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Post Post #5329 (isolation #400) » Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:43 am

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Ok I swear he's ignoring me

I compiled all the claims like 20 pages ago ffs
and he still hasn't responded to me at all
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Post Post #5654 (isolation #401) » Fri Jul 19, 2019 3:20 pm

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Stop fearmongering and interfereing with our hunt for your partner nero
Still leaning creature based on activity, doc-shot hypoclaiming, and NC's reaction to things
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Post Post #5657 (isolation #402) » Fri Jul 19, 2019 3:27 pm

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In post 5252, Vorkuta wrote:Holy shit it's NC and CREATURE

Pisskop is town.
While buying all of these coincidences is pretty damn hard, pisskop also has 2 doctor shots.
He's intentionally not telling us whether he used/hasn't used the shots to either save (from his POV) town!NC and/or playing the WIFOM game.
As obstinate and annoying as tgat slot is to deal with, I genuinely think he's doing the most town thing he can be doing from his POV
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Post Post #5660 (isolation #403) » Fri Jul 19, 2019 3:30 pm

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"ppl" = me
but sure, spin the narrative in as many ways as you'd like to
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Post Post #5662 (isolation #404) » Fri Jul 19, 2019 3:31 pm

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Read NC's play.

EVERYTHING he's said comes from a position of "fuck you, this game ENDS TODAY"
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Post Post #5665 (isolation #405) » Fri Jul 19, 2019 3:34 pm

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In post 5661, nomnomnom wrote:Guy literally wants to NL in the worst position to NL and is supposed to be scumreading you but doesn't even vote you. How can you read that as townie at all?
We're split 50/50 and a vote won't go through today.
With a NL, Tomorrow, 1-side gets a majority (3:2) and from his PoV, it's skitter (it's actually creature, but k)
He's playing for 2:1 LyLo with a "BS~but not really BS~ or is it BS" doc hypoclaim with which he might actually save or deter an NC NK.

He's doing the towniest things possible, except his intentions and reads are in the wrong place :(
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Post Post #5666 (isolation #406) » Fri Jul 19, 2019 3:35 pm

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In post 5663, nomnomnom wrote:I am asking you about PK.
Don't dodge the question.
Mobile posting is hard
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Post Post #5667 (isolation #407) » Fri Jul 19, 2019 3:36 pm

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In post 5664, Gollum wrote:But this game doesn't end with your flip vork
:facepalm:
can you stop it with such cheap blows?

The game ends in your favor on my green flip and you fucking know it.
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Post Post #5669 (isolation #408) » Fri Jul 19, 2019 3:37 pm

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Wait hang on

D4: Vork flip = 3:2
N4: Pisskop's protective = 3:2
D5: 3:2 Lylo

huhhhhhhh
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Post Post #5672 (isolation #409) » Fri Jul 19, 2019 3:39 pm

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Was that a perspective slip? @NC :P

As for creature- really?
You guys are both decent players to stage just enough drama to make an impression but just short of making sure it doesn't go through.

His play more closely resembles scum!creature play IMHO, and by basic PoE it has to be one if pk or creature tomorrow.
ALSO YOU KEEP FORGETTING THAT DETECTIVE PIKACHU WAS IN THIS GAME.
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Post Post #5674 (isolation #410) » Fri Jul 19, 2019 3:44 pm

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In post 5670, nomnomnom wrote:I think we have a very different definition of townie
I mean so does half of this playerbase
In post 5671, nomnomnom wrote:PK has no docs shot dude
But can you say that with absolute fucking certainty
and does scum know it?

pisskop's POV

Vork "red flip" = EoD4 4:1
NC Protection = N4 4:1 OR NC "deterred" = N4 3:1
D5 = (3 or 4) :1 with NC remaining in the game as conf!town
In post 5670, nomnomnom wrote:Do you have anything indicating Nero-Creature even?
I have a bunch of things indicating scum!Creature, but not explicitly scum!Creature WITH scum!NC
but a bunch of things with scum!NC and scum!pika
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Post Post #5677 (isolation #411) » Fri Jul 19, 2019 3:51 pm

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Because I didn't recognize his play back then
My scum case on DP back then was solid enough, and I thought his hypoclaims were good and towny.

NOW
IN LIGHT OF THE NEW INFORMATION THAT NC IS CONF!SCUM
I see new things in them
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Post Post #5678 (isolation #412) » Fri Jul 19, 2019 3:55 pm

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Like @nom- another thing.

Pisskop went last in the claim order and knows that he wasn't interacted with in anyway.
The guy could literally claim https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... Of_Its_Ass as either alignment and it doesn't fucking matter.

