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VOTE: sausage We must end the party before it starts.

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@Wake, What do you think of Saudade/Sausage rn?
@Wimpy, why?

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I just woke up and 10 pages appeared, Timezones, amirite?
I didn’t like the TvT clash between sausage and wimp, (yes I tr both of them). About vork, I can see why he would be scum but last time I’ve seen scum!Vork, he was too obvscum to be scum and won the game that way.

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Yoink, I find it scummy that Saudade focuses on either wimpy or wake, just judging the other people on who they side with. Plank, why did you vote Vork?

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Ok, so I might have been inconsistent, but I still TR Vork.
Inconsistency Part II: UNVOTE:

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Actually,

Intent to L-1 Wake

for some reason it’s always the too scum to be scum that flips red.

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Vork, Wimp/Elbirn, You, Ali, Elements and Zote.

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Wake, initially a TR because he was too obvious but it’s always the obvscum that flips red
Plank-ish, I don’t really get why he’s voting Vork despite most of the votes are on either wake or saudade.

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Actually,

Intent to L-1 Wake

for some reason it’s always the too scum to be scum that flips red.

Why would you say you are going to do that

And not do it

To be clear, noting I am on the wagon - I am not encouraging you to join, just curious as to why you’ve hesitated there

Don’t want a lolhammer before he claims.

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I wanna make sure he’s here before I L-1 him.

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VOTE: Salad

So I started reading the game and someone who talks in the 3rd person decided to call me a cur.

Since I'm positive that Wimpy was town, I'm voting wherever his replacement votes.

That's a scummy reason for voting me, you could've at least regurgitated Elbirn's reasonable reasoning. You still haven't answered my question, why did you vote Cork?

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Now that you're here VOTE: Wake

L-1

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yes I also hate it when someone does something scummy and then some random (from my POV) just say 'oh he just does that every game'

like can we have some examples? thats just bad gameplay. What if you're their partner and just say that shit out of nowhere?

My ISO from my last normal

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Can't link more cause ongoing games.

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I'm a big fan of pressuring this slot actually

VOTE: Looker

Why do you keep on sheeping others without any good reason? Why not even regurgitate the other wagoneers’ reasoning?

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Also, please, get a pfp.

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VOTE: Plank

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@Mod, V/LA until Thursday, might extend due to wildfire conditions.

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I think this is mafia flavour not werewolf.

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I’ll hammer, I guess. I mean who needs a claim when you can have a flip?
VOTE: Look

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Yoink, VOTE: Plank, I guess today's gonna be as fast as yesterday.

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I prefer Saudade over Plank, letsgo

Why saudade over plank? Speaking of plank, I don't think he has posted D2 yet.

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I like your thinking but it was just an elaborate prod dodge.

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I don't have much time rn read much, but what's the case on saudade other than tunnelling wake?

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VOTE: Saudade Plank’s null to me now. I chose saud over vork based on his interactions with looker and last time I played with scum!vork he did SvS (is that right?) with his partner, unlike here where he never interacted with looker.

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I think the only person I'd consider voting for on wagon is Salad, he possibly reluctantly voted looker and also I am pinged slightly with him sheeping elements case and saying the day will be quick - it comes over as if he is knowingly going to be inactive and assumes that case will be enough to end the day before he comes back

But that just seems to naive to be scum

Believe it or not I think Saladman's hammer was kinda townie.

Why though? In all of my games everything i do is scummy, why do you think that hammer was townie?

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Well, good night everybody.

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It's either Saudade, Profii, Salad, or Zote.

...

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Let's kill them all.

Vortuka wasn't even in your list and you have just rushed a hammer for no reason at all

Perhaps you should read below that one.

Question is, should you be given a pass for just forgetting, or not because you're lying?

Yeah I have a feeling that post was cherry picked too

No.

Let's kill him too.

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VOTE: Saudade You’ve claimed mason for a long time and no one in the surviving town has claimed mason nor have acted as if you’re confirmed town

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You do know you already voted right?

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Profi is town

Just wanted to point that out for all the naysayers

And why do you say that?

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Anyone want to claim mason before someone hammers?

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Wake88 is scum with elements, peace.

It's 2p Scum and looker's dead.

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@Saudade who’s your mason partner?

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Alright fellas

I'm a Town Night 3 _______

I was thinking it soft-counter-claims Wake's role by having 2 Night 3 PRs? Not so sure anyone though. I don't have any useful results so will not claim the rest of my role.

