrote:
In post 1299, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 1296, Morality wrote:
In post 1290, RadiantCowbells wrote:Go on boon do your thing

You think you're as good at scum as I am? Prove it, show me what you can do in the big leagues. I'm waiting.
What do you mean? I’ve had just as impressive, if not more impressive, scum victories than you.
Okay sure. Let's go. Show me what you can do.
We gotta join another game together then because I’m town.

Plus, I’ve played scum against you before. I’ve won every time.

Bullshit

Me is not me. My town game is in top form right now
Let's go no more of this crap this is weak and you know it
I expect better from yoi

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:46 pm

Make me feel alive. Don't be a weakling like LLD was. Give me something worth fighting for, make my existence mean something!

Why would that seem townie? If anything that seems scummy. I’m not worried about coming across as townie. I’m pushing you because you’re scum.
POST A REPLY

Because you're subtly introducing to your audience the idea that we are in fact SvS. I've done it before I know it all. Next.

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:48 pm

In post 1305, Morality wrote:
In post 1303, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 1301, Morality wrote:
In post 1299, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 1296, Morality wrote:
In post 1290, RadiantCowbells wrote:Go on boon do your thing

You think you're as good at scum as I am? Prove it, show me what you can do in the big leagues. I'm waiting.
What do you mean? I’ve had just as impressive, if not more impressive, scum victories than you.
Okay sure. Let's go. Show me what you can do.
We gotta join another game together then because I’m town.

Plus, I’ve played scum against you before. I’ve won every time.
Bullshit

Me is not me. My town game is in top form right now
Let's go no more of this crap this is weak and you know it
I expect better from yoi
Then act like your town game is in top form and actually do work. I think your game has been extremely lazy this game, and I don’t think it comes from you as town. It feels like your coasting and making the occasional push to give that old RC feel.

Oof well

Here you go. Here's your old RC feel. Better?
I don't have a standard for comparison but I'm not impressed rn

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:49 pm

In post 1309, Vorkuta wrote:
In post 1292, Shoshin wrote:Why is this TvT?
Well the fury with which they are raging implies that this isn't scum theater.
I like Morality, and I feel bad for trying to policy RC...

Aaaaand.... that's all I got

In any case I don't think we'll hit a majority on either player, so can we stop for now?
Can we save the best for last?

I mean RC has already given us his "townblock that is not wrong"- let's see him 180 out of that in the future if/when proven wrong.
There's a similar case for morality as well

Just vote me and stop wasting my time if that's what you gotta do.

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:50 pm

If you truly in your heart of hearts think that FL is townier than me, vote me. Just don't be a useless fuck who tries to Lynch elsewhere when I'm trying to hand you the game

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:51 pm

In post 1312, Morality wrote:
In post 1307, Shoshin wrote:RC's laziness is a town tell in this game.
HARDCORE disagree. TownRC is a try hard af.

Does he make you pay rent in that pocket?

Huh

It's almost like this play is identical to the last game where I had both Shoshin and NSG to back me up where my main focus was establishing a townblock and slow pushing as opposed to trying to dearhtunnel scum on D1. But don't worry boony tunes you are worth my effort

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:53 pm

In post 1316, Vorkuta wrote:But I don't genuinely think neither of you are scum...

I'd like to think that this will resolve itself in the future.

KK don't use this against me in any future games or I'll hate you

But let me tell you something spicy

Your reads on either of us mean jack shit. You wouldn't catch either of us as scum. Trust that this 1v1 is happening for a reason, Lynch whoever you think is wolfier, Lynch the other if the first flips town, and if we're both town yell at us in post game

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:54 pm

In post 1319, Vorkuta wrote:I also respond pretty badly to open provocation and ultimatums like that.
Look- I don't think either of you is getting a majority today. Do you absolutely NEED to have this contest RIGHT THIS MOMENT?

We didn't

I tried to postpone this and Lynch the easier scum flips

Morality instead chose to go after people I refuse to lose

So I have to kill him D1 instead of relying on Shoshin/CoA to do my job for me

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:55 pm

In post 1321, Morality wrote:
In post 1318, Shoshin wrote:No, Vorkuta. These players pride themselves on faking this sorto fury/rage as scum. We are lynching Morality today because he's scum. We're also lynching Morality because RC's town and Morality's presence in the game is keeping RC from playing up to his peak level.
It’s funny you think I’m actually getting lynched today.

Even RC knows that’s not likely to happen.

I am 100% sure that neither of us survive the first two days unless I successfully Lynch you D1 and get protected.

