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Fuck

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Fuck

*first

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Garmr-Wake-Robb have at least 2 town within them.

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I like to think I’m pretty good at reading all 3 of you, albeit my Wake data is way out of date, however from what I’ve seen thus far, I think it comes from town rather than scum. It’s really early, but I feel that was an interesting beginning to the game. Normally there’s more players, and the three of you have such strong personalities that it was interesting just seeing where it would go if uninterrupted.

I’m happy to call you all town for now. Net positive for sure.

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Sup

I wouldn’t actually use this as a case ever, but like...this screams townRob to me for some reason.

This is really weird for me to think about potential scumRobb saying.

Just gut, and I’m hoping post game it turns out to be true.

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Garmr
Wake/Robb

Dunn

Thus far

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I gut kinda scum read it, but I’m keeping it completely neutral since it was first page.

Need some more to add to the chain.

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Am I the only one a bit perturbed by thinking all of us might be Town? I know I am, but it just seems a bit too premature to be honest. Below is ranked in order.

Townlean

Null

Garmr
Robb
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Dunnstral

Scumlean

Even if it is too early, i don’t see a reason not to act like we aren’t just coming to the right conclusion.

Out of all of us, I’m inherently the ‘scummiest’ thus far, but I’m here to talk with people so they can accurately read me as town.

What you’re saying is you think every single player thus far is dead neutral then, nothing people have said has wiggled one way or another?

I am a hard pusher of townie actions does not equal town, and vice versa, which is what I was referringto when I brought up Dunn’s chain earlier. Adding separate actions of his together to see if it in total is a scum chain or a town chain.

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Garmr-Wake-Robb have at least 2 town within them.

how do you tell that there's at least 2 towns? is it just that you don't think any of them are a maf & maf interaction or are they individual reads?

It’s kind of both, mixed in with what I know about each of their personalities.

I generally like to read people’s personalities in relation to alignment rather than straight up meta reads because I think it’s more efficient. Meta is a good complimentary tool, if you can read who the person is themselves in relation to alignment and what players they are attempting to put the moves on or genuineness, I find it easier to tone read.

Now, while I actively do town read the 3 of them, I am aware it is early game, and I could be wrong. For all I know one of them is scum attempting to look townie, as scum do, and I’ll look into further actions to cross against it.

Plus, I believe the game state of which the 3 of them are being pushed as town creates a nice dichotomy, don’t you think?

Scum’s turn to play.

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ello

don't feel like RVS is worth the effort right now so just gonna ask questions instead

RVS isn’t always necessary, and I don’t believe we are in RVS at this time. We had a couple posts worth of it, but the Garmr-Wake-Robb dynamic booted us out of it nice and fast.

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Solidly town reading Robb. :shrug:

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VOTE: Dunnstral

I’d like to see where this takes the game.

Garmr just dealt with ScumMe recently, so he should have a fresh intake on scumMe.

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He got mislynched in 7p lylo to give us the scum win dealt with, my 10th scum victory in the year of 2019

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I'm back baybay!

VOTE: Flavor Leaf, aka Boonskiies, aka Morality, aka 10 other alts I can't remember off the top of my head.

!!! !!!!!!

Yay.

You missed a couple new ones that POPPED OFF.

Rick Dalton and Pretentious

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Also, new Saudade avi changes everything wtf

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flavor Leaf wanna be really against this january lynch so I'll know for sure its 100% the correct lynch

That only happens in specific games. It’s either I’m 100% correct in games or 100% incorrect. Either way, they both lead to the correct path.

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But no, i have nothing to say about the Jan Man yet

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I wish people wouldn't be so in favour of voting for me just because they lost a game to scum me

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i wish skitter wasnt here so I could proclaim myself as the best player in the table

Do it anyways. Everyone should strive to be the best.

The healthy competition is great, but key word, healthy.

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SkitterScum is easy to figure out.

If I die, she’s scum.

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SkitterScum is easy to figure out.

If I die, she’s scum.

That’s it. That’s all I got.

Not actually easy. I specifically know for a fact that if Skitter is scum, she’s going to be town read and essentially be “townie”. That’s my biggest ScumSkitter tip tell for you guys. She will be generally town read when she is scum.

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Even if it is too early, i don’t see a reason not to act like we aren’t just coming to the right conclusion.

Out of all of us, I’m inherently the ‘scummiest’ thus far, but I’m here to talk with people so they can accurately read me as town.

Actually no, this is bad

HARD disagree. Especially because you know I’m a player of the game state and reaction testing.

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I dont understand the dunn wagon

VOTE: garmr

Caught up.

I dont particularly like fl, garmr, or tictac. I dont like the wagon they're pushing

Pedit lol hi saudade

I actively explained why I voted Dunn, and if you look at my past votes, it’s a fine vote. I don’t scum read Dunn, I’m neutral.

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More i dont like that you were instigating a fight with robb, which we all know would not end well

And i dont like how people are hopping onto dunn, you happen to be one of those people

I'm voting you more for the first thing, but the second makes me suspicous of the motivations behind the dunn wagon

Everyone instigates with Robb. Except me, I’m his favorite now, but definitely used to.

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I don't like skitter this game. I don't remember her post don't remember her posts being hollow as town.

Seems pretty Skitter-like to me, tbh, like I get why she’s saying the stuff, and I don’t even dislike it. I just don’t agree with it. Skitter, maybe it has to do with my townrobb read too, is still net positive for me.

I don’t even have the paranoia i usually get with Skitter, but that’s likely because of my Robb read.

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Garmr-Wake-Robb have at least 2 town within them.

terrible post although statistically is correct

Usually am unless it’s inverted.

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SkitterScum is easy to figure out.

If I die, she’s scum.

That’s it. That’s all I got.

Not actually easy. I specifically know for a fact that if Skitter is scum, she’s going to be town read and essentially be “townie”. That’s my biggest ScumSkitter tip tell for you guys. She will be generally town read when she is scum.

she replaced into an obvtown slot though
that was a town repout

I agree, except for the replacement part. Robb does stuff like that regardless of alignment.

Garmr’s reaction and general ‘tude is townie methinks. It’s not the most appreciated,obvi, not the most popular, but Garmr is townie.

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okay you disagree with me which means im correct

You could just be scum.

I have a rather strong town record this year.

And reads don’t matter. Results do.

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do you want to vote january ?

I’ve been urinating on that thought, we’ll see.

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I’m pretty sure your name in real life is just Mason.

You seem like one.

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That’s a total neutral statement, by the way. i just talk

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Is there any Masons out there this game to confirm?

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Hm...what do i think, what do i think....

I think tic-tac-toe would vote you if a wagon went up on you. I’m willing to test that theory, tbh, regardless of the read on you. It’s not like you’d actually get lynched there.

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January’s the only player this game I don’t have at least a bit of familiarity with. I don’t have much with Non, but I know the type of player they are.

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Everyone else in this game, I’m actually really good at reading, I believe, so plays will be made by players this game.

