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[Gamma Emerald]

Question to Robbnva and Dunnstral why did you vote town?

Town winrate is lower when lynching mafia day 1

I dare you to prove this

[Gamma Emerald]

You’re not pseudo confirmed town so that’s a lie.

Yes I’m being honest when I say I’m town. You have lied though so I can’t trust you anymore.

Robb tell me what pseudo means?

Hey you used the word first, you should know what it means

[Gamma Emerald]

Honestly don’t remember off the top of my head. I think it means “sort of”

It means": being apparently rather than actually as stated " So me being pseudo confirmed means I'm not confirmed. I'm pseudo confirmed because I say I am.

So it’s bullshit?
VOTE: Garmr

[Gamma Emerald]

Am I the only one a bit perturbed by thinking all of us might be Town? I know I am, but it just seems a bit too premature to be honest. Below is ranked in order.

Townlean

Null

Garmr
Robb
Flavor Leaf
Dunnstral

Scumlean

How much is this list is joking versus serious
Because it’s kinda really funny

[Gamma Emerald]

Am I the only one a bit perturbed by thinking all of us might be Town? I know I am, but it just seems a bit too premature to be honest. Below is ranked in order.

Townlean

Null

Garmr
Robb
Flavor Leaf
Dunnstral

Scumlean

Even if it is too early, i don’t see a reason not to act like we aren’t just coming to the right conclusion.

Out of all of us, I’m inherently the ‘scummiest’ thus far, but I’m here to talk with people so they can accurately read me as town.

What you’re saying is you think every single player thus far is dead neutral then, nothing people have said has wiggled one way or another?

I am a hard pusher of townie actions does not equal town, and vice versa, which is what I was referringto when I brought up Dunn’s chain earlier. Adding separate actions of his together to see if it in total is a scum chain or a town chain.

How are you the scummiest so far, and why did you decide to note that? It’s not something I see you do typically, to call yourself out like that out of the blue.

[Gamma Emerald]

People need to stop having high expectations for page 1 votes. I swear every game somebody gets mad cause I didn’t have good logic and cause of that 30 pages of arguing and death tunneling.

Yes I misunderstood pseudo fine. But pushing for my lynch when I have in my sig that if you come after me, I’ll death tunnel you is really all I need. Garmr did cross a line and was reported to both game and site mods and I am a petty little bitch so Garmr can go to hell and die (in this game, not irl. Have to make that clear).

Now I’ll ignore Garmr and continue to play the game. I’ll ask questions and give tonight’s but right now my anger is guiding me and I want Garmr dead. If I have to do crazy things go make it happen, I will buy I’d rather not so for now I won’t.

Seems a bit unfair to go ham on Garmr for that, like am I not supposed to push you if I think you’re scum, just because of the threat of being death tunneled? I’ll agree the calling you volatile was a bit out of line, though maybe not report worthy. But like you’re taking standard gameplay personally imo

[Gamma Emerald]

I can’t deal with another game of arguing. I’ll just blacklist Garmr

I feel like this is not the first time he’s said this tbh
Like nothing against him but I definitely recall him and Garmr not getting along in the past so...

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm going to igore robb, i think
Garmr feels a little weird on the first page, not sure i can articulate why tho

Ok this slot is town
Don’t see scum saying that about their predecessor

[Gamma Emerald]

Garmr-Wake-Robb have at least 2 town within them.

terrible post although statistically is correct

Statistically correct? That’s a bold statement on page 5

[Gamma Emerald]

Unless you think there are mafia sided 3rd party masons

Third parties aren’t in mini normals
But FYI I think you’re town, but unless someone backs you up I’m ignoring your mason claim. You’re worse than mastina in that region.

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm going to igore robb, i think
Garmr feels a little weird on the first page, not sure i can articulate why tho

Ok this slot is town
Don’t see scum saying that about their predecessor

This is dumb reasoning IMO

Only if they did realize who they replaced
Which I have no reason to believe rn

[Gamma Emerald]

do you want to vote january ?

