Mini Normal 2086 - Pastries! GAME OVER!

[Pine]

Bagels are my go-to as well.

[Pine]

As long as you’re pronouncing bag ulls we good

HERESY

BAY GULLS 4 LYFE

VOTE: Flavor Leaf

[Pine]

Cakes with cherries or strawberries are better than with chocolate. Debate me.

I like cherries and strawberries. They do not belong in cakes.

Also hi!

[Pine]

It’s okay, we’ll just NK you

[Pine]

It’s okay, we’ll just NK you

how far I must have fallen when Pine won't even NK me

Can't shoot your scumbuddy.

[Pine]

Pine is town.

Obviously.

[Pine]

@Mod: As much as I'm loving the nicknames, and the fact that you gave me an awesome one even before I had a chance to request one likely far inferior, they make Vote Counts harder to read. Could you use our actual usernames? Or at least have a spoilered "boring" version? VCA later on will be quite a bit simpler if I don't have to check back to the first page to remember who some people are. It may also confuse the programming of the scumputer.

Alrighty I’ll give you a spoilered boring version. I don’t think the nicknames are really that much of a stretch off people’s actual names. I feel like they’re all very easy to understand. But hey, I’m not everyone, so a boring version there will be

[Pine]

Proposed nickname for the worst: "the worst at Mafia and life"

Doesn’t really roll off the tongue does it?

[Pine]

I wish I was scum with skygazer.

Same

[Pine]

Instead I got stuck with stupid kuribo.

At least we'll win.

[Pine]

It is. Clearly DEB is a DGB alt.

HOW DID WE NOT SEE IT BEFORE

IS THERE A DAB, DBB, DCB, DDB, and DFB OUT THERE?

[Pine]

It is. Clearly DEB is a DGB alt.

HOW DID WE NOT SEE IT BEFORE

IS THERE A DAB, DBB, DCB, DDB, and DFB OUT THERE?

Did you discuss this post with the scum team or did you come up with this all by yourself?

Oh please. Kuribo isn't that clever, and TW is too naive. That's all tree, baby.

I think that they make it easier for the review board, skittles, players and mods to understand and spec, but now the gulf between even tame theme games and normals is huge, and even opens cant help bridge that.

A+ commentary

@DGB Serial Killers are no longer considered Normal in Minis. Pansies.

[Pine]

@DGB

Here is Implosion's ISO in the "Changes to Normal games" thread. It's all worth a skim, but the first two or three posts are the most important.

[Pine]

Thanks! I'm glad they took out multiball.

I'm not

[Pine]

Serial Killers are no longer considered Normal in Minis. Pansies.

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What historically epic bad luck that Gamma drew Serial Killer under those circumstances

You do realize I was joking now right

#realtalk - This feels off. Why bother telling us something we already know? Methinks the Gamma doth protest too much.

VOTE: Gamma

[Pine]

Thank you for the spoilered boring version.

[Pine]

fun billboards ive passed so far:

"??? cemetery: dignified. affordable" in a cheesy font
"jesus recycles people. we recycle cars"

Talking about "not the game" is such a nervous scum habit. You're letting your buddies down with this bad play.

Unfortunately, shitposting is pretty standard fare these days, and is usually regarded as not alignment-indicative.

Where this breaks down is when someone is doing almost nothing BUT shitposting, and then you can come at them from an angle of active lurking and doing nothing productive. A lot of people will carry on parallel conversations while also scumhunting.

Speaking of, I am now on semi-V/LA through August, as the summer camp season has started. I have brand new desk space in the office, but I'm out doing fun stuff more than at my computer.

id like to reiterate: the worst lurking this through is absolutely scum indicative

he's usually very active as town in the early game and this is a fun and good playerlist and considering the collective skill of this playerlist and the fact that i can read him well i can absolutely see scum-him being afraid to post here

This is solid, but probably needs to be corroborated. I haven't seen TW around the site much at all the last couple of days, could be just a natural dip.

[Pine]

It’s really not. I’m with you in spirit on this - I prefer to keep my off topic chatter either brief or in the social threads. It is no longer axiomatic, however, that off-topic = scum. In practice you’ll find it’s not any kind of an accurate tell.

[Pine]

Fuck, Pine might be scum too; his ISO has no game related content besides talking to DGB about shifting site meta, sheeping DGB onto Gamma, and acting kind of fence-sitty about my tw vote reasoning.

He's also coming across as kind of buddying towards DGB with the sheep and their interactions.

Pine did you roll scum?

I in fact did not. We’re just getting staff training started at camp and I’m a little checked out. I’ll get serious as we get going.

As for “sheeping,” my vote on Gamma is real and unrelated to DGB. She’s screwing around with high-caliber RVS stuff, I’ve got a real vote down.

