Mini Normal 2080 ft. My Cats [Game Over]

skitter30 · Thu Jun 27, 2019 2:50 pm

i like my nero vote rn, i think

skitter30 · Thu Jun 27, 2019 2:54 pm

i don't have a good sense for that offhand, what do you think about it?

i think her reads are bad but that she actually believes them

skitter30 · Thu Jun 27, 2019 2:55 pm

skitter30 · Thu Jun 27, 2019 2:57 pm

me, dp, nero, i'm still stuck on shoshin from yesterday

i don't know what ur other reads are offhand rn, you wanna share an updated readslist?

skitter30 · Thu Jun 27, 2019 3:01 pm

ok

i think your frustration/ate/freaking out is prob townie for you

skitter30 · Thu Jun 27, 2019 3:05 pm

yep, basically, that's what you do

and i think the stream-of-conscious frustration-meltdown thing you're doing rn is townie so

skitter30 · Thu Jun 27, 2019 3:10 pm

a large part of my read on urap is that i think he has more ~wim~ as town, and more motivation to gamesolve as town, and he's not doing that here

but the thing is that i did a bit of a look at his activity sitewide, and it's pretty low everywhere - so i can't tell if the lack of ~wim~ is because he's busy in real life or if he's scum, so i backed off a bit for right now, at least until he gets back

still think he's p scummy tho

skitter30 · Thu Jun 27, 2019 3:13 pm

sorry, who's the 'he' in the first sentence, it's a little hard for me to follow what you're sayign there?

skitter30 · Thu Jun 27, 2019 3:15 pm

ok

i believe that you strongly think he's town

i don't really feel it

skitter30 · Fri Jun 28, 2019 12:57 am

In post 3341, NerfedBuJ wrote:Skitter you have too many scumreads.

I know, its a problem

skitter30 · Fri Jun 28, 2019 1:39 am

No i'm p sure dunn is town

I think urap said he would have more time tom - i'm kinda waiting on that to decide whether or not to move my vote back to him

skitter30 · Fri Jun 28, 2019 9:57 am

Before you were complaining that the wagon built too fast

skitter30 · Fri Jun 28, 2019 9:59 am

Cuz i'm p sure you called me scummy for joining the wagon too fast, and now i'm scummy for avoiding it; it doesnt reallh make sense to have it both ways

skitter30 · Fri Jun 28, 2019 10:05 am

And scum!me is doing that because ...?

skitter30 · Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:49 am

No, that's not a thing we're doing today

VOTE: nero

skitter30 · Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:49 am

Do nero's reada suck this bad usually if he's town?

skitter30 · Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:53 am

I really dont think dp is scum here, i dont see myself voting there today

skitter30 · Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:54 am

Like everyone nero pushed flipped town so i'm a little skeptical at this point + he had a really icky defense of the urap wagon

skitter30 · Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:59 am

In post 2743, NerfedBuJ wrote:Like ironically I think skitter has more chance of being scum WITH nero here than with anybody else.

So basically she's town. Because nero is town. And because she literally got sheeped by half the playerlist as soon as she started posting in day 1. Scum wouldn't sheep their partner that blatantly. They just wouldn't. Not when she townread shoshin. You put these two in the center of attention and town will have questions about why they aren't dead just because of how people tend to treat these two players. And that means that skitter would not be able to endgame if her partners did in fact sheep her and she openly defended shoshin and then killer her n1.

So please. Let's just kill the obvscum so that we can then find the last scum between DP/dunn/saladman

Bleh buj thought teacher was next and was townreading nero, so i'm not sure why he died. Nero scum doesnt make super much sense in the universe i think

I'm assuming buj was the nk

@buj u played great this game!

skitter30 · Mon Jul 01, 2019 5:00 am

VOTE: pk

skitter30 · Mon Jul 01, 2019 5:27 am

Combo of:

-> following dunn's order
-> could be a bussing vote on urap (i was thinking of voting salad but i'm not sure scum!salad is on his partner's wagon that long)
-> hating the miller thing from both him and cinn

Figured this is a decent place to start

How are you reading him?

skitter30 · Mon Jul 01, 2019 5:36 am

Ok u wanna talk about your doubts

skitter30 · Mon Jul 01, 2019 6:15 am

In post 3452, nomnomnom wrote:I hate your movements yesterday, it felt like trying to see if you could get someone else lynched than urap with the justification that you didn't want the day to end.

Fair - i did think he was scum, but i kinda put it on hold for a few days because i feel kinda bad lynching peopke when they arent here or when they say they'll be back in a few days and i know they arent the type to lurk through it on purpose

skitter30 · Mon Jul 01, 2019 6:15 am

In post 3454, nomnomnom wrote:If you're scum that also means that you prepared your bus one day in advance because I firmly remember your pushing stance on urap day 1 until the wagons split to Flubber/Nero.

So yeah, in that sense it's a bit less likely I suppose. Just want to calm my paranoia here.

Oh i would totally do that if i were scum and wanted to bus

skitter30 · Mon Jul 01, 2019 6:16 am

UNVOTE:

skitter30 · Mon Jul 01, 2019 6:30 am

I mean i could point out the bits i would not have done as scum but you have little reason to believe me so it might just be an exercise in futility

But i can if i want

But yeah i strongly believe in getting in that distancing as early as possible as scum for just this reason

skitter30 · Mon Jul 01, 2019 7:35 am

Dp where do u think u went wrong on urap?

skitter30 · Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:18 am

I'm p sure that dunn/nom/dp are town so rn i'm looking dor two scum in {salad, vork, pk, nero}

Dp do u have enough knowledge to answer this: does town!nero have awful reads?

skitter30 · Mon Jul 01, 2019 10:16 am

In post 3473, Nero Cain wrote:my "defense" was the exact same as teachers. The only difference is he was following you around like a lost puppy.

I'll pull this up later, and i dont remember what teacher said

What i'm specifically talking about here is that it was building, you were complaining that it built too fast, and that when it was stalling, you were complaining that it had too much resistance, and both ways you came to the conclusion that me and/or dp were scum
This doesnt make sense to me as a consistent thought process really

skitter30 · Mon Jul 01, 2019 10:16 am

In post 3474, Saladman27 wrote:I was certainly right about the TR interaction with me in the early game...

What is this referring to?

skitter30 · Mon Jul 01, 2019 10:17 am

In post 3478, Detective Pikachu wrote:Hmm there was the thing where urap insisted vork was town like three times at game start. I wonder if he wanted to go full wolf this game vs. Vork pocket? Townread on scumbuddy would match a full wolf day 1?

Felt like a white-knight to me - that specific interaction makes me think vork isnt scum

skitter30 · Mon Jul 01, 2019 10:18 am

In post 3480, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 216, Nero Cain wrote:kinda feel like scum are

urap

teacher

dp
im basically 1-1 right now.

my big hold up is Skitter tunneling me with the reasoning "his reads are so bad" just looks like projecting scum.

Buj came to the same conclusion as me and Dunn is scum reading you and I'm not town reading you so I'm ok with voting you today.

Vote me then

skitter30 · Mon Jul 01, 2019 10:22 am

skitter30 · Mon Jul 01, 2019 10:25 am

Also i dont think this game is that hard

There's 2 scum in 4 peopke - everyone else i townread

skitter30 · Mon Jul 01, 2019 11:03 am

In post 3476, Nero Cain wrote:I forgot he was in the game! My read is maybe stale but I liked his early game. What about him is so scummy that I can't ignore?