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can you not bring needless anxiety into my life

Why would it make you anxious if you wouldn’t get executed?

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in skitter30 i trust

That’s the #1 to lose to ScumSkitter, for future games, she’s probably just town here.

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I’d rather catch ScumSkitter.

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Win enough scum games nobody can trust your town game anymore. It’s a slippery slope.

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We’re usually town/town when we talk like this.

I’ve only misread you once, and even then I had you pegged the first day before i mistakenly switched. Happens.

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My way too early predictions for scum:

Gamma Emerald, MariaR, Dunnstral, Skellen, Unabombah, tictac

This list likely contains all the scum.

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Saudade
Non
Skitter
Wake
Garm
January

With the exception of January, whom I was starting to naturally want to vote, which means she’s probably town, i have decent reasons to wanna town read everyone here.

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I hope Unah’s town

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Una, my scum game’s changed a lot this year! My town game gets scum read a lot now too. Haha.

Skitter doesn’t like dealing with townMe when she’s scum because I’m all over the place and unpredictable

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If I’m scum, I avoid Saudade and N1 kill him. Let’s be honest

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Saudade’s like 1 of 2 players on site who can consistently shut me down.

The other being Gobbledygook, but I can at least control gamestate around him

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Yeah, it’s a very specific type of playstyle. I’m not quite sure what that is entirely.

It’s not just full stubbornness and loudness either, my wars with RadiantCowbells and Rb years back prove as much, as I generally game off favorably in 1v1’s against them.

Saudade I never do. Like never.

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I was the IC in a newbie game of his, and I went at him hard calling him scum Day 1, flipped on that read, then he ended up winning that game. That was the beginning of it

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promise i'll try to make real reads... eventually

i'm just reacting to things and trying to get interactions i guess

FL can you respond to 145 whenever you have time

I feel like I did, I just didn’t quote you directly

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Am I the only one a bit perturbed by thinking all of us might be Town? I know I am, but it just seems a bit too premature to be honest. Below is ranked in order.

Townlean

Null

Garmr
Robb
Flavor Leaf
Dunnstral

Scumlean

Even if it is too early, i don’t see a reason not to act like we aren’t just coming to the right conclusion.

Out of all of us, I’m inherently the ‘scummiest’ thus far, but I’m here to talk with people so they can accurately read me as town.

What you’re saying is you think every single player thus far is dead neutral then, nothing people have said has wiggled one way or another?

I am a hard pusher of townie actions does not equal town, and vice versa, which is what I was referringto when I brought up Dunn’s chain earlier. Adding separate actions of his together to see if it in total is a scum chain or a town chain.

How are you the scummiest so far, and why did you decide to note that? It’s not something I see you do typically, to call yourself out like that out of the blue.

I call it like I see it. Everyone else posting at the time I was strongly town reading, and if people had said they were town reading me strongly at that time, I’d have been upset.

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Gamma can go up to town. I’ve never seen them post like that towards me as scum

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Questioning my stuff, then laying a town read. Makes the questioning come off incredibly genuine.

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January/Una/Maria is my early game solve.

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Also, Skitter is saying that I’m saying I’m throwing all these town leans around, and implying I should be grouped in with them, which is a giant misrep.

I specifically stated I was the scummiest, at least surface level.

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I’m writing a Mafia episodic tv show for TikTok.

Basically scripting a 13player game in full with twists and turns, and funny characters.

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Y’all take pre page 10 stuff way too seriously.

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I’m a cop. Gtfo.

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Now check my wagon. Scum is on there.

Y’all been got.

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Non, Unah, Skitter, tic-tac-toe have scum in them, possibly multiple.

Never all scum, though. One scum definitely would be town reading me at this moment.

Also, my phone is autocorrecting Tic when i type the full name

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We lynch in those 4 today. Never the first option.

I will investigate one of the others.

“Cop” is in my role title, but that’s not the only part of it. I also am Loud, so I’ll be able to prove it eventually.

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Flavor, I like the idea of writing a show based on mafia, but like, does it have to be on TikTok? Also that stuff about distrusting townreads on you at that point makes total sense.

TikTok is rough right now, but in a couple years, if still around, it will morph into something else or something that replaces it. Big companies are just now starting to get into, so it’s already starting to morph.

That’ll just be the host app, I’m going to micro content it out, and make a pillar version of it for YT.

2020’s essentially becoming the start of my rise. 2019 was good to me, time to take advantage.

Imma main stream Mafia, guys. I have much more ideas in regards to content to Mafia. (I’m a filmmaker with a passion for narrative storytelling, and Mafia stuff would be a side hustle thing that I’d like to always have around.)

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If Gamma is the scum that’s town reading me, I will have a blind spot for him this game. Advanced warning.

I was waiting to bring this up after the 4th person voted me.

Also, while I still think Robb was townie, it was increasingly early, and Skitter is positioning herself quite well, and is generally townie for me, but she had that one post that was a bit off for me, which I brought up. I also doubt she needed my approval this game, and if she’s scum this game, it benefits her much more to go against me and discredit me early.

Saudade, if town, naturally doing it immediately puts focus that Scum make the play to do that as well.

Nom only voted RVS, and it’s likely because they recognized my name more than anyone else, so I don’t really have much follow up for Non, they’re dead neutral. In fact, I actually semi scum read it from gut, and they’re the type that I feel like I should be able to gut read really well. So this is lean Neutral.

Una I have bad bad bad scum vibes, which makes me think they’re town, but probably because I reaaaallly don’t want Una to be scum.

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Tbh it would be really cool if you could create some renditions of funny/classic moments from site history

I definitely base stuff off of site. I’ll see what I can do. I just started writing and concepting, but i have a good amount of content in general I’m creating right now. I’ll let y’all know when it’s done.

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Stop claiming

It’s okay for me to true claim cop because 1) it draws WIFOM protection towards me. 2) specific players are going to overthink it if they’re scum, and never going to want to kill me if they think I’m a VT.

You’re move, Skitts.

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I was also L-3, and Saudade wasn’t on me yet, which would have been an implied vote. It was a good time for me to claim, and I was waiting for the moment. I was drawing the wagon in.

VOTE: Tictac

Pretty sure this is scum.

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LAST NIGHT TOMORROW

hEllOoooooooOooooOooo townies of

Mini Normal 2111

. It’s me, the only Leaf that brings the Beef, your host of the LAST NIGHT TOMORROW show....

FLAVOR LEAF

Now, this game started a bit different, what with NO RVS what?!?! And I decided to take full advantage of that. I saw my role pm with Cop and a loud modifier, and I just knew...it’s time to make all the plays.

Gamma Emerald

- He was asking a lot of questions, and while reading it, I thought he was leaning towards trying to shade me with them, but then he threw down a town read, and has been generally conversing with me. ScumGamma doesn’t converse with me that way. Sure, he could be trying a pocket technique, but I don’t understand why he would ask the question he did. It came off really genuine like he could kind of see what I was saying, and might have even agreed, but needed more.