He's trying to make the best of what he has.
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Post Post #5679 (isolation #413) » Fri Jul 19, 2019 3:56 pm

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In post 5676, Gollum wrote:In fact I pushed dp (before he even pushed back on me) and you very much defended him
Reread this

I defended him because I thought he was a TPR.
Now he's just your scumPR (either your encryptor, or dedicated anti 'follow-the-cop' wrench)
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Post Post #5681 (isolation #414) » Fri Jul 19, 2019 4:01 pm

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In post 5674, Vorkuta wrote:
In post 5670, nomnomnom wrote:I think we have a very different definition of townie
I mean so does half of this playerbase
In post 5671, nomnomnom wrote:PK has no docs shot dude
But can you say that with absolute fucking certainty
and does scum know it?

pisskop's POV

Vork "red flip" = EoD4 4:1
NC Protection = N4 4:1 OR NC "deterred" = N4 3:1
D5 = (3 or 4) :1 with NC remaining in the game as conf!town
In post 5670, nomnomnom wrote:Do you have anything indicating Nero-Creature even?
I have a bunch of things indicating scum!Creature, but not explicitly scum!Creature WITH scum!NC
but a bunch of things with scum!NC and scum!pika
So you can go and defend your partner?
I'll do it tomorrow after you flip read and creature physically can't get away with lurking
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Post Post #5682 (isolation #415) » Fri Jul 19, 2019 4:02 pm

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Accidentally oopsied the quote
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Post Post #5684 (isolation #416) » Fri Jul 19, 2019 4:05 pm

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In post 5677, Vorkuta wrote:then was solid
wasn't


Motherfuck phoneposting is hard
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Post Post #5685 (isolation #417) » Fri Jul 19, 2019 4:07 pm

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Like come on- read context of the sentence please.
Then again this is "anything as long as vork hangs"
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Post Post #5688 (isolation #418) » Fri Jul 19, 2019 4:53 pm

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In post 5684, Vorkuta wrote:
In post 5677, Vorkuta wrote:then was solid
wasn't


Motherfuck phoneposting is hard
It was a typo and you'd see/know it if you were playing in good faith and not using every shady trick in the book to ensure that the game ends today period.
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Post Post #5691 (isolation #419) » Fri Jul 19, 2019 6:38 pm

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In post 5689, Gollum wrote:Nothing is stopping you from talking about dp/creature today and you're "I'll do it tomorrow" is :/
He's your fucking scumpartner.
There's literally no point in talking to you about him because you'll have an answer/explanation/defense for EVERY accusation I may come up with and throw at you.
It's going to be like arguing with a wall and will only serve to clog the thread up.

If you'll wait until I have PC access later tonight so I can do multi-quotes with ease then I'll indulge you, but you're picking the battles that result in the least amount of work necessary for you
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Post Post #5694 (isolation #420) » Fri Jul 19, 2019 6:53 pm

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In post 5597, nomnomnom wrote:I see where you're going at actually. Reviewers and all are the same and the design of that game is equally absurd if not more.
UNVOTE:
Am I the stupid one here??
In post 5675, Gollum wrote:
Nero Cain (1):
Vorkuta
Vorkuta (1):
Nero Cain

No Lynch (1):
pisskop

Not Voting (3):
skitter30, Creature, nomnomnom

With
6
alive, it takes
4
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Day 4 ends in
(expired on 2019-07-30 21:10:00)
Why was pika scum, I don't remember you ever pushing him
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need to think
Imaginary vote is imaginary
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Post Post #5696 (isolation #421) » Fri Jul 19, 2019 6:57 pm

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DP's ISO is 70% "Nero is bad vote Nero guys", but I think it's all written WITHOUT a hard intention for it to go through, or the knowledge that a nero push won't go through.
Like they in scum!PT have decided "hey, let's put on a bit of theater and distance each other", but the DP left and Nero wanted to "start over" with Creature.
Upon a reread of pika's wall posts directed @NC, they feel slightly forced and... "writing for the sake of writing"

It was convincing if I DIDN'T KNOW FOR A FACT that NC was scum.
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Post Post #5697 (isolation #422) » Fri Jul 19, 2019 6:58 pm

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The fact that Creature is "kind of" under the impression that it's a Vork & NC team is hilarious and slightly telling.
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Post Post #5702 (isolation #423) » Fri Jul 19, 2019 9:10 pm