In post 3489, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 3482, skitter30 wrote:
In post 3473, Nero Cain wrote:my "defense" was the exact same as teachers. The only difference is he was following you around like a lost puppy.
I'll pull this up later, and i dont remember what teacher said

What i'm specifically talking about here is that it was building, you were complaining that it built too fast, and that when it was stalling, you were complaining that it had too much resistance, and both ways you came to the conclusion that me and/or dp were scum
This doesnt make sense to me as a consistent thought process really
I don't think this ever happened. I did make the observation that it was odd that you and Teacher were both scum reading urap but not voting there which isn't the same thing as complaining.

I'll pull up the posts i'm referencing wheb i'm at a pc later

skitter30 · Mon Jul 01, 2019 11:04 am

In post 3490, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 3485, skitter30 wrote:
In post 3480, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 216, Nero Cain wrote:kinda feel like scum are

urap

teacher

dp
im basically 1-1 right now.

my big hold up is Skitter tunneling me with the reasoning "his reads are so bad" just looks like projecting scum.

Buj came to the same conclusion as me and Dunn is scum reading you and I'm not town reading you so I'm ok with voting you today.
Vote me then
naw, I'm killing your teams PR

No, i think ur pushing the lynch that you think will be easier to push thru given the gamestate

skitter30 · Mon Jul 01, 2019 11:04 am

In post 3496, nomnomnom wrote:I'm weirded out by everyone leaving saladman out of the equation honestly.

He's p scummy, and i've said this many times

What tr thing is he referencing, do u know?

skitter30 · Mon Jul 01, 2019 11:06 am

In post 3499, Detective Pikachu wrote:Can I just say it's weird teacher was full doctor but sho died n1

Anyway yeah question is does urap spew salad town, vork town, both, or neither

Yeah that is, idk
Maybe he didnt doc her, or he got rb'd somehow

I think vork got spewed town, not sure about salad

skitter30 · Mon Jul 01, 2019 11:07 am

In post 3507, Saladman27 wrote:I think interactions in the early game is useful, the whole reason why I voted urap was because of that D1 post...

Which day1 post are you talking about?????

skitter30 · Mon Jul 01, 2019 11:11 am

I think that's a sitewide thing

Urap/dp on the first few pages dont look like partners

Urap/salad do look like partners imo; i need to really look at his iso in depth i think

skitter30 · Mon Jul 01, 2019 11:12 am

VOTE: salad

Also has anyone else noticed that ... he basically hasnt shared reads since like early day1?

skitter30 · Mon Jul 01, 2019 11:13 am

I think he's been skating by on the newbie card and on too scummy to be scum

skitter30 · Mon Jul 01, 2019 11:14 am

And urap defending that was bad

skitter30 · Mon Jul 01, 2019 11:17 am

Probably nero or vork

skitter30 · Mon Jul 01, 2019 11:17 am

Nero being significantly more likely

skitter30 · Mon Jul 01, 2019 11:21 am

I'm p sure he's town

skitter30 · Mon Jul 01, 2019 11:23 am

He was my traitor in a multiball game
And i thought he was town

Absolutely can't read him or diffrentiate between scum and bad town

skitter30 · Mon Jul 01, 2019 11:24 am

In post 3538, Saladman27 wrote:This may not be relevant, why do you keep on using the word probably? @skit

Idk that's how i express things

U wanna share some reads now?

skitter30 · Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:19 pm

@salad: are you ignoring me asking you for reads or ...?

skitter30 · Mon Jul 01, 2019 11:51 pm

I think dp and nom are both town

Can we wagon salad now?

skitter30 · Tue Jul 02, 2019 12:34 am

In post 3614, Vorkuta wrote:NC and Salad I've talked about
Nom I've talked about

Why is salad town

skitter30 · Tue Jul 02, 2019 12:35 am

In post 3614, Vorkuta wrote:The probability that skitter is deepwolf-ing scares me,
especially because there's the communal "expectation" that she'll solve the game for us,
and not as much scrutiny towards that slot as I'd like.

Why is this a thing

skitter30 · Tue Jul 02, 2019 12:43 am

What are your thoughts on salad

skitter30 · Tue Jul 02, 2019 12:49 am

I think urap's defense of him was p bad

skitter30 · Tue Jul 02, 2019 12:57 am

At that point there was basically nothing townie in salad's iso to ne townreading him for, that's why it was weird and why i called it out at the time

skitter30 · Tue Jul 02, 2019 12:58 am

In post 664, u r a person 2 wrote:saladman reads are pretty townie overall i think

Like this .... no they werent

skitter30 · Tue Jul 02, 2019 1:01 am

He's obviously trying to solve the game

skitter30 · Tue Jul 02, 2019 1:01 am

In post 3631, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 3629, skitter30 wrote:
In post 664, u r a person 2 wrote:saladman reads are pretty townie overall i think
Like this .... no they werent
ok sure but why is that defending a scumbuddy instead of defending town?

Why go out on a limb there to save the mislynch for p bad reasons

skitter30 · Tue Jul 02, 2019 1:02 am

Like all he could come up with is 'those reads look townie' when they objectively didnt

skitter30 · Tue Jul 02, 2019 11:59 am

In post 3651, nomnomnom wrote:VOTE: Skitter

Really wanna know about the preference.

Ok

Lets talk about why you think i'm scum exactly

skitter30 · Tue Jul 02, 2019 12:08 pm

I'm not inherently scumreading him for writing nonsense

skitter30 · Tue Jul 02, 2019 12:10 pm

I'll be around in a few hours to respond to that, i have an appt now

skitter30 · Tue Jul 02, 2019 2:52 pm

In post 3658, nomnomnom wrote:
In post 3654, skitter30 wrote:
In post 3651, nomnomnom wrote:VOTE: Skitter

Really wanna know about the preference.
Ok

Lets talk about why you think i'm scum exactly
I think I explained it already.

I hate your movements yesterday trying to extend the day trying to extend the lynch to salad, then substantially finding movements in me and Nero. You weren't on the wagon but I could see your distant approval ready to switch to me. That's how yesterday felt to me. I also don't understand your DP townread and honestly a lot of how you approached my arguments about you being capable of bussing Urap from the get go and openly saying this is something you would do as scum? I feel like scum!you could say that. And the reason for that is because I feel we kinda have the same mentality when approaching mafia. It's only an intuition but my heart tells me you are the same kind of scum player that I am. You do things openly and you're not scared to do or say things that make you look worse.

That's a bad way to read people though so I mostly stick to my impression about your movements this game that have been honestly feeling scum motivated.