January

- i actually thought this was going to be the first major wagon, and I almost voted them, but then their more recent posts, I ended up actually liking a lot, and I was able to see their personality more. This instantly made their entire ISO townie in my eyes, especially because gamestate wise I DEFINITELY felt this was being setup for a wagon. I just have to find out where. Saudade brought it up, but that was too obvious. I don’t think it started there. I liked them bringing up that they looked the scummiest. That was game state awareness, even if they didn’t realize it. That was a mind meld for me.

Saudade

- I’m hesitant to put him here just because of paranoia reasons and if he’s scum he gets to go “haha, i was scum and you put me as green”. He just seemed genuine, and is likely going to put trust into skitter. He did this to me once when I was town, and I ended up solving the game. Like he didn’t do anything except sheep me, and I came in late game and caught A50/Garmr team and saved him from being a lynch. The interaction we had made me feel he was townie. I liked what he had to say even if it was a bunch of just casual talk. It didn’t seem like any agenda, and he was looking for some scum even if it doesn’t necessarily show a lot.

Garmr

- I think his interactions with Robb came off as townie, tbh...I understood the gripes, and while it wasn’t by any means a likable exchange, I thought it was genuine coming from Garmr. We’ll all gone aggro mode. It’s like the mafia equivalent of going Super Saiyan. He also seemed like one of the potential mislynch wagons to start. I’ve also caught Garmr earlier this year. He’s a deepwolf type, not an in your face type. I was scum against him recently, and he was all up in everyone’s faces, so much I thought he was our traitor partner there.

Wake88

- outdated meta, but he seems like he’s trying to keep the game organized, at least for himself, and I liked that. He was almost thoughtspewing, similar to what I do, but in a Wake fashion. I don’t have strong feelings about the slot, but that’s where I’m at.

Dunnstral

- Similar to wake, Dunn’s been piping in. He seems like he’s just taking everything in and looking to solve some stuff, but doesn’t have any real reads. That’s fine.

Skellen

-no posts really

Maria

- no posts really

Non

- I think they took the easy way out with the RVS wagon, and plan on coasting a bit, and then coming in, doing a few posts, then leaving again. It was an extremely easy RVS vote to just lay down and leave on. I’m stretching a bit here, but that’s why it’s in this tier alone.

Skitter

- Here’s the thing, I want to put Skitter below Una, but I do generally see townieness in her posts. That being said, SCUM SKITTER IS TOWNIE. People will go “Never lynch Skitter, she’s obv town” when Skitter is scum. She plays the “correct town play” when she is scum. I commented on my thoughts more earlier either this, how generally everything is townie, but then that one post, that one setup discredit me early. I think there’s definitely an above chance that she is scum. Also, Robb is the type to get angry as scum and replace out too, making the replace out itself completely NAI.

UnaBombah

- yeah, gut scum read. Similar reasons to Skitter, with the seemingly discrediting for gamestate purposes early. It’s a really strong play to get me pushed down early. I caught Unabombah as scum earlier in the year (with might I say the finest Vigilante shot of the year, thank you very much) and then we won a scum game together too, so he knows I know his scum game. Him going on the offense makes sense here to make me defensive towards him and have to appease him rather than me analyzing him as scum or town.

tictac

- the bandwagon hop is the exact spot that I believe scum was ready to go on. Gamestate dictated that town was likely to hop onto me with some pressure, so scum needed to pressure me to really get it going a little more. I was baiting this from the beginning of the game. I was town reading a lot of people, and if I was more correct than incorrect, which I believe I was. My early game town reads are generally pretty good, then mixed in with the almost lack of reasoning for voting me, the “implied reasonings” nature is exactly what scum do here, especially if they aren’t the leader of the scum team, which tictac definitely isn’t. This is why I think it’s extremely possible, and likely, that 2 scum are on my wagon right now, and that tictac is the 2nd.again, I believe scum is probably town reading me somewhere, and this one of my town reads are likely incorrect, but we’ll see how the gamestate is after a few pages after this.


That being said, VOTE: tictac i already was, but I always have a vote here.

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Have you ever wondered why saying “I’m up for it!” has the exact same meaning as saying “I’m down for it!” The words are opposites.

Will Skitter clap back after being pushed by the Leaf that brings the Beef?

Will Skellen and Maria ever show up to the party?!

WILL SAUDADE EVER STOP WITH THE CONSTANT DISCREDITING?!?!?!?

Find out next time on....LAST NIGHT TOMORROW!!!!!!

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LAST NIGHT TOMORROW

hEllOoooooooOooooOooo townies of

Mini Normal 2111

. It’s me, the only Leaf that brings the Beef, your host of the LAST NIGHT TOMORROW show....

FLAVOR LEAF

Now, this game started a bit different, what with NO RVS what?!?! And I decided to take full advantage of that. I saw my role pm with Cop and a loud modifier, and I just knew...it’s time to make all the plays.

Gamma Emerald

- He was asking a lot of questions, and while reading it, I thought he was leaning towards trying to shade me with them, but then he threw down a town read, and has been generally conversing with me. ScumGamma doesn’t converse with me that way. Sure, he could be trying a pocket technique, but I don’t understand why he would ask the question he did. It came off really genuine like he could kind of see what I was saying, and might have even agreed, but needed more.

January

- i actually thought this was going to be the first major wagon, and I almost voted them, but then their more recent posts, I ended up actually liking a lot, and I was able to see their personality more. This instantly made their entire ISO townie in my eyes, especially because gamestate wise I DEFINITELY felt this was being setup for a wagon. I just have to find out where. Saudade brought it up, but that was too obvious. I don’t think it started there. I liked them bringing up that they looked the scummiest. That was game state awareness, even if they didn’t realize it. That was a mind meld for me.

Saudade

- I’m hesitant to put him here just because of paranoia reasons and if he’s scum he gets to go “haha, i was scum and you put me as green”. He just seemed genuine, and is likely going to put trust into skitter. He did this to me once when I was town, and I ended up solving the game. Like he didn’t do anything except sheep me, and I came in late game and caught A50/Garmr team and saved him from being a lynch. The interaction we had made me feel he was townie. I liked what he had to say even if it was a bunch of just casual talk. It didn’t seem like any agenda, and he was looking for some scum even if it doesn’t necessarily show a lot.

Garmr

- I think his interactions with Robb came off as townie, tbh...I understood the gripes, and while it wasn’t by any means a likable exchange, I thought it was genuine coming from Garmr. We’ll all gone aggro mode. It’s like the mafia equivalent of going Super Saiyan. He also seemed like one of the potential mislynch wagons to start. I’ve also caught Garmr earlier this year. He’s a deepwolf type, not an in your face type. I was scum against him recently, and he was all up in everyone’s faces, so much I thought he was our traitor partner there.

Wake88

- outdated meta, but he seems like he’s trying to keep the game organized, at least for himself, and I liked that. He was almost thoughtspewing, similar to what I do, but in a Wake fashion. I don’t have strong feelings about the slot, but that’s where I’m at.