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In post 5698, Gollum wrote:I may be the one asking but you aren't trying to convince skitter and nom.
Nom is the only one asking and I'll get to that when I have computer access
In post 5699, Gollum wrote:Lo @ vork confirming the existence of an encryptor
In post 4717, Vorkuta wrote:but I'm trying to understand how and who came up with "encryptor"
My conclusion was that NC or his partner is actual encryptor and they decided to use that as a fake guilty because... you know... best lies are the ones with a dose of truth in them
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Post Post #5703 (isolation #424) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 4:31 am

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CTRL + F "DP" in nero's ISO
Spoiler:
In post 210, Nero Cain wrote:DP is also not a bad vote.
In post 216, Nero Cain wrote:kinda feel like scum are

urap
teacher
dp
In post 265, Nero Cain wrote:
I'm like really lazy and I don't want to go back and quote multiple VC's although it'll prob prove my point better.

So I started the game scum reading urap. (yes, my cinnabunny push was fake and I just wanted to see what happened.)

For awhile teacher and urap were cross voting and sitting on each other with urap only getting off to delay OMGUS his voter.

My initial response was "these guys are scum together"

As you can see teacher is still sitting on urap despite
In post 86, teacher wrote:
Urap
and cinnamon are town.
So he's being shit with his vote.
In post 71, teacher wrote:
In post 52, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 49, teacher wrote:I don't understand why I'm a miller and
something else.
Why’d you jump in?
Why’d you chop it so it looks like me speaking?
this is mainly for Nom and I know he's not Bob but this IS similar to the same thing Bob did. Could this be a newbie scum tell?
In post 212, teacher wrote:Woah, jump from TR to vote is pretty aggro and illogical. Care to explain?
I also did not like his light defense of the urap wagon.

Similarly, I don't like how DP is sitting on an empty slot.

I am p sure that thier/doubters defences will be "its p9! and there's nothing strong to go on." but thats how I feel rn.
In post 271, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 266, nomnomnom wrote:
In post 265, Nero Cain wrote:this is mainly for Nom and I know he's not Bob but this IS similar to the same thing Bob did. Could this be a newbie scum tell?
You mean the thing where he doesn't pay attention to the game and shows that he blatantly doesn't follow the thread? That's what Bob did by pushing Sky and putting a misread claim in his reasons to do so.

Then again the circumstances were different.
I was talking about the time where I edited one of his posts to just include the relevant portion of his quote and he was all like "why you'd do that?!?"

What do you think of my scumreading teacher and DP for being useless with their votes?
In post 281, Nero Cain wrote:Can't we all just get along and lynch teacher or DP?
In post 284, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 279, Vorkuta wrote:neither has skitter
but the difference is that Skitter is not here and is v/la. DP is here and active lurking.
In post 591, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 502, Saladman27 wrote:Time to boost my activity with my shitty reads!
Vork
Town
Buj, skitter, Dunn
Townlean
Cinn, nom, teach
NeutralNero, Flubber, Deanius, Urap
Scumlean
Scum


Feel free to ask me anything about my reads and how shitty they are.
do you uh, have any reasons?
In post 508, Dunnstral wrote:How come Nero didn't realize that Vorkuta brought up the game he modded that had a real miller in it when trying to show off scum fake claims?
Why was this important to me? Why did you expect me to remember?

go back to rome, noob.
In post 575, nomnomnom wrote:I also might add that it adds up to NC's earlier argument for a teacher scumread that his vote served no true purpose and was a placeholder so yeah, this is definitely the kind of thing that catches my attention
but why is this so different from DP b/c FMPOV they are equally responsible for sitting on placeholder votes.
In post 715, Nero Cain wrote:Why is Dunn town? Why is DP town?
In post 1714, Nero Cain wrote:scum is sho, skitter and dp?
In post 2518, Nero Cain wrote:DPs like "hey guiz, I can't read Nero well so I'm going to trust the ppl with limited-no experience on Nero instead of the players with experience"
Vork, Buj, Dunn
In post 2619, Nero Cain wrote:yeah, I'd kill DP as scum so kill that to frame me
In post 3368, Nero Cain wrote:I mean I'm obviously going to vote urap over myself but I worry that scum (teacher, dp, skitter) are intentionally avoiding the urao wagon. I mean maybe I was just right originally and I'm over thinking but that's how I feel rn. So barring any last minute teacher wagon, I'll be voting urap.

давай, товарищ, давай покончим с этим
In post 3393, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 3388, teacher wrote:
In post 3375, Nero Cain wrote:the main resistance to my wagon are all his town reads.
Since this is the second time you’ve said this, it’s worth pointing out that it false about five times over.

First, the reads I feel good about are on your wagon - Skitter and DP.