I’ve been urinating on that thought, we’ll see.

WHAT

[Gamma Emerald]

that's exactly what I would say if I was mafia

funny semantic thing but i feel like saying this

based on experience in like 8 games
town is more likely to say "that's what maf would do"
mafia is more likely to say "that's what i'd do

as mafia

"

not a read by any means but
i want it to be true

Out of context I didn’t exactly like this but with context it’s aight, idk if I agree but it’s interesting to think anout

[Gamma Emerald]

Where I’m at rn
Town: Skitter, Flavor, Saudade
Scum: Garmr

[Gamma Emerald]

Ok then
Still think you’re town but I’m not super certain now

[Gamma Emerald]

Btw @january what’s your take on Robb’s replace out?

[Gamma Emerald]

Dunnstral

, sometimes people don’t realize who they replaced. I also have a hard time telling who is alive and dead in a game with deaths having occurred that I replace into, so there’s that.

Flavor

, I like the idea of writing a show based on mafia, but like, does it

have

to be on TikTok? Also that stuff about distrusting townreads on you at that point makes total sense.

January

, I guess that definition for statistically correct works but it seemed weird the way he said it. Also noted wrt your stance on Robb/skitter, I like it btw, I was checking for a possible discrepancy with the Forest Fire game where RC kinda did the same thing as Robb in a way.

(btw the bolded names is a somewhat new thing for me, I recall I used it in Perfect Masquerade as a demo. In addition I recall Taly used to do the same thing. Anyway, I want to really go for it this game)

PEdit: oh dear Lordy what

[Gamma Emerald]

Tic-tac-toe what was the reason you voted Flavor? I really don’t see anything from what you posted. On that thought, it seems most of your posting rn is these big response walls, with just feel rather gunky. I know I tend to have a lot of junk responses or things that feel that way, but for me it’s because I tend to do it post by post and it helps me in case I need to step away for a bit and then return to keep my place. With the big walls, it just ends up being junk.

[Gamma Emerald]

Tbh it would be really cool if you could create some renditions of funny/classic moments from site history

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Tictac

Dunnstral

, I don’t really feel like Flavor is abandoning reads here, he’s just choosing which ones to press.

[Gamma Emerald]

I don’t see any hard conflict
The first is a PoE, the second is more of a team guess, and the third is calling out those who voted him

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma is here?

Dunno if I responded to this yet, yeah I’m here and I’m ready to heckin roll son

[Gamma Emerald]

-

Good post

Not really

[Gamma Emerald]

Maybe
But it wasn’t a town post

[Gamma Emerald]

What the fuck is the above post

Wow is that the first you’ve seen of that?
Buddy, you just got Boon’d (Flavor’d/Leaf’d doesn’t have the same zest)

[Gamma Emerald]

Can we vote january instead of tictactoe
Tic is being proactive even though very stoopid unlike jani who just sits and mastu..m

Nah
I like Jan’s read on Robb/Skitt

[Gamma Emerald]

But what if Leaf is right about Skitt

[Gamma Emerald]

But what if Leaf is right about Skitt

When Leaf and I disagree on something that means im right and hes wrong

I dunno about that
Are you saying that you’ve NEVER been wrong in those instances? I will be petty and check if you say yes.

[Gamma Emerald]

Its mostly a meme from a game where he objected to like all 4 of my back to back scum lynches in the most loud way possible im actually surprised i didnt hang him out of principle

Fair enough
I actually agree with your side re: Skitt but I feel like Leaf has a point

[Gamma Emerald]

Flavor did I ever have a game where I just dunked on Town!you as scum
I don’t think I have ever done that

[Gamma Emerald]

Flavor did I ever have a game where I just dunked on Town!you as scum
I don’t think I have ever done that

I don’t think so either.

Saudade’s never dunked me as scum, I’d say he just beat me. It was like his first game on site, and I even brought up in that game I could have just been tunneling otherwise, and Saudade was scum.

We won a scum game together this year, though, right? Pokemon Fusion.

