Mini Normal 2060: World Architecture [Endgame]

Tchill13 · Post Post #17 (isolation #0) » Sun Feb 24, 2019 12:14 pm

Gonna have to vote my biggest crush here, and it ain't flavor leaf.

VOTE: notmafia

Tchill13 · Post Post #35 (isolation #1) » Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:22 pm

In post 21, PenguinPower wrote:Something tells me that N_M may be a PR.

Not sure.

Need to check something first.

I just looked at all of his past games. I can confirm he may or may not be a PR. still not sure.

Tchill13 · Post Post #74 (isolation #2) » Mon Feb 25, 2019 7:31 am

VOTE: persivul

I'm gonna ask that PP keep up his top notch comedic antics this entire game please and thank you.

Tchill13 · Post Post #83 (isolation #3) » Mon Feb 25, 2019 1:49 pm

Somebody takes one vote off and 2 are immediately thrown on. Why didn't yall vote before flavor removed his?

Tchill13 · Post Post #86 (isolation #4) » Mon Feb 25, 2019 3:24 pm

VOTE: enter

So you didn't think the worm wagon was going anywhere, at 3 votes, but the wagon that just had been put back at 1 was going to pick up steam? Where the only vote on the wagon, mine, hadn't even been explained?

Not looking too much into this. I just wanted a decent explanation.

Tchill13 · Post Post #94 (isolation #5) » Mon Feb 25, 2019 4:18 pm

Looking forward to mohabs explanation too.

Tchill13 · Post Post #119 (isolation #6) » Tue Feb 26, 2019 4:38 am

In post 110, Persivul wrote:
In post 74, Tchill13 wrote:VOTE: persivul

I'm gonna ask that PP keep up his top notch comedic antics this entire game please and thank you.
Salty that I nailed you as scum in our last outing?

Other than the last game I haven't played mafia for about 5 months. No personal grudges will come from me (unless ppl start flirting with NM of course... Or flavor leaf, or PenguinPower.)

Tchill13 · Post Post #120 (isolation #7) » Tue Feb 26, 2019 4:42 am

Sad sheep must be an alt. I've never played with them yet they know how I operate.

Mohab explain why you voted persivul after flavor unvoted.

Mohab explain why you vote persivul after flavor takes the vote off.

Tchill13 · Post Post #127 (isolation #8) » Tue Feb 26, 2019 7:05 am

In post 80, Sad Sheep wrote:VOTE: Persivul

Damn it. I meant sad sheep.

Sad sheep needs to explain his vote.

Tchill13 · Post Post #158 (isolation #9) » Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:24 am

So much talk of old games...

I just wanted a reason. Does it matter why you voted after FL unvoted? Idk. Depends on the reason.

Tchill13 · Post Post #159 (isolation #10) » Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:24 am

In post 154, Dr Worm wrote:
In post 152, chennisden wrote:I've seen Dr. Worm lolhammer all the time.
LIES!!

TAKE IT BACK LIARMAN!!

Not a fan of the persona.

Huge fan of liarman lol

Tchill13 · Post Post #234 (isolation #11) » Tue Feb 26, 2019 5:39 pm

In post 186, Jibril wrote:I've done a lot by not hammering.

In post 190, Jibril wrote:
In post 189, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 186, Jibril wrote:I've done a lot by not hammering.
Whose to say you were even around with the opportunity to?
Me

VOTE: jibrill

Tchill13 · Post Post #235 (isolation #12) » Tue Feb 26, 2019 5:40 pm

In post 233, PenguinPower wrote:Hey! Mr. Dr Worm...where you do you think your vote should be right now?

that dr. worm wagon dissolved kinda quickly for little to no reason other than enter is emotional.

Tchill13 · Post Post #236 (isolation #13) » Tue Feb 26, 2019 5:42 pm

In post 227, Enter wrote:If you don't mean things the way I'm taking them, I'm sorry.

I'm frustrated because fluffposting gets on my nerves, and we're on page 10 and no one has done anything particularly AI (IMO). The wagon on me is barely even readable FMPOV cuz everyone's vote on me looks like a joke. This isn't mafia. At least not the mafia I've ever played before. It's not the mafia I really wanted to sign up for. I'll go clear my head, but if this is how closed games usually go, I'm sorry I signed up. I hate to say this and play like this because it honestly usually isn't me. I hate emotional crap. I hate it when I do it and I hate it when other people do it. But I have no idea how to even begin processing this game. If other people have reads right now, then I have reached a whole new level of bad that I cannot even begin to handle, and I apologize for that.

Whatever. I'm going to go clear my head. I'll be back later, and I'll try to match the tone of the thread.

and this, ladies and gents, is why i dont particularly care for d1.

always nice to see someone that cares though. please don't replace out, i'd much rather play with ppl like you.

Tchill13 · Post Post #237 (isolation #14) » Tue Feb 26, 2019 5:45 pm

In post 199, Enter wrote:I hate it when people say "this town is screwed if I die"
I don't mind it when people say "Wow stop playing like a four year old found a keyboard"
Quit asking me to chill. If you're mad cuz I'm saying people are playing like the latter, I don't care. If you're mad cuz I'm saying the former, you're wrong, and there's reason for me to be pissed.

In post 201, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 199, Enter wrote:I hate it when people say "this town is screwed if I die"
I don't mind it when people say "Wow stop playing like a four year old found a keyboard"
Quit asking me to chill. If you're mad cuz I'm saying people are playing like the latter, I don't care. If you're mad cuz I'm saying the former, you're wrong, and there's reason for me to be pissed.
Pretty sure there's no reason for you to be pissed at all, but you do you.

In post 205, Not_Mafia wrote:
In post 203, Jibril wrote:If you call me Senor again I won't be sleeping you, Miltank
Si senor

VOTE: Enter

town points for PP trying to dissolve a spat early d1 before it happens.

scum points for NM due to timing.

Tchill13 · Post Post #238 (isolation #15) » Tue Feb 26, 2019 5:46 pm

In post 169, chennisden wrote:
In post 164, Not_Mafia wrote:VOTE: Enter
Unannounced L-1...

its one thing to point it out.

its another to do something about it.

Tchill13 · Post Post #255 (isolation #16) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 6:20 am

In post 250, chennisden wrote:
In post 238, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 169, chennisden wrote:
In post 164, Not_Mafia wrote:VOTE: Enter
Unannounced L-1...
its one thing to point it out.

its another to do something about it.
But I was never on his wagon?

also

VOTE: Jibril

for pretty much the same reasons as the rest of her wagon.

Enter seems like an easy mislynch - would not be surprised if both scum were on his wagon at one point.

You could have voted NM was all I was saying. Especially this early in the game where it doesn't take too much to get a vote. I always keep an eye out for ppl that mention something without acting on it this early. Had you voted NM there, the way this game has gone so far, we could easily have a NM wagon instead of a jibrill atm. I think it's worth noting.

Tchill13 · Post Post #257 (isolation #17) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 6:26 am

Kinda odd for flavor to be THIS inactive. If he says he's busy, he's busy. I can only give my good friend the benefit of the doubt for so long though.

Sad sheep what's your comfort level with all players here? Ik you mentioned me earlier. Do you have any experience with others or do you just have eyes for me?

Haven't seen anything that has a decent amount of value from flavor, flippynips, Mohab or Dr. Worm.

And I'm gonna tell you rn I'm not a fan of personas like the type Dr Worm is playing. I tend to just glance over players that posts in such a manner. Of course I'd rather play with someone like that than a lurker.

Tchill13 · Post Post #258 (isolation #18) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 6:28 am

In post 256, Slaxx wrote:Posting from mobile but initial thoughts:

Chenn’s thing about the playerlist being smaller seems town and not faked
TChill is being way more proactive and open with his reads than he was as scum in our last game

If you're talking about the game a few weeks ago I'd advise you not to read into that. That was the most piss poor effort I've put into a game for a long, long time and I do apologize.

Tchill13 · Post Post #272 (isolation #19) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 9:19 am

Disgusting fake hammer sad sheep. Idk if we can Call it a fake hammer. Disgusting hammer announcement by sad sheep.