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:56 pm

In post 1325, Morality wrote:
In post 1322, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 1319, Vorkuta wrote:I also respond pretty badly to open provocation and ultimatums like that.
Look- I don't think either of you is getting a majority today. Do you absolutely NEED to have this contest RIGHT THIS MOMENT?
We didn't

I tried to postpone this and Lynch the easier scum flips

Morality instead chose to go after people I refuse to lose

So I have to kill him D1 instead of relying on Shoshin/CoA to do my job for me

I do this with you essentially every game.

And I always react the same way? Huh.

So... Why are you scumreading me again?

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:58 pm

Ding ding ding

Except in this case the situation is different. I extended you an olive branch that we could work together and kill scum. You knew you wouldn't make it to endgame by getting on scum flips proffered by my hand so you instead chose to kill the strongest townies and fool the idiots. That's not happening.

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:58 pm

In post 1330, Morality wrote:
In post 1327, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 1325, Morality wrote:
In post 1322, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 1319, Vorkuta wrote:I also respond pretty badly to open provocation and ultimatums like that.
Look- I don't think either of you is getting a majority today. Do you absolutely NEED to have this contest RIGHT THIS MOMENT?
We didn't

I tried to postpone this and Lynch the easier scum flips

Morality instead chose to go after people I refuse to lose

So I have to kill him D1 instead of relying on Shoshin/CoA to do my job for me

I do this with you essentially every game.
And I always react the same way? Huh.

So... Why are you scumreading me again?

Honestly, I’m not even sure at this point. I’m trying to figure out the scum in you and Shoshin. One of y’all are scum in each other’s pocket.

Come on this is weak

You can.100% do better than this

Stop being a weak little bitch and give me something

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:59 pm

Yes I am trying to piss you off. Get mad.

I want more from you. I disbelieve this is the best you can do. Show me it.

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 2:01 pm

Tragically I'm not mislynching any townies though, am I?

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 2:02 pm

In post 896, Not Known 15 wrote:
Vote Count 1.5YellowSnow(1)Vorkuta;

RCEnigma(2)
Aurathebirb
;DrDolittle

Creature(4)Boats n Hoes;CultOfAthena;RCEnigma;RadiantCowbells;

Shoshin(0)

CultOfAthena(0)

RadiantCowbells(0)

Aurathebirb
(0)

Morality
u r a person 2
(0)

Vorkuta(0)

Boats n Hoes(1)Vedith;

Vedith
Sniperlyfe77
(0)

DrDolittle
roomy
(1)Shoshin;

Tarkus(0)

No Lynch(0)

Not Voting(4)Creature;Morality;Tarkus;YellowSnow;

With 13 alive it is 7 to lynch.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2019-02-27 10:35:00) or when a lynch has been achieved.

In post 1214, Not Known 15 wrote:
Vote Count 1.6YellowSnow(1)Vorkuta;

RCEnigma(1)
Aurathebirb
;

Creature(3)CultOfAthena;RCEnigma;RadiantCowbells;

Shoshin(3)Morality;DrDolittle;YellowSnow;

CultOfAthena(0)

RadiantCowbells(0)

Aurathebirb
(0)

Morality
u r a person 2
(0)

Vorkuta(0)

Boats n Hoes(1)Vedith;

Vedith
Sniperlyfe77
(0)

DrDolittle
roomy
(1)Shoshin;

Tarkus(2)Boats n Hoes;Creature;

No Lynch(0)

Not Voting(1)Tarkus;

With 13 alive it is 7 to lynch.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2019-02-27 10:35:00) or when a lynch has been achieved.

Funny how Shoshin wasn't a thing until Creature stopped being a thing huh? Talk about talking in scumchat and organizing pushes to prevent scum going down.

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 2:03 pm

In post 1338, Morality wrote:I’m just trying to get invested in the game, and I know you’re good at interacting with me.

Plus, it’s kind of fun poking at you.

And I am so freaking astonished that you can possibly see Shoshin as town here that it makes me think you know she is town because you’re scum.

In post 1339, Morality wrote:
In post 1337, RadiantCowbells wrote:Tragically I'm not mislynching any townies though, am I?
You’re right. You’re not.

If you were to lynch me, you would be mislynching one, but you aren’t lynching me, so :shrug:

Lololololololol

You can claim whatever you want.

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 2:04 pm

In post 1342, Vorkuta wrote:I get that. However this game DOES have PR's right? One of you could be cleared or killed (as you both claim) in the next few days.

Morality will not let me lynch his scum buddies without killing him first. I tried.

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 2:05 pm

Besides I want some fun. I thought morality was better scum than this.

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 2:07 pm

In post 1346, Vorkuta wrote:Goddamit let me hit the submit button without 50 more new messages.

