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[schadd_]

hi

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VOTE: gamma emerald

[schadd_]

id vote you back but i wanna wait a little while to make sure im right

[schadd_]

idk maybe penguin is town

[schadd_]

whos excited to PLAY! SOME! MAFIA!

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maybe luckyotter is a wolf :0

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maybe mjl is a wolf :0

[schadd_]

depends

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Nobody:
schadd_: I think X is scum

they literally both followed a person saying something

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VOTE: luckyotter

[schadd_]

fine

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i think im gonna assume u r a wolf unless like 5 people tr you today

[schadd_]

are u krazy

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Please explain your model for using other town reads to reach your own town reads so that we may incorporate it into our algorithms or our content moderation team will be dispatched to ensure compliance with Facebook rules.

uh i havent been using other town reads

Sure am! Especially with the higher ups of MafiaScum, if I'm correct

Will you sheep me because I have a green name?

^_^

[schadd_]

oh the luckyotter thing

idk i kind of feel like hes an easy read so unless other people townread him i think hes probably a wolf

[schadd_]

maybe mjl is town bc it looks like this sort of thing is just what she does

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There has been 3 consecutive lynches on Schadd. I know that was during RVS (and we probably still are) but might just have been as a context to execute a scum plan without town questioning it.

this might be valuable for you: i think this is almost certainly not what happened but i don't think you are scum for suggesting it

[schadd_]

i wanna say detective pikachu is pink ball

[schadd_]

schadd, why do you still think lucky is a good vote?

was my mind supposed to be changed by something

[schadd_]

220 ?

she has habits that seem wolfy in isolation but she's doing them a lot which makes me think she just does those things in general

[schadd_]

think cdb might b town

hi psyche : ) how do you feel about playing non-town

oh the luckyotter thing

idk i kind of feel like hes an easy read so unless other people townread him i think hes probably a wolf

Is this based on anything substantial or just a gut feeling?

i guess mostly gut + a few secret things maybe

[schadd_]

{penguin}
{cdb}
{psyche, redemption}
{mjl, nm}
{vorkuta, gamma, luv}
{lucky otter, detective pikachu, performer}

[schadd_]

pengy do you ever try to play around meta as scum

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Secondly, Why are vork or pika so far in? Also, disagree with the lucky otter read.

vork is at null

pika is a goofy meta read based on assuming hes pink ball + other stuff

see 225

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schadd do you mean that the second to last tier is null and you have several layers of townreads above it?

yes

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Yeah...after reading his Newbie game I'm fine throwing Redemption in my townpool.

mod abuse

also i trust u

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gamma is in prod range

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i wanna make a rule that the only roleplay alts allowed are cardi b (which i did and everyone liked) and torgonitoh

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VOTE: detective pikachu

[schadd_]

you better think im town big boy

[schadd_]

was he town

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hi psyche : ) how do you feel about playing non-town

[schadd_]

god is real

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do u wanna vote detective pikachu with me i think the gamma vote you quoted was wolfy

[schadd_]

{peng redemp}
{psyche}
{cdb}
{nm}
{vorq mjl gamma}
{uzi otter perfo}
{Detective Pikachu}

[schadd_]

ugh

{peng redemp psyche}
[...]

[schadd_]

i didnt but it was also towny

i thot [post]487 was tunnely in a town sort of way[/post]

also who said anything about conftown??? ???

[schadd_]

so like would you not object to penguin / redemption being conftown

[schadd_]

oh nevermind seems not lol

{peng redemp}
{psyche}
{cdb}
{vorq}
{nm}
{mjl gamma}
{uzi otter perfo}
{Detective Pikachu}

[schadd_]

town always seems default to just lynching a lurky and/or dumb guy on d1; it's such a waste of early energy

there's a difference between somebody struggling to get into the game and somebody lowposting because they're underperforming

dp doesnt give me the sense that its the former - he was like "feels like the game is stalling" but while he was around he was commenting on a few things

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feels like yall are treating 20 pages of content like the backend of rvs
it's crazy and for at least one of you who should know better (PP) i think it's deliberate

could you lodge complaints at specific people? the only person you're really engaging with is pp who you've decided is dishonest

i don't really see this criticism at all and if i did i dont see how it's actionable for anyone