Can you detail to me why DP is town?

a) you know how you're reading nero as being town for thinking about this game incredibly similar to you? that's basically how i'm reading dp rn. while some of his indivdiual reads may be bad (ahem urap) overall i vibe with his approach to the game and he just *makes sense*. i understand what he's pushing and why he's pushing it
also just like at the first ~3 pages of rvs - dp/urap don't feel like partners there

b) your impression of my scumgame is quite wrong - i don't do *anything* openly and i'm hyperaware of how everything i post will be perceived, and i'll rewrite posts that i know sound scummy so that they won't be, and i'll do whatever i need to do so that i won't look bad player X flips - it's easy to gt in the legwork for that in advance and make yourself look good if you can tell who's going to flip and you know their alignments
basically my mo as scum is to make sure that town doesn't have anything to pin on me
i don't know if i've ever managed to say this convincingly as scum (i have issues faking confidence as scum, as town i just ... am), but i say this as town all the time - even last night in a game that just ended that i can link you

c) at the beginning of yesterday i scumread you, sure, but after your like twelfth freakout i didn't anymore because i think it would be p hard for you to repeatedly fake that - after that point i never wanted to lynch you or switch a vote to you

d) i think salad is p scummy, and i have been saying as such since i want to say late day1, and yes, i'm happy with a vote on him at any time

skitter30 · Tue Jul 02, 2019 3:20 pm

probably town but i don't like it

skitter30 · Wed Jul 03, 2019 12:38 am

I wouldnt have been voting that way if i were scum and knew what people would flip, but whatever

skitter30 · Wed Jul 03, 2019 12:42 am

In post 3676, pisskop wrote:Skitter is on urap -solo- in 1.31. I wonder how that came about?

P sure that was at the time when shoshin/flubber wagons were p popular. I was townreading both and didnt want to vote either so voted someone else i didnt like

Urap had some icky interactions with both wagons but i dont remember if that was before my vote (ie and prompted it) or after

skitter30 · Wed Jul 03, 2019 12:44 am

In post 3674, Detective Pikachu wrote:Damn urap rode my ass on Sho's wagon like all day 1

Also this isnt a partner-y interaction between dp and urap ^^^^

I think urap had dp pocketed imo

skitter30 · Wed Jul 03, 2019 12:47 am

In post 24, u r a person 2 wrote:That's awesome about the kids, teacher! I'm sure the standardized tests will be np

@Pika do you have much experience with skitter?

In post 26, u r a person 2 wrote:wait I know the answer to that

so why did you choose her?

In post 28, u r a person 2 wrote:I was trying to beat around the bush, but here's what i'm getting at

i considered voting skitter, but chose teacher because I know that skitter vla's on weekends

did you consider that when making your rvs vote?

In post 31, u r a person 2 wrote:
In post 29, Detective Pikachu wrote:This isn't rvs! This is a night 0 guilty. Skitter killed someone in pregame

For shame, sir, to imply that my vote is just random
ok

should we let the pair of you self resolve and wagon someone else for the time being?

In post 35, u r a person 2 wrote:
In post 33, Detective Pikachu wrote:Kind of a weird sentiment for page two there, Mr. Cigar.
I don't really want to engage with your claim or vote skitter because weekend, but I do want to play, and you're here

where should we vote? Join me on teacher and we'll play some Alice cooper?

Also this is a really weird interaction for partners ^^^^

skitter30 · Wed Jul 03, 2019 12:48 am

In post 70, u r a person 2 wrote:lol ok

how about why do you think cinn is scum?

I think scum!cinn likely has their claim figured out before making it early d1

This actually isnt that great for cinn's slot, in retrospect

skitter30 · Wed Jul 03, 2019 12:52 am

I mean even using tris's game as context the early rvs thing i dont think comes from partners

I also realky think his defense of vork early game was a wk

skitter30 · Wed Jul 03, 2019 12:52 am

I guess i'll continie this on/off while i'm bored at work

skitter30 · Wed Jul 03, 2019 12:56 am

In post 410, u r a person 2 wrote:
In post 350, skitter30 wrote:? what do you mean by self-resolve?
well, if he's a cop with a night zero, presumably he gets night killed pretty quick

he was talking about a claim, and I was just trying to get on to another topic by playing his game

Like did he really think dp had a n0 green check or ...?

Like this is such a bizaree convo to have with/about a partner

skitter30 · Wed Jul 03, 2019 1:15 am

In post 3688, pisskop wrote:
In post 3686, skitter30 wrote:Like did he really think dp had a n0 green check or ...?
not normal. if this was a real convo its not scum theatre.

That's my point

skitter30 · Wed Jul 03, 2019 1:16 am

I still think urap's defende of vork felt like a wk

skitter30 · Wed Jul 03, 2019 1:18 am

In post 3697, pisskop wrote:nah vorks a scumnugget

It was such a protracted and weird defense tho, i'm not sure i see him going out on a limb like that to defend a partner

I dont think nero is town either

skitter30 · Wed Jul 03, 2019 12:27 pm

In post 3710, nomnomnom wrote:
In post 3709, pisskop wrote:vote vork with me plz and thank you
That {DP Skitter you} triplet really needs solving to you and honestly the fact that both you and skitter are trying to get out of that is making me worried.

Oh, do explain

skitter30 · Wed Jul 03, 2019 12:28 pm

In post 3719, pisskop wrote:
In post 3711, Nero Cain wrote:Is this an important question?
youre playing this awful pushy nero.

Thats a bad look for you. There might be something to this 'nero is scum' talk Ive been hearing. This isnt your town personality.

Yes can we do a nero thing now?

skitter30 · Wed Jul 03, 2019 12:29 pm

In post 3728, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 3721, nomnomnom wrote:
In post 3720, pisskop wrote:
In post 3718, nomnomnom wrote:Nero's wagon
you tr him?
Yes. Have been for a while now.
EXACTLY! Thats another reason Skitter is scum. You called me town multiple times but she went out of her way to selectively quote where you said I was only a "bad lynch"

? Not sure what you're talking about here?

skitter30 · Wed Jul 03, 2019 12:30 pm

In post 3732, nomnomnom wrote:
In post 3730, skitter30 wrote:
In post 3710, nomnomnom wrote:
In post 3709, pisskop wrote:vote vork with me plz and thank you
That {DP Skitter you} triplet really needs solving to you and honestly the fact that both you and skitter are trying to get out of that is making me worried.
Oh, do explain
I already explained that to you skitt

I meant explain the part where you think i'm trying to 'get out of it'

skitter30 · Wed Jul 03, 2019 12:32 pm

Nm i thought you meant something else

Yeah i'm doing all that cuz ur poe is p bad

skitter30 · Wed Jul 03, 2019 12:34 pm

Yeah that's what i thought she meant, that i' trying to weasel my way out of being lynched, which i'm, well, not doing

skitter30 · Wed Jul 03, 2019 12:37 pm

In post 3743, nomnomnom wrote:No I think you're trying to get out of my PoE because it destroys you in the long run and you're trying to extend the lynchpool to at least one person that I am confident is town.

You 3 cannot be all town. I refuse to believe that.

No, i'm trying to lynch people i think are scum

Get a better poe

skitter30 · Wed Jul 03, 2019 12:38 pm

In post 3744, pisskop wrote:Id policy lynch nom just to set a precedent against such play

No

skitter30 · Wed Jul 03, 2019 12:38 pm

Massclaim should prob be tomorrow?

The vig is clearing tho

skitter30 · Wed Jul 03, 2019 12:42 pm

In post 3752, nomnomnom wrote:
In post 3744, pisskop wrote:Id policy lynch nom just to set a precedent against such play
Sometimes I just wish I could connect other people's brains to my brains because I have the impression that while what I type makes a lot of sense, it seems to chinese to people.

And unfortunately that's not a thing that only happens here. It's frustrating.

