In post 4658, nomnomnom wrote:If Nero is scum that means you and him spent the entire game setting up a thorough and long scumtheater taking up a shit load of pages and I guess I'll admit defeat if this is REALLY what happened.In post 4655, skitter30 wrote:In post 4643, nomnomnom wrote:With Nero's claim, Skitter is pretty much conftown in every scenario so that's not the problem.In post 4641, Creature wrote:doesn't exclude Vork and Nero scumteam.In post 4639, nomnomnom wrote:This is pretty much a Vork vs Nero.In post 4636, Creature wrote:I just wanna lynch Vork today tbh
Why would you lynch Vork over Nero?
Also, I have a PoE of Nero, Vork and skitter and I doubt Nero and skitter are scum together.
The problem is that if we lynch wrong, the game ends.
This is why you are asked to read a game
Why am i conftown here?
If Nero is town that means that from a setup perspective it literally is impossible that you can be scum because that would mean the scumteam consists of 2 goons and 1 encryptor vs all these power roles.
So his claim is basically making you conftown. And given he hasn't realized that, it makes me think that scum!Nero perhaps didn't think that claim through.
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fuck obviously I fuck up the quoting.In post 4658, nomnomnom wrote:
If Nero is scum that means you and him spent the entire game setting up a thorough and long scumtheater taking up a shit load of pages and I guess I'll admit defeat if this is REALLY what happened.In post 4655, skitter30 wrote:
Why am i conftown here?In post 4643, nomnomnom wrote:
With Nero's claim, Skitter is pretty much conftown in every scenario so that's not the problem.In post 4641, Creature wrote:
doesn't exclude Vork and Nero scumteam.In post 4639, nomnomnom wrote:
This is pretty much a Vork vs Nero.In post 4636, Creature wrote:I just wanna lynch Vork today tbh
Why would you lynch Vork over Nero?
Also, I have a PoE of Nero, Vork and skitter and I doubt Nero and skitter are scum together.
The problem is that if we lynch wrong, the game ends.
If Nero is town that means that from a setup perspective it literally is impossible that you can be scum because that would mean the scumteam consists of 2 goons and 1 encryptor vs all these power roles.
So his claim is basically making you conftown. And given he hasn't realized that, it makes me think that scum!Nero perhaps didn't think that claim through.-
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In post 5163, pisskop wrote:Unless nero returns an actual 'vanilla town' role on skitter, she isnt clear.
Nero. did you recieve an explicit 'vanilla town' role on skitter? or just some vague crap?
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Why are you always excluding yourself from the "investigative shots" lolIn post 5164, Gollum wrote:Nom, between you an Dunn there are only 3 shots. That's not that many-
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In post 5168, nomnomnom wrote:
Why are you always excluding yourself from the "investigative shots" lolIn post 5164, Gollum wrote:Nom, between you an Dunn there are only 3 shots. That's not that many-
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Then how did you know that Nero had a guilty on Vork?In post 5178, pisskop wrote:I didnt check out everyones claims. so idk what they claimed.-
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There's a doc with it. And there's a vig shot.In post 5179, Gollum wrote:
You are pushing me as a scum rolecop, yes? If I was a scum rolecop that would mean town only has 3 shots. Do you feel like that's enough?In post 5168, nomnomnom wrote:
Why are you always excluding yourself from the "investigative shots" lolIn post 5164, Gollum wrote:Nom, between you an Dunn there are only 3 shots. That's not that many
I think that could be enough, and that would justify a scum having a rolecop, quite possibly.-
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Why would you search for the word encryptor if you are not aware of people's claims?In post 5182, pisskop wrote:
By searching for the word 'encryptor'? Not a very common phrase in most games.In post 5180, nomnomnom wrote:
Then how did you know that Nero had a guilty on Vork?In post 5178, pisskop wrote:I didnt check out everyones claims. so idk what they claimed.-
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Maybe you need 100+ more games to understand that skitter literally cannot be scum and to be able to read a simple post :/In post 5181, pisskop wrote:Id trust myself, and my 100+ games and double digits modded games and et al first.-
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You said you were not aware of people's claims but you entered the claim fully aware of Nero's guilty on Vork.In post 5187, pisskop wrote:like nero has dropped that cue how many times thus far?
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In post 5196, pisskop wrote:
if you say so.In post 5194, nomnomnom wrote:and you did not realize the implications of that rolecop claim.
Its starting to sound like you dont know what youre doing yourself.YOU ARE TRYING TO PUSH A LITERAL CONFTOWN AS SCUM IN THIS GAME
SAY THAT AGAIN
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In post 3876, pisskop wrote:daily reminder that vork is scum.