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could you lodge complaints at specific people? the only person you're really engaging with is pp who you've decided is dishonest

i don't really see this criticism at all and if i did i dont see how it's actionable for anyone

this DP wagon, this GE wagon

what are things that people on those wagons should do

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could you lodge complaints at specific people? the only person you're really engaging with is pp who you've decided is dishonest

i don't really see this criticism at all and if i did i dont see how it's actionable for anyone

this DP wagon, this GE wagon

what are things that people on those wagons should do

focus your attention and analysis on people who are playing the game

who that is currently voting dp (which seems to be prompting this thought) isn't doing that

i am

performer's post where he votes pikachu is trying to sort someone else as well

ditto cdb

penguin you think is scum, and is also engaging with present people

[schadd_]

ok i will wagon my townread with you and ignore the person i currently think is the most likely red flip and then go fuck myself

[schadd_]

how do you feel about cdb

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(yes the gotcha is that he has the same amt of posts as the two people you're complaining about wagons)

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i wanna be more fun

i think youre very subject to the same criticisms you're making except replace "inactives" with "an active guy that youd expect to use a different strategy"

for some reason i keep wanting to describe it as "sabre rattling" even though that means something specific and different

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he's played as town recently and can just. remember what its like to play with spammy people. like he was in team mafia for example. no hes not inimitably town, whoa there.

anyway i can go on with you about which sabre to rattle and all that but i don't see the merit

[schadd_]

you should address the other things extended to you

[schadd_]

interaction with vorkuta 130 / 132 seemed solvey

"Really?" in 259 feels like something someone wouldnt include in the post as scum

i had the same assessment as 544 that he seems like he would try to exert more control as scum. possible exception if his team is doing well right now, but then in that case dp is probably a mislynch and why would he vote there (it was a vanity wagon at the time but i think i and maybe other people were scumreading him by then)

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maryjolisa i hate to be the one to tell you this but you got bugs in your brain. just all sorts of little critters up in there

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VOTE: schadd

YES

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im not really closed off to working with u

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i think there's a 50%ish chance you flip red and you absolutely have the choice whether you scumread me because of the meme lmao

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i think the only person that was like "hmm gotta lynch dp now bc of schadds hilarious meme" was vorkuta and even if you're forced into trying to lynch me you're still cordially invited to try to form other reads

if your catchup looks wolfy to me (slightly though not that much) it's because you went through the motions of assessing other slots than me without really coming to conclusions (lucky otter is "maybe townie", "big oof" at redemption, annoyed with cdb

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blugh UNVOTE:

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i think there's a 50%ish chance you flip red and you absolutely have the choice whether you scumread me because of the meme lmao

How "50%?"

what do you mean

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VOTE: performer

[schadd_]

for the record im not really swayed by dps posting just now (nor am i thinking that hard about it beyond trying to respond bc i dont evaluate this sort of situation well in the moment) but i think its good practice to not lynch PRs of strength greater than or equal to, say, a universal backup

[schadd_]

i usually like leaving people in the dark but i dont feel it here

Spoiler:

{peng redemp}
{psyche}
{cdb}
{nm}
{vorq mjl gamma}
{uzi otter perfo}
{Detective Pikachu}

ugh

{peng redemp psyche}
[...]

oh nevermind seems not lol

{peng redemp}
{psyche}
{cdb}
{vorq}
{nm}
{mjl gamma}
{uzi otter perfo}
{Detective Pikachu}

I don't really get why there was the need to post this twice... there would have been no reason to make a new list just because you were changing your placement of psyche if he wasn't moving more than one tier. Seems like ... not exactly busywork, but I don't see why you felt the need to do this as town. If it was just because Vork was below NM, why was Vork still below NM in 488?

the first one was just a list

the second one was psyche being moved into the top tier. the "at least two tiers" thing doesnt make sense to me, it was like i said "psyche seems town from a recent exchange" but i had been thinking in terms of tiers

the third one was vorkuta being moved to a higher tr

Like, if I totally bought schadd thought I was scum and should be lynched, I might think the meme would be fine. But so far most of what I have seen is that he didn't like my Gamma vote, which is fine but not enough to spend an hour making a meme over, and that he thinks I'm pink ball, which is... not even something I want to respond to. If I am pink ball, I didn't want to be mainhunted, and if I'm not pink ball, I don't want to get into that argument and make it easier to main hunt me. So his argument against me is boring for me to respond to, which makes me feel like he doesn't believe it. So making a meme for 501 is kinda gross given that his reasons just aren't that good and literally everyone patting him on the back for it kinda has me trying to decide whether he's obnoxious town that scum are trying to goad on and buddy by calling funny to get a mislynch on me or if he's just scum.