Maybe consider that this might be a thing that's happening in this game given that a significant part of why you're scumreading me is basically this

skitter30 · Wed Jul 03, 2019 12:49 pm

I, in part, townread them for doing the same thing that i did - it tels me that it's more likely that they're approaching thr game the same way that i am - p similar to why you're townreading nero

Also urap doesnt make sense as a urap partner really

Pisskop's miller thing is bad but on balance i dont think comes from scum who's capable of recognizing that doing so will makr them scumread

skitter30 · Wed Jul 03, 2019 12:50 pm

@vork idk if the vig is gated or not but vig's have to be town and i dont see anothet explanation for two deaths last night so whoever took the shot is basically conftown

skitter30 · Wed Jul 03, 2019 1:12 pm

... was there a cop claim that i missed?

skitter30 · Wed Jul 03, 2019 1:18 pm

Oh i meant dp there, whoops

skitter30 · Wed Jul 03, 2019 1:32 pm

I'm interested in voting nero or salad today

skitter30 · Wed Jul 03, 2019 2:57 pm

In post 3791, Vorkuta wrote:TL;DR We aren't as stone-walled as I thought we were as only the very very loud voices are the ones.... making the game-state look like what it's currently looking like.

Either way
nom's not going through
nero's not going through
Pika isn't going through
salad isn't going through

Dunn & Vork have 2 greens so probably won't go through

The rest is our lynchpool and I really don't like it

I'm townreading dp p strongly too

skitter30 · Wed Jul 03, 2019 2:57 pm

In post 3795, Nero Cain wrote:VOTE: no lynch

let's err on the side of caution

No

skitter30 · Wed Jul 03, 2019 2:58 pm

VOTE: nero

skitter30 · Wed Jul 03, 2019 3:02 pm

This is a p bad situation to suggest a nl in

skitter30 · Wed Jul 03, 2019 3:09 pm

In post 3817, Nero Cain wrote:how so?

because what's the point of not lynching here exactly ...

skitter30 · Wed Jul 03, 2019 3:13 pm

no, it really, really isn't

and i don't believe that you seriously think that 'scum are people who want to lynch today' ffs

skitter30 · Wed Jul 03, 2019 3:22 pm

In post 3843, Nero Cain wrote:scum are the ones that
NEED
ml's town doesn't.

No wtf this is just so bad

skitter30 · Wed Jul 03, 2019 3:27 pm

We dont know how/if the vig is gated
We dont know the alignment of the person they'd kill

So making any assumptions about the gamestate based on a vig that we dont really know anything about seems ridiculous to me

skitter30 · Thu Jul 04, 2019 12:17 am

In post 3853, Nero Cain wrote:how does no lynching hurt the town exactly?

I just dont see the point in playing around a worst-case scenario that i dont know exists

skitter30 · Thu Jul 04, 2019 12:19 am

In post 3855, Vorkuta wrote:
In post 3852, skitter30 wrote:based on a vig
PROVIDED THEY AREN'T COMPULSIVE
We politely ask them in good faith to holster their shot today and threaten to bully them in post-game or whatever if they don't comply.
They've already shot {buj/teacher} so they should be feeling bad/guilty by now (take it from a former vig )

IF WE'RE LUCKY, then our vig can shoot N4/N5.
If we're not then this is """mountainous"""

But either way- WORST CASE SCENARIO, tomorrow is lylo (town lynch and town vig shot) and given how half of the lynchpool is stonewalled off, I'm not willing to take those odds.

As much as I would really love tomorrow being 5:1... the expected outcome does not play in our favor.

If you're really that worried about what might happen overnight ... we should lynch today and the vig shouldnt kill. No lynching today, given the info we have, is dumb

skitter30 · Thu Jul 04, 2019 3:36 am

Lmao that's great

skitter30 · Thu Jul 04, 2019 1:16 pm

In post 3785, skitter30 wrote:I'm interested in voting nero or salad today

skitter30 · Thu Jul 04, 2019 1:16 pm

Have we all noticed that salad is once again going under the radar and being useless?

skitter30 · Thu Jul 04, 2019 1:29 pm

i kinda think he's bad town more than anything else tbh

skitter30 · Thu Jul 04, 2019 1:52 pm

ok

what about it do u think is similar?

skitter30 · Thu Jul 04, 2019 1:53 pm

nope, other way around

skitter30 · Thu Jul 04, 2019 1:55 pm

I meant more tell me why you think he's scum on meta and maybe i'll vote for him

skitter30 · Fri Jul 05, 2019 1:10 am

Dunn, why not salad or nero?

skitter30 · Fri Jul 05, 2019 1:16 am

I think urap was white-knighting him

He feels more like bad town than scum to me

skitter30 · Fri Jul 05, 2019 1:50 am

I really have no idea what you would or wouldnt do as scum

skitter30 · Fri Jul 05, 2019 2:17 am

In post 3908, Nero Cain wrote:what if, urap scum reading Vork but never voting him and then Skitter just waving it off means its a Vork-Skitter team?

why are all your posts so bad ... ?

VOTE: salad

skitter30 · Fri Jul 05, 2019 2:21 am

In post 3919, Nero Cain wrote:says the person that avoided the d2 scum lynch.

says the person that pushed 3/4 of the flipped town

skitter30 · Fri Jul 05, 2019 2:22 am

given that ... nobody is (strongly) townreading salad, there's resistance there because ... ?

skitter30 · Fri Jul 05, 2019 2:26 am

when did i play with you?

skitter30 · Fri Jul 05, 2019 2:29 am

i mean i did, yeah, cuz i don't know what game you're talking about, and i was going to point out that there's a difference between forgetting something and intentionally lying about something

skitter30 · Fri Jul 05, 2019 2:44 am

In post 3927, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 3921, skitter30 wrote:
In post 3919, Nero Cain wrote:says the person that avoided the d2 scum lynch.
says the person that pushed 3/4 of the flipped town

its easier for you when you know who all the town are.

though I don't think that's really all that accurate since I don't feel like I should be held responsible for thinking a fake claimer is scum and I only thought Flubber might be scum near the end when there was some resistance towards the end.

Also, its not like you didn't vote those town so I think you are being disingenuous and trying to make yourself look better.

i mean, this is true, but if i were scum it also would have been easy to been in the urap lynch so that i'd look good after he'd flip. if i were playing with that mindset wrt town lynches i absolutely would have done the same for scum ones (and i'm on record saying this in numerous places, this is basically my mo as scum - make sure i look good whenever people flip, whatever their alignment, and playing to that purpose)

i argued p vehemently against shoshin and flubber, thank you

skitter30 · Fri Jul 05, 2019 2:44 am

In post 3928, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 3927, Nero Cain wrote:Also, its not like you didn't vote those town so I think you are being disingenuous and trying to make yourself look better.

oh but I never wanted to lynch them

yeah ok then that means you wear being shit with your vote and aimlessly throwing it around.