Tchill13 · Post Post #273 (isolation #20) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 9:21 am

If nm and jib play the same I don't want either near lylo. Would much rather lynch jib atm than anyone else considering he already looked pretty rough.

Tchill13 · Post Post #325 (isolation #21) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 4:20 pm

In post 318, Flavor Leaf wrote:I don’t remember playing with Slaxx there.

And Jibril replaced Rb who rage replaced out after he realized he probably would have gotten caught out by me, and Jibril pocketed me by just calling me master and sheeping me throughout.

So i can’t really read Jibril.

Lmao. The EGO lolol. That's hilarious. One of my favorite flavor leaf qualities.

There's been more talk about other games in this thread than this actual game though.

Tchill13 · Post Post #328 (isolation #22) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 4:23 pm

I have a theory that I'm actually happy with participation at this point in the game considering it could be much worse. I've got enough reads to be happy with.

Jibril/worm/NM can go. Jibril I've made my case. I really, really don't like worms posting style and I'm fine with that lynch considering his play. Nm... We have a great relationship lol.

Tchill13 · Post Post #330 (isolation #23) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 4:28 pm

I don't really see the point of lynching anyone not named there and we can only lynch one person today.

I've suggested lynching multiple ppl in a row but that's not ever received well.

Tchill13 · Post Post #339 (isolation #24) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 5:00 pm

VOTE: Dr. Worm

Next time don't post in a way that makes it seem like you only care about town cred instead of game solving on d1. Especially if you role a PR. thanks.

Tchill13 · Post Post #356 (isolation #25) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 7:05 pm

In post 352, Jibril wrote:Dr, Mareep, Chill town

Not a fan of the claim. Not a fan that you're only reads are ppl that backed off of you after the claim...

Tchill13 · Post Post #357 (isolation #26) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 7:07 pm

Day 1 is the day to lynch baggage. Nobody seems to understand that. If you think flippy is scum I'm not sure why you're not pushing that. If we lynch him and he flips town that's a much better position than lynching someone that is town and not changing your assumption that flippy is scum d2.

Of course if we lynch scum d1 I guess it works out.

Tchill13 · Post Post #374 (isolation #27) » Thu Feb 28, 2019 5:50 am

In post 361, Persivul wrote:
In post 328, Tchill13 wrote:I really, really don't like worms posting style and I'm fine with that lynch considering his play.
I get the posting style (although I personally find it amusing), but what specifically has been scummy about his play?

I browsed his iso and seen nothing of significance. A lot of fluff so I'm fine with lynching him. Half annoying half could be scum by poe/fluff.

The guy that claimed JK is a little worrisome. He claimed so he'd survive until tomorrow. Does he no realize that if he's a protective and claims d1 that's a death sentence due to scum being able to perform a nk? Wonder why he wasn't thinking about that.

NM is almost always a good d1 lynch. I did see him once game solve towards the end of a game which I thought he did really well at. Just depends on which NM we get I guess.

Tchill13 · Post Post #390 (isolation #28) » Thu Feb 28, 2019 8:26 am

In post 383, Flavor Leaf wrote:Yes, NM is a fantastic push for scum because it’s so easy to blend in as town pushing NM.

You always want slots like nm in lylo if you're scum. Wouldn't waste a D1 lynch on that type of play style unless scum just refuse to plan ahead.

Tchill13 · Post Post #391 (isolation #29) » Thu Feb 28, 2019 8:26 am

I like PP and Sad sheep so far. Strong TR's there.

Tchill13 · Post Post #393 (isolation #30) » Thu Feb 28, 2019 8:31 am

The only thing keeping me from tunneling jibril is the claim is only justifiable due to the lolhammer players in here.

I mean how do you justify a claim by stating you didn't think you'd live to the next day... On day one... As the protective. Easy argument to be made that the claim only solidifies he won't live until the next day.

Soft claim is a much better play there. I don't think his reason is valid. I think he made it very clear he wanted town cred for not hammering and I think he didn't do much prodding or figuring out.

The only argument to be made is I'd hope scum would be much more self aware of the actions they're taking. It's honestly not a good look as either alignment.

Tchill13 · Post Post #394 (isolation #31) » Thu Feb 28, 2019 8:34 am

Mohab/flippnips/dr.worm/jibril

that's my lynch list. I don't have any game play to justify NMs lynch.

That's a fine group.

Tchill13 · Post Post #397 (isolation #32) » Thu Feb 28, 2019 9:56 am

This might be the most work I've EVER done d1. So I feel decent about it.

PP, sad sheep and myself I feel like have poked and prodded the most.

If I'm wrong about them I'll figure it out.

Day 1 reads are not the end all be all. That said I feel good about where I'm at atm.

Tchill13 · Post Post #410 (isolation #33) » Thu Feb 28, 2019 10:36 am

I'm much more comfortable believing FL when i think FL is town. Not quite there yet.

Tchill13 · Post Post #411 (isolation #34) » Thu Feb 28, 2019 10:37 am

In post 409, Emperor flippyNips wrote:
In post 405, Flavor Leaf wrote:Those are just the kind of posts he makes when he doesn’t actually know where to go, but it’s Day 1, so that’s not actually an issue, and makes him the perfect candidate for a mislynch

Well tbf I’ve only been keeping up with what’s happened recently haven’t gone thru iso’s Yet so I haven’t found someone I think is actual scum. I think jibril is a bigger misynch candidate cos of the way she just blindly follows what some people say.
By that I mean when someone says vote this person she does it, which looked scummy to me the first time I saw it happen

Absolutely positively nothing to do with why jibril is being or maybe voted at all.

Tchill13 · Post Post #419 (isolation #35) » Thu Feb 28, 2019 1:22 pm

I could meet you halfway on Chen.... Right on the borderline is where I wanna stay... Woo ooh.

Tchill13 · Post Post #428 (isolation #36) » Thu Feb 28, 2019 4:29 pm

VOTE: notmafia

Tchill13 · Post Post #430 (isolation #37) » Thu Feb 28, 2019 4:50 pm

Because pretty clearly we're divided on who to lynch and I'd like to work towards some type of resolution.

Tchill13 · Post Post #440 (isolation #38) » Fri Mar 01, 2019 8:09 am

I just realized something...

This day phase needs to end lol.

Tchill13 · Post Post #447 (isolation #39) » Fri Mar 01, 2019 10:23 am

Lol enter got scared real quick

Tchill13 · Post Post #449 (isolation #40) » Fri Mar 01, 2019 10:31 am

How can you see who's gonna join the wagon if it only last 4 posts? Wtf?

Tchill13 · Post Post #453 (isolation #41) » Fri Mar 01, 2019 10:57 am

This is just weird.

Tchill13 · Post Post #454 (isolation #42) » Fri Mar 01, 2019 11:00 am

VOTE: enter

It's not LaL. It's because you've been weird as hell.

Nice way to tuck it into one specific reason.

Tchill13 · Post Post #456 (isolation #43) » Fri Mar 01, 2019 11:07 am

He said he voted jibril as a test and then he said it was a lie and he actually voted jibril for... Something...

Tchill13 · Post Post #478 (isolation #44) » Fri Mar 01, 2019 1:39 pm

I disagree about Slaxx wanting to be seen as town more than putting effort into reading ppl.

I'm ready for a flip. Like super duper ready.

Tchill13 · Post Post #515 (isolation #45) » Fri Mar 01, 2019 3:57 pm

Strange turn of events.

Gun to my head enter is scum over NM.

I absolutely love when we claim like half of our PR's day one. It's fucking great...

At least the claimed protective has ppl worth targeting now. If both are cops (highly unlikely) and we decide to keep all 3 claims alive that means scum won't have a sure fire kill on a claimed investigative.

If we lynch a claimed investigative then I'd think the JK would protect the other investigative which would surely lead to the JK death.

In both scenarios the JK dies more than likely. Just depends on whether or not scum want to risk a no kill so town doesn't get 2 cop results (if claims are true).

Very odd situation here.

Tchill13 · Post Post #518 (isolation #46) » Fri Mar 01, 2019 3:58 pm

Fake news? Elaborate.