Any proposed plan needs to include scumvork getting lynchedIn post 3950, pisskop wrote:Vork is scumIn post 4363, pisskop wrote:
Daily reminder that this is scumIn post 4362, Vorkuta wrote:back off them on D1 so....In post 4381, pisskop wrote:daily reminder that that is scum ^^^In post 4395, pisskop wrote:Sounds like you too are reading vork and skitter as the team.
come and join us. Unless you think the unpresent dunn is scumIn post 4428, pisskop wrote:Yea I still think its one of skitter/vork/salad-
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Tell me again how the team is 2 goons and an encryptor vs 2 joats (3 invest shots 1 vig shot) 1 rolecop 1 full doc 1 2-shot doc (miller??).In post 5205, pisskop wrote:
SHE ISNT CONFIRMED YOU DUMB SHIT.In post 5202, nomnomnom wrote:In post 5196, pisskop wrote:
if you say so.In post 5194, nomnomnom wrote:and you did not realize the implications of that rolecop claim.
Its starting to sound like you dont know what youre doing yourself.YOU ARE TRYING TO PUSH A LITERAL CONFTOWN AS SCUM IN THIS GAME
SAY THAT AGAIN
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Learn to read and that problem is easily avoided since I quoted my explanation post, and posted at least 20 times to Nero.In post 5227, pisskop wrote:Youre refusing to listen to a credible claim and still havent really clarified why skit is confed-
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Fuck off.In post 5233, pisskop wrote:bye.
Maybe you have a parent in the next room that can help out.
Or maybe a pedestrian walking by can read this and help you see the obvious.-
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You've been literally typing the EXACT SAME REASONING, you and PK!!! My brain is l-iterally meltingIn post 5241, Gollum wrote:Nom, you are pushing me and pk as a team b/c he's echoing me. Vork is echoing you. So y is that not scummy of him and y r u not parinoid?-
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Even if you are all town I refuse to end today because of your dumb ass not understanding that Skitter is conftown and you saying you're going to vote her tomorrow, for christ sake.In post 5277, pisskop wrote:Alright, creature agrees with my analysis of vork.
nom. we need you to weigh in and join the rest of town
And even then I think you're just blatantly lying and your intention is the same as Nero's, and you're trying to expediate today with the exact same garbage logic as Nero.-
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Like this is pretty much the reason I am voting Nero right now. I just think this is a massive scum fail where the scums decided to try to push a guilty on vork with a Skitter partner and massively failed to recognize that this analysis would confirm Skitter as town. The fact that the two of you have repeated THE EXACT SAME THING THAT WAS PROVEN IMPOSSIBLE is proof that there's something deeply wrong on top of your claimed roles. Plus you're playing with your role claim again like it doesn't matter when it's the crux of the conversation.
Vork has been acting scummy yes. And his sudden analysis of that doc shot is ????. But like... the mechanical solve.-
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Okay, for the last fucking time.In post 5300, pisskop wrote:
how?In post 5299, nomnomnom wrote:Skitter is conftown
please explain this to me. i dont see it.
Nero claimed to have a Vanilla result on Skitter night 2.
Nero claimed to have an Encryptor result on Vork night 3.
We have had urap flipping goon as a result of our day 2 lynch.
We have 2 claimed JOATs, a rolecop and a doc at the very least excluding your role since you think it's funny obscuring it.
A urap-vork-skitter team would mean the team is a team consisting of 2 goons, and an encryptor. Those claimed roles has a follow-the-cop built in it. As I said before, the moment a town rolecop checks a doctor, they claim there is a doctor this game, and they can just check the entire town and that's pretty much a town win right there.
You have claimed to have 100+ games played. I know that I've seen some people complain on site that the games were getting increasingly more town sided. But does that ever seem possible to you?
If not, then Skitter is conftown.
There. Please do not make me repeat this again as it's quite important for the discourse of today and the analysis of Nero.-
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I also know that you think that Vork is scum through and through and he also was my preferred lynch on day 1 and no one wanted to push there at all, and it was for the same reasons you highlighted. I was told that it was his style of play.
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It's not really about the guilties though. A rolecop would be able to check the wholetown and confirm claim names. That's very powerful.In post 5307, pisskop wrote:
they dont though?In post 5305, nomnomnom wrote:A urap-vork-skitter team would mean the team is a team consisting of 2 goons, and an encryptor. Those claimed roles has a follow-the-cop built in it. As I said before, the moment a town rolecop checks a doctor, they claim there is a doctor this game, and they can just check the entire town and that's pretty much a town win right there.
We have a rolecop who only guilties on one of the three scum?