Dunnstral

- Similar to wake, Dunn’s been piping in. He seems like he’s just taking everything in and looking to solve some stuff, but doesn’t have any real reads. That’s fine.

Skellen

-no posts really

Maria

- no posts really

Non

- I think they took the easy way out with the RVS wagon, and plan on coasting a bit, and then coming in, doing a few posts, then leaving again. It was an extremely easy RVS vote to just lay down and leave on. I’m stretching a bit here, but that’s why it’s in this tier alone.

Skitter

- Here’s the thing, I want to put Skitter below Una, but I do generally see townieness in her posts. That being said, SCUM SKITTER IS TOWNIE. People will go “Never lynch Skitter, she’s obv town” when Skitter is scum. She plays the “correct town play” when she is scum. I commented on my thoughts more earlier either this, how generally everything is townie, but then that one post, that one setup discredit me early. I think there’s definitely an above chance that she is scum. Also, Robb is the type to get angry as scum and replace out too, making the replace out itself completely NAI.

UnaBombah

- yeah, gut scum read. Similar reasons to Skitter, with the seemingly discrediting for gamestate purposes early. It’s a really strong play to get me pushed down early. I caught Unabombah as scum earlier in the year (with might I say the finest Vigilante shot of the year, thank you very much) and then we won a scum game together too, so he knows I know his scum game. Him going on the offense makes sense here to make me defensive towards him and have to appease him rather than me analyzing him as scum or town.

tictac

- the bandwagon hop is the exact spot that I believe scum was ready to go on. Gamestate dictated that town was likely to hop onto me with some pressure, so scum needed to pressure me to really get it going a little more. I was baiting this from the beginning of the game. I was town reading a lot of people, and if I was more correct than incorrect, which I believe I was. My early game town reads are generally pretty good, then mixed in with the almost lack of reasoning for voting me, the “implied reasonings” nature is exactly what scum do here, especially if they aren’t the leader of the scum team, which tictac definitely isn’t. This is why I think it’s extremely possible, and likely, that 2 scum are on my wagon right now, and that tictac is the 2nd.again, I believe scum is probably town reading me somewhere, and this one of my town reads are likely incorrect, but we’ll see how the gamestate is after a few pages after this.


That being said, VOTE: tictac i already was, but I always have a vote here.

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Have you ever wondered why saying “I’m up for it!” has the exact same meaning as saying “I’m down for it!” The words are opposites.

Will Skitter clap back after being pushed by the Leaf that brings the Beef?

Will Skellen and Maria ever show up to the party?!

WILL SAUDADE EVER STOP WITH THE CONSTANT DISCREDITING?!?!?!?

Find out next time on....LAST NIGHT TOMORROW!!!!!!

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eh.
VOTE: saudade

Wait why did u flip ur vote

They’re scum who got scared after I claimed.

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What the fuck is the above post

Wow is that the first you’ve seen of that?
Buddy, you just got Boon’d (Flavor’d/Leaf’d doesn’t have the same zest)

It’s been a minute.

Most people who were in the LAST NIGHT TOMORROW game at the beginning of the year had no idea it was one of my plays in Mafia.

Yeah, keep the Boon’d. I’m still Boon.

It’s like calling the Heartbreak kid, Shawn Michaels, HBK.

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Can we vote january instead of tictactoe
Tic is being proactive even though very stoopid unlike jani who just sits and mastu..m

January’s just kinda cute newb townie, tbh. They felt like they were legit scummiest in the game, and I feel they were trying to be aware of it and fix it, and I don’t think scumJanuary does that ever. Dont think they’re bold enough yet, which makes sense. They don’t have the site experience to be comfortable doing that.

[Flavor Leaf]

Man, that felt good to get a Last Night Tomorrow out.

I saw Gamma and I soul reading each other, and had to make it because I knew he’d appreciate it.

[Flavor Leaf]

Ive never played with scum leaf so ill leave sorting leaf to the amazing skitter

Oh wow, you haven’t, huh.

Yeah, I’m pretty nasty as scum.

i actually think you’d be able to recognize it really well because you’ve played a good amount of town games with me, and zero scum games. I don’t think anyone else can say they haven’t experienced ScumMe. I’m quite possibly the most slippery and sneaky player on site when I’m scum.



And Saudade, that happened 1 game, and I also called out 3 scum that game.

Arguing back and forth in that manner is actually REALLY good for town because I will think the cases out loud, and go deep until I end up debunking it myself, and become aware I need to flip.

[Flavor Leaf]

Townreading Skitter, don't want to lynch but need to figure out January, don't have a top scumread

Are you saying you wouldn’t townread ScumSkitter?

[Flavor Leaf]

But what if Leaf is right about Skitt

When Leaf and I disagree on something that means im right and hes wrong

I dunno about that
Are you saying that you’ve NEVER been wrong in those instances? I will be petty and check if you say yes.

It was 1 game, and he had a Loyal Neighborizer masonry, and I was still right with half of the scum.

Earlier in the year, he sheeped me completely, and I caught the scum team through hard work and analysis. One of my best wagonomics solves.

[Flavor Leaf]

Its mostly a meme from a game where he objected to like all 4 of my back to back scum lynches in the most loud way possible im actually surprised i didnt hang him out of principle

Yeah, it was pretty hilarious tbh. You get to bring it up. That entire game was essentially just you and I yelling back and forth with each other, and then ending up both on the wagon I was defending to end the day with a giant town sweep.

To be fair, I did Nom you for a scummy for it

[Flavor Leaf]

Townreading Skitter, don't want to lynch but need to figure out January, don't have a top scumread

Are you saying you wouldn’t townread ScumSkitter?

Why are you trying to undermine the skitter townread

I lightweight scum read her. I gave my reasons why.

And ScumSkitter will slip through the game, kill me off early, and go for the win.

And I know nobody else likes to scum read Skitter, but she has the same chance at rolling scum as anyone else.

People are so quick to give her, the one with the Best Performance Mafia banner, a free pass so easily.

[Flavor Leaf]

Flavor did I ever have a game where I just dunked on Town!you as scum
I don’t think I have ever done that

I don’t think so either.

Saudade’s never dunked me as scum, I’d say he just beat me. It was like his first game on site, and I even brought up in that game I could have just been tunneling otherwise, and Saudade was scum.

We won a scum game together this year, though, right? Pokemon Fusion.

[Flavor Leaf]

Its mostly a meme from a game where he objected to like all 4 of my back to back scum lynches in the most loud way possible im actually surprised i didnt hang him out of principle

Yeah, it was pretty hilarious tbh. You get to bring it up. That entire game was essentially just you and I yelling back and forth with each other, and then ending up both on the wagon I was defending to end the day with a giant town sweep.

To be fair, I did Nom you for a scummy for it

Yeah nothing i say is an attack on your skills as a player, just bantering around while emphasizing where my reads stand

I have thick skin, no worries.