Tchill13 · Post Post #522 (isolation #47) » Fri Mar 01, 2019 4:02 pm

In post 519, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 515, Tchill13 wrote:I absolutely love when we claim like half of our PR's day one. It's fucking great...
You think town has 6 PRs?

I got into a HEATED exchange over my issues with balance on this site and I refuse to speculate on setup ever again. I'd really like to avoid discussing it. Yall can speculate but I won't try to figure it out. It pretty much lead to my longest break away from this site.

Tchill13 · Post Post #560 (isolation #48) » Fri Mar 01, 2019 5:23 pm

VOTE: Dr. Worm

Only real fear is that FL is orchestrating multiple fake claims. I've always preferred to keep him around until later day phases if Idk his alignment for the same reasons.

I think one of the 3 claims is scum. I doubt it's the one that was a counter.

Tchill13 · Post Post #577 (isolation #49) » Sat Mar 02, 2019 6:02 am

In post 571, Flavor Leaf wrote:Scum probably lurking hoping some townie gets them out of this

Regardless of what Dr. Worm flips I don't think there should be a lot of value on who's on this lynch.

Divided votes all day. Sometimes 3 wagons with the same amount of votes. Then the games activity died a bit and ppl grew restless for a lynch and now we've piled up on the guy with the odd posting style because nobody wants to have to iso this guy if he makes it to day 3 or 4. If worm had said anything of importance game related maybe, maybe I value the ppl on his wagon after the flip. Regardless of worms alignment Idc who's on this wagon though. If it flips scum then there's probably scum on it. If it flips town then it's probably the best townie lynch we could have d1.

This dude was inevitably getting lynched today. Someone please hurry up and end d1.

Tchill13 · Post Post #596 (isolation #50) » Sat Mar 02, 2019 8:49 am

Dude. I've played with you more than I've played with anybody else on site lol. Im well aware of your powers haha.

That said I'm ready to get this game started.

Tchill13 · Post Post #602 (isolation #51) » Sat Mar 02, 2019 9:55 am

In post 599, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 590, chennisden wrote:Also flavor if persivul is a real neighborizer please confirm it D2
Me confirming him being a neighborizer doesn’t confirm his alignment.

Plus, Tchill won’t ever trust me with neighborhood claims anymore.

Persivul it's because me and flavor orchestrated some wacky stuff once. As far as what to watch for Idk. I'm not good at neighborhood play. All ik is I don't trust flavor until I've got a good read on him. A flipped town flavor is my favorite because his reads are great. That's the only time ik for sure he's town though.

Just know I'll take everything with some hesitancy when it comes to info about yalls neighborhood. If it's even true.

Tchill13 · Post Post #603 (isolation #52) » Sat Mar 02, 2019 10:30 am

Good lord somebody kill this man.

Tchill13 · Post Post #653 (isolation #53) » Mon Mar 04, 2019 1:54 pm

In post 631, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 628, Slaxx wrote:
In post 627, Flavor Leaf wrote:I’m obviously testing something here with Sheep.
I think that defeats the purpose if you explicitly stating.

What in the hell are you doing.
They all like to say this, but this is a Boonskiies Special. Me saying it
is
part of the reaction test.

Might not even be saying that towards Sheep. I might not even know who it’s for.

from what i've seen so far this is a boonskies special, and i didn't kill anyone in case yall are wondering.

Tchill13 · Post Post #658 (isolation #54) » Mon Mar 04, 2019 1:59 pm

I'm not gonna say we should chainsaw the wagon yet but obviously i believe 1 scum is on the wagon. Almost always the case with a d1 scum lynch.

Tchill13 · Post Post #660 (isolation #55) » Mon Mar 04, 2019 2:03 pm

In post 604, northsidegal wrote:
A lynch has been achieved!

VC 1.Final

_{Alhambra, Granada, Spain}

votes
[7] Dr Worm
:
Flavor Leaf 557, PenguinPower 558, Tchill13 560, Enter 561, Not_Mafia 563, Persivul 584, Emperor flippyNips 587

[2] Persivul
:
Dr Worm 301, Sad Sheep 372

[1] Enter
:
Mohab500 52

[1] Jibril
:
chennisden 250

[1] Tchill13
:
Jibril 508

[1] Not Voting
:
Slaxx 412

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch

The Day 1 deadline is in
: (expired on 2019-03-08 13:43:59)

Mod Notes
:

out of flippynips, persivul, flavor and PP ... Well i think PP is town (hopefully that doesn't change this day phase). Don't currently have a strong stance on the other 3 yet. I'll have to iso and see what happens this day phase.

Tchill13 · Post Post #662 (isolation #56) » Mon Mar 04, 2019 2:04 pm

In post 656, Enter wrote:VOTE: chennisdan

I investigated NM like you asked. My result should be relatively obvious.

did FL ask you to investigate NM? I don't remember seeing that.

Tchill13 · Post Post #663 (isolation #57) » Mon Mar 04, 2019 2:05 pm

and sad sheep is out of enter's list.

Tchill13 · Post Post #664 (isolation #58) » Mon Mar 04, 2019 2:05 pm

In post 663, Tchill13 wrote:and sad sheep is out of enter's list.

disregard lol

Tchill13 · Post Post #666 (isolation #59) » Mon Mar 04, 2019 2:15 pm

is slaxx the type that always shuts down tests?

big fan of boonskies tests here. I encourage them for the most part (he's not a god he's occasionally wrong) Usually only use them after a town flip because he does the same shit as scum. You can usually tell when he's scum if he keeps mislynching. His reads are too good on a regular basis to be constantly pushing town players.

Tchill13 · Post Post #668 (isolation #60) » Mon Mar 04, 2019 3:12 pm

In post 662, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 656, Enter wrote:VOTE: chennisdan

I investigated NM like you asked. My result should be relatively obvious.
did FL ask you to investigate NM? I don't remember seeing that.

Tchill13 · Post Post #671 (isolation #61) » Mon Mar 04, 2019 4:00 pm

In post 668, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 662, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 656, Enter wrote:VOTE: chennisdan

I investigated NM like you asked. My result should be relatively obvious.
did FL ask you to investigate NM? I don't remember seeing that.

@ENTER AS IN ENTER PLEASE ANSWER THIS

Tchill13 · Post Post #672 (isolation #62) » Mon Mar 04, 2019 4:01 pm

I guess jibril doesn't have any thoughts.

Tchill13 · Post Post #698 (isolation #63) » Mon Mar 04, 2019 5:34 pm

Jibril jail kept an ascetic instead of a claimed cop? (although fake claim). That's nice. That's real nice.

Tchill13 · Post Post #722 (isolation #64) » Mon Mar 04, 2019 6:52 pm

VOTE: persivul

I agree with the overall premise of Slaxx push. Especially when I take into consideration what I believe Dr. Worms skill level probably is. Makes a good point with that in mind.

Jibril why did you JK the ascetic?

Tchill13 · Post Post #725 (isolation #65) » Mon Mar 04, 2019 7:02 pm

Persivul why did you target flavor leaf in the neighborhood instead of a claimed PR?

Tchill13 · Post Post #733 (isolation #66) » Mon Mar 04, 2019 7:14 pm

In post 728, Slaxx wrote:
In post 722, Tchill13 wrote:VOTE: persivul

I agree with the overall premise of Slaxx push. Especially when I take into consideration what I believe Dr. Worms skill level probably is. Makes a good point with that in mind.

Jibril why did you JK the ascetic?
I’m assuming you think Worm is an alt if someone decent? Bit off topic but I can’t exactly ask anywhere else, so.

Comes off as an entry level player to me so I agree with the points you made about distancing. I think it's something that a player of his caliber would do. That's assuming I'm correct about his skill level.

Tchill13 · Post Post #734 (isolation #67) » Mon Mar 04, 2019 7:16 pm

In post 727, Enter wrote:Your regular inability to attempt to work through things for yourself is going to drive me mad.

In post 729, Enter wrote:Am I dumb in thinking that the questions Tchill is asking have obvious answers?
Am I dumb in thinking that he might be asking questions to fake activity?

You're dumb to answer questions I have for particular players not named persivul.

