Mini Normal 2076: Game Over

[PenguinPower]

Like...there is enough dissonance here I don't know why you want to do that.

[PenguinPower]

For 1 - MJL has provided no answer to a question I think it pretty important.

[PenguinPower]

Doesn't answer my question.

You had him as town. What's changed, and why vote him right after nom and I did?

[PenguinPower]

I mean...if he drops the nicknames and uses usernames, this is probably the first game in wich I want to keep NM alive.

[PenguinPower]

Knowing that now I've said that there is little to no chance he will.

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: Pika

Can we collapse the vanities and unvotes into something please?

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Maybe - but he's actually doing stuff.

[PenguinPower]

I didn't believe it when it was first claimed, and I would rather lose a backup then run up another claim sooooo...

[PenguinPower]

The fact that we have no strong wagons with two days left irks me.

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I don't believe there are any other good choices that are going to get lynched before EOD. Otherwise I'd still be on Chenn.

[PenguinPower]

I don't believe there are any other good choices that are going to get lynched before EOD

We're being stonewalled/corralled and I don't even think it's by scum tbh

You do realize that you are contributing to the gamestate I just complained about...right?

[PenguinPower]

Penguin what's your read on nom?

VOTE: chenn

Cdb!slot is definitely town.

nom...I get concerned when we are so closely aligned...js.

[PenguinPower]

I didn't think CDB was town until nom repped in. My read on Nom is weak and entirely meta based, and that's why I said Nom agreeing with me like that concerns me.

[PenguinPower]

Aww...i wanted it

[PenguinPower]

I can't atm.

I'd also rather Performer come back and do something.

[PenguinPower]

I prefer a Chenn lynch but will not accept a no lynch. Anyone on the Pika wagon willing to vote Chenn speak up please.

Psyche and LUV do something with your vote.

[PenguinPower]

I'm on the Performer wagon, but when I tested the waters with a Chenn vote, you demanded that I account for my actions.

I thought no-lynch was severely scum-sided. Or at least that's what I was taught. Are you saying otherwise?

Right. Because you had him as a town read.

Your explanation was underwhelming and didn't come across at all as you are willing to lynch:

Chenn was safe, so I figured to let Nom do their thing.

[PenguinPower]

I prefer a Chenn lynch but will not accept a no lynch. Anyone on the Pika wagon willing to vote Chenn speak up please.

Psyche and LUV do something with your vote.

VOTE: Performer!
bc i aint putting anyone at L-1

You've had chenn in your lynchpool for awhile now and voting him wouldn't be L-1...

Odd.

Not to mention I don't see why you wouldn't put anyone at L-1.

[PenguinPower]

Oh...so that changed.

He's not incompetent though. Had pretty good reads in the last open I played with him.

[PenguinPower]

Just because I have someone as a town read doesn't mean that I need to dig my heels in the sand. I try not to tunnel people, so that means I have to keep an open mind.

That's good. But, usually, when someone is stating a town read on another slot they have better (or other) reasoning than "testing the waters" for putting their vote down on them.

Like my vote on Performer earlier was because I didn't like how they answered their "can't meta read me" but "trust me" which I questioned. It wasn't strong, but it was a reason, and I wanted to see what happened.

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see above

[PenguinPower]

Gustavo

[PenguinPower]

: )

Answer my question.

[PenguinPower]

: )

Answer my question.

? which post

Anyone on the Pika wagon willing to vote Chenn speak up please.

Sorry - it was more of an imperative statement.

[PenguinPower]

Why performer over chenn?

[PenguinPower]

hmm...

[PenguinPower]

The dancing around the hammer is gross.

Just hammer.

[PenguinPower]

I'm totally going to freak out at you if he flips green. This wagon was entirely your fault and you bear 100% of the blame.

[PenguinPower]

There was enough evidence to hammer. Enough people who understand how these games are constructed weren't buying his UB claim. PenguinPower said there's like a 1.4% chance of a UB being in the game.