I banter on Gamma all the time when I bring up them lynching a role copped Miller in 3p lylo.

I was very persuasive that game, though.

I hate being in 3p lylo as scum, I think that’s the only time I’ve ever had that happen on site besides my Serial Killer win.

[Flavor Leaf]

I dont dunk anyone as scum anyway, i just chill until town mislynches each other

Yeah, I figured.

You’re a more aggro Creature, but if we were all put in categories for what type of player we are, I think you and Creature would definitely be in the same category.

[Flavor Leaf]

And Creature’s pub stomped. Actually, worse, Creatures gotten me to pub stomp myself.

Yeah, so that style I might be my style’s counter.

[Flavor Leaf]

You’re like a fusion between Creature and RadiantCowbells.

You have your own upbringing and backstory, though.

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m only talking playstyle wise. You got your own personality.

[Flavor Leaf]

I think that’s a personality trait.

[Flavor Leaf]

Although, personality does affect playstyle quite a bit.

[Flavor Leaf]

Saudade-Gamma-FL is the real town block rn.

You town read, Gamma, right Saud?

[Flavor Leaf]

Ohhh, maybe Eddie Cane like actually.

[Flavor Leaf]

Saudade-Gamma-FL is the real town block rn.

You town read, Gamma, right Saud?

Yes but i dont townread you

That’s fine. You haven’t seen scumMe, I expect you not to be able to read me well in general because of that.

Some players set out their mafia careers to be able to read me because I’m a hard read for most players.

[Flavor Leaf]

But what if Leaf is right about Skitt

When Leaf and I disagree on something that means im right and hes wrong

I dunno about that
Are you saying that you’ve NEVER been wrong in those instances? I will be petty and check if you say yes.

Its mostly a meme from a game where he objected to like all 4 of my back to back scum lynches in the most loud way possible im actually surprised i didnt hang him out of principle

Fair enough
I actually agree with your side re: Skitt but I feel like Leaf has a point

I really liked these posts for TownGamma, and that was just in last page alone.

[Flavor Leaf]

To be fair, RCEnigma for instance, knows how I am as scum, so when I am scum, I actively play in a way to avoid that. I make specific plays.

So I don’t think it’s always fair to say someone should be able to read you hands down.

Which works the opposite way too. can’t assume based off past games because they have Inverted Meta on people, so they know exactly what they would need to do differently.

[Flavor Leaf]

I personally think Garmr’s reads are so wack he’s gotta be town here.

Similar to when I thought he was my traitor recently

[Flavor Leaf]

Here’s the thing, I want to put Skitter below Una, but I do generally see townieness in her posts. That being said, SCUM SKITTER IS TOWNIE. People will go “Never lynch Skitter, she’s obv town” when Skitter is scum. She plays the “correct town play” when she is scum. I commented on my thoughts more earlier either this, how generally everything is townie, but then that one post, that one setup discredit me early. I think there’s definitely an above chance that she is scum.

I’m not advocating the lynch today, but i want people to be aware

[Flavor Leaf]

I personally think Garmr’s reads are so wack he’s gotta be town here.

Similar to when I thought he was my traitor recently

Pretty strong statement to be making when your reads are all over the place and it's page 15

I don’t base off reads. I base off gamestate. Scum naturally try to fit the gamestate.

Also, that’s the epitome of townFL, just saying.

My reads are far more nuanced because of it, because of seeing all the options.

[Flavor Leaf]

Robb replace out is NAI, and actually could even be Scum indicative if anything.

Rb replaced out in a very similar fashion against me once when he was scum early Day 1.

Robb is just as aggro. Don’t let skitter coast of that if she is scum

[Flavor Leaf]

LAST NIGHT TOMORROW

thank you for posting this twice to make sure we saw it

why do you think that all the scum are on your wagon?
you did say you knew you were scummy, and there were a few of your reads/posts that i didn't like either
i wouldn't vote you for it but i don't think it was particularly opportunistic or scummy for Non and Una to vote you
tictac, maybe

i guess i get why you think they're scum independently, but i doubt all scum would be on 1 wagon

I specifically said there was likely scum town reading me.

[Flavor Leaf]

So like, that entire post is invalid. I specifically don’t think all scum are on me, but scum is on me.

[Flavor Leaf]

Okay, guys...since you totally seemed to have it go right over y’alls heads...

My reads prior to my LNT was fake because I was baiting people onto my wagon.

I was specifically stating I was playing in a way for reactionary reasons, which is why I did the LNT.

My reads aren’t that all over the place, y’all just took them too seriously early.

[Flavor Leaf]

Because as it stands, Boon just reeks of scum to me.

I might just be so rusty that is't back through paranoia-town for me before I can get to playing again, but the way I see Boon up until this point, it's as if he literally has a name-tag for scum!Boon.

What makes FL so obviously scum to you? Because until his once again god awful claim (I want to puke ) he didn't really pinged me in any particular way. Did his behaviour post-claim changed your read on him?

People have been saying this, but like the last 3 times this has been happening, I’ve flipped the role I claimed...

I’ve been hard taking advantage of players reacting this way to my claims as both alignments

[Flavor Leaf]

I forgot that I feel that way about Maria when I’m scum.

I guess I town slipped since I’m not afraid of Maria at all this game

[Flavor Leaf]

That’s how you know I’m town

[Flavor Leaf]

Like people hate it when I say it, but people don’t call my posts out as bad when I’m scum.

Y’all want recent scum games of mine for examples?

10th Scum Victory this year of 2019, 5 of them were larges

Spoiler:

Let’s Talk About An On-Going Game - 9p Micro

The Room Odds - 9p Micro

One Night Ultimate Werewolf 81p Large Theme

Krazy’s Anime U-Pick 19p Large Theme

Mini Normal 2058 13p Mini Normal

Mini Normal 2073 - ramblings 13p Mini Normal

Pokemon Fusion U-Pick 17p Large Theme

Large Normal 222: Black Versus White 17p Large Normal

Mini Normal 2102: Mafia a la mode 13p Mini Normal

Large Normal 223: New Beginnings 21p Large Normal

[Flavor Leaf]

nothing you ever say makes sense to me garmr

I would like to say I'm hard to understand but to be honest I just run differently than the norm when scum hunting. Some understand me some don't.

+6

[Flavor Leaf]

Garmr’s fucking green now

[Flavor Leaf]

That line of thinking doesn’t come up right now from a ScumGarmr. It just doesn’t. That’s townGarmr being misunderstood and feeling the need to explain it

[Flavor Leaf]

I like to dunk

[Flavor Leaf]

And even then, you know I could do that, so as scum, you’d actively make plays around that.

[Flavor Leaf]

This TvT argument I read, and really don’t feel like responding.

[Flavor Leaf]

k, up to pg.11, taking a short break, just letting y'all know in case anyone cares, not scum, so until I think otherwise UNVOTE: Leaf

We just won a town game, we just won a town game.

I officially have meta on Nom.

[Flavor Leaf]

We lynch in those 4 today. Never the first option.