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=79966

oh hey look, I just got out of a game where I lynched scum for throwing around thier vote and not pushing for a lynch.

i disagree that i was aimlessly throwing it around, thank you

skitter30 · Fri Jul 05, 2019 3:01 am

i'm p sure i was not on the wagon that ran them up to claim, i wasn't there while it happened and i came back to the thread afterwards and she had already claimed

and no that does not fit my scum mo, i would have just bussed him there if i were scum so we wouldn't have this conversation after the fact, how does this fit my scum mo exactly?

skitter30 · Fri Jul 05, 2019 3:06 am

but then not lynching him ... why would i do that?

it just opens the door for people to push me exactly like you're doing here

like it's slightly ridiculous to argue that i shouldn't get towncred for avoiding the town wagons because scum!me would have done that so that i'd look good when they flipped but *at the same time argue* that i stayed off the scum wagon despite the fact that i'd know that i'd look bad when *he* flipped

like it doesn't make sense both ways

skitter30 · Fri Jul 05, 2019 3:12 am

nom thinks i look p bad and has been pushing me all day on that so

and of course i would, that's how i play scum

i'd prioritize being on the scum wagon over not being on the town wagon

skitter30 · Fri Jul 05, 2019 3:19 am

you realize i'm not pushign vork, right?

anyways i'm at work so later

skitter30 · Fri Jul 05, 2019 5:09 am

So can we lynch him now or ...?

skitter30 · Fri Jul 05, 2019 5:14 am

Idk i asked dunn last night but he didnt answer me yet

@dp would u vote nero?

skitter30 · Sun Jul 07, 2019 2:15 pm

In post 3960, Saladman27 wrote:I think I’ve squeezed out my usefulness, so I might as well VOTE: Salad to help osmewhat.

uhhhhhh

skitter30 · Sun Jul 07, 2019 2:17 pm

i'm still p confused why we aren't wagonign nero ... ?

skitter30 · Sun Jul 07, 2019 2:19 pm

i think pk is townie too

skitter30 · Sun Jul 07, 2019 2:19 pm

In post 4004, pisskop wrote:If somebody thinks this nero is scum

[and I do think scum nero is more likely to ask so many unindicative questions to try to justify a push] then we should talk about it.

let's talk about it hten

skitter30 · Sun Jul 07, 2019 2:20 pm

In post 4029, pisskop wrote:This looks like unabashed WKing to me. Town or scum, vork was WKed

yeah, i think that points to town!vork - not sure he wk's a partner like this really

skitter30 · Sun Jul 07, 2019 2:21 pm

In post 4030, pisskop wrote:
In post 644, u r a person 2 wrote:
In post 465, Detective Pikachu wrote:I dislike nom's early iso but the vork+ stuff makes me think she's more null than null-scum, the vork unvote revote would almost make me lean town if I didn't dislike the bujaber vote from earlier
the bujaber vote was good and more people should be voting there!

why are they town?
He's now using vork explicitly as a means to push buj.

The question is if townvork would recognize he is being pocketed, and who else should have seen it.

This is the first time DP and urap have directly interacted, afaik. Missing the more important half of the game means I wont catch this shit.

they had a p weird interaction in the first couple of pages of the game about dp's rvs vote on me that doesn't read like partners *at all*

skitter30 · Sun Jul 07, 2019 2:22 pm

In post 4033, pisskop wrote:Hot Take:

- urap defends vork like its a White Flag game because vork get murderated before lylo due to his playstyle
-
urap and vork are teamed with another, less sociable or more lurky player.

i can only see this if they're partnered with like ... salad slot
or i guess your slot at that stage of the game; i don't think anyone else really qualifies

skitter30 · Sun Jul 07, 2019 2:24 pm

In post 4038, nomnomnom wrote:Urap flipped goon.

Defending a partner could mean they're a scum PR.

That feels like a logical approach. That's also that approach that made me guess urap was a bus mostly and that scums were ready to bus him. And that's why I have doubts about Skitter.

again, if i were scum and wanted to bus urap, this isn't what it would look like

skitter30 · Sun Jul 07, 2019 2:25 pm

In post 4041, pisskop wrote:
In post 664, u r a person 2 wrote:saladman reads are pretty townie overall i think
This is about the first time salad is mentioned at all . . .

and I want to add that atp in the game I more or less agree based on my previous read.

i really didn't like salad's reads at that point and i think this interaction is scum-indicative for him

skitter30 · Sun Jul 07, 2019 2:28 pm

In post 4045, pisskop wrote:Lets start basic:

They begin their convos with
half-committments [there's a grammatical word for this thing], like 'I guess' and 'I mean'.
'ok', and the like. '
should I tr you'. Soft ball questions, banal agreements that confirm that something strictly happened.
And they both part ways. but they made special time here.

Id be interested in knowing who Skit is pushing here, because their talk is ultimately inconsequential and about a lurker.

Yea, this looks like it was made to cross-talk without a PT. not going to lie. but not committed to a skit sr yet.

bolded: not ai for me - this is how i write as town and i consciously go out of my way to mimic that as scum

a bunch of times in early game urap's reads were just so ????? upsdie from mine that i hard time figuring out how he was approachign the game because i just couldn't understand the mindset he was coming from to produce the reads he had

this was one of those times, so i was trying to prod him more because that readslist *did not* look townie to me and i was incredibly confused how it looked townie to *him*

i don't remember who i was pushing there but i can check, give me a couple of min

skitter30 · Sun Jul 07, 2019 2:29 pm

also i think urap was trying to mimic his side of a similar convo we had the last time we were tvt

skitter30 · Sun Jul 07, 2019 2:32 pm

Saladman27 (3):

nomnomnom, skitter30,
Saladman27

(L-2)

Vorkuta (2):

Creature, pisskop

pisskop (1):

Nero Cain

No Lynch (1):

Vorkuta

Not Voting (1):

Dunnstral

With

8

alive, it takes

5

to hammer.
Day 3 ends in

(expired on 2019-07-15 08:45:00)

In post 4045, pisskop wrote:Id be interested in knowing who Skit is pushing here, because their talk is ultimately inconsequential and about a lurker.

i was voting vork but i don't think i was pushing him

(it looks like this was ~ five days or so after the game started but i missed the first few irl days so i was still in catch-up mode and getting acquainted with teh game at this point i think)

skitter30 · Sun Jul 07, 2019 2:33 pm

In post 4046, pisskop wrote:The signals are all there. Skit opens vague and softs a question, they talk across several wavelengths, and then they clearly state they are leaving their computer.

i mean ... why have a weird convo like this as scum at all in thread (esp. the 'leaving the computer bit')

also like i said i was trying to get a feel for urap like i did in a previous game where we were tvt and hashing things out in-real-time helped there and i think he was trying to mimic his half of that prior convo

skitter30 · Sun Jul 07, 2019 2:34 pm

In post 4047, pisskop wrote:Shit. Skit you need to get in here and tell me a story.

i'm v/la fridays and saturdays and today was weird, sorry

skitter30 · Sun Jul 07, 2019 2:35 pm

In post 4057, pisskop wrote:Why was shoshin killed n1?

Was it a crumb or something obvious or we just dont know?

i mean she claimed cop day1 sooooo
a bigger mystery is why teacher wasn't on her that night

skitter30 · Sun Jul 07, 2019 2:37 pm

In post 4090, Detective Pikachu wrote:"Nom trying to mislynch shoshin doesn't make her town" isn't really contradictory logic, if you thought she was cop you hard push during the day to make a doc protect less likely and then kill at night. It's an aggressive play but hardly unthinkable.

If I was contradictory before it was in trying to reconcile your softs with your actions, but strictly speaking that reconciliation is unneccessary to my read of you. At the end of the day I don't really need to know *why you knew sho wasn't cop.* Your obsession with shading my slot makes it hard to see you as town. If you're scum, somehow your play must have made sense to you as scum.

Your ate seems manipulative and your reasoning often fake and forced. In any case you seem really unpleasant to play with here and you're not dying today it seems so... Idk I guess I'll have to brainstorm other solutions.