How does scum!morality prevent an investigative confirmed scum!*insert morality teammate* lynch here?????

He kills the townies strong enough to convince people that scum are who they are in the day game then the cops and such target their shitty pet scumreads instead of the people who are obviously scum.

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 2:09 pm

Or when all the good players are dead scum shoot the outed investigatives and then ppl like Aura who townread morality refuse to lynch him because their feelz > the fact that everyone who is good at town scumreads him

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 2:11 pm

In post 1349, Morality wrote:
In post 1345, Shoshin wrote:What're your reads, Vorkuta?
Can you do something actually productive and give your own insights that aren’t just basic “oh, this guy protected this guy, they’re scum.”

And @RC - you’re right. Scum me IS better than this.

I've never read any of your scum games and been impressed.

I remain unimpressed by this one.

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 2:12 pm

In post 1350, Morality wrote:
In post 1348, RadiantCowbells wrote:Or when all the good players are dead scum shoot the outed investigatives and then ppl like Aura who townread morality refuse to lynch him because their feelz > the fact that everyone who is good at town scumreads him
Being “good at town” doesn’t mean they can’t roll scum.

Never said that they did

But questioning my NSG read makes you beyond fucking stupid and Shoshin has done enough

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 2:13 pm

In post 1352, Morality wrote:And I have a history of being scum tunneled by “good town” when I’m town.

But I'm scum. So I am not good town. I'm not anything.

Just scum.

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 2:13 pm

Commit to your scumread on me trust me it's the right move.

I don't want you to back off and get lynched easily I want to earn this

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 2:16 pm

In post 1359, Morality wrote:
In post 1357, RadiantCowbells wrote:Commit to your scumread on me trust me it's the right move.

I don't want you to back off and get lynched easily I want to earn this
You’re just hiding behind the push on me. I’m looking elsewhere because I know there’s more than one scum, and I’m not delusional enough to think I can’t be wrong.

Bullshit trying to deflect and mislynch a weak townie is the cowards way out FL.

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 2:16 pm

Are you really as good as me?

Because if you are then make the play

Earn my respect.

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 2:17 pm

And btw you won't win mislynching some arbitrary townie you'll just die tomorrow so show me what you can do.

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 2:18 pm

I'll pause.

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 2:20 pm

Yet you're not and regardless of whether you think that you can win a 1v1 against me I'm disappointed that you're not trying.

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 2:27 pm

I feel so aliveee.

This is why I play mafia tbh

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 3:48 pm

In post 1380, Vorkuta wrote:That's like the most guided/leading question imaginable, and it's also unrelated to my point.

"No I am convinced 1000$% that morality is good and honest this game"/s

My message is not that one or the other is good/pure, while the other is complete scum.
It's that they should both tone it down and see what happens in the next few days.

I disagree that I should be not murdering Morality.

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:23 pm

I townread Vorkuta btw

I think that it's easy to townread Morality off of tone even though he's objectively not towny

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:43 pm

In post 1388, Morality wrote:Imma go on a hardcore aggressive spree here and we get 30+ pages of content.

I'm waiting.

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:47 pm

Stop trying to control the lynch and I won't lynch you today.

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:47 pm

VOTE: Vedith

sayonara, spidey.

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:50 pm

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:52 pm

There is at least one universe where yellowsnow is scum ftr

I want to have Shoshin replace him as my other towngirl

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:56 pm

You understand that Morality's effort to leave a track record is more scum indicative than not, right? As scum I make an effort to leave a paper trail.

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:56 pm

Like you're literally town reading the things he does to make himself townier as scum.

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:58 pm

In post 1403, Vorkuta wrote:I don't like/don't agree with the dichotomy (one or the other) and absolutes (if you're town, you MUST vote...) that I'm being presented with, and I'm trying to circumvent that.

The truth is that you're not a strong enough player to catch either of us as scum as said before and at some point you have to put faith in the fact that you aren't the best player in the game.

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:59 pm

Like voting me is a non-terrible idea and because Morality is claiming mental health conflict that is keeping him from fully investing in this game I'm going to leave him for tomorrow.

But if you took my town flip and didn't immediately murder Morality after that makes you a bad player.

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:59 pm

To try to flesh that out: being wrong on which of us is scum is a lot less of a mistake than thinking that I'm scum and thinking that Morality is still town after I flip town.

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 5:01 pm

That's a really terrible way to differentiate the tiers. Quality of a player isn't in the evidence they give. I could make a convincing case on literally everyone in this game. I could include mountains of detail.
But 9/12 of the remaining players would still be town and I wouldn't be a better player for being able to produce those cases.

Quality of a townie is in the quality of their reads, their ability to towntell, and their ability to project those reads.