Yup

[Gamma Emerald]

I dont dunk anyone as scum anyway, i just chill until town mislynches each other

You don’t have to be actively scumming to dunk someone, you just have to hard play them, make it so they never suspected you

[Gamma Emerald]

My playatyle doesnt consist of never lynching females so i dont see how we are similar

What

Is this another “age of cat fishing”-type post
(Btw I think the only person in this game who’ll get that is Maria)

[Gamma Emerald]

Also after the last game I had with Gamma he should be able to pick up I'm town straight away.

It feels like way too many people think this about themselves

Agreed
Like I don’t try to pick up on each individual person’s play and factor it in sequentially
I only really care to pay attention to people I already have a long and storied meta train with. So like Flavor could make this point and it’d hold weight, but Garmr doing it doesn’t.

[Gamma Emerald]

do you scumread gamma? or is he just null

Scum

because he couldnt pin point you as town after your last game together?

No him town reading me for hinting a role to him (I was but that's not the issue). So after that him scum reading me for saying I'm pseudo confirmed town as joke seems farfetched.

Yeah no, those aren’t equal
Just because I read you right once doesn’t make me a god at reading you. And like the vote wasn’t 100% because I scumread you, I just wanted to apply pressure to something that looked rather questionable. To me, what you were saying boiled down to is “I’m town because I say so”. Which is definitely something that seems scum motivated but at the same time is just a shitty line in general.

[Gamma Emerald]

I personally think Garmr’s reads are so wack he’s gotta be town here.

Similar to when I thought he was my traitor recently

Pretty strong statement to be making when your reads are all over the place and it's page 15

Can you stop with this
Tbh it’s rather scummy

[Gamma Emerald]

Robb replace out is NAI, and actually could even be Scum indicative if anything.

Rb replaced out in a very similar fashion against me once when he was scum early Day 1.

Robb is just as aggro. Don’t let skitter coast of that if she is scum

This is a solid take
But you can read other people based on their reactions + reads on it, like I did with January

[Gamma Emerald]

Skellen is my favorite player in the game now

Idk about favorite but I’m townreading him rn

[Gamma Emerald]

Good post

"reacting is a scum thing"

lol this is literally just a bunch of... reactions

Which is why I scumread Tictac’s post. It reads like how I post but mine serves an extra purpose that clearly isn’t in play because wall post.

[Gamma Emerald]

Also,

Maria

, I said out of context because I had read that post earlier and my first reaction was like “ew no”

[Gamma Emerald]

Also MariaR what do you think about Una soft claiming masons with you?

is this really a good question to ask...
the only thing it does is help you figure out whether they're actually mason buddies or not

i don't think any answer to that question will further the game
unless you think they're mafia together or something

In fact if Garmr wants to reference New Beginnings I’ll do it too, that’s actually really shady given what happened that game (me and Carcalilly actually were Masons, and Carca kinda went Ham And Cheese with the crumbing, to the point where when JJD (aka A50) called me out, I decided it wasn’t worth it to keep it on the dl).

[Gamma Emerald]

Because as it stands, Boon just reeks of scum to me.

I might just be so rusty that is't back through paranoia-town for me before I can get to playing again, but the way I see Boon up until this point, it's as if he literally has a name-tag for scum!Boon.

What makes FL so obviously scum to you? Because until his once again god awful claim (I want to puke ) he didn't really pinged me in any particular way. Did his behaviour post-claim changed your read on him?

People have been saying this, but like the last 3 times this has been happening, I’ve flipped the role I claimed...

I’ve been hard taking advantage of players reacting this way to my claims as both alignments

you're so cringe this game man

“You just posted cringe bro youre gonna lose subscribers”

[Gamma Emerald]

That line of thinking doesn’t come up right now from a ScumGarmr. It just doesn’t. That’s townGarmr being misunderstood and feeling the need to explain it

Nah
His other stuff so far is way too questionable to clear him off that
Scum can say the same things, it’s just a bit of self-awareness
Now if you can show me how scum!Garmr typically isn’t that self-aware I might give it more weight

[Gamma Emerald]

Because you’re blatantly mason fishing and given what happened that game I would definitely expect you to not do that.