Tchill13 · Post Post #735 (isolation #68) » Mon Mar 04, 2019 7:21 pm

In post 698, Tchill13 wrote:Jibril jail kept an ascetic instead of a claimed cop? (although fake claim). That's nice. That's real nice.

This is about jibril doing a pretty stupid thing imo. Has nothing to do with enter or his claim. This ACTUALLY had a whole point to it. Of course I'm quite stupid and only ask dumb questions. So maybe it's worthless.

Tchill13 · Post Post #738 (isolation #69) » Mon Mar 04, 2019 7:25 pm

I think the light bus is a pretty easy maneuver even for beginners. More experienced players hate associations from what I've seen on this site so I'd actually think the opposite of what you're saying. Especially considering that happened d1. Could very well be a gimmicky alt but I always try to judge the play I've seen in a particular game unless I'm EXTREMELY comfortable with a player (such as flavor leaf).

Tchill13 · Post Post #739 (isolation #70) » Mon Mar 04, 2019 7:26 pm

In post 737, Slaxx wrote:
In post 735, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 698, Tchill13 wrote:Jibril jail kept an ascetic instead of a claimed cop? (although fake claim). That's nice. That's real nice.
This is about jibril doing a pretty stupid thing imo. Has nothing to do with enter or his claim. This ACTUALLY had a whole point to it. Of course I'm quite stupid and only ask dumb questions. So maybe it's worthless.
I think the idea was that if he is telling the truth nothing bad would happen, but if he is lying they might stop a kill or maybe a mafia PR action.

I've got a theory but I'd rather not roll it out yet. Day just started.

Tchill13 · Post Post #742 (isolation #71) » Mon Mar 04, 2019 7:33 pm

Listen you're all lucky I didn't come out of the gates pushing NM as scum. I've done shit like that before (more than I'd like to count) and I KNOW flavor can back me up on that.

Tchill13 · Post Post #744 (isolation #72) » Mon Mar 04, 2019 7:54 pm

In post 743, Enter wrote:
In post 735, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 698, Tchill13 wrote:Jibril jail kept an ascetic instead of a claimed cop? (although fake claim). That's nice. That's real nice.
This is about jibril doing a pretty stupid thing imo. Has nothing to do with enter or his claim. This ACTUALLY had a whole point to it. Of course I'm quite stupid and only ask dumb questions. So maybe it's worthless.
Yeah, a whole point that was discussed YESTERDAY. Which is something you somehow managed to miss. Again. Congrats

but nm's claim wasn't confirmed and neither was yours. Yours still isnt due to you having a town result on the only flipped town player. while i do believe your claim atm the door is still open.

I also still haven't proven my point yet. Because you're belittling me i'm gonna take my time with that. Didn't know a lvl 9001 super sayain mafia lord was in our midst. I'll try to step my game up when i play with you from now on.... Sheesh.

Tchill13 · Post Post #746 (isolation #73) » Mon Mar 04, 2019 8:07 pm

i love playing with egos. whether its in the form of someone thinking they are great or someone evaluating me. so by all means if i can help you feel better about yourself let me know. this week just started ik mondays can be rough but I'll be your pick me up. no problem babe. If i need to get you a drink let me know where the fridge is i always get it mixed up with the freezer. I'm Soooo stupid ik. You told me.

Tchill13 · Post Post #749 (isolation #74) » Mon Mar 04, 2019 8:19 pm

good enough for me. I was wondering.

Tchill13 · Post Post #751 (isolation #75) » Mon Mar 04, 2019 8:34 pm

sir you are on the wrong site if you dont want to play with bad mafia players lol. Ppl also can't play well every game. You can call me whatever you'd like idc. I will act accordingly though just makes it more enjoyable for me. I can tell you care a lot which is nice to see. Ppl miss things though. They also sometimes have reasons for doing things you may not think of. Of course if you're going to answer questions I ask for others maybe I should only ask you questions. I appreciate the ... "call for attention to detail". You're barking up the wrong tree. You're statements won't make me care anymore or any less. In fact I've had a major issue of caring too much in the past. I'm not gonna do that anymore. I'm not gonna be a lazy, ignorant player but im not gonna go mad paying attention to detail either.

Tchill13 · Post Post #753 (isolation #76) » Mon Mar 04, 2019 8:43 pm

in all seriousness id rather play with someone like you than 99 percent of the ppl ive played with here before. no hard feelings.

Tchill13 · Post Post #782 (isolation #77) » Tue Mar 05, 2019 6:06 am

In post 761, Persivul wrote:
In post 666, Tchill13 wrote:is slaxx the type that always shuts down tests?

big fan of boonskies tests here. I encourage them for the most part (he's not a god he's occasionally wrong) Usually only use them after a town flip because he does the same shit as scum. You can usually tell when he's scum if he keeps mislynching. His reads are too good on a regular basis to be constantly pushing town players.
What's the point of this? The uselessness of this post sticks out like a sore thumb.

seemed to me like slaxx was trying to shutdown what flavorleaf was doing and I was explaining my stance on Flavorleaf. You ppl acting like I have no reason to post are ridiculous. I've been pushed for a lot of things. I don't think I've ever been pushed for fluff though.

Tchill13 · Post Post #785 (isolation #78) » Tue Mar 05, 2019 6:09 am

In post 774, Persivul wrote:
In post 725, Tchill13 wrote:Persivul why did you target flavor leaf in the neighborhood instead of a claimed PR?
How does a role increase the value of hood discussion?

I felt like you could have at least confirmed some night actions. PR tells you who they targeted and you confirm... I have quite the issue with how the PR's played the night phase and will explain that momentarily.

Tchill13 · Post Post #788 (isolation #79) » Tue Mar 05, 2019 6:17 am

So Enter (cop Aescetic) was protected by Jibril (claimed JK). Enter investigated NM (claimed town cop).

WHY did we direct the JK to JK the Aescetic? WHY did we direct the Aescetic to investigate NM? We cant confirm the JK because Obviously it's useless to protect Enter. We gave Scum a clear target instead of letting Jibril making it 50/50 on which player he'd protect.We also should have known Enters action would be useless on NM if we had already directed Jibril to protect Enter, due to the fact that scum would kill NM.

Had we left it 50/50 then scum probably would have killed the JK. Whiich theoretically (at the time of claims we believed) would have given us 2 cop night action results. So given that we already claimed a shit ton of roles we also wasted n1 imo. WHY did that happen?

Tchill13 · Post Post #791 (isolation #80) » Tue Mar 05, 2019 6:52 am

Obviously I should have caught this and I'm a bit at fault for not catching it but what a piss poor way to use the night actions. Really wasted a night phase there.

Tchill13 · Post Post #795 (isolation #81) » Tue Mar 05, 2019 8:49 am

How much longer until prods start going out?

Tchill13 · Post Post #833 (isolation #82) » Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:20 pm

PP what do you think about the coordination of the night actions?

Tchill13 · Post Post #837 (isolation #83) » Tue Mar 05, 2019 4:43 pm

In post 834, PenguinPower wrote:I think I agreed it sounded good but in practice was probably not the best idea.

What part even sounded good?

Tchill13 · Post Post #845 (isolation #84) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 5:37 am

I'm just saying enter copping nm while the Jk jk's enter is not OK. It wasted enters action and it should have been obvious that was going to happen. Scum will kill a cop claim over a JK claim if they know the cop won't be protected.

Chennisden does not look to great but neither does FL for poorly directing night actions. I'd like to see more from Mohab obviously. Slaxx is lean scum for me.

Tchill13 · Post Post #851 (isolation #85) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 7:13 am

Which night action did you direct?

And why the hell are we putting someone at L-2 with minimal input from flippynips or Mohab?

Tchill13 · Post Post #852 (isolation #86) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 7:13 am

Jibril why did you JK enter?

Tchill13 · Post Post #855 (isolation #87) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 7:52 am

Apologies FL I thought you told him to do that, mainly because there. Should be no other reason he WOULD do that. Weird af.

Tchill13 · Post Post #856 (isolation #88) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 7:53 am

All that does is make sure we can't confirm jibril after n1.

Tchill13 · Post Post #858 (isolation #89) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:09 am

Lol. I was like FL has lost his freaking mind haha.