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 5:03 pm

I could produce cases on people: I just feel it is a worse way to succeed at the three skills that I have listed than to do what I am doing.

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 5:04 pm

I think if I go for a case based approach to lynching Morality Morality will do something like what I am doing, I will get lynched, then Morality will argue against my cases and convince y'all that he's town tomorrow.
That is the worst of all worlds. That cannot be allowed to happen. My #1 goal here isn't lynching Morality today it is ensuring that

all roads lead to lynching morality

and giving reasons that can be argued against is antithetical to that.

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 5:07 pm

In post 1414, Morality wrote:
In post 1401, RadiantCowbells wrote:You understand that Morality's effort to leave a track record is more scum indicative than not, right? As scum I make an effort to leave a paper trail.
This is actually not true. I’ve never left a game as scum before without it being a force replace.

You're responding to a point that I didn't make: I am saying that your effort to show your thought processes in thread is more scum than town-indicative.

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 5:09 pm

Morality I've agreed to not lynch you today. I'm just deciding who I am actually going to lynch. Relax.

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 5:16 pm

Voting with someone because you like their playstyle is a worse strategy than voting with someone because you think that they're town.

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 5:16 pm

Vorkuta I just want you to agree that if/when I flip town you vote Morality and never unvote no matter what happens. All I'm asking for.

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 5:17 pm

idc how you read me. idc how you read him. idc how you generate reads in general. That's all I want a yes to and then I'll leave you alone.

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 5:33 pm

In post 1425, Vorkuta wrote:-Do I get several days as a buffer for an investigative/kill/exmachina?
-Are you SURE that your ego-battle with him is not interfering with your "town" win-condition?
-Do you think RNG gave HIM of all people in this game the scum role?
-What if Morality makes exactly the same request of me? Hell what if everyone here points fingers and picks fights with people which results in 50 such pairings/ultimatums?

1) no.
2) yes.
3) he's no more or less likely to be scum than anyone else and based on the sheer amount of towny slots
4) not everyone in the game has high enough read consistency to ask for this. if he makes the exact same request of you then you should grant it.

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 5:36 pm

Shoshin I think we should respect a legitimate claim of needing a day off for mental health reasons. I don't want to be the reason that he has to play through whatever problems he's having.

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 5:37 pm

I'm going to meta all the slots that I think are in scumpool and find at least one scum to lynch for today. After lynching scum it'll prolly be easier to convince everyone to murderfuck Morality.

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 5:41 pm

In post 1430, Aurathebirb wrote:Stuff like this makes Morality seem like he's not trying to appear town and is in fact genuinely town.

he makes these posts as scum too.

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 5:42 pm

Pls don't take 1435 as a slip that he's town. It's how I phrase things.

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 5:44 pm

In post 1437, Vorkuta wrote:@RC
Tell you what after your "green" flip- I will absolutely and unquestioningly hammer him if the time comes.
But the wagon has to come from the other players.

@Shoshin
-In the future, it'll be more difficult for him to stay consistent with his paper trail (unless he has a plan for D5 already)
-I've been in games with 2 town reaction test players (from what I explicitly remember) who've done exactly the same thing and I've mislynched one of them.

I've just stated that I don't like reaction-testy playstyles as they can retroactively shield themselves from all criticism
>Votes *random person here*
>Town outrage and uproar
>"Reaction test, just chill out"
Plus it provokes rage/hostility.

Here's the issue- If other players were online & Morality was more engaged, they'd be convincing me of exactly the same shit about RC.
They'd find something/somewhere, something tonal, something playstyle oriented, something meta, whathaveyou.
You have an agenda. You think it's to your wincondition. You're pushing it. I understand and respect it, but I don't know if I want to be corralled into it as well.

You can't just stay out of it when it's to your wincondition to find scum.

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 5:46 pm

Like I understand the way that you feel

But the nature of the game is sometimes you get sucked into fights between players like me and Morality who you would never scumread as scum and you can't just close your eyes and pretend its not happening.

On some level, you do understand that Morality is not a player that you would correctly scumread, right?

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 5:47 pm

DDL/Vedith/Tarkus is my shortlist.

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 5:48 pm

RC
CoA
Shoshin
Vorkuta
Aurathebirb
Boats n hoes

hardtown

Rcenigma
Creature

strong town

Yellowsnow

lean town

Veidth
DDL
Tarkus
Morality

scumpool

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 5:49 pm

Most of my reads in my top 8 are distinctions without a difference, by the way.