I would really discourage you from continuing to be so manipulative emotionally if you want your wins to mean anything on this site... Winning games because people simply don't want to keep playing with you is a pretty poor way to win. Losing games because you alienate anyone who disagrees with you is also really cool.

bleh this is annoying but town

skitter30 · Sun Jul 07, 2019 2:39 pm

In post 4100, ofrhz wrote:Saladman27 (3): nomnomnom, skitter30, Saladman27 (L-2)

honestly i'm not sure scum!salad leaves his vote on for this long given that he did absolutley get to l-1

or, more importantly, i'm not sure scum!salad's partner would let him leae his vote on for this long

VOTE: nero

skitter30 · Sun Jul 07, 2019 2:39 pm

In post 4101, ofrhz wrote:
A Totodile has appeared! Creature replaces Detective Pikachu

heya creature

any thoughts on the game thus far?

skitter30 · Sun Jul 07, 2019 3:09 pm

In post 4134, Nero Cain wrote:In fairness, I'm not all that sure what her Dunn/Nom reads are but I know she's recently called piss, salad, Vork, and Creature town so she's either calling me scum with one of Dunn/Nom or setting up for a "Dunn and Nom are scum!" push after she hopefully pushes my mislynch.

yeah it's a bit of a problem, i don't have enough scumreads rn

don't think i'm ever pushing nom this game honestly
don't think dunn is scum either, or dp

p sure all scum is in {you/salad/pk/creature/vork} (which is, you know, what i've been saying all phase)

skitter30 · Sun Jul 07, 2019 3:10 pm

In post 4132, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 4115, skitter30 wrote:i'm still p confused why we aren't wagonign nero ... ?
maybe there would be a wagon on me if your case on me wasn't so generic and baseless.

"nero has bad reads"

"nero thought 3 people that flipped town were scum"

I don't believe that a two-year vet has such a surface level case as town.

a) the scumread is more than that
b) ok

skitter30 · Sun Jul 07, 2019 3:22 pm

In post 4138, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 4136, skitter30 wrote:a) the scumread is more than that
Whats the rest?

bad pushes for the last three dayphases, bad suggestions that are kinda ridiculous in this gamestate (no lynch), i'm p sure you're buddying nom, the fact that like everything you're posting feels like it's driving an agenda, the fact that when i read your posts they just feel bad and p gross, the fact that you keep trying to push shitty lynches

skitter30 · Sun Jul 07, 2019 3:22 pm

In post 4137, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 4135, skitter30 wrote:p sure all scum is in {you/salad/pk/creature/vork}
didn't you just call them all town?

So basically, I'm still your sole scum read.

i mean i've been saying for like a week that i wanted to lynch you or salad so

skitter30 · Sun Jul 07, 2019 3:26 pm

??? what's your probem

i started the dayphase saying i wanted to vote in you/salad
i just said i don't want to vote salad rn
so i'm voting you

what part of this is difficult or hard to understand ????

like how is any of this doubletalk

skitter30 · Sun Jul 07, 2019 3:31 pm

so why don't we just no-lynch day3 of every game then

i really don't get why no-lynching is a good idea here

the way the two of you have been playing this game do *not* look like tvt at all. i don't think you're both scum here either, so svt, and i'm p sure nom is town

the way that you keep agreeing on like everything does not look natural - i think you have her pocketed and that you're molding your agenda around hers to have her push things for you

skitter30 · Sun Jul 07, 2019 3:36 pm

I'm not rescinding it so much as i'm currently tethinking it and i'm not atm if i still scumread him

(More accurately, i do scumread his play and interactions with urap but i'm not sure this stunt comes from scum and i need to think about it more)

Rn i dont know who else i scumread besides nero

skitter30 · Sun Jul 07, 2019 3:40 pm

Saladman27 (2):

nomnomnom, Saladman27

Vorkuta (2):

Creature, pisskop

pisskop (1):

Nero Cain

Nero Cain (1):

skitter30

No Lynch (1):

Vorkuta

Not Voting (1):

Dunnstral

With

8

alive, it takes

5

to hammer.
Day 3 ends in

(expired on 2019-07-15 08:45:00)

In post 4146, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 4142, skitter30 wrote:
but you are using your calling Salad town as justification for why you are voting me but you are also using it as justification for why I'm not your sole scum read.

In post 4135, skitter30 wrote:p sure all scum is in {you/salad/pk/creature/vork
you also just got done calling Vork, Creature and PK town so????

it's really weird that you have Vork listed here b/c you keep calling the guy town.

Salad isnt really a townread, but i want yo vote in the two of you and dont want to vote him rn so yeah i'm voting you; again, not sure what part of this u find confusing

And i'm aware that this is presumably 10:3 and that there is presumably more than one wcum left even tho there's only one person i want to vote rn

Basically since i'm onviously going wrong somewhere those are lesser tier townreads that i'm less confident on and yhe group of people that i think my wrong reads are in

Also i thinj i put the dp slot in twice, i'm very confident he's town, creature should not be in that list

Like do u think i believe that there's only one scum left??? Because otherwise i dont understand what this convo is about

skitter30 · Sun Jul 07, 2019 3:41 pm

In post 4149, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 4147, skitter30 wrote:Rn i dont know who else i scumread besides ner
this is scum that singularly faux scumhunting.

This is actually insulting

skitter30 · Sun Jul 07, 2019 3:42 pm

In post 4148, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 4144, skitter30 wrote:the way that you keep agreeing on like everything does not look natural - i think you have her pocketed and that you're molding your agenda around hers to have her push things for you
What things am I agreeing with and why can't I agree on things? Town agree with one another all the time so...why is my agreeing scummy?

Cuz you've been agreeing with basically everything she's pushed, besides for thr mass claim thing, sincr like mid day 1 and it isnt natural

skitter30 · Sun Jul 07, 2019 4:01 pm

I feel like ur being deliberately obtuse rn

Again, i'm aware that there is more than one scum left
If i knew where it was i'd be pushing there
There's a group of players that i think all scum is in. I dont know which of them i'm wrongly townreading rn, but i'm p sure all scum is in that group

Again, which oart of this is confusing

I think salad is prob ur most likely partner
Pedit ffs i feel like you're deliverarely misunderstanding me

skitter30 · Sun Jul 07, 2019 4:04 pm

In post 4155, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 4150, skitter30 wrote:Also i thinj i put the dp slot in twice, i'm very confident he's town, creature should not be in that list
but creature is the DP slot.

please quote where you ever call Vork scum?

Yes, that's why i'm saying he shouldnt be in that list

I dont think i called vork scum at any point in the last two dayphases

Do u not understand the notion: weaker townreads so since i obviously am townreading too many people i need to re-evaluate the weaker reads ... ?

Because i feel like you're trying to bait me into contradicting myself by being deliberately obtuse and i dont get what the point of this conversation is

skitter30 · Sun Jul 07, 2019 4:05 pm

Ok i'm not responding to you anymore

If *anyone else* wants to talk to me about this lmk

skitter30 · Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:58 am

Mass claim and no lynch are still dumb

Given, though, how dead the gamestate is and the fact that we seem to be grislocked here i dont oppose massclaim as vehemently as i did before, but we absolutely must lynch afterwards

skitter30 · Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:00 am

I dont see the point rn

It's also 6:2

skitter30 · Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:01 am

No-lynching gives scum a free nk, it's dumb

skitter30 · Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:08 am

Yeah and i should give scum an nk without ensuring a lynch happens (the only way for scum to die barring a vig that we dont know can act tonight) because ... ?