I will investigate one of the others.

“Cop” is in my role title, but that’s not the only part of it. I also am Loud, so I’ll be able to prove it eventually.

Do these still work for you?

I've been away from this site for some time, since I've been leading a more ascetic lifestyle now. So no metareads from here, but I do know how much Boon loves to fakeclaim as either alignment.

Sometimes.

[Flavor Leaf]

my first post might have screwed everything up
have tic,skel,garm as my solve but it seems too easy if true
I'll figure it out later, gn everyone, try jan

I respect this solve. I town read Garmr, but I respect the solve.

Also, Una, you’re so scum

This is gonna be a fun game when you finally go down day 3 ish.

[Flavor Leaf]

is skitter30 your topscumread still FL?

Never was. I’m voting TikTok

[Flavor Leaf]

tbh I don't read anything flavor leaf writes or says anymore I just read what people reply to him

I can’t ever do this thing. If I glance at it for a second, it instantly downloads

Weird flex, but okay.

[Flavor Leaf]

It’s TikTok and SkitSkat scum team, y’all

[Flavor Leaf]

Gamma and I can soul read each other, I can’t pocket him this early this successfully

[Flavor Leaf]

Also, I get that ScumGoo if I were to say that here and be scum.

ScumGoo, when scum has guilt when doing specific tactics to a townie, derived from ScumGuilt, ScumGu, ScumGoo.

Gamma doesn’t have any goo being dropped on him.

[Flavor Leaf]

Skitter knows I’m gonna cop her Night 1.

[Flavor Leaf]

like, what if she is? if both skitt and leaf are alive on lylo at least one of them is scum. one of them will bus the other before that happens if both are scum.

This is kind of really scummy.

Never is there a scenario where we both make it to lylo if one of us is scum.

I could be wrong on SkitterScum here, but that’s where I’m leaning, and her current push did nothing of the sort.

That was overdefensive turned into offense.

[Flavor Leaf]

who is your top townread Fl

You, boo.

And Gamma.

And January.

[Flavor Leaf]

ur narrative is that u intentionally drew a wagon on u as a pr?
tbh i'm kinda reluctant to vote a pr-claim, but not buing it ftr.

I hear this a lot

[Flavor Leaf]

no, i named all 4 scum in a 5 player poe, got nk'd, saudade sheeped me and iirc town proceeded to lynch scum back to back to back to back, and you actively protested at least 3 of the wagons

I had 3 scum named Day 1 too.

That’s the game I literally called out A50 as scum on his first post in the game.

[Flavor Leaf]

Lol, Skitter, this is absolutely not the path I take as scum. Not in a game with you, Saudade, and Dunn.

[Flavor Leaf]

I'm willing to lynhc mariar flavor leaf and tictac at this moment in time

Don’t lynch me. I’ll prove my role

[Flavor Leaf]

Who you in a neighborhood with Skitter? They’re likely town.

[Flavor Leaf]

Gamma what you think bout Maria, I’m null there

[Flavor Leaf]

I kind of liked her comments on me

[Flavor Leaf]

I mean, you’re wrong on me. Bold of you to be so confident with it

[Flavor Leaf]

wall posts yay

FL didn't non say they were new? wdym about having meta on them?

and im still waiting on answers from maria and non just putting that here to remind myself

The newbie we were in together just finished.

I was defending Non who was a doctor claim getting pushed.

We ended up getting scum that day phase and the next phase.

[Flavor Leaf]

he's competant of real posting, per newbie 1967

He was the epitome of newTown, so what do you mean by real posting?

[Flavor Leaf]

I'm willing to lynhc mariar flavor leaf and tictac at this moment in time

Don’t lynch me. I’ll prove my role

you realize that it's like ~ridiculously~ easy to fake a cop claim as scum, right ?

Sure. TellTaleHeart used to have a saying “You let Boon get away with a fake odd-night cop claim

again

?”

I don’t claim cop as scum anymore like that.

You don’t actually have much experience with ScumMe either, though. You have that Pretentious one, but that’s like an outlier of most of my scum games.

[Flavor Leaf]

So now you claim even night cop?

Precisely.



I can act Night 1 for sure, jk

[Flavor Leaf]

Honestly, people try to read me early for some reason, but anytime I’m the first scum dead I always win.

Which is why I know anyone who pushes me early just can’t read me or is scum.

My town game is so blatantly obvious like it is here, but people are just scared of the All Mighty Leaf

[Flavor Leaf]

Gamma is one of the people most familiar with me on site, he’s not going to town read me unless he actually thinks I’m town. He went through his FL paranoia phase years ago.

He’s an OG Boon Babe.

[Flavor Leaf]

Maria is Sakura Hana, right?

[Flavor Leaf]

Welp.

I’m not a Maria expert.

I’m townie on her, but the paranoia of her brings her to null since lack of major content.

But I tend to agree with what you said.

I really think Skitter is scum. She’s playing sneaky.

[Flavor Leaf]

he's competant of real posting, per newbie 1967

He was the epitome of newTown, so what do you mean by real posting?

he was capable of putting complex thoughts out into the thread

Not after I replaced in, and I don’t really know the beginning part of that game well tbh

[Flavor Leaf]

I really think Skitter is scum. She’s playing sneaky.

i'm trying to not turn this game into a 1v1 between us
but if you keep saying things like this you'll probably force it

Because you can’t handle being scum read as scum...?

I’m not even pushing you. If anything, if you’re town, I’m prolonging your life

[Flavor Leaf]

If Skit’s town, she’s got that Bad Boon Baranoia Fever going on

[Flavor Leaf]

I was true claiming that game too.

I literally claimed my real role that game

[Flavor Leaf]

sigh

ok

why am i scum?

we literally did this last time

so far you've just done the 'i'm calling skitter scum for vague reasons since she's good at it' but you haven't actually pointed to anything i've done here that's scummy

I’ve explained in my LNT and a little prior. No other reasons.

I’m not against the idea that I’m incorrect. It’s a reason I’m not trying to lynch you here anyways. You could be Town.

It’s similar to reasons why you should be able to step back and see you’re just tunneled if you’re town and to give breathing room. You can have your thoughts and bring it up. I don’t have anything new to say.

[Flavor Leaf]

it doesn't matter whether or not it's a true claim

it's noise and ought to be treated as such, and you shouldn't be read either way for it

I’ll just full claim then.

I’m a Disloyal Announcing PT Cop.

[Flavor Leaf]

Y’all wrong it’s noise. I’m on a true claiming hype. I change my playstyle, and you guys are all stuck in the past.

[Flavor Leaf]

it doesn't matter whether or not it's a true claim

it's noise and ought to be treated as such, and you shouldn't be read either way for it

I’ll just full claim then.

I’m a Disloyal Announcing PT Cop.

My plan was to get someone to confirm that I targeted them with the PT Cop, and then guilty them.

You can see that clearly from my posts.

[Flavor Leaf]

But we drew out ScumNon from that scenario, so it did the same thing.