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 6:04 pm

For the record, Aurathebirb.
The 'reasons arent good enough to lynch Creature' thing that you townread I think is incredibly scummy.
Creature himself has even acknowledged that his opener was scummy as fuck. I don't think that's a legitimate read. I think that's scum who thinks they can look good by defending Town!Creature because they already know they're gonna prove themselves town and there's no point going after them. I'm saying that that read is a TMI read, in other words.

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 6:05 pm

In post 1450, Vorkuta wrote:-I don't think we find scum on D1. Simple as that. We lynch the least common denominator, or the most anti-town player and see what the night PR's do/give us.
This isn't an open setup with X VT's and Y Goons with no powers, so let's see what happens. They've won games for me in the past, and if it ain't broken...

Do you realize that I hit scum >50% of my town games D1 and my reads have been progressively getting better and better over the last year?

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 6:05 pm

Like- we're planning to hit scum D1. Don't sell what we're capable of as a town short. If you think that we can hit scum D1 we can hit scum D1. If we're not trying to hit scum D1, what exactly are we trying to do?

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 6:11 pm

VOTE: DrDolittle

I think this is my most confident wolfread that isn't Morality.

If you're town RC.

D1 we're trying to establish precedents/relationships, see the interaction between players, hear out some meta arguments, and get the lynch that provides the most information. Like there's a really strong Shoshin/RC bond, and there's a real nice Morality/Vedith bond as well this game. Creature is in Team Morality, Boats is closer to team RC, and so on. Factionalism.

Or we could just, like, murder scum. Do you really think if I was scum I wouldn't be manipulating the way that the factions developed such that your analysis of it would lead you further away from winning the game?

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 6:12 pm

That's technically untrue Shoshin, we create information by lynching people who flip scum. That information is that the person we lynched was scum.

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 6:13 pm

In post 1460, Shoshin wrote:That factionalist approach is so manipulable by scum, Vorkuta. Like, oof. You're the kind of townie I dream of playing against as scum.

You're the kind of townie I dream of playing with as town. <3

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 6:18 pm

In post 1463, Shoshin wrote:
In post 1462, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 1460, Shoshin wrote:That factionalist approach is so manipulable by scum, Vorkuta. Like, oof. You're the kind of townie I dream of playing against as scum.
You're the kind of townie I dream of playing with as town. <3
I'm going to be heartbroken if you're scum this game.

I would have been heartbroken if I had rolled scum this game.

So I know my alignment. and I know rc should be generally pretty good at hunting for scum. So the fact that hes so wrong on my slot means hes more likely scum pushing for a mislynch

Spicy. What about Morality? What's your read on them?

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 6:19 pm

Ftr I was just about to say that I wasn't sure I wanted to actually lynch you anymore.

VOTE: Tarkus

Maybe this?

I'm having trouble pinning down the non-Morality scum.

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 6:21 pm

I gotta be really careful here because I think flipping town D1 could domino effect to my reads being ignored and town losing.

Shoshin, CoA, everyone else, what are your reads on all of {Vedith, Morality, Yellowsnow, DDL, Tarkus}

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 6:23 pm

In post 1475, Vorkuta wrote:Again
In post 1465, Vorkuta wrote:Maybe in a dozen or so games I'll get closer to understanding that
Like in my eyes some players just have a habit of ending up as the least common denominator and end up being lynchbait. It doesn't have to be guided/manipulated by anyone at all.

I have a question. Do you come from MafiaUniverse?

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 6:23 pm

Because that's a really, really, really MafiaUniversey sentiment.

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 6:24 pm

Yes. I suppose I should refrain from outing of whom though.

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 6:29 pm

It can be seen as shade. I disapprove of the playstyle but I understand it.

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 6:29 pm

I think it's not worth pressuring FL to perform when he's struggling.

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 6:31 pm

Shoshin you still have COA if I die tonight.

You guys will get him.

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 6:35 pm

That's the worst way to get Shoshin to unvote lol

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 6:35 pm

In post 1491, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 1487, RadiantCowbells wrote:I think it's not worth pressuring FL to perform when he's struggling.
Remind me this was a thing tomorrow.

Serious question: why?

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 6:36 pm

It's possibly the single least AI post I have made this game.

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 6:44 pm

You should lynch me and trust my Shoshin townread after I flip.

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 6:48 pm

Talking to Vorkuta. I know that Shoshin is your top townread.

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 6:49 pm

not nearly understanding the vedith placement but i grok everything else

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 6:58 pm

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 6:59 pm

But then............... who is the 3rd skumz

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 11:15 pm

I'd appreciate your thoughts on Morality CoA

Tentatively willing to support you on Tarkus

RadiantCowbells · Fri Feb 22, 2019 11:24 pm

Feel free to hard lurk D1 if you're not into it but you need to come back and be useful on later day phases when I'm gone

RadiantCowbells · Sat Feb 23, 2019 8:34 am

RadiantCowbells · Sat Feb 23, 2019 8:36 am

Read on me creature

RadiantCowbells · Sat Feb 23, 2019 8:42 am

By far my top non Morality scumread is still Vedith, for the record. I'm going to put a case together on him.