Second, one of your resisters - BuJ - was NOT in my town reads.

Third, another of your resisters - nom - I do town read, but I don’t give her views anywhere near as much weight as skitters (see, e.g., shosins flip)

So no. Their position does not make me want to reconsider, especially when you make
clear errors
like this.
yes, b/c error making is clearly a scum tell but is it even an error?
In post 2904, teacher wrote:Skitter/Nom - towncore.
DP/Vork -- town.
When did DP leapfrog over nom? Also why?

Also, you just got done calling me, dunn and urap/salad the scum team so you are basically saying that you don't believe what you are saying if you don't think everyone else besides those 4 are scum. Yes, I know you'll talk about how I'm your only confident scum read but I think you are just scum that's leaving your options open.


Also, Skitter has never correctly read me as where Nom has.
In post 3473, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 3436, skitter30 wrote:Like everyone nero pushed flipped town so i'm a little skeptical at this point + he had a really icky defense of the urap wagon
my "defense" was the exact same as teachers. The only difference is he was following you around like a lost puppy.

Also, urap was my original push d1. Getting tunneled by shit town and scum throws my game off.

but yeah, I think DP, Skitter and maybe piss wins us the game.

Also, I don't make either of those kills as scum.

vote:dp
In post 4110, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 274, Vorkuta wrote:Pika hasn't said anything relevant so far (100% fluff) so idk
In post 279, Vorkuta wrote:
In post 276, Nero Cain wrote:isn't that at least a slight cause for concern?
-neither has skitter :P
-he's a troll/parody alt so dealing with this slot is going to be very fun. A pika lynch is a policy lynch tbh
is this scum Vork that knows DP is town or a scum Vork defending his buddy?
In post 3713, Nero Cain wrote:scum is prob 2 of skitter/dp/piss

Just read.

He lumps DP along with his wrong town reads... JUST FOR THE SAKE of lumping him in there.
He's not even pushing DP, he's just having like... 1-liner "hey guys DP", never actually presents a case on him and never STRONGLY pushes, instead relying on extremely passive momentum and hoping that other people do the work.
This is a classic case of "let me put my scum-teammate in there just so the numbers work out".
I repeat myself to emphasize this- this is NOT A HARD PUSH, just very subtle and half-hearted 'vote DP please'. DISTANCING, not PUSHING.

Compare that with his pushes on shoshin and skitter, attempted mislynches that he actually pushed quite hard and intended to go through.
For being a "solid scum read", NC does not attack DP with anywhere near the same level of ferocity as his other 'scum-reads'.

TL;DR: NC's interactions with pika are very telling imho.
I originally thought pika was a town!PR and bought his hypoclaiming, but now via PoE I'm dead sure that he's NC's partner.
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Post Post #5704 (isolation #425) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 4:37 am

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Bonus points: Try to pinpoint the exact moment during which NC "town'd" Creature.
I couldn't, because that point doesn't exist.
Just "it's DP, it's DP, it's DP, oh it's creature" and then almost complete radio silence with regards to that slot.
NO interaction, explanation, or reasoning behind Creature being suddenly town, other than the fact that it's MyLo and he wants to end the game NOW and has pushed EVERYONE BUT creature.

This is him just avoiding interacting with creature because he's afraid to say something damning and screw up his/their chances for tomorrow.
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Post Post #5716 (isolation #426) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 2:15 pm

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In post 5705, pisskop wrote:town! vork perspective nero just literally lied. he doesn't need more proof.
.......
NC: "why is creature my scum!partner"?
Vork: "blow me"
NC: "DEFLECTING! BUZZWORDS! VICTIM CARD!"
Nom: "Yeah Vork- why creature?"
Vork: "Here's my stuff, hope it helps tomorrow"
...
...
...
Pisskop: "lol look at vork still trying to scumcase NC"
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Post Post #5719 (isolation #427) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 2:26 pm

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In post 5708, nomnomnom wrote:@Vork you still haven't answered about if you would vote outside of Nero today or not.
Yes, I'm totally willing to THROW AWAY a conf!scum lynch TODAY in exchange for gambling on 50/50 odds.
That's the type of person I am.
no, and what even is this question


Even a NL probably ends up in town losing due to the afforementioned
{Vork, skitter, nom x3} vs {Pisskop, Creature, NC} stonewalling we have, tomorrow the scum faction (team NC & Co.) gets a majority.
You probably make the best NK as skitter is open (see creature & pisskop pushing her), I have a """"""guilty""""""", NC won't suicide as scum, and 1 of {Creature/Pisskop, 75/25 Creature > Pk} is scum, and the other is firmly partnered with them.
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Post Post #5720 (isolation #428) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 2:27 pm

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@pisskop

Is there a universe where I successfully ask you to explain your 'vork is scum' read on me with anything more than a link to musicals?
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Post Post #5722 (isolation #429) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 2:29 pm

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Also jesus christ, #5703 and #5704 was scum!PIKA casing via conf!scumNC INTERACTIONS.