I'm leaning 'just scum' though. I think he was faking the reaction to vorkuta in pretending like he was going to rewrite his whole reads list and his push on me while I had stuff come up is opportunistic af.

you hadnt given indication that anything had come up

i was thinking of hedging after i made the meme but didnt because wagoning is fine. i mostly, like, just wanted to make the meme lol (and liked the idea of psyche voting w me on something :) )

your iso was kind of short and didn't have anything that seemed reachy or out of place which i think is generally a scum trait (and additionally a trait of pink ball in a recent scum game i recall) - sort of the "underperforming" thing i mentioned to psyche

"So his argument against me is boring for me to respond to, which makes me feel like he doesn't believe it" what

VOTE: schadd

YES

This is more of what I'm talking about. the confidence level here seems fake.

And this is what I mean with the meme too. It's day 1 and I had a busy week so apparently that means his scumread on me is so strong that he's going to abandon the hope of working with the person you're focusing on?

Like I have made shitposty memes as part of pushes before... On like day 4 when I have total confidence th slot is scum. I wouldn't make one to get a read on a player because if I was wrong then the player is probably going to lose objectivity. I don't feel objective about schadd because right now I more feel while he is still alive in the game I don't really want to do anything other than lynch him. This is what it means to do a bad faith push and that's why I don't think town does aggressive tunnely memes like that day 1. I don't feel like he actually is thinking about my slot, he is thinking about how he looks pushing my slot.

i love confrontation + for a moment you looked like generic scum doubling down to me which would be super great as id just have to win the 1v1 for today which is ez

i'm pretty sure ive seen tunnel memes at least day 2 (i've done it before on day 2!! a while ago at least)

i should say (and this is definitely more than a little bit pedantic) the meme specifically says "what if ... detective pikachu flips scum" and not "detective pikachu is going to flip scum" - like i defitinitely wanted to wagon you but i also wanted you to flip scum (which would be v fun especially if psyche was voting w me :) :) :) ) more than i was sure of you flipping scum which i'm like 90% sure is a d1 thought i've had before

I mean I don't think you make that meme if you don't want me to tunnel you because right now seeing people pat you on the back for that post has me thinking I either lynch you or get lynched so I don't have to play with you and deal with this town. I'm hoping you're just scum and if you're not I don't really see why I should care rn

this is the thing that kind of makes me think youre town because i think's its kind of out there to say that i, like, forced you to 1v1 me

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if dp inherited a 1-shot motion detector or something id probably just lynch him but for now i think its time to voteprod another lurker

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dp i kind of don't see why you unvoted me

[schadd_]

if dp inherited a 1-shot motion detector or something id probably just lynch him

now i suddenly understand what everyone means when they say "x slot needs to be lynched before lylo"

[schadd_]

Danny Devito (1):

Not_Mafia

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Liol Uzi Very:

have you had any trouble getting into the game? have you had any reads you would describe as confident?

Per the Former:

are you worried you'll get lynched / run up at some point this game?

channel DELIBIRD:

are psyche and i and i think some other people right to be townreading you here?

[schadd_]

thanks

[schadd_]

he claimed miller, are you a miller

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wig

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5 bumps are unnecessary

VOTE: Detective Pikachu

do u have any thoughts about the universal backup claim.

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cdb & performer r in prod range

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i hate to do that but i want. cdb and performer to be prodded lol

[schadd_]

Maybe catch up before seriously responding then.