RadiantCowbells · Sat Feb 23, 2019 8:43 am

I'm like... really wary of going against CoA on Tarkus especially given that I do think that he has scum equity but at the very least I should put a case down and see how people feel.

RadiantCowbells · Sat Feb 23, 2019 10:12 am

Vedith is very probably a wolf, the story, the game, the movie.

In post 6, Vedith wrote:Hello.
I was a replace in.
But don't assume that my other body saw my role and didn't want to be Scum, maybe they just prefer not to be town!

Morality on the other hand has a very high chance of being Scum.

So, first off, why does someone replacing into a town slot feel the need to preemptively defend themselves against the accusation that their slot replaced out because of their alignment?
Second off, why does someone replacing into a town slot even start thinking along the lines that Morality has +wolf equity for replacing a slot when they know at least one slot replaced out as town?

In post 731, Vedith wrote:
In post 726, Yachting n Socializing wrote:This group plus RCE, that's 1 short of majority which wins.
Between these reads being spot on and Yellows I'm honestly stuck with who to go with right now.

But yeah I think the game is solved too.

This post just feels super, super wolfy on a gut/tone level. I can't say why in any more detail than that.

In post 650, Vedith wrote:Nah I'm not lynching Creature.
Reason too weak.

This is the most scummy feeling post of all the reads on Creature: this is at the height of Creature just being a scumfuck all over the thread and his defense of him is 'reason too weak.'
Note that he doesn't call Creature town, mind you, and when it takes effort to get people onto Creature he backs off the townread. He just doesn't want to be on the wagon.
I don't think anyone at this point makes this post as town but it makes a lot of sense from a scum PoV where he wants to not be on the wagon without dissuading it.

These are the big individual posts that make me think that he's a wolf. But a lot of my wolfread on him is not based off of individual posts but more based on the whole ISO.

1) There is no scumhunting in that ISO. Literally none. He comes up with random reads at times but there is no paper trail of him trying to sort someone and figure out their alignments.
2) Random ass townread on Morality who is scum. Other reads that just make no sense, such as the Creature one. Feels like scum coming up with tactical reads more than anything.
3) Heavy emphasis on staying alive as opposed to doing anything productive. Is that always inherently scummy? No. But in this case I absolutely feel like it's scum.

RadiantCowbells · Sat Feb 23, 2019 10:13 am

VOTE: Vedith

If I can't make this happen then I'll probably just sheep CoA.

RadiantCowbells · Sat Feb 23, 2019 10:25 am

Yawning and stretching indeed.

RadiantCowbells · Sat Feb 23, 2019 10:41 am

Why Tarkus over Vedith, may I know?

RadiantCowbells · Sat Feb 23, 2019 11:06 am

You're... doing a terrible job of trying to be undercover, if you're trying to be undercover.

RadiantCowbells · Sat Feb 23, 2019 11:14 am

My point is that

Vedith and Morality were slanking and not doing anything while Creature was getting wagoned, ie scum didn't want to counter the wagon but didn't want to be on it either.
Then the wagon died and scum needed to push mislynches themselves or be lynched themselves, so they started clusterfucking Shoshin.

RadiantCowbells · Sat Feb 23, 2019 11:15 am

In fairness this might not be that great of a point, I'm not necessarily sure that all the Shoshin votes are scum or even that a lot of them are. Possibly only Morality even.

It's possible that outside of Morality scum have no real willpower to try to fight town this game.

RadiantCowbells · Sat Feb 23, 2019 4:49 pm

Shoshin what are your thoughts on the non-Morality scumpool?

RadiantCowbells · Sat Feb 23, 2019 4:58 pm

Is Morality not on that list b/c truce or not on that list b/c you don't scumread him?

RadiantCowbells · Sat Feb 23, 2019 5:03 pm

I'm unsure. I'm torn between Tarkus and DDL as the slot in the scumpool that has the highest equity of being town.

RadiantCowbells · Sat Feb 23, 2019 5:06 pm

i think there's also a universe where RCE is wolf ftr

RadiantCowbells · Sat Feb 23, 2019 5:12 pm

like

RC
Shoshin
YellowSnow
Boats 'n' Hoez
CoA
Creature
Aura
Vorkuta

I'd be willing to bet on all being town
If I'm wrong its boats/yellow but I don't think I am

then there's like

{DDL, Tarkus, RCE} in the same tier as of right now

then {Vedith}

then {Morality}

RadiantCowbells · Sat Feb 23, 2019 5:14 pm

In post 1596, CultOfAthena wrote:Can you believe me when I say that I have ~reasons~ for scumreading both of them?