[Gamma Emerald]

It can scare the town off of pushing them
And like what benefit do you see, because if you are doing that when you can’t back it up then the only thing I can see is reaction-based.

[Gamma Emerald]

I have a soft spot for Tic Tac after he told gamma how stupid his take on me using the word pseudo. My gut is telling me Tic Tac is most likely mislynch bait. That being said gamma comes off as scum to me Skitters prob town.

Looking back Skitter took a risk and scum read me when I was a universal town read to the active players. Her reasoning was awful but that doesn't just come from town. Gamma through his reasoning was like the worst I ever seen. Because at the end of the day it's kinda a joke and i'm not being serious. So what reason would town think scum would do this over town?

His town reads with flavour and sausade are easy to make as well.

Also after the last game I had with Gamma he should be able to pick up I'm town straight away.

In fact, you really should tell me this “town benefit”, because I just ISOed you to figure out exactly why you suspect me because I didn’t recall anything really expanding on that, and you claim it was a joke, but now you act like there is some positive to it
So like, show me you’re not being revisionist here

[Gamma Emerald]

I actually tried to quote that for something else btw
That first paragraph feels like pocketing so a Garmr scumflip lowers Tictac’s odds of being scum imo

[Gamma Emerald]

It could have created PR paranoia. And like this definitely feels like you’re scum just shouting “reaction test!” about a play you made that didn’t work out right. And like, if you are seriously calling me scum because you decided to make some dumb play and I called you out, then get freaking real. Like you honestly did the opposite thing to that other game. That time you leaned into the play you were doing, this game you edged away from it. So if you want to say I should be reading you X way because of that game, X should be scum, not town.

And I’m really not sure if “locking scum into playing a certain way” is a very applicable idea coming from you, gimme a second.

[Gamma Emerald]

What bombshell lmfao
And like, I could be doing any number of things, get over yourself

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah you were part of that shitshow where the masons made the mistake of pushing each other
So like based on that it kinda baffles me you find this a productive line of inquiry regarding the possibility of masons
And because I cut myself short to go look for that game, you’d know alignments as scum, yes, but you wouldn’t know roles, and it would be very nice to get masons to claim super early and get them out of the way. I don’t see how that is in any way a point that would exonerate you.

[Gamma Emerald]

I could see Garmr as town but he’s not doing himself any favors rn

[Gamma Emerald]

Lol at that tiktok wall
And like, you make a bit of a show of asking why I vote you and respond to none of the actual reasoning, looks like you just want to doubtcast my vote

[Gamma Emerald]

He claimed some kind of cop so we'll see what happens anyway

it has approximately zero bearing on his actual role

=

But what if Leaf is right about Skitt

hi, i think flavor is trying to pocket you

=

It was 1 game, and he had a Loyal Neighborizer masonry, and I was still right with half of the scum.

no, i named all 4 scum in a 5 player poe, got nk'd, saudade sheeped me and iirc town proceeded to lynch scum back to back to back to back, and you actively protested at least 3 of the wagons

=

For me the townbloc is gamma skitter now

if fl is scum gamma is town

=

oh cool saudade is town

=

dunn might be town too

FL might be pocketing me but he’s still town

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma can join in too

Idk about that, would rather not change my vote too much

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma what you think bout Maria, I’m null there

I forgot why exactly but I do like her posting

[Gamma Emerald]

No
Sakura Hana is Luna Fox, or Kaede Akamatsu
None of those are Maria

[Gamma Emerald]

it doesn't matter whether or not it's a true claim

it's noise and ought to be treated as such, and you shouldn't be read either way for it

I’ll just full claim then.

I’m a Disloyal Announcing PT Cop.

you realize this isn't a cop, right?

what's announcing mean?

and what's the difference between pt cop and traffic analysit?