I seriously respond when I read

it's just that I process information that I'm not really involved in poorly

is there a moment where you realized you might be making a mistake

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maybe

, would you like to share with the class

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VOTE: chenny

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if chenny is caught scum psyche gets all the credit : )

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do you not understand what my question is

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you sounded pretty confident that penguinpower and redemption were scum, but then turned around to say your early replacement reads shouldn't be valued

is there a moment in particular you started to think "hmm wait maybe i'm misreading this"?

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is there anything you can point to that caused this reassessment

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itd be super great if you could give more than two words of your thought process

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vorkuta can u talk about why chenny looked (looks?) scum

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is there any way u feel different about mafia since your hiatus

idk if youve finished any games since then so if this is hard to answer thats fine

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dp i kind of don't see why you unvoted me

[schadd_]

does 680 make you feel

nothing

??

detexter pikachu??

im worried you're trying to keep me an unresolved 1v1 : (

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vanity voting me with the assumption i won't vote you back (as scum)

since like it would provide an explanation for you surviving nights and give you something to do (like you would be able to avoid other critical wagons and not get criticized for it bc you're trying to wagon me)

i should say i dont really expect to be lynched

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i spent like 10 posts explaining my thought process to you

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ok maybe just like 3 or 4

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"I made a bunch of posts, you should have reevaluated me"

when i said i explained my thought process that was counter to the idea that i'm goading you

i guess i would have expected you to make something of 680 since if i recall your initial sr on me was that you didn't think there was any substance to my wagon / meme thing (paraphrasing) and 680 pulls counter to that

"I don't see why you unvoted me"

i didn't at the time (i assume you wanted to take a step back? but id like to know what the moment was)

"why aren't you voting me, I like conflict"

i liked the idea of you being scum and 1v1ing me, and later explained this one off thought that i had

"I just made a bunch of posts explaining my thought process"

i did

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Per the Former:

are you worried you'll get lynched / run up at some point this game?

[schadd_]

Most other people who've been wagoned feel like lynchbait
I want to poke around here
VOTE: Schadd

pedit
ikr- honestly tempted to L-1/hammer as I previously said as I don't buy the UB claim and that's probably the way it's going to go but *shrugs*

i'm interested as to what you think you would get out of me

The more we can start getting a clearer sense of where everyone is, the better.

{Vorkuta}
{Penguin, Psyche}
{Schadd, NM, Performer, chenn}
{Pikachu, Redemption}
{MJL, LUV}

id do LUV

ooh maybe i should sic modbot on this thread

you should vote dudie

[schadd_]

VOTE: detective p

i think this is the most likely wolf flip

[schadd_]

i pinky promise im town

PP is trying to cooperate with his townread instead of suddenly scumreading them in those quotes, that feels town indicative

as much as i'd like to be i'm not sold on chenny scum right now

it felt like caught scum at the time but from what i remember that sort of viscous difficulty in pulling information out of people has generally come from town (with one critical exception in demonlord from a newbie game a while back but i kind of think that person on MS to play mafia anyway) - if he's scum he can make the obvious read on me that i'm trying to get some explanation out of him and give it whereas as town he can want to, like, do more to catch up on the game, be dubious of my questioning, etc

plus the two quoted posts felt town - 792 is such a small thing for like 12 hrs of buildup and he could have just chosen to post more since he had gotten away with it in the short term, if that makes sense

its not really enough for me to resist the wagon. im interested in what penguins thoughts are (or if he uh said them already and i forgot)

are you kidding

i'm not

who are you going with dude we have 2 days

[schadd_]

kind of baffled by cdb seeming to just flake

[schadd_]

it's so annoying
yall acted like 8 days was forever and now you're rushing because of 2

come on dude

[schadd_]

i think i've always had my vote on what i thought was the best wagon

dp was slightly a sorting wagon but i did think they were the most likely scum flip when i was voting them though not by a whole lot

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kind of baffled by cdb seeming to just flake

don't know why
super clear from his early posts that he's regretted his decision to queue in

he just like really strikes me as the sort to send a clarifying PM but i think in the new rule era its bad to speculate on replacements so uh here i am not doing that

[schadd_]

absolutely no one is going to get on board with that wagon

vork is voting me

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@chenny did you have the thought that performer is scum in advance of dp bringing it up

Who reviewed the setup and where are you seeing that? I don't see it in the first post.

Radiantcowbells & mastina.