I just said that i wont oppose massclaim either

skitter30 · Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:20 am

I think i'm voting scum
You telling me that you're town doesnt really mean much to me

skitter30 · Mon Jul 08, 2019 11:05 am

I'm very confident that i'll win, regardless of your alignment, and i'm most confident that out of everyone you're scum

I dont particularly want to tho

skitter30 · Mon Jul 08, 2019 11:19 am

B/c i'm feeling p burnt out of mafia rn and doing that i'm p sure will sap any interest or enjoyment i have from this game rn

Also i'm more confident that i'll win than i am of your alignment, that's why i answered in that order

skitter30 · Mon Jul 08, 2019 11:42 am

In post 4180, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 4179, skitter30 wrote:B/c i'm feeling p burnt out of mafia rn and doing that i'm p sure will sap any interest or enjoyment i have from this game rn
just look at this disgusting
ATE
.

In post 4179, skitter30 wrote:Also i'm more confident that i'll win than i am of your alignment, that's why i answered in that order
You sound a little worried that I won't flip scum.

you asked why i didnt want to, and i told you. It isn't ate, it's an answer to your question in that i'm explaining my current mindset

I'm most confident out of everyone that you're going to flip scum, i feel like you're trying to bait me to say something u can push, and i dont feel like playing this song and dance rn

skitter30 · Mon Jul 08, 2019 11:58 am

In post 4182, Nero Cain wrote:im not at that certain why finally getting the lynch you want "sap any interest or enjoyment i have from this game rn" Shouldn't you be happy and ecstatic? So to me, it sounds a bit like any 1v1 against me would fuck you over, and it does. And I think you are just scum that knows you are doomed.

No offense but this is a p gross push and i think u know it

skitter30 · Mon Jul 08, 2019 11:59 am

In post 4185, nomnomnom wrote:VOTE: Skitter
We need too many votes for a lynch so I guess I have no choice

We can talk about this when i get back from a thing i'm going to

skitter30 · Mon Jul 08, 2019 11:59 am

In post 4185, nomnomnom wrote:VOTE: Skitter
We need too many votes for a lynch so I guess I have no choice

Also would u vote nero in the event of my townflip?

skitter30 · Mon Jul 08, 2019 12:08 pm

In post 4189, nomnomnom wrote:
In post 4188, skitter30 wrote:
In post 4185, nomnomnom wrote:VOTE: Skitter
We need too many votes for a lynch so I guess I have no choice
Also would u vote nero in the event of my townflip?
I'd need to reconsider the entire gamestate so reconsidering my read on Nero would be necessary.

I think I die tonight though.

I think you've been pocketed and that you should reconsider now

Like just look at his push on me rn - it's p gross and slimy.

I gotta go, will be around later

skitter30 · Mon Jul 08, 2019 3:24 pm

In post 4192, nomnomnom wrote:I don't want a NL though.

Do u disagree with my characterization of his push being gross and slimy?

skitter30 · Mon Jul 08, 2019 11:31 pm

In post 4202, nomnomnom wrote:
In post 4199, skitter30 wrote:
In post 4192, nomnomnom wrote:I don't want a NL though.
Do u disagree with my characterization of his push being gross and slimy?
I don't see it that way. I am a bit worried with the NL obsession but I don't think it's gross and slimy given he has given intention to vote your slot for a while now. How is it slimy?

Over the past several pages he's been repeatedly subtly misunderstanding me in order to push me, and he seems like a smart dude so i dont think he's obtuse enough to repeatedly misunderstand the gist of what someone is saying

He's trying to pick a fight with me when i indicated that i dont want to for non this-game-related reasons, and been twisting what i said to imply/indicate that I'm faking emotions in order to avoid talking to him, which i wouldnt do; and i think it's kinda icky that he's implying that i would.

If you're town here when i flip i want u to reconsider your entire view of the gamestate, esp town!nero, because no offense but your reads have been awful all game and if youre town the things that you've been pushing have been giving scum oppurtunities that they wouldnt have otherwise (me and shoshin, and getting pocketed by the guy that i'm very confident is scum, and getting dp, who i' p confident is town, to rep out because he didnt want to deal with you anymore). If you're town i dont think you're dying because you've been, and are, creating a gamestate conducive to scum

This is absolutely an echo of what you started off day2 with. I, unlike you, can however point to multiple examples of where you've actually done this.

skitter30 · Mon Jul 08, 2019 11:31 pm

In post 4207, Nero Cain wrote:
dayvig:Skitter

I mean really?

skitter30 · Mon Jul 08, 2019 11:32 pm

In post 4209, pisskop wrote:VOTE: skitter

I'm also kinda skeptical that this is a real read, no offense

skitter30 · Mon Jul 08, 2019 11:36 pm

I'm kinda frustrated at what you've done to the gamestate, not trying to be emotionally manilulative but trying go highlight where you're wrong because if you're town that's where the game is going

skitter30 · Mon Jul 08, 2019 11:39 pm

:shrug:

Just reconsider tomorrow

skitter30 · Mon Jul 08, 2019 11:42 pm

I think we fundementally disagree in a lot of places and i dont think it's going to be beneficial to rehash it again

If you do feel like i've emotionally manipulated you, sorry, that wasnt wuite what i was going for so i'll back off. I was more trying to use ideas that i know you resonate with to try to get my point across but i dont think you received it that way and i dont want to be emotionallu manipilative so i'll just leave it here

But: reconsider like everythibg tomorrow, esp town nero

skitter30 · Mon Jul 08, 2019 11:50 pm

Ok

From my pov i strongly disagree about your effects on the gamestate

I dont really want to trigger another guilt-thing, though, sorry, again i want you to reconsider but i dont want to or mean to cause another freak out so i'm just going to drop it

skitter30 · Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:23 am

I wasnt really trying to get across: not fun to play with
If that's what you think i meant, i wasnt

I dont know if i'd say you ruin games either
I would say that you get tunneled and that it's hard for you to break out of the gamestate that you see, even if there is evidence pointing to something else

I wouldn't say that you ruin games; i dont think that's an accurate description of what you do. Even if you mislynch people you didnt ruin games, you just were wrong, it happens

skitter30 · Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:42 am

Again, do u not understand the notion of: i only have the one scumread so i need to re-evaluate my other reads ... ?

And sure, my reads are bad sometimes

skitter30 · Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:44 am

skitter30 (3):

Nero Cain, nomnomnom,
pisskop

(L-2)

Vorkuta (1):

Creature

Saladman27 (1):

Saladman27

Nero Cain (1):

skitter30

No Lynch (1):

Vorkuta

Not Voting (1):

Dunnstral

With

8

alive, it takes

5

to hammer.
Day 3 ends in

(expired on 2019-07-15 08:45:00)

And why would i intentionally be bad as scum

P-edit it makes sense from a burnt-out- dont-have-energy-for-this pov

skitter30 · Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:53 am

In post 4227, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 4223, skitter30 wrote:Again, do u not understand the notion of: i only have the one scumread so i need to re-evaluate my other reads ... ?
ok but why do I have to be lynched before you can do that?

I'm sure you'll say that
I need to see your flip first.

but why?

you already think I'm scum and I've asked you several times earlier who'd be scum upon my town flip.

You don't need mt flip, you just need 2 ML's so trying to push mine today and then push ???? tomorrow makes sense for a scum you.