Now you're just throwing all that progress down the bin with how anti-town you're being.
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Post Post #5724 (isolation #430) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 2:32 pm

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NO. NO NO NO. NO.
THIS STOPS HERE


I can totally see the beginnings of "Hey, pisskop looks scummy, he can work as vork's hypo-partner AND as NC's hypo-partner! let's lynch him instead!"
We are not fucking gambling on a 50/50
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Post Post #5728 (isolation #431) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 2:38 pm

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Stop cherry picking and do me the courtesy of a proper scum case.

Also yes. I get that- you implying otherwise is honestly slightly insulting but wtv
HOWEVER some people are throwing out "hmmm are you open to lynching outside of {NC, Vork} today", you are fucking voting for a NL, so I'm squashing the very beginnings of such BS.
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Post Post #5734 (isolation #432) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 2:44 pm

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@pk- #5728

@NC- He wants the hammer or smth duh.
I'm butthurt because he's been calling me scum since his like 10th post and has never explained why outside of linking musicals AND refuses to engage in anything meaningful, instead he focuses on the.... 'less-than-relevant' things.

However I think that your push on fake!miller bunny, his "doc-not-doc" claim BS to WIFOM deter a NK on conf!town and other things (meta based on a few games plus him being my former mason buddy) makes him less likely than creature.
You would describe him as "REALLY BAD" but he comes from town!intentions imho
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Post Post #5736 (isolation #433) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 2:50 pm

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Holy shit I think you slipper NC
In post 5073, Gollum wrote:Scum Nero does not kill buj or Dunn over skitter or do
In post 3429, ofrhz wrote:You wake up in the morning to find two more dead bodies.

NerfedBuJ was killed in the night! He was a
Vanilla Townie
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Spoiler: Role PM
VTWelcome, NerfedBuj! You are a
Vanilla Townie
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You have no special powers except using your voice & vote in the public thread.

Please confirm by responding to this PM with your role and alignment. You win when all scum are eliminated, and town has at least 1 player left standing.


Teacher was also killed in the night! He was a
Town Doctor
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Town Doctor
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Each night you may protect a target from a kill.

Please confirm by responding to this PM with your role and alignment. You win when all scum are eliminated, and town has at least 1 player left standing.
How did you know it was buj and not teacher?
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Post Post #5737 (isolation #434) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 2:50 pm

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***SLIPPED
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Post Post #5738 (isolation #435) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 2:53 pm

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In post 4732, Nero Cain wrote:Also lol @ anyone that thinks I killed BUJ on n2.
In post 4640, Nero Cain wrote:why does scum Nero ever shoot BUJ?
In post 4564, Nero Cain wrote:I'm also shooting BUJ on n2 over you? that makes no sense
How the fuck did you know Buj was the dedicated NK and not Teacher?
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Post Post #5741 (isolation #436) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 3:00 pm

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NC Claimed rolecop.

scum!Rolecop investigates teacher N1, shoots him N2
Dunn has..... flippityfloppity
abolish private property
whatever reasons and shoots buj.

Nowhere do we have confirmed info where teacher is the VIG kill, and NC has been quick to "not take credit" for a kill that he did
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Post Post #5742 (isolation #437) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 3:01 pm

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Like ok I'll be honest- this may be reaching too much to call it a slip.
But he's fucking scum and everything he says comes from a scum perspective
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Post Post #5749 (isolation #438) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 3:08 pm

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Yeah ok fair, that was a called shot
NC is probably to good to slip up anyway
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Post Post #5751 (isolation #439) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 3:08 pm

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Also hi creature- what's up, and is it still BOTH vork and NC?
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Post Post #5754 (isolation #440) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 3:11 pm

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In post 5750, Gollum wrote:
In post 3426, Dunnstral wrote:
Investigative be on DP
please
Protective role go on NomNomNom please
Vig on Teacher
He says this and you don't think that he kills teacher? This may also point to him using the neo on nom
Oh man that aged well
I'd argue he might've used a neapolitan shot on yours truly CONSIDERING HOW HE BACKED OFF ME tremendously as the days went on.
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Post Post #5755 (isolation #441) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 3:12 pm