Can you please show me where it says these two people reviewed this game? Link me.

its not public i think - there's a hidden subforum where normal reviews are sorted out and performer saw mastina + rc opt to review this game

[schadd_]

i can also verify the reviewers

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i dont think either of them would push against UB but i wouldnt expect either to suggest it

[schadd_]

id still be into flashwagoning uzi

[schadd_]

but MJL and DP town

can you make the case for yourself having good reads

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psyche did u have good reads back in the day

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also how did i know you would continue to not be voting as we approach 24 hr

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oh right wig

[schadd_]

id still be into flashwagoning uzi

What about Sugondese?

what's a wagon

schadd_ you’ve seen me as scum. Why the paranoia?

arent you like kinda good at it

i didnt catch you in the game you wolfed against me

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the idea of having to sort chenny more thoroughly makes me wanna go into a medically induced coma

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VOTE: Chennisden

Sorry, buddy.

You had Chenn as town.

Care to explain?

this is an interesting question

[schadd_]

:

0

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Anyway, would anyone potentially want to flashwagon Lil Uzi Vert?

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1286 isnt the most delightful post ive read

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im willing to lock nnn town - as scum she's taking a consensus town slot and using the capital to ... powerwolf a lynch through on lhf (or a partner), which seems like an obvious thing to not do & seems like something she in particular wouldnt do. exception if shed be deflecting from performer maybe, but itd still be cleverer to push somebody other than chenny i think

yes psyche i dont care that you did that already based on one Really Cool and Unfakeable post. give me $300.

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Pika is not a UB

do you have an alignment read

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i know that i've made a joke about noam chomsky making a burger joint called chompskys but i don't think that was on this website

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gibberish is probably chenny

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i know that i've made a joke about noam chomsky making a burger joint called chompskys but i don't think that was on this website

???????

trying to decode the read list

[schadd_]

oh duh thats nomnomnom

[schadd_]

the answer my friend

is blowing in the wind

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gibberish -> chenny
danny devito -> dp
tingting -> vorkuta (avatar)
petrock -> lucky otter (otters have pet rocks)
bon jovi -> uzi (a musician)
satanist -> me (weird mouth???)
seven circles -> redemption (avatar looks like a hell guy) (also being the subject of 1286 is the seventh circle)
tortured soul -> psyche (you'd think so reading this game)
pinguflamethrower -> penguin
easty -> mjl (avatar facing east + wanted to flashwagon her early which makes sense i guess)
epicar -> performer (poe. no idea)

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fuck you i dont even have a switch anyway

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its felt for a while like the only evidence that dp's posts are real thoughts that hes having in the moment are the confident / authoritative way he presents them

like its been boilerplate "i think this is fake. theres no reason u would think that. this is opportunistic." punctuated by "die scum fucka you everybody explain to me why theyre not voting this slot RIGHT now."

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nom do you think you have good reads (in general not this game)

[schadd_]

rather deep cut but hes the guy from the "my three girlfriends and yes they smoke weed" thing

[schadd_]

rather deep cut but hes the guy from the "my three girlfriends and yes they smoke weed" thing

what does this mean?

long

[schadd_]

I actually keep thinking I might be wrong on you, but posts like this don't make that any easier.

[schadd_]

wig

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if it was a feeling that would be better described in words i wouldnt have used a picture

its like you said "if you scumread me less often or in less detail then maybe.... i can tr you" and what do i do with that lmao

[schadd_]

I'm saying that the more I realize that your whole persona is basically being a pretentious and gnomic the easier it is for me to imagine you doing your weird fucking image push on me in early game. I don't think you/nomnom/Performer makes sense, I think right now I actually like the nomnom/Performer interactions a lot more for scum. I feel like your interactions with N_M last night were.... very slightly townie. But with my slot, it feels like you decided to push, backed off when I pushed back which was... idk. And then came back to me when no other wagons were going off. So yeah I think the way you approach my slot is pretty much the only reason I'm not townreading you rn.

i backed off when you showed up and started extending yourself. what is alignment indicative abt trying to guess nicknames

Like if you're town I feel like you're approaching my slot more like you want an easy lynch rather than you really have a lot of conviction in your read one way or the other, but you also seem to like being hard to understand almost as much as N_M does

lynching through a ub claim is easy ?