I'm very confident that you're scum

I'm not trying to get you flipped to give me impetus to re-evaluate the gamestate, i'm trying to get you lynched because i dont think you're town

If i'm scum i could take the significantly easier option of just lynching salad today, like if my goal is to score a muslynch today why dont i do that

I' p sure that these end of day wagons, esp if one is on me, will provide quite a lot of clarity to the gamestate, and i'm going to make sure everyone knows my thoughts the whole way through it

Anyways gotta get to work so later

skitter30 · Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:54 am

In post 4229, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 4201, Nero Cain wrote:but y is it gross an slimey?
Also, Skitter has no strong scum reads so she's prob not moving her vote either.

This is not accuratd

skitter30 · Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:54 am

In post 4231, Nero Cain wrote:I can see it now

oh, Nero flipped town?

Looks like I was wrong about Salad

vote:Salad

And if i'm scum i dont take the easier mislynch first because ...?

skitter30 · Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:55 am

In post 4230, skitter30 wrote:Anyways gotta get to work so later

skitter30 · Tue Jul 09, 2019 1:13 am

I mean if you're town that's exactly what Im trying to do so that seems like a pretty silly complaint to level against me

skitter30 · Tue Jul 09, 2019 1:29 am

In post 4237, Nero Cain wrote:Well, you have to vote somewhere.

but yeah getting off the wagon when it looked like his wagon might go through was

And you are still slightly scumreading him so....?

I'm not 'voting somewhere', which implies that i'm just laying down my vote in any ole random place because i dont know where elesr to put it

I'm voting you cuz i think you're scum

Again if i were scum unvoting him there would be dumb af, it would be prettu easy to ride that to a mislynch and i dont think anybody would scrutinize the vote too mich afterwards

Yes i'm still scumreading him on play for just about evetything except the self-vote, and i think his interactions with urap are partner indicative

I'd vote there again over a wagon on me

And i agree that if he isng today's lynch he ought to be vigged

skitter30 · Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:27 am

In post 4245, Creature wrote:
In post 4115, skitter30 wrote:i'm still p confused why we aren't wagonign nero ... ?
Isn't he out of his scum range?

No idea what his scum range is so idk

skitter30 · Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:28 am

In post 4246, Creature wrote:
In post 4116, skitter30 wrote:i think pk is townie too
What pings town about him?

The refusing to claim bit when he first repped in, and keeping it up when people were pushing him for it; i think scum!him would have just caved and either confirmed or denied that he was a miller at that point

Ths fact that he didnt was bad but not scummy, i think

skitter30 · Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:29 am

In post 4247, Creature wrote:
In post 4118, skitter30 wrote:
In post 4029, pisskop wrote:This looks like unabashed WKing to me. Town or scum, vork was WKed
yeah, i think that points to town!vork - not sure he wk's a partner like this really
Without referring an alignment, how would you describe Vork's play this game?

Awful, and what's the point if this question

skitter30 · Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:30 am

In post 4248, Creature wrote:
In post 4121, skitter30 wrote:
In post 4038, nomnomnom wrote:Urap flipped goon.

Defending a partner could mean they're a scum PR.

That feels like a logical approach. That's also that approach that made me guess urap was a bus mostly and that scums were ready to bus him. And that's why I have doubts about Skitter.
again, if i were scum and wanted to bus urap, this isn't what it would look like
How would it look like?

Significantly better executed and i would not have half-assed it, if i were scum with him i would have been on that wagon so that i couldnt be pushed after his flip

skitter30 · Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:30 am

In post 4249, Creature wrote:
In post 4124, skitter30 wrote:also i think urap was trying to mimic his side of a similar convo we had the last time we were tvt
This is reachy?

No it isnt

skitter30 · Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:31 am

In post 4250, Creature wrote:
In post 4125, skitter30 wrote:i was voting vork but i don't think i was pushing him
What were you doing then?

Keeping my vote on him while i tried to figure out where to push

skitter30 · Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:32 am

In post 4284, Creature wrote:
In post 4279, skitter30 wrote:
In post 4247, Creature wrote:
In post 4118, skitter30 wrote:
In post 4029, pisskop wrote:This looks like unabashed WKing to me. Town or scum, vork was WKed
yeah, i think that points to town!vork - not sure he wk's a partner like this really
Without referring an alignment, how would you describe Vork's play this game?
Awful, and what's the point if this question
was expecting a little more details than that. Maybe I can read Vork if someone describes what's his play this game (if not using the generic towny/scummy).

It's bad, i can't read him because as both alignments he's ridculously scummy and when he's town he's lynchbait and i've never correctly read him and he keeps making bad/dumb pushes that arent going anywhere

skitter30 · Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:33 am

In post 4286, Creature wrote:You look angry for some reason

I'm having a shitty day

skitter30 · Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:36 am

In post 4259, Creature wrote:
In post 4140, skitter30 wrote:
In post 4137, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 4135, skitter30 wrote:p sure all scum is in {you/salad/pk/creature/vork}
didn't you just call them all town?

So basically, I'm still your sole scum read.
i mean i've been saying for like a week that i wanted to lynch you or salad so
Weren't you calling Salad's selfvote town though?

Not really, more that i think if he's scum he wouldnt have done this, which isn't quite the same thing

I do thinkn on play and associatives he's scum, and i also think him not doing, you know, anythibg for three dayphases is scummy, and that he's hiding behind the newbie card

I dont know who his partner would be that would let him seld vote for like four days, that's the bit i' having trouble reconciling

skitter30 · Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:38 am

In post 4273, Creature wrote:
In post 4225, skitter30 wrote:And why would i intentionally be bad as scum
Are you being bad as town this game then?

I disagree that i'm being bad this game, but if i am it's not intentional

skitter30 · Tue Jul 09, 2019 3:39 pm

In post 4294, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 4242, Nero Cain wrote:Why does scum Nero kill Buj? Why does scum Nero push for a no lynch? And no you don't get to use the "scum get a free night kill" b/c thats proven false. Its still the same number of lynches required with a night of extra town info.
this is the third time I've asked this. At what point do I consider it scum just ignoring a question they don't want to answer?

Idk, i acknowledged that it wasnt a great kill if you're scum. Maybe you were setting up a teacher push, maybe you thought he was a pr, idk

And no idea why you think no lynch is a good idea here

skitter30 · Tue Jul 09, 2019 3:41 pm

In post 4295, Nero Cain wrote:I think she's being a hypocrite b/c she also voted all these players but according to her the difference is that "you (Nero) were trying to lynch them."

And then I'm like "Well if you keep voting ppl without the intention to lynch then you are being shat with your vote."

Yep that's a p big difference

Could be i could utilize my vote better, sure

Wrt vork - i think i kept my vote on him for like ... an irl day at the start of phase 1 - i dont feel the need to move my vote super often at that stage of the game, esp if i dont have strong scumreads

skitter30 · Tue Jul 09, 2019 3:55 pm

In post 4300, Nero Cain wrote:I mean, ok you're right. But I mean you keep voting for people that you never want to lynch just looks like inside information. Also "Nero wanted to lynch players that flipped town!" is super manipulative and is very surface level.

No it means that i was working on sorting them and my read changed over time

I really dont remember what i thought about vork offhand, it was a month and 4000 posts ago

If you want me to talk about the mindset behind a specific post quote it and ill talk about it

skitter30 · Tue Jul 09, 2019 4:00 pm

Nero if you think i'm scum the point of this conversation is ... ?

At a certain point day1 i'm p sure i tow read you

skitter30 · Tue Jul 09, 2019 4:13 pm

Again, what's the point of this conversation?

skitter30 · Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:29 am

I would vote salad too today

skitter30 · Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:36 am

I think dunn is town but i'm doubting pk rn