[Flavor Leaf]

it doesn't matter whether or not it's a true claim

it's noise and ought to be treated as such, and you shouldn't be read either way for it

I’ll just full claim then.

I’m a Disloyal Announcing PT Cop.

you realize this isn't a cop, right?

what's announcing mean?

and what's the difference between pt cop and traffic analysit?

Traffic Analyst needs to be able to talk to someone somewhere, so if they’re the only one in a neighborhood, it won’t be positive.

PT Cop just has to be in a PT.

Announcing means whoever I target would have received “You’ve been targeted by a PT Cop.”

[Flavor Leaf]

VOTE: Non

Skitter’s raised a little bit because there’s a high chance they’re just super tunneled town.

Gotta be able to break out of that.

[Flavor Leaf]

You got Boon Fever, so it’s a little excusable .

[Flavor Leaf]

You were also completely missing that Gamma was much more likely to pocketing me than the other way around this game, and even TownGamma would see that here. Gamma’s been burned by ScumMe too much years ago to give away town reads like that on me.

[Flavor Leaf]

Well, okay.

You’re dead wrong, though, and going after me Day 1 is just in general typical poor play. Everyone reads Day 1 me because it’s the most memorable, but I’m a town ADC, i start off not being able to go well, but late game, I’mma carry the dps for the town

[Flavor Leaf]

Spoiler:

Pretentious, Mafia 2-shot Jailkeeper, lynched Day 3

I’m a Jailkeeper. Take it for what you will.

That’s why I faked the BP, so i could make the comment if I stopped a kill.

That is not a me fake claim

“But it could be a TRUE claim as scum”

Yeah, no, I don’t really do that either.

i just assume that whatever he claims is a lie tbh

viewtopic.php?p=9861187#p9861187

Nevermind, I did fake claim as town there.

And I was the Day 1 lynch.

Meta BROKEN

fl i'm prob voting for you but i'm waiting for a vc

Skitter’s probably scum here.

My entire premise of high posting and going crazy was to see how Skitter would react, as I said.

She’s scum because she’s waiting it out and building towards the vote towards me. Scum 100% was pushing me/settting up to vote me.

I don’t claim my real role when I’m scum either, so if i were scum here, why would I be a scum jailkeeper and claim that?

I didn’t wanna claim my role yet, so if you quit being surface level.

I could also see Bob being scum trying to “convince themselves” to come onto me.

@january, from a different game ^^

flavor started playing the game on his mortality alt, and then switched to pretentious; it's all him tho

he is utterly capable of doing just this as scum

i'll check up on that game after
but i was more townreading him for setting up the claim earlier with the "bad reads"
i can definitely see him claiming as mafia and that game supports that
but i felt like this game he cornered himself into claiming so he planned it before the game even started

if that makes any sense

i think he is capable of this as scum

just remember for when i inevitably die that i think he's scummy, ty

Being capable of it as scum, doesn’t mean it’s coming from scum nor is there any reason for it to happen as scum.

[Flavor Leaf]

it doesn't matter whether or not it's a true claim

it's noise and ought to be treated as such, and you shouldn't be read either way for it

I’ll just full claim then.

I’m a Disloyal Announcing PT Cop.

I still get a result from targeting, so this isn’t useless still. Scum will just also know I have a result on them.

I get guilties on possible traitors as well because they’re not in a PT, bar neighbor, but they would still give me a “not in a PT” result, which is a guilty with disloyal.


I even asked Skitter earlier about if she had a neighbor or not because I wanted her to confirm that, so later I could potentially catch her out with her own words and not have to put my disloyal right away

[Flavor Leaf]

I’ve kind of turned on tictac a bit more too. Not enough to town read, but i don’t necessarily think they’re scum.

[Flavor Leaf]

what was the point of claiming right there?
i don't think anyone was following skitter on voting you

@FL

and also what's the point of PT cop if you're disloyal? isn't any disloyal investigative role already basically a cop

I was annoyed because of the noise comment and I needed to prove it for ego centric reasons.

[Flavor Leaf]

Non literally voted me, Saudade’s already brought up being willing to vote me.

Gamestate was leaning that way

[Flavor Leaf]

Nom/Una and one of my town reads or Skellen is likely the scum team.

[Flavor Leaf]

I got an ego, but I’ll put the game victory over everything still.

[Flavor Leaf]

Still think it’s a scum tactic, and Unah’s distancing

[Flavor Leaf]

Not a team scum tactic. Individual

[Flavor Leaf]

Haven’t backtracked once, always moving forward

[Flavor Leaf]

Can you guys not be trash

[Flavor Leaf]

Can you guys not be trash

Also, this is never a thing i would say as scum

[Flavor Leaf]

I haven’t gotten annoyed in a game in a long time.

Absolutely don’t give a fuck anymore.

Lynch me, be bad. I will consistently bring up afterwards. This is pure paranoia. The player who can read me the best is literally town reading me strongly, so no, it’s absolutely 100% not even me.

On my flip, you’ll see my claim is real too.

It’s just y’all being trashy

[Flavor Leaf]

Officially quitting this game for the remainder of the day phase.

[Flavor Leaf]

Gamma
Garmr
Saudade
Skitter

January
tictac

Skellen
Wake
Non
Dunnstral

MariaR
UnaBombah

Even my prodges are prodigal.

If I go down today, I guarantee you Una is scum, and Maria is a partner.

100% with Una, 98% Maria partner.

Garmr/Gamma defended me far too much to be scum, i feel they’ve actually legit saved me, tbh.

Saudade/Skitter had no reason to move votes as scum here.

Tic tac is mislynch bait.

January also is genuinely defending me.

Skellen could go either way, i liked his posts, but he’s fence sitting kinda. This could be a possible 3rd, wake’s Poe possible 3rd, as is Dunn mixed with other things pushed by the skitlord.

Non could be the 3rd, but i don’t really think all 3 scum come to me right now, it’s possible considering Nom’s newer.

But Una IS scum. Maria likely. Look at Una/Maria pairing.

I’ll see you next day phase or in like 36 hours when I gotta prodge again.

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m building a true claiming meta lately, so

I’m town. Just remember what I said after I flip.


Also, anyone who calls me lazy and then pushes as scum, is obviously scum

[Flavor Leaf]

VOTE: Dunnstral

Strictly survival and sheeping the town reads.

[Flavor Leaf]

Una’s one of the people I’m closest to on site, we’ve been playing together for years. He’s an OG Boon Babe.

I can always have 100% confident there

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m building a true claiming meta lately, so

I’m town. Just remember what I said after I flip.


Also, anyone who calls me lazy and then pushes as scum, is obviously scum

Could you please answer my question regarding the discrepancy in your claims?

What discrepancy...?

I claimed Cop.

Then I claimed the next part of it.

Zero discrepancy.

I’m a claimer, it’s what I do.

My role has the word cop in it. It’s WIFOM to the scum team.