I could tell he wasn’t claiming standard Alignment Cop by how he phrased his claim
Anyway this post feels rather puffed
FYI I just kinda made “puffed” up right now, but it’s like loading a solid questioning with more junky content to make it feel like it’s heavier with actual content when the junk is what it is
Like skitter has decent lines of thought but it seems loaded with garbage made to seem like solid logical thought

[Gamma Emerald]

yeah, fl-jan-una is my solve,, GE has a false positive on fl
k, I had fun, lynch me,, LYNCH ME
if you're town, LYNCH ME, but only if you're really town
VOTE: Non

what..

1. can you explain your earlier reads or your current reads
2. why the heck are you self voting
3. what.

He’s just trolling, ignore him.

[Gamma Emerald]

You were also completely missing that Gamma was much more likely to pocketing me than the other way around this game, and even TownGamma would see that here. Gamma’s been burned by ScumMe too much years ago to give away town reads like that on me.

Btw meant to bring this up but he’s right that I’m the one more likely to be “pocketing” here

[Gamma Emerald]

more junky content to make it feel like it’s heavier with actual content when the junk is what it is

No, this was me feeling lazy and wanting someone to just tell me so i wouldnt have to go to the wiki

Not the response I expected
I thought you did know and were quizzing him

[Gamma Emerald]

Garmr’s last few posts mildly confuse me but also they give me better vibes than his previous posting

[Gamma Emerald]

Btw I’m legit not gonna try reading non lmh, I’ll wait for a replacement until I read that slot at all
Dude is obv trolling, in way that imo is against the spirit of the game

[Gamma Emerald]

You suddenly started only being okay with lynching Flavor, why?

[Gamma Emerald]

You suddenly started only being okay with lynching Flavor, why?

Wat
I was okay with tictac maria and fl

You suddenly started only being okay with lynching Flavor, why?

Why do you say suddenly anyway, theres been a lot of content in between my statements anyway

You just switched to Flavor and started pushing him exclusively there
Why
You do realize TikTok was still a wagon right?

[Gamma Emerald]

You wanna tell me what false positive I had on Flavor while you’re taking the game seriously

[Gamma Emerald]

What???
That answers nothing

[Gamma Emerald]

Lol at that tiktok wall
And like, you make a bit of a show of asking why I vote you and respond to none of the actual reasoning, looks like you just want to doubtcast my vote

kinda hard to respond to reasoning when I don't know what that reasoning is.

Bullll
You asked me multiple times and yet missed all indications of my actual reasoning, which is that your walls feel like they’re filled with pointless fluff. The reason why “walls = scummy” is because of the caveat that I tend to post stuff like that, but I catch up differently and it helps me catch up, but with your style of catching up (walls) it’s just garbage.
Now can we please lynch this, he’s not honestly engaging me here

[Gamma Emerald]

You are posting things that feel useless and reactionary
It’s scummy
I sometimes do it myself, but it’s when catching up and because of my catch up method it helps me do it
By doing walk posts there’s no way it’s doing the thing it does for me
Therefore it’s just garbage reactionary posting

And like I do also believe the walls feel artificial beyond this, but it’s a thing I tend to think as scum so I don’t think that feeling is worth much. On top of that, you responded to every vote on you, and all of the reactions were mediocre at best

[Gamma Emerald]

You think Dunn is bussing?

[Gamma Emerald]

Also that’s pretty arrogant to say that type of thing when including you your townbloc is 4 people

[Gamma Emerald]

Possibly
Depends on the moves you make

[Gamma Emerald]

tic tac is probably town

Why

[Gamma Emerald]

tic tac is probably town

Why

Because they dont feel like scum

Una is probably town too

VOTE: garmr

Dont forget that fl is scum if i get murderized in the night ^

I very much disagree on TikTok
He’s reactive, fluffy, and is not taking pressure well

[Gamma Emerald]

How does your given reasoning equal Flavor being scum/a good vote? You’re aware he’s claimed a Cop-like role, right?
I think I’m TRing your play rn though, Maria

[Gamma Emerald]

Your effort is low but your heart seems to be in the right place

And I can see the validity of that reasoning, but seeing as Flavor is a townread of mine + TikTok’s counterwagon I’m very against that lynch happening.