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In post 5591, Creature wrote:One of the reviewers' game: viewtopic.php?f=53&t=76303
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Post Post #5759 (isolation #442) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 3:17 pm

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In post 5757, Gollum wrote:why would he back off you if you were vanilla?
He got a "why yes, vork is vanilla townie" result PM.........?
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Post Post #5761 (isolation #443) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 3:20 pm

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NC's bargaining now lawl

But no shit- what do you think I've been doing so far?
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Post Post #5769 (isolation #444) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 3:25 pm

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In post 2892, Dunnstral wrote:By the way, if I were "tunneled", vork would be dead
In post 3408, Dunnstral wrote:u r a person 2 -> teacher -> Detective Pikachu -> Pisskop -> Vorkuta

Wins town the game

I'm going to be systymatically killing them off in that order, I removed salad since his tone and pushes seem pretty OK, might flip around Detective Pikachu and Pisskop depending on how things go, otherwise I don't really care, would lynch everyone before Vorkuta through claims
Reaching I know but Reaching

I mean I'd LIKE to believe that there's also have a mechanical guilty/ino corroborated by others ON TOP of me knowing that NC is fake guiltying, but goddamit it's just his word against mine :(
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Post Post #5770 (isolation #445) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 3:28 pm

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In post 5767, nomnomnom wrote:What you're doing is pretty eh.
Look- I'm not going to be able stand toe to toe with NC and his stubbornness, but I'm also not in the habit of lying over and taking a game-loss

The only thing I can do now is like pray he slipped up somewhere (I couldn't find it) or try to find a way to prove my innocence.
Like come on- that fake guilty is bad and if it slides it's complete BS
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Post Post #5774 (isolation #446) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 3:33 pm

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I also hate at how he's trying to get in cheap blows at me
In post 5705, pisskop wrote:from any potential town! vork perspective nero just literally lied. he doesn't need more proof.

yet here's vork, still trying to cobble together a case. and ignoring the encryptor out. :roll: like any good town would right


.his behavior today is that of caught scum
this applies to fucking NC as well

pedit
In post 5772, Gollum wrote:For fans of nka buj wanted to pl cinn/piss and Dunn was obv scum reading both vork and piss
Let me invoke every single dead person in my favor as well please
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Post Post #5775 (isolation #447) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 3:34 pm

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Nero Cain (1):
Vorkuta
Vorkuta (1):
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No Lynch (1):
pisskop

Not Voting (3):
skitter30, Creature, nomnomnom

With
6
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4
to hammer.
Day 4 ends in
(expired on 2019-07-30 21:10:00)
Yeah ok I backed off that hope

Also ffs- maybe he's doing what he's doing to keep up appearances and to not prematurely out results?
It's what I'd do as a PR (If I ever rolled anything decent :P )
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Post Post #5782 (isolation #448) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 3:40 pm

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In post 5776, Gollum wrote:Like why kill a guy that's town reading me?
If this is about Buj again
In post 2201, NerfedBuJ wrote:Town: cinn, vork, skitter, shoshin, nom (wouldn't lynch before lylo or guilties)
Townlean: nero, saladman (not comfortable voting)
Scumlean: dunn, flubber (would rather not vote)
Scum: teacher, urap, DP (would lynch)
Applies even more so to yours truly
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Post Post #5795 (isolation #449) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 3:48 pm

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In post 5792, Gollum wrote:You keep calling vork scum but you won't
vote him
explain
. It's weird
FTFY
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Post Post #5799 (isolation #450) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 3:50 pm

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Friendly reminder that pisskop -> bunny & creature -> pika

As we have to consider predecessor actions/voices as well for this discussion to hold
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Post Post #5801 (isolation #451) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 3:54 pm

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Which....... works because according to pisskop: skitter, vork, urap2 is goon goon encryptor

Or has there been a random shift in perspective?
Also why not role {blocker/stopper/cop}?
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Post Post #5803 (isolation #452) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 3:58 pm

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Also did creature fucking disappear on us???
scum!creature meta anyone?
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Post Post #5815 (isolation #453) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 4:07 pm

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In post 5802, Gollum wrote:That's a p funky post
In post 5804, nomnomnom wrote:that sounds like a REALLY weird post to make when you believe that skitter is last scum and that NC has a vanilla result on Skitt

Is that a slip? An actual one?
In post 5805, Gollum wrote:He's a encryptor so yes
AHAHAHAH

NERO THINKS ""VORK SLIPPED BY SAYING ENCRYPTOR"""
NOM THINKS ""PISSKOP SLIPPED BY SAYING STRONGMAN""

I love it
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Post Post #5830 (isolation #454) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 4:11 pm

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In post 5816, Creature wrote:Spoiler: me deciding to not partake of this shitfest is NAI
lurking!creature confirmed.