Let's take a step back here: If you earnestly believe that one or both of them is definitely scum I will vote with you regardless of my read. I've told you this in the past, it remains true.
I'm asking you if you think that your confidence warrants me going past my higher confidence on Vedith who is notably someone you claim to not know how to read.

RadiantCowbells · Sat Feb 23, 2019 5:23 pm

Ok.

VOTE: DDL

RadiantCowbells · Sat Feb 23, 2019 5:34 pm

For the record after further consideration I think that I think that DDL is vastly more likely to flip scum than Tarkus. I thought Roomy's iso was bad, his replace out was bad, and the entire slot was scummy. Tarkus is lurking, yeah, but I'm not so sure that he's actually scum.

I am not hiding it well, we have played lots together and you compliment me in a lot of post games and that's all the hinting I can really do. Our teams have worked together before. If not, ah well.

VOTE: Tarkus

He is also due for a prod @mod

Can we do DDL instead? Tarkus has one post that feels super town to me and it's enough for me to discount all the lurker commentary against him.
I really, really,

really

find it difficult to mentally muster willpower to go against CoA anymore and I still feel strongly enough to want to disagree on that read. Shoshin also TRs him.

RadiantCowbells · Sat Feb 23, 2019 5:44 pm

In post 1560, RadiantCowbells wrote:
Vedith is very probably a wolf, the story, the game, the movie.

In post 6, Vedith wrote:Hello.
I was a replace in.
But don't assume that my other body saw my role and didn't want to be Scum, maybe they just prefer not to be town!

Morality on the other hand has a very high chance of being Scum.
So, first off, why does someone replacing into a town slot feel the need to preemptively defend themselves against the accusation that their slot replaced out because of their alignment?
Second off, why does someone replacing into a town slot even start thinking along the lines that Morality has +wolf equity for replacing a slot when they know at least one slot replaced out as town?

In post 731, Vedith wrote:
In post 726, Yachting n Socializing wrote:This group plus RCE, that's 1 short of majority which wins.
Between these reads being spot on and Yellows I'm honestly stuck with who to go with right now.

But yeah I think the game is solved too.
This post just feels super, super wolfy on a gut/tone level. I can't say why in any more detail than that.

In post 650, Vedith wrote:Nah I'm not lynching Creature.
Reason too weak.
This is the most scummy feeling post of all the reads on Creature: this is at the height of Creature just being a scumfuck all over the thread and his defense of him is 'reason too weak.'
Note that he doesn't call Creature town, mind you, and when it takes effort to get people onto Creature he backs off the townread. He just doesn't want to be on the wagon.
I don't think anyone at this point makes this post as town but it makes a lot of sense from a scum PoV where he wants to not be on the wagon without dissuading it.

These are the big individual posts that make me think that he's a wolf. But a lot of my wolfread on him is not based off of individual posts but more based on the whole ISO.

1) There is no scumhunting in that ISO. Literally none. He comes up with random reads at times but there is no paper trail of him trying to sort someone and figure out their alignments.
2) Random ass townread on Morality who is scum. Other reads that just make no sense, such as the Creature one. Feels like scum coming up with tactical reads more than anything.
3) Heavy emphasis on staying alive as opposed to doing anything productive. Is that always inherently scummy? No. But in this case I absolutely feel like it's scum.

RadiantCowbells · Sat Feb 23, 2019 5:47 pm

BNH can you do some justice to your DDL townread?

RadiantCowbells · Sat Feb 23, 2019 8:37 pm

In post 1611, DrDolittle wrote:I never want to hear how good you three are at town ever again when I flip. Your town block sucks and your reads suck.

lol...

RadiantCowbells · Sat Feb 23, 2019 8:40 pm

I don't want to lynch Vedith today anymore.

Morality is scum for sure but

RadiantCowbells · Sat Feb 23, 2019 8:52 pm

Where am I at now I wonder

RC
Shoshin
CoA
AuraTheBirb
Vorkuta
Creature

YellowSnow

Vedith
Tarkus

BoatsNHoes
RCEnigma

DDL
Morality

RadiantCowbells · Sat Feb 23, 2019 8:55 pm

let's put vedith a tier below tarkus actually

and i'm fine with that.

RadiantCowbells · Sat Feb 23, 2019 8:57 pm

RadiantCowbells · Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:02 pm

RadiantCowbells · Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:09 pm

ur gonna ask yourself... why the sudden boats n hoes drop

answer: i was more curious what would happen if i townread them than anything else.