[Gamma Emerald]

I am unsure about tictac. Was mostly skimming his posts because these quote walls are difficult to read, looking now more at them I am surprisingly mindmelding with him on some subjects (mostly regarding FL), these seem to be the most substantial statements of him.

I can see the scumreads for the wagon hopping and especially the way he dealt with his Saudade scumread though.

I am not sure though if I get the reactionary argument. I would have assumed it is for only responding in these quote walls with comments, however looking at some of his games that seems to be the norm, just that he seems to be more abrupt with his comments here. Do you think he is lacking any initiative here, Gamma? Your reasoning in #256 kind of suggests (to me at least) that it is rather for his style of posting just looking unreadable/fluffy?

I haven’t seen much initiative or expansive content in his wall, no. And I wouldn’t call his style unreadable, but I’d say it’s a stylistic argument, yeah.

[Gamma Emerald]

@Garmr:
What is it that is bothering you about Gamma? By going through your ISO it feels it's mostly for his reasoning for voting you and maybe his reasoning for voting tictac(?) and by certain interactions. Why do these come from scum and not "bad town"? Not really getting the scum vibes there.

I been contemplating it but it feels weird gamma would scum read me for that after all we been through together he knows my personality is the type to do that as both alignment and he never had a point to scum read me after that.

I was kinda eager to see this response because it looked like your SR on me had cooled a while back so I wanted to see whether you were holding onto that read
I am starting to warm up to being town rn

Also, I have an associative read that is based on TikTok’s flip that I want to state but not state whom it’s on or what it is

[Gamma Emerald]

Wot

[Gamma Emerald]

He only said it’s for the day phase
I feel like he does that a lot actually, maybe it’s a meta lead I can try
Pretty much the way you meta Flavor is you catch him once with a tell and he instantly fixes it
He’s like Mr. Freeze in Batman: Arkham City

[Gamma Emerald]

Wasn’t really at you, more at what you said

[Gamma Emerald]

How does your given reasoning equal Flavor being scum/a good vote? You’re aware he’s claimed a Cop-like role, right?
I think I’m TRing your play rn though, Maria

Pt cop isnt cop, dont conflate them

It’s not entirely different though
If I said he was a standard cop, them your response would be valid, and tbh if I were conflating them I’d expect Flavor to lynch me on the spot because I’ve cut through that bullshit before

[Gamma Emerald]

Unfortunately you're not very convincing with this

Incidentally i wasnt trying to be

Well then what the hell was your reason for saying that?

[Gamma Emerald]

Pt cop is like a gunsmith, they only get situational guilties.

It's not inherently worth giving him a pass

It’s a PR though, and I don’t think he’s faking the fact he is a PR at least. Very good chance he’s faking what he is exactly, but he definitely has PR vibes, and the fact he’s faking what he is isn’t scummy, especially in this situation imo. So like, would you argue for lynching a PR claim here?
(I do hate having to throw in a bazillion caveats because it’s Flavor though)

[Gamma Emerald]

Unfortunately you're not very convincing with this

Incidentally i wasnt trying to be

Well then what the hell was your reason for saying that?

Sharing my thoughts with the universe

Why aren’t you interested in convincing people? Are you only interested in being right?

[Gamma Emerald]

Pt cop is like a gunsmith, they only get situational guilties.

It's not inherently worth giving him a pass

It’s a PR though, and I don’t think he’s faking the fact he is a PR at least. Very good chance he’s faking what he is exactly, but he definitely has PR vibes, and the fact he’s faking what he is isn’t scummy, especially in this situation imo. So like, would you argue for lynching a PR claim here?
(I do hate having to throw in a bazillion caveats because it’s Flavor though)

I agree he's probably a pr, maybe even the one he's claimed

Not even remotely convinced he's a town one

Doesn’t change my final question. Would you argue for lynching a PR claim?