i dont tend to have conviction in scumreads

[schadd_]

Oh yeah, and also scumreading me for taking the night to think about your slot was gross

what where are you getting that

[schadd_]

this is the second time ive felt a sudden and strong urge to fuck off from the thread and go write an album review while trying to sort dp...lmao

[schadd_]

the only person whos yet to post in more than a day is chenny

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oh wig you did something again that you did in 659, "I had a busy week so apparently that means his scumread on me is so strong[...]"

i didnt have any reason to believe that you had taken a night off from sorting me (as opposed to like, ignoring / not reacting to the post) & i didnt have any knowledge that youd had a busy week when i made the meme post but you phrased as though i knew both of those things and actively srd you for them

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I mean I unvoted you, I don't think I do that unless I am thinking about something.

I don't know how you got from "DP unvoted" to "DP is trying to keep me in an unresolved 1v1"

You were acting like when I unvoted I was certain I wasn't just going to vote you again the next day... there's no reason for you to assume anything at all about how I feel about your slot so I don't know why you jumped to the conclusion that I was keeping you "unresolved"

if you mean you as a person unvote like that ......... i don't know who your main is, i don't think pink ball is NRG (ss sounded like a good guess from someone). if you mean someone generally unvotes like that.... i disagree, for instance the "i dont think lynching you is a good short term idea but idk who else to do right now" one i did after your ub claim

dp unvoted + seemed to still be sold that i'm scum without engaging with me ("pichu is probably town given that it's schadd leading the wagon" 823 sounded like it came from the assumption i'm scum). im not making assumptions about why you as town would unvote there, in fact i said as much & the unresolved wagon thing was specifically a scum tactic i thought you were using

[schadd_]

Ok

[schadd_]

im not sold on vorkuta town but i don't see people voting him

[schadd_]

thinking out loud.

still kinda think we found love right where we are

[schadd_]

it's a really bad joke that asks you to follow pop music from the anglosphere, and will ironically make detective pikachu more difficult to lynch as not_mafia moves his vote onto Me

[schadd_]

: )

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: )

Answer my question.

? which post

[schadd_]

unwilling

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id do performer if nothing else was happening but i dont particularly think he flips scum

id hammer chenny at like the last second obviously

[schadd_]

uhhh a little bit less town ig

[schadd_]

id do performer if nothing else was happening but i dont particularly think he flips scum

id hammer chenny at like the last second obviously

You literally moderated me both alignments. :shifty:

itd be great if it worked like that id be like the top town player

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do mods even read the games they mod

i read the good ones

[schadd_]

wig

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if this flips red i kind of like vorkuta & uzi for the partners ...

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worry abt hammering from mjl seems real. performer would be a kind of obvious town spew i guess

im probably getting shot i think it's kind of obvious im a role pensive emoji

What is wig? Like wigging out?

its like, wig

[schadd_]

WTF does "spew" mean?

a mafia person revealing somebody to be probably town by pushing them or whatever

[schadd_]

Or I was
-out
-reaction testing to see whether anyone would abandon ship and try to save their scum buddy

Also as the first person to doubt the ub claim.... no

super willing to take credit for a flip that hasnt happened yet

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wig

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town spew in the event detective pikachu flips scum, which he might not

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i like that performer, schadd, and psyche are willing to approach my slot in good faith

itd be cool if you approached other slots in like any kind of faith

PenguinPower said there's like a 1.4% chance of a UB being in the game.

keep in mind this doesn't map to a 1.4% chance of dp being town - you'd have to come up with an estimate for how often he would claim it as scum (say, 2%) and conclude that the probability it comes from scum is (2%) / (2% + 1.4%) = 60% ish. like 2-shot fruit vendor has never occurred in a normal game but you wouldn't just lynch the slot automatically if somebody claimed it

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what

also underscore lol

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oh i guess

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also can we not paint targets on people's backs either directly or indirectly...especially if they turn out to be prs

I really hate twilight...and this is a substantial one.

its just a book dude

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i dont want it to close :)

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honestly this is one of the games where hes seemed the most town

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Anyone want to claim fruit or to have been visited for shits and giggles?

