Mini Normal 2058 (Endgame)

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I'm already annoyed

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I call RC possible scum + refuse to sheep him on his read blindly -> RC says he had me as town as a gambit (?), it was a fake read and he thinks I'm scum

That's literally his ego, not something alignment indicative for me. If you don't think he'd do that as town you're lying to yourself

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RC: If he "knew" CoA and Morality were both town then it makes sense for him to change wagons late. If CoA dies anyways then he's off a "town" lynch, killed a strong player who hadn't really gotten going yet, and he can rage about people not following him onto Morality. If people followed onto Morailty then he gets a lynch on one of his biggest opponents and I think he has the confidence that it wouldn't come back to bite him. Either way he gets reactions like 2574. There's also a possibility that he somehow got tipped off to CoA being traitor in which case it makes even more sense to try for a shift onto Morality. He was a dominant force D1 and I frankly don't believe that town!RC would be so wrong about a game he was so heavily invested in. Maybe that's a dumb way to read him but I feel it. I'm also inclined to follow Creature's call.

You've put forward a hypothetical scenario as a case. I agree, if RC was doing that it would look pretty bad. Can you point to where you think he is doing that?

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It feels to me like you're taking stuff you know RC would do as town and trying to paint it as technically scummy

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RC: If he "knew" CoA and Morality were both town then it makes sense for him to change wagons late. If CoA dies anyways then he's off a "town" lynch, killed a strong player who hadn't really gotten going yet, and he can rage about people not following him onto Morality. If people followed onto Morailty then he gets a lynch on one of his biggest opponents and I think he has the confidence that it wouldn't come back to bite him. Either way he gets reactions like 2574. There's also a possibility that he somehow got tipped off to CoA being traitor in which case it makes even more sense to try for a shift onto Morality. He was a dominant force D1 and I frankly don't believe that town!RC would be so wrong about a game he was so heavily invested in. Maybe that's a dumb way to read him but I feel it. I'm also inclined to follow Creature's call.

You've put forward a hypothetical scenario as a case. I agree, if RC was doing that it would look pretty bad. Can you point to where you think he is doing that?

Is that not what happened end of day 1? He had lock-scum on CoA, unvoted because he was mad nobody was listening, then the wagon picked up, then he hard objected to lynching CoA, and then he went onto BnH and then Morality. I think that's the accurate path of his wagon shift

It's not what happened yesterday, no. This is your theory of what

could

have happened, I'm asking if you have anything to back up your point of view.

Anyone can make a paragraph about another player could be doing as scum - that's meaningless. What backs up your theory? Just the fact that he changed his vote?

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I touched on most of if not all of those points briefly when he was here, directly questioned him on some

That doesn't change anything

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I don't think it is productive for me to talk with you as I do not think you are going to not tunnel my slot

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OKAY.

I received no result on Morality last night.

VOTE: Morality

This is a lie, I’m not Ascetic, lol

Could also mean roleblocked

2795 is a scum claim, so yea, Morality is today's lynch. Who's the partner?

How is that a scum claim?


I'm seeing Something_Smart as town right now, I'll likely end up lynching Morality today

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There's no scum claim if anyone is scum here it's Smart.

He looks pretty town to me

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I still don't like lynching BnH here and would prefer

Vorkuta/Dunn/Smart

in that order.

Funny because I'm against all 3 of these lynches but was also thinking you're town

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VOTE: Tarkus

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fyi I'm against mass claim too

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idk what your problem is ankamius

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I don't know why you think I should be voting you Boats

SS, why are you so sure you weren't blocked by scum

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It's not shading your slot and I disagree it looks liek such

Don't put words in my mouth

I don't care what other people do

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Also, SS, Dunn clearly interfered, so you’re posturing now.

?

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Morality claims there are 4 scum alive: there's no scum dead, 9 players alive, and 3 wagons at 1 player each. It's 5 to lynch. You do the math.

VOTE: Morality

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If morality were telling the truth we'd be in lylo and nobody seems concerned that a bunch of people are voting

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Vote Count 3.3

YellowSnow(0)

Something_Smart

Shoshin

(0)

Dunnstral

RadiantCowbells

(0)

Aurathebirb

(0)

Morality

u r a person 2

(0)

Vorkuta(1)YellowSnow;

Boats n Hoes(1)

Aurathebirb

;

Ankamius

JohnnyEnglish

Vedith

Sniperlyfe77

(0)

Tarkus(1)Dunnstral;

No Lynch(0)

Not Voting(6)Vorkuta;Tarkus;Morality;JohnnyEnglish;Boats n Hoes;Something_Smart;

With 9 alive it is 5 to lynch.

Day 3 will end in (expired on 2019-03-10 05:00:00) or when a lynch has been achieved.

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There's... 4 scum?

Yes, now get off of me. I was going to wait until it was lylo because I expected scum to make some kind of play and I’d come out catching them that way.

I lied about the Loyal modifier thing.

There's 9 players alive

You claim there's 4 scum

What are you talking about? Perspective slip

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nvm, 1 mafia is dead I guess

That's what I was on about

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Anybody townreading ankamius?

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Just noticed you're the 4th person to replace into your slot - typically scum indicative

Can somebody explain to me why aurathebirb is green in the vote count?

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To be fair only Johnny english had a scum replace out, vedith's was nai, first person never confirmed or something

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Yes

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Tarkus looking like scum

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Ok

Do you still think morality is scum

And yes

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I don't know, maybe you should ask ss/Vorkuta

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Yellowsnow is town yes

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VOTE: Ankamius

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VOTE: Tarkus

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Also can you get back to me as to why your slot is 1000% sure snow is town?

no

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we have no hope of getting a good lynch today

I'm not voting vorkuta

get on tarkus if you want a good lynch

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VOTE: Dunn

What kind of a vote is this?

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I don't know how much that would really help right now. Unless anyone claims to have interfered, we lynch Morality, and then maybe I will do some reading after seeing his flip.

VOTE: Morality

VOTE: Dunn

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Morality is probably scum for not hammering there

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Ankamius is either scum or I'm seeing more of her awful play

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either way I'll be glad to be out of this one

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Also can you get back to me as to why your slot is 1000% sure snow is town?

no

it's called having reads

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And this flailing against votes that are being put on you is hilariously bad when you could've put this effort in when all these same slots posted support for a deadline lynch on you

So if you happen to be town this game, that's really on you

Please point to where Something_Smart indicated they'd be fine with a deadline lynch on me, and where I could have interjected

I'll be waiting

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As for Tarkus, I've been pushing him, so you're wrong again

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And this flailing against votes that are being put on you is hilariously bad when you could've put this effort in when all these same slots posted support for a deadline lynch on you

So if you happen to be town this game, that's really on you

Like analyze this line for a second

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I’ve been staying Vorkuta is scum for yesterday, and your counterwagon comes up and I’m probably scum for not hammering it.

On top of that, scum you wouldn’t want to aggravate me there.

So why should I have hammered you there?

It looked like you were pushing that I was scum but disappeared at deadline, not wanting to hammer me

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something smart just outted themself with that vote on me in my eyes

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VOTE: Something_Smart


In case anybody shows up

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I'm pretty sure I played my imaginary PR better than most people played their real one...

You naked voted me after I voted with you