Tchill13 · Post Post #859 (isolation #90) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:11 am

VOTE: chennisden

L-1. let's see who hops off the wagon immediately.

Tchill13 · Post Post #863 (isolation #91) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:25 am

We lynched scum d1. I want to see who's posturing on chennisden atm. Sue me. Glad you posted without unvoting though you've given yourself some merit.

Tchill13 · Post Post #864 (isolation #92) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:26 am

Are you fucking kidding me jibril.

Tchill13 · Post Post #865 (isolation #93) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:27 am

Jibril please post some reads for crying out loud.

Tchill13 · Post Post #868 (isolation #94) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:30 am

Explain that.

Tchill13 · Post Post #872 (isolation #95) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:33 am

In post 869, PenguinPower wrote:I'm getting quickly frustrated with the pervasive quickhammering that has come onsite over the past few months.

Dude didn't even make comments on the game state today. I didn't think he, Mohab nor flippynips was around and there's been countless games where I put someone at L-1 someone immediately hops off the wagon and votes me. I wanted to see who would do that. Of fucking course I should have known better when I'm playing with A CLAIMED JAIL KEEPER WHO JAIL KEPT AN AESCETIC. how blatantly stupid.

It's not dragging out. It's waiting to hear from Mohab and flippynips.

Tchill13 · Post Post #878 (isolation #96) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:37 am

The only good thing about this is if chennisden flips scum... Kinda weird that you see this as a good day phase and good play from jibril.

Tchill13 · Post Post #879 (isolation #97) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:38 am

In post 877, Jibril wrote:I think chennis is a Werebeast. Not sure after that. Chill shouldn't L-1 if he didn't want me to hammer. If anyone on Dr Worm is a Werebeast I think it would be Chill.

YOU WEREN'T AROUND AND YOU NEVER POSTED THOUGHTS. YOU'RE ADMITTING TO HARDCORE LURKING AFTER A SHITTY NIGHT ONE CLAIMED ACTION.

Tchill13 · Post Post #880 (isolation #98) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:39 am

Jibril is gonna be more active now after a lynch Lmao. GTFOH

Tchill13 · Post Post #883 (isolation #99) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:40 am

In post 877, Jibril wrote:I think chennis is a Werebeast. Not sure after that. Chill shouldn't L-1 if he didn't want me to hammer. If anyone on Dr Worm is a Werebeast I think it would be Chill.

Like I'm responsible for you voting chennisden. Why didn't you vote him before I did. You've obviously kept up with the thread.

Tchill13 · Post Post #886 (isolation #100) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:41 am

Hey guys IT'S MY FAULT jibril didn't vote chennisden before I did and he's been hardcore lurking. WHAT THE ACTUAL HELL?

Tchill13 · Post Post #888 (isolation #101) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:42 am

In post 884, Enter wrote:jib if you jk chill i can't invest, right?

you should jk him and i'll go elsewhere

Yes sir let's continue to let scum know what we're doing. Fucking idiotic.

Tchill13 · Post Post #889 (isolation #102) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:43 am

In post 887, Enter wrote:
In post 886, Tchill13 wrote:Hey guys IT'S MY FAULT jibril didn't vote chennisden before I did and he's been hardcore lurking. WHAT THE ACTUAL HELL?
jib was waiting for wagon to get to l-1 to quickhammer cuz she knew scum gonna pull scum move like you were doing

Hey remember when you "genuinely felt dumb" for answering for other ppl. You have no problem doing that shit right now.

Tchill13 · Post Post #892 (isolation #103) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:46 am

I'm done. Try to get some reads while waiting on Mohab and flippnips but no. Persivul wagon died before it even started. That shit looks terrible compared to how the chennisden wagon got pushed through. No telling what to think on Mohab or flippnips. I take full responsibility for being dumb enough to think the guy with a shitty night 1 claim wouldn't quickhammer. Yes it is MY FAULT I didn't know jibril was actively lurking without even posting.

Tchill13 · Post Post #893 (isolation #104) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:47 am

Somebody is full of shit here. Maybe the guy claiming he has no fucking weaknesses MY DEAR LORD.

Tchill13 · Post Post #898 (isolation #105) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:50 am

I mean this guy... Get a load of this guy. He doesn't know what to think. "OMG I'm so sorry" to "I'm fucking genius that has no weakness and ik all thoughts jibril possesses" wow bro... Wow. Almost as entertaining as robbvna. That dude is a riot.

Tchill13 · Post Post #900 (isolation #106) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:52 am

Enter has thought I was scum this whole day phase and we've seen 2 different sides of enters tone to achieve that assumption. That is all. I'd heavily look into persivul, Jibril and enter.

Peace out.

Tchill13 · Post Post #908 (isolation #107) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:58 am

You all claimed d1 for little to no reason and you're all on this shitty lynch.

If it's a bus one of you are definitely scum. If it flips town then AT LEAST someone has to be scum. No need for d1 claim and you're on the worst lynch I've ever seen.

Tchill13 · Post Post #909 (isolation #108) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:59 am

Now good day... I SAID GOOD DAY.

Tchill13 · Post Post #940 (isolation #109) » Fri Mar 08, 2019 1:13 pm

Lmao... "no weaknesses". No surprise he said that. The ego of fake gambit players here have never ceased to amaze me... Sheesh.

Tchill13 · Post Post #945 (isolation #110) » Fri Mar 08, 2019 1:20 pm

In post 942, Vedith wrote:Chilly \o/ are you town?

Yes sir. Missed you vedith. You made a statement that I used as a pillar of game play for a while... Then I forgot your name lol. Long time no see. Hope you've been well.

Tchill13 · Post Post #983 (isolation #111) » Fri Mar 08, 2019 4:13 pm

It's a shame we won't hear anything from jibril this whole day phase because her tongue has been cut out obviously...

Tchill13 · Post Post #984 (isolation #112) » Fri Mar 08, 2019 4:15 pm

Little odd that sad sheep seriously analyzed vedith's claim... Maybe sad sheep is just try hard town? Would that explain his slot a little better?

Tchill13 · Post Post #986 (isolation #113) » Fri Mar 08, 2019 4:19 pm

In post 979, Flavor Leaf wrote:Neighborizer and having people be in neighborhoods give PT cop’s false guilties.

Of course persivul outing d1 for little to no reason only benefitted enter. Enter was made aware of this of false guilty possibilities. Also makes me feel a little better because pers had no idea what enter actually was at the time of pers claim.

Dissapointed in nm and enter obviously. I won't make any more assumptions until jibril posts.

Tchill13 · Fri Mar 08, 2019 7:19 pm

Very little thought from you there jibril. Almost void of thought actually.

Tchill13 · Sat Mar 09, 2019 5:12 am

Yeah I'm actually surprised sad sheep wagon shot up instead of Slaxx. If it's only due to the fact SS said the word traitor... I think that's kinda weak.

Tchill13 · Sat Mar 09, 2019 5:17 am

PP is still the only player I actually feel good about being town. Other than Jibrils claim she isn't town... Do we have a way to even validate her claim yet? Because there's been no original thoughts from her this game as far as I can remember. The ONLY reason I've not reached paranoia with FL is because of so many claims d1. Vedith is gonna have to do a lot of work to clear up the Mohab slot.

Tchill13 · Sat Mar 09, 2019 5:55 am

I'll do a deep dive on Slaxx/SS soon. Please don't rush this lynch today because I have to work the next 2 days.

Tchill13 · Sat Mar 09, 2019 8:09 am

VOTE: Jibril

If this is a thing, I'd rather lynch jibril than shaxx or SS. because I believe there's way more reasons to believe jibril is scum than shaxx or SS. I'd still like to case those 2 though. Because they're the most I'm confused about atm.

Tchill13 · Sat Mar 09, 2019 8:13 am

Jibril needs to come up with some real thought first of all. Secondly... Can we confirm she's actually a JK. that's what I'm concerned with. I don't think we can. If we could I'd never vote her obviously. If I'm wrong please point that out.

Tchill13 · Sat Mar 09, 2019 10:27 am

Who do you think could be scum and why do you believe the others are town?