I did not.

Based on historical records 1.5% of the Mini Normal games since 1401 had a Town Universal Backup or Town Universal Backup + some other role/modifier.

That said - using past setups to guess at the current setup isn't necessarily a good thing to do and why are you asking me what the likelihood is?

I gave you a percentage of past games and explicitly said using past games to guess the current setup was necessarily a good thing to do.

[PenguinPower]

I wasn't being accusatory - I was clarifying what I said.

Flip hasn't even happened yet...

[PenguinPower]

I really hate twilight...and this is a substantial one.

[PenguinPower]

its just a book dude

turned into several movies and now a lot of nonsense because mod isn't here to lock.


*wants to lock it so bad*

[PenguinPower]

I'm going on a trip tomorrow!!!

I have thoughts.

[PenguinPower]

Major bussing in this game.

[PenguinPower]

Okay?

Yeah?

That's it?

[PenguinPower]

Has someone claimed to receive fruit?

[PenguinPower]

Um...compulsive multitasking town role and you think Vig over PGO why?

[PenguinPower]

^
multitasking visiting town role

[PenguinPower]

I'm dumb. I could have sworn PGO was normal but it's not.

[PenguinPower]

LUV is town. moving on.

[PenguinPower]

Probably.

[PenguinPower]

guys who's, like, left in your POEs

I mean - who is this addressed to? Lots of people haven't even checked in yet.

[PenguinPower]

PP of the pagetops.

[PenguinPower]

Oh yeah - not answering until everyone has checked in.

[PenguinPower]

Doesn't necessarily have anything to do with you.

[PenguinPower]

How do you know MJL's scumrange?

[PenguinPower]

Hmm...

[PenguinPower]

I think if you received fruit you should claim it.

I’m also tired and my new flight has been delayed. Yay.

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: MJL

[PenguinPower]

Activity after I get back from the beach unless this is lynched.

Not a fan of the play around eod yesterday and other things I can’t really discuss atm.

[PenguinPower]

I'm back but probably won't do much tonight. Any highlights?

[PenguinPower]

1st post isn't updated.

Who did pisskop/bob replace?

[PenguinPower]

Yeah - I'm fine with bob going.

[PenguinPower]

Could we unvote from L-1 though?

Lack of a counterwagon at all and 6 days left means I need to do some poking.

[PenguinPower]

No one has at all? Even after I specifically said if someone did they should?

[PenguinPower]

Geez - it's almost as if I asked that because there was a point.

[PenguinPower]

Doesn't matter until/if it's answered.

[PenguinPower]

Pineapple or Apple?

[PenguinPower]

My only pause is Mary Jo replacing out. I don’t think she replaces out as town here but no counterwagon implies the slot is town.

This is exactly where I'm at.

[PenguinPower]

i got the fruit!

Solid pagetop announcement.

Why were you resistant to announce?

[PenguinPower]

I'm a bit excited tbh.

Could be the wine though.

[PenguinPower]

I know LUV's town game fairly well given several years and games together.

I'm fairly confident this is it. Pretty much why I said I had N0 result on him fwiw...

[PenguinPower]

About what?

[PenguinPower]

Pretty sure MJL/Bob needs to go at this point.

[PenguinPower]

Oh...yeah...no...I don't do pre-flip stuff.

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@schadd

[PenguinPower]

My only pause is Mary Jo replacing out. I don’t think she replaces out as town here but no counterwagon implies the slot is town.

My only pause is Mary Jo replacing out. I don’t think she replaces out as town here but no counterwagon implies the slot is town.

This is exactly where I'm at.

If that's the case, then who is scum??

Oh, I have pause...I still think the slot is scum and there's bussing/dancing because of how it happened.

Bussing here is dangerous, but given the game, not out of the question.

It's why I want more to see what's going to happen. It's also why the quick build up is concerning, but it's also early day so doesn't necessarily mean much/anything.