[Pine]

^That’s TWTown

[Pine]

So the duck can spell kwaq right?

I think I'm ready to get into this game tonight.

[Pine]

dgb pops in calls the fact I explained why I haven't been onsite scummy for some utterly lacklustre tell when I did it under obvious duress, shades me while ignoring the game-relevant things I am doing, then pops back out.....

Is anyone townreading this? => can they explain why at like a game related level? (sorry kuribo, your defence didn't do a lot for me)

I’m pretty sure DGB is Town. Adapt.

[Pine]

I think flippy should catch up tho.

yeah I probably should. its not too long

I kind of want to lynch you for this post, but it feels petty to ding you for being petty about not reading when I’m barely keeping up.

[Pine]

VOTE: pisskop

[Pine]

icher/pine for the win

You know Ircher isn’t in this game, right? Pine isn’t really either.

Yeet

[Pine]

We’re doin a thing

Shush

[Pine]

I can give Nips a pass because I like his moxie

Kuribo is town.

I agree with at least the latter statement, the former is only a D1 pass.

I can give Nips a pass because I like his moxie

Worst I don't care for but it's in line with what I'm already expecting his contribution to be; ie; illegible noise

Pine I expect better of though I probably shouldn't

Pffffffft

That's fair. TW's right though, I'm a mid-to-late-game player, especially these days. I hate D1 with a passion.

[Pine]

I agree with at least the latter statement, the former is only a D1 pass.

I dunno if I have to say this but all passes are subject to revocation at any time as a result of scummy actions, new reads, fever dreams, the layout of the chicken bones, etc

Indubitably, though I much prefer the reading of tea leaves to bones. I'm oldschool like that.

PE: It wouldn't be kuribo without wildly exaggerated, grandiose reads.

[Pine]

Shit, this is going to be one of those games where I end up Townhunting and PoEing, isn't it? I usually lose that game to paranoia.

[Pine]

Pretentious (Replaced in for Flavor Leaf AKA Bland Branch)

Emperor flippyNips AKA Iced Nipz*

DrippingGoofball

Gamma Emerald AKA G Emerald
Skygazer AKA Bigazer

the worst AKA Daffy

Pine AKA King of the Forest

kuribo

pisskop AKA Hershey Kisskop

That's where I'm at. I'd kind of like to see where this pisskop wagon goes. I joined for the lulz but I wasn't a fan of the reaction.

[Pine]

We need nicknames for the elder scummers

[Pine]

why is the worst crossed off?

For being Town.

Duh.

[Pine]

which instrument do you wanna play

Electric fiddle

[Pine]

Consider my vote on Nips. Just want everyone to check in. GG presumed

[Pine]

VOTE: pisskop

you might be thinking to yourself, "what's with this dude dropping a naked vote like that" then say "hey! why'd you drop a naked vote like that?"
&
I might answer back saying "nunya" or "mind ya business" or "ehh just kinda felt like doing something, care to join or oppose?"

In retrospect, this looks bussing af

[Pine]

Hmmm

Okay, Nips is Town. No longer sold on Pretentious, that kind of test is easy to fake, but still above the water line

I’m on board for Espresso. I was suspicious of them D1 too

PE: Nah fren, TW is town

[Pine]

Sorry, I think I conflated games here. Mixing up different reads.

[Pine]

Can I be given the courtesy to reread and post reads before I'm hammered? I have tomorrow off;

Sure. I need a reread too.

[Pine]

Sorry, I think I conflated games here. Mixing up different reads.

I figured out where I was mixing stuff up. etc etc

[Pine]

2/27/11 bitches

This is a relatively old game

[Pine]

Yeah, Skyscum over the last page. The Pretentious gambit pretty much PoEs it down to her anyway

[Pine]

lol ok lynch me then lynch pine ig

Kk <3

VOTE: Bigazer

[Pine]

would anyone be opposed to me selfhammering so town doesnt do something stupid like switch over to a pr and out them and then lynch me tomorrow anyways

pedit ;;;; um or you can help narrow the pool i guess

I insist.

[Pine]

Kuribo’s also mainly been focused on making sure we know that this is DGB’s town game, which I feel isn’t actually for us. It’s for DGB.
Scum Kuribo likely sees DGB as their most likely threat, so they have to keep them in check.

I imagine an eventual night kill was in the works for an I told you so moment.


Gamma also lightweight pushed DGB.

There’s some merit to this

[Pine]

Kuribo was Town, and that replace-out was Towny as shit.

Boon, chill.

Kuribo...my man...one person being suspicious of you expressly because he respects your game to think you could pull off a double- or triple-level deception isn’t a personal attack. It’s a damn compliment. I enjoyed playing with the king again, even if I was sorely tempted to game throw and ML you just to bump that 2 to a 3.