Tchill13 · Sat Mar 09, 2019 10:37 am

In post 1077, Tchill13 wrote:Who do you think could be scum and why do you believe the others are town?

@flippynips

Tchill13 · Sat Mar 09, 2019 1:24 pm

Basically in that plan FL would have to confirm seeing that for me to feel good about it. Seeing how I'm already weary of pers and jibril. All 3 of them can't be on a team I don't think. So that'd clear jibril for me.

Tchill13 · Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:54 am

Damn this game just died... What's the deal? I still haven't isoed SS compared to Slaxx but I do plan on it before this day phase.

I'm not sure why my TR of PP is questionable. I almost always take my stance of FL on d3. So I need to look into that as well. Ik I've put a lot of things off but there's no discussion going on and that worries me.

Tchill13 · Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:06 am

VOTE: vedith

Why don't you case yourself on why YOU'RE town silly vedith?

Tchill13 · Tue Mar 12, 2019 9:09 am

In post 1156, Slaxx wrote:Everyone has ignored my back and forth with SS but is suddenly very interested in the Vedith wagon and we think that’s a coincidence?

TChill said he still hasn’t ISO’d Me/SS but is happy to place a vote on an easy target (no offense Ved).

And SS has this long post about it being Pers and I, but Vedith starts Vedithing and now we can abandon that for a naked vote?

I was tumbling around in my head about the possibility of a TChill/SS team but with the back to back votes I don’t think that’s as likely.

I figured someone would point out I moved my vote without giving the cases. Not too surprised it was you. I also didn't want it sitting on jibril any longer.

Tchill13 · Tue Mar 12, 2019 9:11 am

Convenient you've been thinking about me and SS as scum together but decide not to tell anyone that until our votes on vedith lol.

Tchill13 · Tue Mar 12, 2019 11:14 am

Pushing easier lynches but refusing to push your lynch? That's your wording lol. OK bucko. Never said I knew, or even pushed, that you were probably scum.

Tchill13 · Tue Mar 12, 2019 11:14 am

Your easy lynch.

Tchill13 · Tue Mar 12, 2019 4:10 pm

I'll point this out and then I'll try to do some research before my next post...

Slaxx. It's not beneficial for me, as town or as scum, to turn this into a 1v1 (you've made it pretty obvious that'd happen if I push you) especially considering the lack of preparation I've done around your slot. If we are both town that will be ugly and will only help scum. If I'm town and you're scum I need a case strong enough to convince others before I push you in a way that only clogs the game. If I'm scum and you're town once again it'd be more beneficial to be prepared to push for an actual lynch that I'm fully prepared for opposed to just blindly trying to 1v1 you just to make noise. I'd fear that approach would be seen as a little more obv scum.

So I don't really understand the obsession with shade equals scum. It's given me some good reactions regarding your slot but I don't think it's accomplishing what you'd like it to on your end. Besides imo it doesn't even make much seems. Makes it seem like you're just determined to call me scum. If that's because you're scum well I'd like to believe I'd figure that out. If you're town I'd highly recommend making a better case on me opposed to just finger pointing. It's just causing noise the best I can tell.

Tchill13 · Tue Mar 12, 2019 6:23 pm

Jibril why am I scum? In your own words.

Tchill13 · Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:21 pm

To hammer or not to hammer... That is the question...

Tchill13 · Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:27 pm

This is pretty fun for me not gonna lie. I haven't posted in quite some time. What makes you think I haven't done it? Just because I haven't broken it down yet?

Tchill13 · Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:07 pm

Obligatory catch up tonight. Haven't tried hard enough in a game that includes FL PP and vedith.

Tchill13 · Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:28 pm

Fork you too... No I understand. Driving home rn. There will be effort.

Tchill13 · Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:08 pm

ok so i skimmed ss and slaxx iso's.. kinda daunting task to start off with that. im gonna start off with lynch comparisons.

Tchill13 · Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:09 pm

In post 604, northsidegal wrote:
A lynch has been achieved!

VC 1.Final

_{Alhambra, Granada, Spain}

votes
[7] Dr Worm
:
Flavor Leaf 557, PenguinPower 558, Tchill13 560, Enter 561, Not_Mafia 563, Persivul 584, Emperor flippyNips 587

[2] Persivul
:
Dr Worm 301, Sad Sheep 372

[1] Enter
:
Mohab500 52

[1] Jibril
:
chennisden 250

[1] Tchill13
:
Jibril 508

[1] Not Voting
:
Slaxx 412

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch

The Day 1 deadline is in
: (expired on 2019-03-08 13:43:59)

Mod Notes
:

In post 927, northsidegal wrote:
A lynch has been achieved!

VC 2.Final

_{Zaanse Schans, Amsterdam, Netherlands}

votes
[6] chennisden
:
Persivul 843, Sad Sheep 844, PenguinPower 848, Enter 849, Tchill13 859, Jibril 861

[5] Not Voting
:
Mohab500, chennisden, Emperor flippyNips, Flavor Leaf 794, Slaxx 847

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch

The Day 2 deadline is in
: (expired on 2019-03-16 18:49:59)

Mod Notes
:

Tchill13 · Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:14 pm

ppl on the scum lynch but off the town lynch: FL and Flippynips

ppl off the scum lynch but on the town lynch: Sad sheep and Jibril

ppl on both: Penguin, tchill, pers

ppl off both: Slaxx

this is a good starting point.

SS and Jibril already have some pretty damning info here. FL and Flippynipss look super town. PP and Pers dont get as much cred one way or the other. Slaxx on neither is... odd.

Tchill13 · Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:17 pm

im not really gonna be concerned with jibril. i feel like by midway through the next day phase we will feel certain about her alignment. especially considering her and pers are the last d1 claims and jk is obv more dangerous to scum than neighborizer.

Tchill13 · Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:18 pm

In post 1413, Tchill13 wrote:ppl on the scum lynch but off the town lynch: FL and Flippynips

ppl off the scum lynch but on the town lynch: Sad sheep and Jibril

ppl on both: Penguin, tchill, pers

ppl off both: Slaxx

this is a good starting point.

SS and Jibril already have some pretty damning info here. FL and Flippynipss look super town. PP and Pers dont get as much cred one way or the other. Slaxx on neither is... odd.

mohab (vedith) was also not on a single lynch.

Tchill13 · Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:20 pm

In post 301, Dr Worm wrote:PARSLYVILLE is MOST SCUM on JIBROL WAGON!!

EVERYBIDY ELSE on wagon TROWN in DR WORM"S HEART!! NOT EVERYBIDY!! PONGWIN NULL!!

VOTE: PARSLYVILLE

dr worm only voted pers. I'm not sure if thats more damning on relieving for pers. worm only has 30 posts and sadly i dont think there's much to read into on this player.

Tchill13 · Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:25 pm

so lets say I see the worm vote as possible distancing.

my pool is SS, slaxx, vedith, pers. (jib is jk and time is running out on that slot as either alignment)

the only real read i have to make here is PP. I've read him town for a majority of the game. So this day phase my town group is FL, PP and Flippynips (earlier what FL said about why flippy was town due to being wagoned and not even pointing in another direction or laying a vote dpwn is something i agreed with.)

Tchill13 · Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:29 pm

so i find it odd that for a small portion of this day phase it seemed like it was slaxx vs. SS right? SS refused to push me, PP or (???) simply ststaing the game would be over but im not sure SS pushed anyone hard after that.

i'll have to reread slaxx/SS interactions today and make sure that can't be SvS.

Tchill13 · Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:32 pm

In post 1359, Vedith wrote:
Pers

Slaxx

SS

Jibril

PP

FL

Chilly

Nips

Nips Scum makes FL Scum
Chilly Scum makes SS Scum

Game is sorted within the next 3 lynches.

also this is about as opposite as you can get if you prioritize the vote break downs. The only thing that makes this make any kind of sense is if you believe scum bussed d1. Then the question becomes did scum bus d1 and hop on the lynch d2? (me, pers, PP) or did scum bus and hop off the lynch d2? (FL, Emperor Flippynips)

I'd like vedith and vedith only to answer that one.