I can see that logic regarding not pushing your reads though.

[Gamma Emerald]

Flavor

, why are Una and Maria scum? Idk about Una but I have Maria as town rn

[Gamma Emerald]

I’d do Garmr if it was clearly more viable than TikTok but not rn

[Gamma Emerald]

Can I have a wagon on Dunn my boys

I’ll pass

[Gamma Emerald]

I’d do Garmr if it was clearly more viable than TikTok but not rn

Weren't you just warming up to him being town?

That doesn’t mean I can’t still find him suspect
Plus I was explicitly asked
Though tbh I think Skitter could have some equity herself at this time

[Gamma Emerald]

Tbh I think MariaR might be one of my weaker townreads but I still don’t want to see any townread of mine lynched rn

[Gamma Emerald]

You are posting things that feel useless and reactionary
It’s scummy
I sometimes do it myself, but it’s when catching up and because of my catch up method it helps me do it
By doing walk posts there’s no way it’s doing the thing it does for me

yea, I'm not you. I dunno what ya get from yer method

Therefore it’s just garbage reactionary posting

eh

And like I do also believe the walls feel artificial beyond this, but it’s a

thing I tend to think as scum

so I don’t think that feeling is worth much. On top of that, you responded to every vote on you, and all of the reactions were mediocre at best

I'd think that scum-ya would know the walls to be genuine?

See you’re right on with that last line: my criticism of the walls is one that I know is ineffective as a scum hunting tool.
And like you don’t need to be exactly like me, but I see no reason for your walls to be as fillery as they were

[Gamma Emerald]

How does your given reasoning equal Flavor being scum/a good vote? You’re aware he’s claimed a Cop-like role, right?

he claimed a role that can claim a guilty + not get lynched when that guilty flips green.

How does Flavor not get lynched on a green flip by his guilty? He claimed a role that has like no room for error guilty-wise.

[Gamma Emerald]

I’d do Garmr if it was clearly more viable than TikTok but not rn

so u just pushing a leaf counterwagon.
ok.

Yeah actually, didn’t want to use those exact words myself but it seems like Flavor’s wagon rose in response to the wagon on you. As such I am very much opposed to it.

[Gamma Emerald]

I honestly think being open to voting Garmr was a mistake, I feel like in the present moment Skitter has greater scum equity than him, so to take that type of olive branch was a bad call on my part.

[Gamma Emerald]

If we were scum together there would be no wagon on him

[Gamma Emerald]

I have been arguing that Flsvot isn’t the role he claimed, but for that moment I had to step away from that because TikTok was very likely taking his claim at face value. Kinda feels intellectually dishonest to take my post the way you did.

[Gamma Emerald]

I can read gamestates better than all of y'all, sorry to tell you but it's over

you tried, did great, but skit/mason ain't having it and I'm done waiting

dullards, er, I mean town,, reread the game and focus on leaf, he's looking for his pals

gamma is their encrypter

figure out the rest on your own, gg

replace me out if you intend to keep playing
not that kind to replace out on my own

sorry leaf, I too am shackled by my wincon
might screw around a bit, but shackled nonetheless

oh, and in case I'm wrong, I'm new, so all is forgiven?

~kbye~

p-edit
happy holidays y'all,, little early, but might not be around later

HURT: non lmh
I was gonna let the troll pass me by but he’s pissed me off

[Gamma Emerald]

I honestly think being open to voting Garmr was a mistake, I feel like in the present moment Skitter has greater scum equity than him, so to take that type of olive branch was a bad call on my part.

Do tell

Since I don’t trust you that much I shouldn’t have been open to that
It wasn’t problematic at the time but later it became a situation of cognitive dissonance

[Gamma Emerald]

Btw nice to see someone else in that slot now
I used the hurt tag to see if he’d have an interesting reaction, doesn’t look like he did but response time could be important

[Gamma Emerald]

No i mean more why you think i have scum equity

You haven’t really felt solvy, would maybe expect more of that
Plus you feel somewhat linked to TikTok

Also, for the last time we’re not lynching Dunnstral today

[Gamma Emerald]

No i mean more why you think i have scum equity

You haven’t really felt solvy, would maybe expect more of that
Plus you feel somewhat linked to TikTok

Also, for the last time we’re not lynching Dunnstral today

Y not dunn?