[PenguinPower]

@pp we're past halfway through d2 so I don't see why we're early in the phase. bob was L-1 and he didn't claim, so that's also suspicious and I pointed out that he was already L-1. that makes me think he's stalling.

I missed most of today tbf.

[PenguinPower]

quick build up

After I poked the game a few times, I finally got 3 more votes on the wagon.
This was quick??? (friendly reminder I started the wagon D2)

Again...been gone most of today. Seemed quick to me.

[PenguinPower]

I got fruit. Assumed it was from chenn.

[PenguinPower]

Maybe.

[PenguinPower]

3 days left...fyi.

[PenguinPower]

Thank you. Someone appreciates the genius that is Pikotaro.

[PenguinPower]

It would be nice if that "a" at the top of the page was a votecount.

[PenguinPower]

Possible.

I don't think she was a lost cause though...

[PenguinPower]

Hey, Bob...why wasn't I one of your town reads when you first caught up? I mean you had Otter and Performer as your two town reads, but presumably knew the result on me already. I get not outing the result - just want to understand your thought process there.

Also - let's say that LUV isn't scum but pisskop flips red. Who's last scum?

[PenguinPower]

Who are you proposing we lynch if not Bob?

[PenguinPower]

Performer > Otter > Vorkuta > schadd > LUV

my preferred order if not doing Bob.

I'm not a huge fan of Psych tbh, but I'm not sure that makes him scum? He's a ? for me. I didn't care much for your predecessor either, but I couldn't read his nonsense well and feel like giving you a chance.

I agree NM is town.

[PenguinPower]

I complained about that a page back. Get your own material.

[PenguinPower]

I didn't expect you to agree with that but thanks for clarifying.

[PenguinPower]

Pretty sure I said why in the same post.

[PenguinPower]

Yeah...but you didn't.

[PenguinPower]

I'm just stating a fact.

[PenguinPower]

Why does your read on me seem closely tied to my view on your alignment?

Last time it wavered was when I voted you but when I unvoted it came back to town.

[PenguinPower]

I didn't expect you to agree with that but thanks for clarifying.

Not sure why psyche pisskop nm aren't in that lynch order ....

Pretty sure I said why in the same post.

You let go of this real quick too.

[PenguinPower]

What specifically since I explained it?

[PenguinPower]

First off, why is any of that fishy?

Second, I did mention pisskop - I said I wanted to give him a chance given Redemption was a whole bunch of nonsense. I said this in the post you quoted.

I didn't care much for your predecessor either, but I couldn't read his nonsense well and feel like giving you a chance.

Based on your above post you think Psyche is scummy - why?

[PenguinPower]

Someone should prod the mod.

[PenguinPower]

You feel like putting a vote down, Psyche?

[PenguinPower]

So you're not going to vote unless you have the hammer?

[PenguinPower]

LUV - who you do you want to lynch today?

[PenguinPower]

pisskop
Performer
bob3141 - Multitasking Gunsmith Compulsive Fruit Vendor
Lil Uzi Vert
PenguinPower

not exactly clear on the existing claims atm, but atm my sentiment is that i'll lynch whichever of these i get the opportunity to barring discovery of compelling claims
how surprising that LUV's been here all game!

That's the only claim.

[PenguinPower]

Hop on Bob then - I doubt the other two get pushed through today (and I don't particularly want to lynch NM).

[PenguinPower]

Why are you happy to see them?

[PenguinPower]

I feel like you should have some more input than that.

[PenguinPower]

Why otter?

[PenguinPower]

I feel like you should have some more input than that.

i'm trying to find this one image where a girl from a reality show is asking "did you get it? did you get the [something i forget]" and i would edit in "more input than that" into the thing i forget

solid. 5/7.

[PenguinPower]

Your suggestions?

[PenguinPower]

That's fair.

Can I interest you in a performer lynch?

[PenguinPower]

Interesting...he was in your invest pool. Why the townlean?