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Nero's checks don't make sense as a town rolecop either. You would have been checked and I would have been checked, at the very least. There was actually no reason not to ever check me or you as it would make use of a rolecop optimally especially since you were obscuring your role on purpose, and that he had the feeling I was a town invest from my play. Salad's check on day 1 is absurd and nonsensical considering what happened on day 1, so even if we go with the theory that "I am a cop I check scums!" then the main contender to be checked was URAP at the time.
There are a lot of things that make me thing this setup has a scum rolecop.-
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I think actually that this claim makes sense for something like a x-shot scum rolecop, and that is why he went forward with vanilla check and an encryptor guilty, because it's the least risky choice to make. I am fairly sure he must have checked me throughout the game and decided not to nightkill me because my role is not that big of a threat.-
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you're missing my joat claimIn post 5315, pisskop wrote:
An encryptor is very powerful.In post 5310, nomnomnom wrote:does it make sense to you that this is a town rolecop? Do you understand why I am voting Nero here?
We have a
Am i understanding this right?
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In post 4511, Nero Cain wrote:
you don't have youtube?!?In post 4508, Vorkuta wrote:-We do not have such music in motherlandIn post 4512, Nero Cain wrote:
me? I get neither or those.In post 4510, Vorkuta wrote:Anyway- obligatory did you get a *NO RESULT* or *DID NOT DO SHIT* PM for your shots?In post 4654, Nero Cain wrote:
Also, he's claiming vanilla to conform with the "went nowhere claim" but he is not.In post 4501, Vorkuta wrote:Vork- Ice Ice bab
Also, the distinction between claiming vanilla and not vanilla town seems like scum that knows he's not town.In post 4692, Nero Cain wrote:
look, I found noms echoIn post 4690, Vorkuta wrote:
Because my """"partner"""" would be out roleblocking/strong-manning/or otherwise PR-ing.In post 4687, Nero Cain wrote:why you think Vork would be the one to make a kill.
The fact that you didn't think this through is very vexing...In post 4700, Nero Cain wrote:
encryptor can be either alignment. It wasn't a hard guilty until you fake claimed vanilla.In post 4695, Vorkuta wrote:lso I am 99% sure that town!PR nero outs such a hard guilty in his VERY FIRST POST and VOTE OF THE DAY, and not.... 'slow-draw mass claim' which we're obviously going to be doing anyway.
checkmateIn post 4787, Nero Cain wrote:
I'm being asked to do busywork. YAY! lemme go find it b4 Skitter claims that I'm avoiding.In post 4783, Vorkuta wrote:@Nero- where are your D2 skitter result crumbs that were allegedly BEFORE the claim?-
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In post 4447, Nero Cain wrote:first thing first is that I'm a (likely the) town investigation role so that means I full claim last. Then I'm going to talk about things.
Claiming he always knew I was some kind of invest then claiming he's the only town invest left?????In post 4498, Nero Cain wrote:yeah, I saw you hinting and then since I knew I was one I knew she was bullshitting. Kinda sad that she put herself above the town but maybe it all worked out, in the end, b/c it helps kinda "prove" my role.
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Actually he really should have and I have a post that proves why.In post 5345, pisskop wrote:
makes some sense actually. i dont think he should have auto-checked me.In post 4544, skitter30 wrote:Why the fuck do you .... not claim the sketchy miller claim, wtfIn post 41, Nero Cain wrote:
sure they are. We all started out as newbs. Alts can't be in newbie games as anything other than IC or SE though.In post 38, teacher wrote:just confirming you know alts aren’t allowed to be newbs.
let's kill that fake miller claim.
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1. Nero first thought that Cinn's miller claim was bullshit and that's where he voted first. You are a rolecop and you think a miller claim is bullshit. Do you not check there night 1? Especially when the slot says "I am a miller but also something else and you guys shall never know!!!"?In post 5354, pisskop wrote:In post 4558, nomnomnom wrote:I also have a strong feeling that you would have checked either me or Shoshin after that day 1 too.
I wasnt here, but why?In post 5349, nomnomnom wrote:Like that night 1 check should have been you or me from the way he phrased it. That salad check is bullshit. I think this is scum that doesn't want to confirm anyone as town if he was to flip today.
2. Nero said that my push on Shoshin day 1 was indicative of me being town invest and that shoshin was bullshitting. In that scenario, don't you think that, as a rolecop, you check either me or Shoshin? Even if you believe I am town then why not check Shoshin to see if, indeed, as you suspect, she is not a cop as she was claiming?
These three checks are infinitely better than a salad check, which makes absolutely no sense in the context of how d1 unfolded.-
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I agree, but that situation did not call for that check.
I'd understand being so confident in the fact I was right in the 1v1 with Shoshin and letting your confidence check somewhere else but not checking you night 1 when you suspect the slot lying and you are a rolecop is not a town rolecop thought process. I believe that Salad check is bullshit.
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