I would like to invoke one of my favorite quotes on this site all the way back from my first "big-boy" normal game[
Autumn's Farewell

quote="In post 318, Nero Cain"]I think Creature is certianly capable of posting it up as scum. Like the whole "he's a useless lurksack" as scum is a bit outdated.[/quote]
Also if you want """real""" NC&Creature interactions (and not this manufactured and staged BS), go click on that game
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Post Post #5834 (isolation #455) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 4:11 pm

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motherfuck EBWOwhatever
In post 318, Nero Cain wrote:I think Creature is certianly capable of posting it up as scum. Like the whole "he's a useless lurksack" as scum is a bit outdated.
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Post Post #5838 (isolation #456) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 4:13 pm

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In post 5824, Creature wrote:Did anyone try to metadive Vork?
Pisskop linked musicals and that's it
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Post Post #5842 (isolation #457) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 4:14 pm

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In post 5839, Creature wrote:If I was scum I would be way more decided here and I wouldn't hesitate to deathpush you (or Nero)
because I'm not afraid of being wrong
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HUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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Post Post #5845 (isolation #458) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 4:14 pm

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Shit creature isn't actually playing to end the game today
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Post Post #5846 (isolation #459) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 4:15 pm

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yeah yeah I get what you were trying to say
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Post Post #5854 (isolation #460) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 4:18 pm

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But still- here's a game where town!NC and town!Creature existed. Fairly recent

Here is NC's ISO and ctrl+f creature to see how he approaches the guy.
viewtopic.php?p=10635556&user_select%5B ... #p10635556
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Post Post #5862 (isolation #461) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 4:19 pm

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In post 5852, nomnomnom wrote:
In post 5849, pisskop wrote:Hey Nom!

Image
It's kind of a funny thing to post considering I would already have voted Vork if it wasn't for you lmao
Spoiler:
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Post Post #5865 (isolation #462) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 4:21 pm

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In post 5858, Creature wrote:Gamestate suggests nolynching to be extremely optimal

Town: Nah
In post 5719, Vorkuta wrote:Even a NL probably ends up in town losing due to the afforementioned
{Vork, skitter, nom x3} vs {Pisskop, Creature, NC} stonewalling we have, tomorrow the scum faction (team NC & Co.) gets a majority.
You probably make the best NK as skitter is open (see creature & pisskop pushing her), I have a """"""guilty""""""", NC won't suicide as scum, and 1 of {Creature/Pisskop, 75/25 Creature > Pk} is scum, and the other is firmly partnered with them.
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Post Post #5880 (isolation #463) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 4:28 pm

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In post 5870, Creature wrote:Nero will get to rolecop pisskop.
Nero had 3 fucking nights to do that
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Post Post #5881 (isolation #464) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 4:28 pm

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I liked the NL option... yesterday

back when I thought it was town!NC pushing it
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Post Post #5888 (isolation #465) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 4:33 pm

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NC is scum option
-doesn't NK vork as that damns NC
-doesn't NK pisskop/creature as one of them is his buddy and the other is a hard supporter
-killing in nom x3 & skitter leads to team!vork getting a loss in majority
-fake-guilties (or not idk what the play is) the other player that isn't NK'd

Bad option
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Post Post #5897 (isolation #466) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 4:38 pm

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Oh is everyone present and accounted for now?
Shiet
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Post Post #5900 (isolation #467) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 4:42 pm

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Nero Cain (1):
Vorkuta
Vorkuta (1):
Nero Cain

No Lynch (1):
pisskop

Not Voting (3):
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With
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4
to hammer.
Day 4 ends in
(expired on 2019-07-30 21:10:00)
In post 5895, pisskop wrote:if nero was scum with anyone but me he would have just claimed to cop me and that I returned literally anything but miller. Boom, Im done.
NC is good player.

NC knows which battles he can fight and win, and fight and lose.
NC picked the 1v1 with vork as opposed to a 1v1 against all you other guys because I'm not as experienced and came out of a few loses.

Like let's try (assuming he picks a fight with town)

scum!NC v. Skitter- ha. ha. ha. no. Skitter wins
scum!NC v. nom- town majority sides with nom
scum!NC v. pisskop- could go both ways, and it's not as easy as "Boom"
scum!NC v. Creature- the wall of text, oh god the walls of text. Plus telling interactions with DP that might be dug up, this might be tough.