Tchill13 · Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:35 pm

i believe me and you both approached enter the same way. We both were suspicious of jibril at some point after their claim. We've been on both lynches together. Ik it's an easy out but... thought process. That and I like your town game. Ik how helpful it is.

that said i can't remember a scum game from you.

Tchill13 · Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:42 pm

In post 114, Sad Sheep wrote:VOTE: enter
the super vote hopping is alarming, i dont believe it comes from town
can go enter or pers
but i like wagons
even better, i like bigger wagons

In post 83, Tchill13 wrote:Somebody takes one vote off and 2 are immediately thrown on. Why didn't yall vote before flavor removed his?
i wasnt here to read what pers said yet

In post 93, PenguinPower wrote:Hi, non-voters.

Kindly do something.

Kthxbye.
sadly with the likes of sad sheep, chill (whose play is to survive past phase 1), nm, and jibril - we will have a slow game
I actually like a slower pace of a game with the other events happening in my life though

In post 168, Sad Sheep wrote:
In post 151, Dr Worm wrote:SADSHIP and CHUMBADEN are TROWN in MY HEART!!
why?
In post 167, Enter wrote:Really gonna be disappointed if I get lolhammered.

Really also hope the worm actually plays the game and doesn't ACTUALLY lolhammer
there are at least 2 players who quick hammer in here

In post 166, Enter wrote:The worm maybe should die
you say that, yet you've voted mohab

In post 254, Sad Sheep wrote:
In post 138, chennisden wrote:Enter gives me scumvibes,
chen what did you mean by this?

In post 160, chennisden wrote:UNVOTE: Dr. Worm

VOTE: Sadship

In post 161, chennisden wrote:UNVOTE: Sadship
this is still looking bizarre to me
In post 250, chennisden wrote:would not be surprised if both scum were on his (Enter's) wagon
and this feels like tmi

In post 844, Sad Sheep wrote:VOTE: chen

can also go slaax for the tmi of a mafia watcher/awkward defense of not policy lynching jib yet later not believing the jib claim/agenda setup of pers+me+mohab/accusing me of being a traitor during the setup spec

also the more i reviewed mohab ISO, the more it made me think "why would scum post like that? looked more like lost rookie than scum motivation"

In post 1032, Sad Sheep wrote:i mentioned that so we could be careful how to vote. games have been lost because people didnt know about one until post game. votes are dangerous. hell, I could be wrong but Im not about to sit back and not contribute what i can contribute.

also im town

VOTE: Slaax

here's some interesting interactions with ppl we know to be town and slaxx.

important to note that he does shade slaxx. he votes slaxx. then if you revisit his iso you'll notice he votes 3 different ppl towards the end and never goes back to slaxx. I dont remember SS stating he had a reason to TR slaxx at any point.

Tchill13 · Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:42 pm

In post 1425, PenguinPower wrote:Ok.

Nips now and we can lynch Sheep.

why do I TR nips?

Tchill13 · Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:47 pm

In post 703, Slaxx wrote:
In post 157, Persivul wrote:I guess WOTM wasn't in effect...

Wormie, are you like this at night too?

In post 41, Persivul wrote:
In post 14, chennisden wrote:Also, policy:

VOTE: Dr Worm
What's the policy?

In post 165, Persivul wrote:Oh my, that looks like a direct challenge to Wormie!

In post 363, Persivul wrote:VOTE: Mohab

In post 584, Persivul wrote:VOTE: Worm

That's L-1.

I'm not a fan of D1 claims, but in this game I think it makes sense for me to add mine, as it's far down the list of importance and I'm hoping not to get jailed so I can use it. I'm a town
neighborizer
. One person invited to hood each night, hood only open at night. At this point I'm planning on inviting Flavor, because I have a good town lean on him and as mentioned we recently won a game together as scum, and that game featured hoods. Seems fitting.
Pers did some early game distancing with Worm but never followed up on a vote until the L-1. Also, they targeted Jibril and Mohab which were some other low hanging lynches. No offense.

VOTE: Persivul

This is good.

this is a good posts from Slaxx. I skimmed the iso and noticed he had far more interactions with living players atm than dead ones.

While I completely understand slaxx push on me I fail to see why he didn't persue the Pers thing more. Slaxx comes off far better than SS off isos and Vote Counts. That's for sure.

Tchill13 · Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:49 pm

In post 1431, Vedith wrote:
In post 1423, Tchill13 wrote:Then the question becomes did scum bus d1 and hop on the lynch d2? (me, pers, PP) or did scum bus and hop off the lynch d2? (FL, Emperor Flippynips)
What?

if you really believe your rainbow list you believe more than likely scum bussed day 1. What do you scum did regarding the d2 lynch? do you think they were on it or off after bussing d1? and Why?

Tchill13 · Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:50 pm

@PP

idk what "Nips now" is referring to

Tchill13 · Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:53 pm

In post 1142, Vedith wrote:
In post 1139, PenguinPower wrote:Do something to change that.
See this is the part that I have no interest in!

I like Vedith's style for the most part but given where you replaced in and how little info we have on your slot if you're town i believe it's almost straight up detrimental. If you're scum you're just gonna coast on what you're doing atm.

Tchill13 · Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:55 pm

thats my point. You're slot was on neither lynch. You refuse to take any real stance. You're giving basic reads and you're not prodding anyone.

Tchill13 · Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:57 pm

I can't even justify looking into vedith atm. His whole iso is backwards compared to the Vote Counts. mentioned FL and flippy as the scum team... that'd be something lol. Highly unlikley.

Tchill13 · Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:03 pm

In post 767, Persivul wrote:
In post 703, Slaxx wrote:Pers did some early game distancing with Worm but never followed up on a vote until the L-1.
It's a troll account. What kind of interactions do you expect? I took it as a policy lynch, and I'm a known supporter of D1 PLs on unreadables unless there's an obv scum.

I would like to know what the majority of players still in the game think of this post. If you believe that worms only vote is to distance surely pers defending his vote on worm with "policy" is on the alarming side.

Slaxx did you ever point this out and run with it? I have a hard time belieivng you just missed it since pers and I seemed to be the only two major pushes you did.

Tchill13 · Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:05 pm

In post 1448, Vedith wrote:
In post 1446, PenguinPower wrote:I mean your predecessor had like...10 posts.

And you spent the majority of the front of this day being cryptic...

So.....
What's that got to do with me and day 1/2 lynch?

your reads don't look good when you analyze those wagons. You admitted you hadn't. Makes sense but is also lazy.

Tchill13 · Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:09 pm

I'm down with lynching SS. After I hear fomr Slaax.

also is there something I missed? been a while since I've done one of those "lot of posts" things...

Tchill13 · Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:14 pm

In post 1455, Vedith wrote:
In post 1452, Tchill13 wrote:your reads don't look good when you analyze those wagons. You admitted you hadn't. Makes sense but is also lazy.
Why would I care about the wagons?
I'm going by how people are playing.

Only Scum focus primarily on VCA.

Thats my favorite vedith attribute and your'e good at that but you don't balance it all. I think you can use other tools to strengthen your core case of "how ppl are playing" but you dont seem to be too interested.

You're quote that game i played with you very early was something like "scum only want to look like town and town should only try to lynch scum" of course scum can't do that last part and as someone brand new to the game that left a big impression on me. I still think balance is required though.

Tchill13 · Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:16 pm

In post 1458, Vedith wrote:You quoted the lynches and just rambled on about VCA.
That's just theories, not reads.

yeah its almost like i joined a game i had no interest in going back and reading what happened before i joined. crazy.

Tchill13 · Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:18 pm

town: FL, PP, Flippynips

lean scum: Vedith, Jibril, Pers, Slaxx

Scum: SS

thats my reads.

Tchill13 · Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:33 pm

I didn't know you hadn't read before I started posting. I realized you had to have not read midway through my breakdown when I seen your reads list.

I wasn't wanting you to discuss why Mohab didn't vote. I wanted you to realize that you're slot is almost empty when it comes to material for other players to make a decision on you.

Tchill13 · Sat Mar 16, 2019 7:03 am

Wow. I figured input would kind of pick up. Oh well.

Tchill13 · Sat Mar 16, 2019 5:42 pm

Why did we get so consumed with lynching so fast towards the end?