[PenguinPower]

counterwagon for DP + if i recall hes like SUPER wolfy and struggly as maf

1.) I don't think so

VC 1.14

Redemption:

Psyche:

Performer:

chennisden, Vorkuta

Not_Mafia:

Detective Pikachu:

Not_Mafia, Redemption, LuckyOtter, schadd_, PenguinPower, Psyche, MaryJoLisa

nomnomnom:

Detective Pikachu

chennisden:

nomnomnom, Performer

LuckyOtter:

MaryJoLisa:

Vorkuta:

Lil Uzi Vert:

PenguinPower:

schadd_:

Not Voting:

Lil Uzi Vert

With

13

votes,

7

to lynch

Deadline: (expired on 2019-06-05 21:00:43)

2.) iirc, he can be quite good as scum

[PenguinPower]

How does performer make sense as an otter partner if he was convinced DP was being lynched...

you're losing me

[PenguinPower]

huh - wish we had more vote counts but ok i see what you're saying.

[PenguinPower]

If we end up 3p lylo with no further information you better believe it.

[PenguinPower]

Not Voting: Lil Uzi Vert, Psyche, Vorkuta

Do something.

[PenguinPower]

Could you please vote for who you want to lynch

Please.

[PenguinPower]

Would be nice if you actually showed us where you wanted to be though.

[PenguinPower]

That's nice.

Post a vote.

[PenguinPower]

schadd...could you hammer pls?

hour left.

[PenguinPower]

Assuming red flip:

Invests/kills should be on performer.

If for whatever reason there are both roles, kill is on Performer, invest is on Psych-slot.

[PenguinPower]

penguin (not confirmed with bob scum. almost)

What does this mean?

(I'm assuming we're going to have a long twilight tbh).

[PenguinPower]

add LUV to the "do not vig" list.

[PenguinPower]

Actually, if it's a goon flip ignore what I said.

[PenguinPower]

you are confirmed town with bob town but not bob scum, hence needing to be on a list

So you think I bussed both my scumbuddies back to back.

Solid.

[PenguinPower]

sorry the do not vig isn't people i find towny or scummy but rather a randomish assortment of potentially sortable people throughout the consensus reads spectrum

Add LUV to that pls.

I know this guy really really well.

[PenguinPower]

you are confirmed town with bob town but not bob scum, hence needing to be on a list

So you think I bussed both my scumbuddies back to back.

Solid.

Ignore this...I have done this.

[PenguinPower]

you would've gotten a deadline extension for the replace out

Please stop posting.

[PenguinPower]

IF BOB FLIPS SCUM: PLEASE DO NOT VIG ANY OF THE FOLLOWING
LUV
otter
penguin (not confirmed with bob scum. almost)
schadd

if there is a tracker or other investigative please hit one of the above if possible.

my instinct is to leave the vig pool bigger to adapt to the vig using their reads

I'm ok with this list.

[PenguinPower]

If bob flips town I will re-eval my LUV read.

[PenguinPower]

Sorry...did Psyche get replaced?

[PenguinPower]

Leaning Performer kills me there...maybe to obv though.

Original question needs to be answered though.

[PenguinPower]

He requested replacement....

[PenguinPower]

replacing out

[PenguinPower]

Mod hasn't asked for a replacement atm....soo....

[PenguinPower]

I'm fine with Vorkuta or schadd going today

[PenguinPower]

I kind of want another sweep and seeing as I'm 2 for 2

You haven't been on either scum lynch.

0 for 2.

[PenguinPower]

It's the intent that counts

Except that it's not?

meh...not feeling a vork lynch today.

[PenguinPower]

I mean - I don't think NM is the type to bus his buddies back to back as scum.

[PenguinPower]

I know pp to be of that way as well.

you are confirmed town with bob town but not bob scum, hence needing to be on a list

So you think I bussed both my scumbuddies back to back.

Solid.

Ignore this...I have done this.

If I were scum then pp or schadd would be dead by now.