[Flavor Leaf]

I guarantee you, I can say fully, that I true claimed, and scum team still aren’t gonna believe it, even though I actually true claimed. And that’s the beauty of it

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m a Disloyal Announcing PT Cop.

Why did you say you were Loud, not Announcing? You also claimed that you would be able to prove yourself via your "Loud" modifier at some point (post 255); however, your subsequent claim of "disloyal" means that, if we assume you are town, it will only announce itself to Mafia who, if you are not a part of, would have no rationale for supporting your claim. I don't understand this.

Nah, I’ll have a good night action.

[Flavor Leaf]

Announcing and loud are interchangeable on the claiming front.

[Flavor Leaf]

It’s a claim that never comes from scum me. You say it doesn’t make sense.

My claims ALWAYS make sense when I’m scum

[Flavor Leaf]

If anything my claims are usually way too convenient when I am scum.

[Flavor Leaf]

Funny thing is the more I’m mislynched as town the better my scum game becomes because I get way more ammunition.

And I’ve already had an all time great scum year.

2020 will be a town year for me

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m one of the, if not the, strongest scum players on site right now.

If anyone thinks any of this comes from a ScumFL, I’m just gonna laugh and accept my lynch to show how incredibly poor of a read that is.

The only reasoning someone can give here is if you’re pushing the fact “FL is scum purposefully playing scum badly to make the case he’d never play like that as scum.” which is fine. I get that. I would do something like that.

I’m not, but it’s not out of my galaxy sized scum range.

I unsubbed this game when I quit, so...if that shows you where I stand with this game.

[Flavor Leaf]

OR HE HAD A REASON TO DO THAT AS TOWN? Like you seem to be exclusive viewing that as scumplay, this ducking Flavor Leaf we’re talking about. You need a unique set of rules just for him.

I don't know what his meta is like, but I do know that when you're Scumhunting you're supposed to look for inconsistencies.

Him claiming one modifier and then later claiming the opposite modifier to me looks inconsistent.

I’m the most consistent scum player on site.

I’m the most inconsistent town player on site.

[Flavor Leaf]

Y’all can just lynch me to see how next level town I actually am

[Flavor Leaf]

I claim loud instead of announcing because it was similar and specifically not the same.

I never claim my exact role as town, you gotta keep those surprises.

Flip me.

[Flavor Leaf]

And the god that is the TownLeaf will be shown this game.

[Flavor Leaf]

My religion is burrito.

[Flavor Leaf]

If y’all think I’m going to play scum in a way to risk my near perfect scum year, ya crazy.

[Flavor Leaf]

I dont really know what to do with you basically giving up

You see that’s a thing I never do as scum

You just finished a game with me where I was caught like page 6, and I overput the effort and lasted until Day 3.

That’s also the only scum win of mine this year that I died in.

[Flavor Leaf]

People just want me to be scum here.

[Flavor Leaf]

People get off at catching ScumFL, but if I were scum here, I’d never be in this position.

I play too much teamwork as scum.

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m already lynched essentially.

Wake is off the wagon, but he’s been setting his trajectory up in case he has to join.

[Flavor Leaf]

Also, I’m Complex, not Disloyal.

Do with that what you will. The reason should be obvious why I wasn’t claiming it.

[Flavor Leaf]

so you're complex announcing pt cop

why do you claim disloyal instead of complex ... those are obviously very different

what does complex even do? only works on prs?

Yup.

I was hoping to hit scum, and then they’d fight the guilty by saying they didn’t get the thing because they were town, and I’d be like, welp, if you were town, you’d have gotten it. Boom, baby!

Plus complex means I don’t get Mafia Goons, even though they’d be in a PT.

[Flavor Leaf]

no scum prs or people in neighborhoods

and announces your action to them

is that right?

I can only hit Scum PR’s and people in neighborhoods, yeah

[Flavor Leaf]

Well, I still get the result if they are a PR outside of a neighborhood

[Flavor Leaf]

FL why arent you pushing your scumread to get lynched instead of being in scum survival mode mindset

I don’t need to actively push.

My stances are out there and my pressure is felt.

People can just look at where I stand, and look at Wagonomics.

Multiple scum are pushing me right now.

I’m too good of a mislynch here for them to pass up, especially when they thought I was disloyal.


The fact that Saudade and Skitter are the 2 people deciding it proves that scum is on me already.

[Flavor Leaf]

im tempted to lynch you just to make you stop making these fake claims every game fl

How would it stop me at all...?

Y’all just have to stop acting like it’s me claiming.

I fully state that I state roles not claim them. When it’s down to the down and dirty, you’ll know.

[Flavor Leaf]

There’s zero chance I’m scum here. You just played against ScumMe that was hit hard Day 1.

[Flavor Leaf]

The fact that Saudade and Skitter are the 2 people deciding it proves that scum is on me already.

I mean you're apparently tring both of us so

Cuz y’all town

[Flavor Leaf]

I’ve actually had a pretty strong town year as well this year, and the ones where I didn’t have correct reads, I still won those games too.

[Flavor Leaf]

My thought process behind everything is rather simple.

Claiming Cop makes scum think I’m not actually a PR, and my role name technically says Cop, so it’s still a crumb.

Claiming Loud which is similar but not exactly announcing does the same thing, and allows players to know I will have an ability that informs you that you were targeted.

Claiming Disloyal protects our PR’s in the case it comes up that they bring up the fact they got the announcement, however scum would never bring that up and would fight me instead. A townie would bring up they got something still.

[Flavor Leaf]

So you get results on all prs, but can only get a 'positive' on scum prs or town in neighborhoods

And you claimed disloyal so that if you got a result on scum prs ... wait explain this bit again

Yeah, if I target a PR that’s not in a PT, I will get “Not in a PT” rather than No Result.

This ups the chance of there being a traitor, however, because a “Not In A PT” result essentially is an Innocent. That result proves that they can’t be Groupscum.

[Flavor Leaf]

Which is what I was trying to hide for a few nights before I flipped.

[Flavor Leaf]

But admittedly, I was a bit too next level here.

[Flavor Leaf]

Too next level too early. I could have spread it out more, but impulsively claimed my disloyal too early. I meant to later in Day 1, possibly twilight.

[Flavor Leaf]

If you're disloyal the townie wouldnt get anything from you ... i dont get it

When a tpr challenges claims the visit and challenges you all we got out of this is that you outed tprs

Exactly. If I’m disloyal the townie wouldn’t get it, except I’m not disloyal, I’m complex. The townie would get it and be confused.

Scum wouldn’t be because they would think I’m disloyal. That’s exactly it

[Flavor Leaf]

That isnt a town role, i'm p sure

And if it is i really dont think that's how town plays it, even town!you

Well, my play is clearly there.

If you can’t comprehend it, then I definitely went to next level with it.

[Flavor Leaf]

I will flip Town Complex Announcing PT Cop.

Not much else to say to that.

It was a great gambit, but it required a different playerlist, I feel.

Good work, Gamma. I’m glad you could see this was clearly the mind of TownMe.