Nah, I think we were right the first time with Skygazer, who has gone silent now that the pressure’s off.

[Pine]

Oh my bad. VT

[Pine]

Had to look up the pastry. I’m a Baba au Rhum

[Pine]

"gone silent"

or i couldve been, you know, uh, sleeping

Preposterous.

But in all seriousness, while you've been posting, your degree of content has gone limp since the pressure's been off.

Sorry girl. You scummy.

[Pine]

We aren't lynching DGB.

Scum roleblocker Occam's Razors everything you said out of the water

[Pine]

Wait no, the multitasking thing made sense. I keep thinking we have two scum to find. Too accustomed to 10:3.

[Pine]

Still not lynching DGB.

[Pine]

Hold up, let’s be clear - the fruit is meaningless. A scum fruit vendor and a Town fruit vendor play the same. It proves nothing but her role, and says nothing about alignment. Her *play* says Town.

You’re way too eager for PRs to solve this for you. Use your damn brain.

[Pine]

while shes town for day play reasons, a fruit and a kill on the same night literally clears her barring the whole multitasking thing

That exact caveat renders your whole point meaningless. We don’t know whether multitasking is in play. If it is, it’s a false positive.

Seriously, the fruit vendor is clearly a red herring

[Pine]

Nah. Pretentious is conspiracy theorizing, but he doesn’t accuse 2/3 the players not himself and spin wild unsubstantiated theories as scum.

He’s wrong, and laughably so, but I think Town.

Lynch Skygazer with me.

Please?

[Pine]

Seriously.

Bigazer lynch or bust, my friends.

[Pine]

I have a feeling this “be a douche” thing is a gimmick, so allow me to provide negative feedback:

Fucking knock it off

[Pine]

There is just no way you’re the kill. You’re too likely a mislynch target.

Nah, kill is either DGB or myself. She’s shown resilience against a serious wagon attempt, and rn no one is SRing me. Outside chance Nips or EP takes it to obfuscate things. You’re like...fifth or sixth on the hit list

[Pine]

Your “mechanical solve” is nothing of the kind. There’s too much unwarranted assumption and baseless setup solving.

Occam’s Razor says DGB is and did exactly what she said.

PE: Yeah I’m fucking done with this argument. Boon, you’re a good player, but you’re wrong here and whatever gimmick you’re trying won’t let you admit it.

[Pine]

I literally just called you Town ten minutes ago, you paranoid shrubbery

[Pine]

Or there’s a scum roleblocker

Or kuribo/Egix did receive the fruit

Or a few more obscure things

However, your attacking of everyone despite insisting on the aforementioned dichotomy makes you a hazard to the game, and I am seriously considering a for-real policy vote on you.

That said, for how Towny kuribo was, Egix has indeed been super sketchy

[Pine]

My big holdup is the ragequit. I don’t know that scum!kuribo does that with one vote on him

[Pine]

Your assumption that multitasking doesn’t exist is a flaw you’ve never addressed.

[Pine]

Your assumption that multitasking doesn’t exist is a flaw you’ve never addressed.

There always used to be "multi-tasking" - did that change?

Multitasking is no longer Normal. However, at the mod's option, a PR may have multitasking as a modifier. I *think*, but would have to check, that they can also rule that the last scum is automatically multitasking, but that would need to be in the ruleset (it's not).

The presence of a multitasking modifier renders Pretentious's entire case speculative.

[Pine]

Awww fuck Boon’s going to be insufferable about this

Begrudging congrats.

[Pine]

Noooo

Play more Sky

[Pine]

Ummm

Knowing about the loyal modifier would have changed everything. Loyal fruit vendor is basically a gimmick cop

[Pine]

Ummm

Knowing about the loyal modifier would have changed everything. Loyal fruit vendor is basically a gimmick cop

Well what should I have done
We still won anyway

You? Nothing. DGB ought to have claimed it.

She's forgiven, though, on account of being marvelous.

Also, Kuribo really replaces out because I correctly scum read him and pushed him...?

That threw me off too.

When you think about it there isn't much difference between "Get on my level" and "FOLLOW ME OR DIE YOU PIG FUCKING INBRED FREAKS"

Just that the latter is bannable

I lol'd.

But yeah, please don't get banned. Either of you. Friction this game aside, I enjoy playing with you.

[Pine]

Btw Pretentious you did a real shitty job of keeping your "secret" alt secret

Yeah that's why I didn't even acknowledge it

[Pine]

wow in hindsight ive sure been useless at mafia lately huh

We all have those moments. I'm super erratic as Town. I was a sheepy follower this game, but scum-seeking missile in Hall of Mirrors just a couple of weeks ago. It happens.