[PenguinPower]

Leaning Performer kills me there...maybe to obv though.

Original question needs to be answered though.

I dont remember mentioning that scum me would kill you, before my d3 post?...

Also what question did you have for me?

Right - it was meta based. Looks like it was accurate as well.

I forget the question. Hold on.

[PenguinPower]

Yeah - I don't remember the question.

Note: Psyche slot is conf!town as he repped out before EOD and still hasn't been replaced. One scum left and a kill was made.

Ouch.

[PenguinPower]

I mean technically there could be 4 scum, but I can't think of a normal where that has been the case.

[PenguinPower]

Which game was that?

[PenguinPower]

Morality hasn't been in any Mini Normals with 4 scum...

[PenguinPower]

Could you please be explicit in what you are trying to say?

[PenguinPower]

someone needs to update the mini normal archive

*cough*implosion*cough*

ok - so not conf!town.

[PenguinPower]

also had the thought in 2231 but didnt wanna say anything

Why not?

[PenguinPower]

Why do we think we have a vig in play?

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Eh - it's an obvious mod error imo.

[PenguinPower]

nvm

[PenguinPower]

My memory fails me from time to time.

[PenguinPower]

Then nothing I said about psyche is relevant.

[PenguinPower]

I think Mary wasn't the type to be voting scum buddies unless super necessary, so now im thinking psyche slot, red/pk slot, and nm could be town?

Given that you quoted LUV being voted, why didn't you include him in that list?

Pretty sure you weren't townreading him.

[PenguinPower]

I got fruit. Bob said I was sent fruit.

Probably me.

[PenguinPower]

I'm fine with Vorkuta or schadd going today

[PenguinPower]

We had back to back scum lynches with an errant vig shot taking us to evens.

We should wait for Psyche slot to be replaced and do stuff though. I'm fine throwing that slot in my lynch pool for now.

[PenguinPower]

penguin your avatar looks like the dude is keeled over snorting the squid or whatever like a thick wad of cocaine

who says he's not

[PenguinPower]

@mod: Are you going to replace Psyche?

[PenguinPower]

food poisoning sucks. catching up in the morning.

[PenguinPower]

Why are we bailing on Vorkuta?

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: performer

[PenguinPower]

You’re welcome to place a vote.

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: Vork

This game stalled.

[PenguinPower]

Wait a minute, it changed to d3 but no nk? Hm...

wut?

LuckyOtter,

Town Tracker

, was killed Night 2.

Day 3 deadline: (expired on 2019-07-08 22:34:38)

[PenguinPower]

I mean - Vork's hammered so we just have to wait on the mod to do mod things.

[PenguinPower]

;

[PenguinPower]

;

[PenguinPower]

nah, i'm just kidding

[PenguinPower]

you did it wrong

[PenguinPower]

[PenguinPower]

umm...

[PenguinPower]

...

sigh

[PenguinPower]

Vork is lynched? What?

[PenguinPower]

I'm starting to doubt my counting abilities.

[PenguinPower]

What if it's not LUV?

[PenguinPower]

Hypothetically from your perspective

[PenguinPower]

Psyche was so conf!town

Elaborate on this.

[PenguinPower]

don't do that

[PenguinPower]

Was also me - I just got to be a Mason too.

[PenguinPower]

So close yet so far, gg town

I'm actually relatively...impressed...with you this game.

[PenguinPower]

tbf - I had no idea who most of those were...and it's n_m.

[PenguinPower]

I assume the masons didn't have day chat either?

We did not

[PenguinPower]

id really like for the review thread for this game to be released and for several people to turn on location so i can have a chat

What do you mean "turn on location?" Is this site collecting data other than IP?

[PenguinPower]

It was removed.

[PenguinPower]

There wasn't much there.

[PenguinPower]

Yeah - just me and LUV surprised at my role, me saying MJL was likely scum but I didn't want her to be, and me waxing on about a PGO because I'm dumb and forgot it wasn't normal.

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