*ahem*
VOTE: schadd

Him getting off the pichu wagon immediately after his UB claim is suspicious
Him not 100% supporting it the second time he was wagonned is also sus

unvoting a PR claim and then Only voting him at the end of the day. yeah, sorry i didn't do better. i believe you'll find my reasons pretty extensively detailed

Um...compulsive multitasking town role and you think Vig over PGO why?

pgo is not a normal role

VOTE: LUV
559, 898, 1150/1 gave me the impression of s/s with pikachu

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{psyche}
{penguinpower}
{not_mafia, redemption, nomnomnom}
{performer, chennisden, maryjolisa}

{luckyotter}

{vorkuta}
{luv}

list i made during the night

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oh also:

Will the vig please claim so they can feel bad about themselves (itsk you can claim 1-shot), but at least we have a conf!town

do not do this

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Anyone want to claim fruit or to have been visited for shits and giggles?

*ahem*
VOTE: schadd

Him getting off the pichu wagon immediately after his UB claim is suspicious
Him not 100% supporting it the second time he was wagonned is also sus

unvoting a PR claim and then Only voting him at the end of the day. yeah, sorry i didn't do better. i believe you'll find my reasons pretty extensively detailed

Um...compulsive multitasking town role and you think Vig over PGO why?

Spoiler:

pgo is not a normal role

VOTE: LUV
559, 898, 1150/1 gave me the impression of s/s with pikachu

post 1745 premium edition

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if they're a full vig they are a role that can continue to do stuff and probably shouldnt claim

if they're 1 or 2 shot they can still delay getting killed as late as possible in the way that e.g. a mason does

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It would help greatly with VCA purposes and wagon associations.
I'll take a conf!town after 2 dead PRs today please and thank you

Seriously just claim 1-shot and say you're useless now
We won't blame you (too much)

i'm like super present in thread and i seem to be your top scumread which isn't really shared by anyone else (that i remember) - if i were scum (and you were town) it seems like you'd have a bit of an uphill battle. is there a reason you almost haven't engaged me in a sorting fashion at all

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there's a single role dead. chenn's role isn't anything

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@uzi: sorry if u got wolf in this game & skygazers game at the same time

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is there a reason you almost haven't engaged me in a sorting fashion at all

shhh I'll save the best for later
Just know I'll have my eyes on you

not crumbing shit here

chenn's role isn't anything

inb4 during endgame the mods chime in and are like "oh we designed chenn's role to be functionally equivalent to blah blah blah"

I disagree- it also implies a tracker/follower/voyeur type soft-investigative so there's that.

you can feel free to ask me anything about my wagons yesterday

yes it does imply tracking/etc. it is negative utility for that, because multitasking roles are scum more obviously than town

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: (

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hi buddy

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you can feel free to ask me anything about my wagons yesterday

What wagons
You were Pika -> unvote -> Performer naked vote -> Pichu -> Pika

and upon rereading your ISO I can make a pretty damn good case that Pika wanted to make some SvS theater & tried to distance you via "bussing"

i meant how you apparently think my votes yesterday were suspicious

he also did a great job of that with nomnomnom! and also um he tried to get me to stop voting him a couple times i think. feel free to make the case

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guys who's, like, left in your POEs

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umm umm

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unless you're just gonna be like "lmao i was rxn testing u" i'd like to see what the case of me s/s with pikachu was so that i know you're not just sabre rattling (the actual correct meaning this time)

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^@ vorkuta of course

guys who's, like, left in your POEs

I mean - who is this addressed to? Lots of people haven't even checked in yet.

you - ig you might be holstering some hot takes. uzi. psyche as always

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i promise that im trying to sort and not just masterfully manipulating a scenario where i get to use the term sabre rattling aptly

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yeah u dont have to elaborate

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thanks

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i guess, did you not make anything of him doing essentially the same thing to nomnomnom

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as proof of concept: 1939 made me think of a sort of obvious bus from a while ago

Bye Eddie. Die scum die.

though i doubted that it would be a bus circumstantially

i guess, did you not make anything of him doing essentially the same thing to nomnomnom

The distinction between nom x3 (is that she flipped town lolololol) is the precarious position DP was in when he decided to pick a fight.
It was heated and emotional (GODDAMIT NOMx3) as opposed to the one with you which felt more (lawl let me meme my way to victory with my buddy schadd)

Also nom was a replacement so there's that- this interaction was prevalent in the.... last third of D1 as opposed to his love for you which was there throughout all of D1.

i guess i don't see the distinction - i think dp's thing with me was also pretty explicitly emotional in e.g. 1460. also he was definitely also very much being wagoned when he pushed me the first time . . .