I think it counter claims Wake’s PR cause there’s usually no more than 3 PRs. VOTE: Wake

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Al was right about looker and has been making townie decisions since then and Wake doesn’t have a clean track record.

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It still would be weird having more PRs+maf than VTs. There’s currently 6 (including claims) prs and maf and 5 VTs.

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only 4 claims+revealed Salad?
Saudade, Vorkuta, Wake and I

What do you mean?

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That's the thing though, everyone's been equally scummy.

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I suggest doing a catch-up, last time I refused to reread didn't end well.

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VOTE: Elbirn If Ali wants to policy lynch someone other than me, now that’s a problem...

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How can Elbirn’s spot be conf!town just because Wimpy repped out? Wimpy repped out of all of his games, not just this one.

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And another. In the queues he /out of everything saying “mafiascum has deteriorated.”. Can’t say what happened in the other game cause it’s still ongoing.

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VOTE: Eve I’m thinking she’s hopping on wagons as they gain traction, hoping for a mislynch. I mean that response to plank’s argument about mean just screams to me “i have a valid reason to mislynch, thanks plank!”

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It’s the end of the school year, I’m modding a game and usually in a game, it’s around this time I actually start to contribute.

Before I start rereading my immediate suspicions are Eve, Elb and Elements. Note since this is before rereading, it’s prob shit.

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Alimdia, Town - He’s put up great points about looker and me

At this point Looker's wall of posts, the contents in there towards me are just 90% saying 'nothing' and straight up misdirection

A prime example is...

No you had 0 mention of wake, and then suddenly you assume wake is town. 0 analysis in between. You didn't express any reads in between.

Are you expecting reads to be given out pre-Day 1? Where do you think they come from? They're derived in-game from interactions, so I don't see why you'd expect them to be telegraphed in RVS

Except your post 334, 393, 403 are not pre-Day 1 anymore. Its after a crapload of stuff has happened

Lack of protest of the wake wagon falling down is noted. Any thoughts from anyone?

I feel it was opportunistic scum, honestly. When people don't have to give reasoning, anybody can jump on a wagon.

Your 334 said that you haven't read wake yet.
Your 393 and 403 also don't mention wake.

Your next post, which is the post I am quoting, suddenly straight up slips that wake is town. Hmm? Where did that sudden town read come from? I think it's definitely a slip

If we assume that's an accident.... who is the opportunistic scum on the wagon? Why is your vote on Elements, who needed to be prodded by the mod and thus actually hasn't posted in a while.

I really don't get your case. You say I'm scum for finding Wake's wagon suspicious, but you weren't on it either. I legit thought this was you being upset over the trash comment.

You're scum for straight up saying wake is town with 0 prior mentions of wake and also still not analysing the wagon?
Also I already disproven by my posts earlier: "being upset over the trash comment"

Scum doesn't act scummy on purpose. In fact they try their best to not look scummy.
What I look for are what they don't do, contradictions and posts that imply prior knowledge.
You:
1) didnt investigate wake wagon still. Its been a couple days. Every time we talk about it, you talk about me, answer other stuff, instead of analyzing the wake wagon.
2) You imply prior knowledge of wake being town when you had 0 mentions about wake before. Yes I expect reads to be given out before you make a statement that implies you 'know' they are town.


I'm probably done responding to Looker's walls unless theres anything new there. So far its more of the same.

That is, to me, a pro town post. I also thought Alim’s pfp was fozzie bear.

Elbirn, Null - I don’t really scumread him but I don’t like how people say he’s conf!town just because a rep out. One thing to note, Elbirn seems to have forgotten about me in the first half after voting looker.
Elements, Null - Only thing interesting was that Elements l-1ed vork and hammered saud.
Eve, Scumlean - Most of her votes look like scum hopping on wagons for a mislynch. Especially when she changed her mind so quickly from elements to me.
Profii, Null -
Plank, Null -
Wake - I honestly think his jk claim is real because he was surprised at what Loyal meant.

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I should’ve just left them out, their ISOs are long and it’s currently night.

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I wouldn't mind voting wake actually

Though he's probably town unfortunately

Why do you wanna vote wake? and why do you TR him all of a sudden?

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I wasn’t quick to vote you because I thought there couldn’t be any 2 N3 PRs, I thought there was just too many PRs in general. I changed my vote cause I realised it is possible to have more PRs/Maf than VT

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Ok, eve’s scum, she didn’t even call intent

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When I flip town, you better lynch tomorrow.

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I'm VT btw

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Why do you keep on fake hammering?

- Best last words ever

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K thank you

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Yes

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I’m still VT