RadiantCowbells · Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:10 pm

and a lot of my morality scumread has notably been the likely SvS interactions between them.

I also heavily scumread RCEnigma

RadiantCowbells · Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:12 pm

I actually didn't write the post I was thinking about making about how CoA's presence in games made me far less motivated to actually push people because I feel like I'm better off just lynching her scumreads

RadiantCowbells · Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:13 pm

It definitely hasn't been a forever thing but it's how I've felt since the start of this game, kinda.

RadiantCowbells · Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:14 pm

Spectating that micro didn't really help that feeling, either.

RadiantCowbells · Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:17 pm

I've been in exactly the position FL is right now and I understand how he feels. I think it far, far more points to him being scum than town. I also don't want to pressure him to produce content under the circumstances, so. meh.

I guess I'm fine to give him a break.

RadiantCowbells · Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:18 pm

I should actually read BNH now that I'm not loltownreading them

RadiantCowbells · Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:23 pm

And yet I've said all this and I feel like, despite a long history of disagreeing with CoA, causing us to lose games, her forgiving me with magnanimity, and then me just going on to do it again, I am going to end up fighting her again.

RadiantCowbells · Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:23 pm

I think the single most likely scumteam this game is {RCEnigma, Boats n Hoes, Morality}

RadiantCowbells · Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:24 pm

You will note that it does not include either DDL or Tarkus. Tarkus I outright think is town, DDL I'm just not as sure about.

RadiantCowbells · Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:27 pm

I also feel like I should say, for the record, that I cannot be trusted to read CoA right now.

RadiantCowbells · Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:28 pm

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

RadiantCowbells · Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:28 pm

See she actually makes a lot of sense as scum if DDL is town. Her top 3 scumreads would be town in that universe. If that's the case speedlynch her.

RadiantCowbells · Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:31 pm

Scumreading her is actually really motivating, who knew?

RadiantCowbells · Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:31 pm

VOTE: CultOfAthena

au revoir.

RadiantCowbells · Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:31 pm

that is, for the record, french for goodbye.

RadiantCowbells · Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:31 pm

i speak french. I am a very cultured gentleman.

RadiantCowbells · Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:32 pm

How to kill every single townread on my slot: the book: the movie.

RadiantCowbells · Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:33 pm

Funnily enough the easiest person to townread in the remainder is Morality making it BnH, CoA, RCEnigma

RadiantCowbells · Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:35 pm

With RCE <-> Morality being the most obvious flip in that set

RadiantCowbells · Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:36 pm

Am I?

RadiantCowbells · Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:38 pm

I am serious, and stop calling me Shirley!

RadiantCowbells · Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:38 pm

I think

it's RCE, CoA, BNH exactly

RadiantCowbells · Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:39 pm

like exactly

and i have strong reasons to put every single member in there

RadiantCowbells · Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:40 pm

like you put any of them as scum and they have obvious associatives with the other two

the distancing that RcE is trying to get 3.5 towncredits for looks really svs

RadiantCowbells · Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:42 pm

also RcE is reacting like someone who just had their christmas present yanked out from in front of them in regards to my reads changes

RadiantCowbells · Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:48 pm

i'm convinced.

gonna need townies to follow me on any of the 3. i don't care which. just pick one and murder them.

RadiantCowbells · Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:49 pm

CoA/BnH is the more confident 2 of the 3 so I would vastly prefer murdering one of them but if I gotta lynch RCE I won't cry about it

RadiantCowbells · Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:49 pm

In post 1655, Vedith wrote:VOTE: Tarkus

We should go with this instead of RCE.

Fuck you

RadiantCowbells · Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:50 pm

you're scum go away

RadiantCowbells · Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:51 pm

WE ARE LYNCHING 1/3 OF COA BNH RCENIGMA OR WE'RE LYNCHING ME AND SHEEPING ME ON THEM WHEN I'M DEAD.

RadiantCowbells · Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:51 pm

In post 1661, Vedith wrote:Me or RCE?

you're just being shit

RadiantCowbells · Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:52 pm

In post 1664, RCEnigma wrote:Preferably the reasons on CoA first since I townread her more. Unless it's just a fear read, in which case I don't really care.

A FEAR READ ON A PLAYER NOTORIOUS FOR HAVING A TERRIBLE SCUM GAME. OK. AS IF ANYONE BELIEVES YOU'RE DESCRIBING A SCUMREAD ON COA AS A FEAR READ.

RadiantCowbells · Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:53 pm

Just stay away from me after this game Vedith. I'm done.