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VOTE: LUV
559, 898, 1150/1 gave me the impression of s/s with pikachu

Can you explain why these posts look like S/S with DP?

559 is kind of a vanity wagon (gamma emerald absent + not_mafia essentially voting dp) while dp was running up. while the reasoning doesn't seem wrong it sort of doesn't follow the interesting stuff that had been going on

898 + elaboration in 1150 just seems like a, convenient read on the situation that allows not voting dp & also not needing to make a short-term alignment judgement

1150/1: many of the townreads (crossed-out, ?) in 1151 were on pikachu at that moment, sort of discordant since he wants to consolidate onto somebody his townreads wanna push but apparently not pikachu. otherwise, more of a sort of convenient read on the situation that allows not voting dp - he's in the "well i don't tr him but i won't vote him today...." thing that's obvious to do with a partner

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wont really push against mjl lynch, should probably wait for replacement etc

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Since you all caught scum, I trust this isnt a completely insane starting point.

umm it might be a completely insane starting point

Its okay tingting is a scummy name ill just sheep fn.

tingting is maryjolisa/bob

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Is PP town? I sure hope so cuz I dont want to iso him anymore.

most likely

Any word on who done did the vig or nah?

no, nor should there be

.

i think i like pisskops catch up

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random thought, i feel like itd be useful to ask bob a bunch of tricky questions when hes catching up if possible

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no googling

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@bob, Elanor of Aquitaine was married to which King of England?

She was married to king BoB :-P

if you are able in the next 10 minutes i'd like you to come up with two townreads

it doesn't matter to me if they are accurate / poorly reasoned or whatever but i'd like to see what you come up with

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Why do you like his catchup?

seemed uncalculated + kind of looking all over the place to form reads

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..thanks

i guess it just reflected what i do when i'm like watching a game in passing and fumbling around to try to get a team guess - look at vote counts, look at the reads of a few trusted randos, read thru flipped scum, etc

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i think vorkuta has a lot of content this game that's, like,

fine

, and i'm worried that people are considering that authoritatively town-indicative - notice he's a highposter here and was double bussed when he got lynched. also nomnomnom was uncomfy with him and she was kill :x.

i don't rly think he's playing unlike town but i don't want him to be in the townbin in the way i do a bunch of other people

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Dude

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schadd, I mean if we want to make post count to content ratio arguments then we should be looking at MJL first

i did not want to do that

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i didn't get fruit

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uh i'm making this post as a bookkeeping measure for something

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I can’t read Bob for shit either.

@Schadd

: Why are you voting for me again? I’m obviously not scum here. I have another scum game on top of the one you reviewed if you need more convincing?

uh, poe is tight - im not really willing to consider penguin, pisskop, psyche and to a lesser extent nm and performer

you're probably playing unlike your typical scum game but also i don't see anything inimitable you've done, you pushed against the d1 scum lynch, and the way you're playing today doesn't seem unlike TMI

i'm not

wholly

convinced bob is town - i doubt he's partnered with otter or vorkuta and i tend to assume bussing doesnt happen when there's multiple PRs probably unaccounted for (tracker seems evident from chenny's role as well) but i've been wrong about that in the past

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also sure show me the scumgame

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as annoying of a thing it is for those people to deal with, i dont rly trust people that like playing scum

as i said there aren't really a lot of other people to consider and the non-meta facts of the game point to him

are you tryna do luckyotter or something

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imagine i hammered them here POW

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id say thats a pretty straightforward deduction yes

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ahhh he did it againwhatever

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Hey guys :)

What’s shaking?

Hey guys :)

What’s shaking?

lock wolf

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i dont rly recall you having control in the skygazer game for instance