NC picked the path of "least resistance" and the one that had the most groundwork laid out for him with fake-guiltying me.
ALSO he coordinated with his scum partner. Duh.
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Post Post #5906 (isolation #468) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 4:45 pm

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Skitter was already put to L-1 yesterday but with no hammer.

What changed?
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Post Post #5911 (isolation #469) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 4:47 pm

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In post 5901, Creature wrote:
In post 5900, Vorkuta wrote:scum!NC v. Skitter- ha. ha. ha. no. Skitter wins
He has been doing that all game though?
In post 5903, skitter30 wrote:
In post 5900, Vorkuta wrote:scum!NC v. Skitter- ha. ha. ha. no. Skitter wins
like i said, if he was scum and just claimed vt i probably get lynched at start of day
Like what I said just now

NC """lost""" a ""soft"" 1v1 with skitter earlier on.
Trying to do it again is suicide IMHO.

And one more time- I think his "skitter is vanilla" rolecop is an accidental perspective/damning slip that conf!town'd her.
It could be a play to get skitter on his side OR it could be an honest-to-god accidental misplay.
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Post Post #5912 (isolation #470) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 4:48 pm

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In post 5909, Creature wrote:Rolecop + (even if we consider 1-shot) strongman is sorta OP for scum.
Follow the cop setup
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Post Post #5915 (isolation #471) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 4:50 pm

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In post 5913, Creature wrote:Yeah, because he chose to do that on you instead already.
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I was talking about a 1v1 with a fake-guilty to fuel it
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Post Post #5917 (isolation #472) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 4:52 pm

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# is basically what I think scum!thoughtprocess at N3 was when they were decided who to fake-guilty and how to end the game ASAP.

I honestly think NC expected the game to be over MUCH SOONER and he's been changing his play-style/attitude/demeanor as the day goes on because he's stuck in the mindset of "end the game today"
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Post Post #5918 (isolation #473) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 4:52 pm

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In post 5916, skitter30 wrote:as far as i can tell it's kinda 3-3 nero v vork - no-lynching just kills in favor of scum as far as i can tell, and the gridlock gets broken that way
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Post Post #5951 (isolation #474) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 5:36 pm

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In post 5943, Gollum wrote:Vork is town reading piss so he won't vote him and I guarantee that vork will argue that it was a me/piss team all along and that he just got fooled
60-40 with his newer posts tbh
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Post Post #5953 (isolation #475) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 9:42 pm

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Says the guy voting NL
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Post Post #6087 (isolation #476) » Mon Jul 22, 2019 12:46 am

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In post 6074, Gollum wrote:This post is also kinda funky b/c he's pushing a Nero/creature team but he's saying that scum Nero wouldn't pick a fight there? If he's my buddy why does vork list him as town in this post?
In post 5900, Vorkuta wrote:(assuming he picks a fight with town)
JFC nero, stop cherrypicking
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Post Post #6098 (isolation #477) » Mon Jul 22, 2019 1:01 am

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In post 6090, skitter30 wrote:@ vork
I mean... that applies for pretty damn most of my games I suppose.
Anything in particular you want commentary on?

Because you're quoting quite a few things right now
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Post Post #6099 (isolation #478) » Mon Jul 22, 2019 1:01 am

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In post 6094, Gollum wrote:Y does scum Nero claim a guilty on vork? Why does scum Nero claim a pr at all and a vanilla on you?
So scum Nero can use this exact appeal
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Post Post #6257 (isolation #479) » Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:40 am

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Has pisskop full claimed yet?
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Post Post #6271 (isolation #480) » Tue Jul 23, 2019 6:22 pm

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In post 6259, pisskop wrote:Skitter, in what world does it make sense for cinnamon - who you've seen play in other games - to fake claim from post one; to be under constant pressure like he was in the first day and not crack.
Both NC and I made exactly this case on bunny D1 and why it's optimal for scum to pull this.
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Post Post #6273 (isolation #481) » Wed Jul 24, 2019 2:34 am

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In post 6272, skitter30 wrote:vork has gonr radio silent
*looks at the post above this one*
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Post Post #6418 (isolation #482) » Wed Jul 24, 2019 1:54 pm

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In post 6415, chennisden wrote:I do think something like a replacement might've completely changed the game
Insert us panicking in the scumPT over the shoshin/pisskop/creature replacements
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Post Post #6420 (isolation #483) » Wed Jul 24, 2019 2:22 pm

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Weee first scum game where I endgamed!
3rd scum game where I was guiltied :(
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