Tchill13 · Sat Mar 16, 2019 5:42 pm

In the since of not letting players provide reads.

Tchill13 · Sat Mar 16, 2019 7:46 pm

I'd like to think my family, friends and teachers that said I'd never amount to anything that motivated me to make it a full year on Mafiascum.net and not entirely lose my sanity.

Tchill13 · Tue Mar 19, 2019 4:11 pm

I'm gonna chill until jibril gives us info. Obviously I'd like to push jibril. Ive already pushed them before. So we'll see.

Tchill13 · Tue Mar 19, 2019 5:20 pm

And I'd personally prefer we start suggesting teams this day phase. Seeing how another mislynch puts us in lylo. I think that's a fair suggestion. I have an idea but I'm waiting for jibril.

Tchill13 · Wed Mar 20, 2019 4:13 am

So you think FL is town? For sure? You said you value FL town reads (as do I) but I have a reason to believe FL is town. I'm interested in yours.

Tchill13 · Wed Mar 20, 2019 4:24 am

In post 1498, Slaxx wrote:Happy cake day or whatever they call it here

TChill do you really think EmpFlips reads are going to change anything? I mean I really like that slot but I’m not sheeping it.

I think the only players I’d sheep are URAP2 and the Irish dude who used to come here and now he doesn’t

The hell was his name

Why do you like the empflips slot?

Tchill13 · Wed Mar 20, 2019 4:26 am

In post 1533, Persivul wrote:
In post 1530, Vedith wrote:If Chilly is Scum at least we know he distanced from his partner so there's that.
How about jibril/chill? Believable as scum theater?

I feel like this comes from a complete lack of activity on jibril. I'm the only player she's pushed. Which means I'm really the only player she's interacted with. Other than that there's no reason to believe in jibril/chill.

Tchill13 · Wed Mar 20, 2019 4:31 am

Which... Makes me scum? That's a little ridiculous. I don't remember jibril pushing me much at all until enter did. That's the only play I remember from jibril...

What's your thoughts on FL and flippnips?

Tchill13 · Wed Mar 20, 2019 4:36 am

And weren't you pushing me BEFORE jibril did? If you want to lynch jibril that's fine with me. I believe she's scum. I'm willing to battle it out the next day phase if you're just gonna use jibril to solidify your "push" on me.

Tchill13 · Wed Mar 20, 2019 5:01 am

OK. Sounds good. I actually agree with that it's a little more nuanced but same principle. Who's scum with jibril?

Tchill13 · Wed Mar 20, 2019 5:24 am

How much experience do you have with FL and WHY does flip look scummy?

Imo you can put vedith and flip in the same category based on activity.

Tchill13 · Wed Mar 20, 2019 5:28 am

Assuming 2 of the scum are Dr Worm and jibril... Those 2 players only have 2 players combined they even made an attempt at pushing. Me and persivul. Now why would scum that play so minimally go out of their way and make their only scum push a distance? It'd be much easier for someone who thinks that play style is beneficial to not mention their partner at all.

Tchill13 · Wed Mar 20, 2019 5:38 am

Basically if anybody scum reads FL I'd like to know who and why.

Tchill13 · Wed Mar 20, 2019 6:01 am

I can't remember. I'd say 70 percent of the time I play on this website he's in my game though. I'm sure I have at least once but I'm not gonna go through and link a game. I've actually never linked a previous game of mine or read a previous game of someone else's.

I'd rather not say why I tr him until someone decides they want to declare a SR on him.

Tchill13 · Wed Mar 20, 2019 6:03 am

I'd also like FL to tell me what he thinks of persivul based on neighborhood actions alone.

Tchill13 · Wed Mar 20, 2019 6:06 am

Well I'm obviously a big believer in the fact that the final scum won't be caught based off interactions with Dr. Worm and jibril. For obvious reasons.

Tchill13 · Wed Mar 20, 2019 6:10 am

Yeah I'm waiting for the SR's to start flying but it seems kinda hesitant atm.

Tchill13 · Wed Mar 20, 2019 6:13 am

I think we need to hear a lot from emp. Asap. That'll kind of wrap it up for me.

Tchill13 · Wed Mar 20, 2019 6:35 am

I'm not quite there yet. I'd like to hear from him. Gonna do one more VCA. then I should be good to go.

Tchill13 · Thu Mar 21, 2019 3:54 am

In post 1564, Flavor Leaf wrote:Aight, so Persivul invited Tchill to the neighborhood

Tchill, did you get access?

No I did not.

Tchill13 · Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:09 am

I'm pretty sure jib is scum here which is why my TR of flavor is so strong.

In no way shape or form do I believe a town FL lives this long but this is an exception due to all the claims d1. Then there's Jibrils play. If flavor has any access to jibril to "coach" them there's no way they play this way.

So to see FL start a Slaax/pers push worries me.

Why isn't jib scum FL? I think it's jib/(slaax/flip)

also why are we throwing votes down before hearing from flippynips?

Tchill13 · Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:14 am

If I believe jibril is town that opens the door to a FL scum game... Which honestly isn't something I've put too much thought into. I kinda just figured out a way to clear FL in my mind and it makes sense. Nobody seems to SR FL at all.

I'm pretty dang sure FL is town here.

Tchill13 · Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:12 pm

Turn makes no sense? Other than claiming jail keeper you have had absolutely zero impact on this game and enter gave more reads from you when he spoke for you than you've given us.

Tchill13 · Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:19 pm

Why did you quote your whole iso?

Tchill13 · Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:20 pm

I disagree with the town power argument. That's not why jibril is scum.

Tchill13 · Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:29 pm

Are you willing to bet the game on a Slaax tchill scum team jibril?

Tchill13 · Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:38 pm

We can talk about a hell of a lot of things. What about 2 ppl bringing up balance issues and jibril not pushing persivul at all? Want to talk about that?

Tchill13 · Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:39 pm

And the absolute silence of flippnips of course. Idc if he promised a catch up.

Tchill13 · Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:42 pm

In post 1563, Jibril wrote:Mr Werebeast

I do believe this is in reference to me. If I was jailed I don't think I can be targeted right?

Tchill13 · Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:42 pm

In post 1562, Vedith wrote:
In post 1561, Jibril wrote:I have no clue. I really thought Sheep was the Werebeast
Who did you jail?

In post 1563, Jibril wrote:Mr Werebeast

Tchill13 · Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:48 pm

Well then that doesn't make too much sense.

Tchill13 · Thu Mar 21, 2019 3:03 pm

This game is SO FREAKING DEAD for "winning time" (my favorite part of the game).

Tchill13 · Thu Mar 21, 2019 4:05 pm

No I mean the the fact that pers targets me and I get no access to it lol. I understand the premise.

Tchill13 · Fri Mar 22, 2019 3:38 am

Pers who's scum today?

Tchill13 · Fri Mar 22, 2019 4:15 am

If everyone is gonna throw flippy in a pool why aren't we advocating for his lynch instead of jibril?

Tchill13 · Fri Mar 22, 2019 4:34 am

Great catch up flippy

Tchill13 · Fri Mar 22, 2019 7:20 am

I would think if one of the PR's are town and one is scum. Then with all this setup speculation yall would be pushing for each other to be flipped. One town or scum flip makes a case for the other PR.

Tchill13 · Fri Mar 22, 2019 9:22 am

I'd much rather lynch jibril than you. A Neighborizer making it this far makes more sense than a claimed JK. so far 2 cop claims were killed instead of the Jk. Then someone that was just town read. Like FL said he thinks the PP kill is bad.

Now if I'm in the position that one of pers or jib is scum.

Jib as scum wouldn't nk pers. That incriminates jib because not only is he still alive but pers flips town.

Pers wouldn't kill jib for the same exact reason. So it makes sense that PP is the night kill. I don't think his push would have been received well.

Neither as scum would want the other to be lynched either until late as possible because the other flipping scum further incriminates them.

Makes sense that they aren't pushing each other because one of them is scum more than likely. Now the town one of them... I have no idea why they aren't pushing for the lynch of the other. Because then if the other flips scum it almost conf towns the town one.

Based on setup spec of course.