Haven’t seen practically any reason why, and Saudade has just been dully rambling along about wanting it

[Gamma Emerald]

Incidentally i think the claim might be true, i just dont think he's town

thought it would make more sense as the reverse? don’t think he’d be claiming his real role as maf.. probably?
the role he claimed would be completely useless for mafia wouldn’t it?

and yay a replacement who actually wants to participate lol
still no idea what Non was saying about the circle thing but i guess i’m a circle

It could serve Mafia well but to claim it like he did kills its utility
Unless he’s a Traitor.

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Dunnstral

Strictly survival and sheeping the town reads.

Pls don’t

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Flavor Leaf

Okay nah I’m find with Dunnstral dying
Actually would my vote be a hammer because if not I would actually like to vote there, this is a super scummy pop-in

[Gamma Emerald]

I know, I think they're worth lynching him over as it shows he's lying

this is scummy btw ^

Yeah agreed (and this time I’m not going to insta regret saying this). I’m sure he has enough experience with Flavor to understand how him lying isn’t a scumtell

[Gamma Emerald]

Btw @january what’s your take on Robb’s replace out?

answered this already

i think skitt/robb's slot is probably town, mostly because of rob's replace-out and less because of skitter

I don't like this.

This is Robb we're talking about. Robb of either alignment could get mad and replace out.

Do you agree or disagree with that, and if not I want to know exactly

why

.

I actually think it’s towny she thought that, it seemed consistent following a previous game

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Dunn
FYI my reasoning for refusing this lynch was it felt like an attempt to create another counterwagon to tictac
But Dunn’s naked vote under pressure voids that entire logic

[Gamma Emerald]

As I said, TROLL.

[Gamma Emerald]

You’re aware he’s claimed a Cop-like role, right?

Do you think he's Loud or Announcing?

I don’t know. I don’t believe he is what he claimed but I don’t exactly care to speculate what he actually is.

[Gamma Emerald]

Not exactly? They’re very close in function. Loud essentially gives your target a Watcher power that only sees you, Announcing does the same but Voyeur instead

[Gamma Emerald]

OR he used the same logic I did??? You’re reaching, stop it.

[Gamma Emerald]

Wake please stop, you really don’t seem to get it
Yes he claimed Loud earlier, but the earlier claim WASN’T HIS FULL CLAIM. In fact I recall his wording being something like “Loud elements”, which very much includes Announcing.

[Gamma Emerald]

Tell me why/how he forgets that though? And no, Simple and Complex don’t make sense in that context, idk wtf you’re on about here. Makes me kinda want to vote you because your logic feels like shit rn

[Gamma Emerald]

OR HE HAD A REASON TO DO THAT AS TOWN? Like you seem to be exclusive viewing that as scumplay, this ducking Flavor Leaf we’re talking about. You need a unique set of rules just for him.

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah, Flavor fakeclaims a lot as both alignments. He has self-admitted this in this game I believe. So tell me how the hell you miss that?

[Gamma Emerald]

And like to back to your example, if he’d flipped between Simple and Complex (or Loyal and Disloyal for that matter), yeah that might be questionable, Loud and Announcing not so much. Loud and Announcing do not have a yin-yang functionality like those other pairs do where it encompasses a full dichotomy. So it’s nowhere near as inconsistent as you claim it to be

[Gamma Emerald]

Because the are similar in the way Watcher/Voyeur are similar

[Gamma Emerald]

they're not the same but they're not as extreme as claiming simple then complex

why does this matter you guys are arguing about something completely non-relevant

Because Wake thinks it’s relevant. I don’t.

[Gamma Emerald]

Maybe later, I need to sleep soon