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[ejjinami]

I’m replacing someone.... I didn’t even read their name
But HI! xD

[ejjinami]

I claim town. As I claimed town, I am town
Anyone who doesn’t believe it or wants to counterclaim should feel free to do so

and die painfully before sunrise

[ejjinami]

For those of you who don't know me, Hello I'm BEF, you will probably scum read me early on and want to lynch me. Please don't.

Scum probably won't NK me (if they know how I am) and will leave me for a mislynch or lylo stuff.

Please just let me do my thing.

Please

Hey, was that a pre-written post or not?

[ejjinami]

And unlike BEF here, I'm a prime candidate for a nightkill early on, if the scum know what to do. :giggle:

Townie attitude.

The flex would feel really stupid if it came from scum (especially if Una was scum and Bright was town)

[ejjinami]

god I wish flavor never brought up that game. I just read that game. No wonder I hate him so much. He continually plays against his win condition in every game i have ever played with him.

Who are you talking about?

[ejjinami]

Gut read: flavor and bob aren’t in a team together.
Profii’s posts seem also kinda chill...

[ejjinami]

Mmmmmmm VOTE: bob

[ejjinami]

inb4 sing saw he was mafia and rolled out :lol:

Dammit, how did you know??? T-T this wasn’t supposed to be revealed so quickly
nOt lIkE tHaT

[ejjinami]

I smart

God dammit, CHEATER. You used codes!
That doesn’t count as a win
The next time you play Minecraft, I’ll steal your dog and bed so that you’ll have to sleep on the floor while crying tears of misery in a corner alone

[ejjinami]

Grumble grumble grumble

[ejjinami]

I honestly don’t know how you’ve seen anything AI from anyone.

That’s not the first time I hear that
But tbh it;s not like getting reads this early is bad

[ejjinami]

Or wait, lemme phrase that differently. It shouldn’t make a difference if it’s early or late game, if posts that seem AI appear, they appear, if they don’t, they don’t.
I think that was a decent game start

[ejjinami]

Foist

Are you scum? Answer honestly or I’ll check you at night

[ejjinami]

Who are your scummates?

[ejjinami]

[ejjinami]

You don’t want to talk about scummates then? ): what a shame

[ejjinami]

You don’t want to talk about scummates then? ): what a shame

Oh, sorry, I have this thing...

... you may never have heard of it...

It's called a

life

?

Kinda defensive tone

Do you have any scum or town reads?

[ejjinami]

Maybe geraintm could confirm that for us.

Why geraintm?

[ejjinami]

EBWOP

I don't know which pings me more. Ejji's question or Espresso's answer.

If you think both are scummy, it’s a good custom to vote

[ejjinami]

Sigh, I don’t get why so many people on this site need a kick in the butt before they start doing stuff
Don’t wait for someone else to start the game instead of you, early posts are AI as well

[ejjinami]

For those of you who don't know me, Hello I'm BEF, you will probably scum read me early on and want to lynch me. Please don't.

Scum probably won't NK me (if they know how I am) and will leave me for a mislynch or lylo stuff.

Please just let me do my thing.

Please

Hey, was that a pre-written post or not?

@bright, answer this post, please

[ejjinami]

god I wish flavor never brought up that game. I just read that game. No wonder I hate him so much. He continually plays against his win condition in every game i have ever played with him.

That said. I’m always down for a boon lynch so if a wagon formed I’d lynch him. I’d also lynch just about anyone day 1

And now that I think of it, those interactions most likely don’t come from SvS.
Jake seemed to be dissatisfied about boom’s town-play, which shouldn’t happen in the first place if he was scum with Boon.
It makes way more sense when coming from someone who was worried that he’ll have to deal with stuff like that here as well. (Which is

sort of

a townie mentality and most definitely doesn’t come form SvS.)

And the last post (About lynching boon) is likely sincere. It kinda looks as if jake felt a need to focus on lynching boon but was aware that he had no reason to do that...
Idk how to explain it but considering the previous posts I think it might make them really unlikely to be scummates.

[ejjinami]

Sigh, I don’t get why so many people on this site need a kick in the butt before they start doing stuff
Don’t wait for someone else to start the game instead of you, early posts are AI as well

We need a wagon to form to really get the game going.

A wagon won’t start without people saying stuff related to the game first

[ejjinami]

Idk who to vote tbh.
I don’t wanna lynch Jake, Bright, Una and poooossibly egix but I don;t think I can say anything about the rest rn

What’s the VC?

[ejjinami]

Sigh
VOTE: espresso
Lazy but good starter wagon

[ejjinami]

Idk who to vote tbh.
I don’t wanna lynch Jake, Bright, Una and poooossibly egix but I don;t think I can say anything about the rest rn

What’s the VC?

Right, add profii to the list, they seem fine as well

[ejjinami]

For those of you who don't know me, Hello I'm BEF, you will probably scum read me early on and want to lynch me. Please don't.

Scum probably won't NK me (if they know how I am) and will leave me for a mislynch or lylo stuff.

Please just let me do my thing.

Please

Hey, was that a pre-written post or not?

@bright, answer this post, please

I guess you need the kick in the butt now... I already answered it...

Can I!? :D
THANKS!!!

And yeah, sorry. I must have missed it, I see it now

[ejjinami]

Oh wait... you were talking about me not yourself ):
No fun

[ejjinami]

Idk who to vote tbh.
I don’t wanna lynch Jake, Bright, Una and poooossibly egix but I don;t think I can say anything about the rest rn

What’s the VC?

I think germanium has 3 votes or did at one point.

Do you wanna lynch him?

[ejjinami]

So geraintm who do you think is scum?

Got any town pings yet?

Flippy you got any feelings as to might be scum or town?

Who would you vote for now even if it was a rvs vote?

why did you ask those 2 in particular?

Now that I think of it, I don’t remember anything they posted...
that would probably be true for like half of the player list as well tho

[ejjinami]

I’ll lynch anyone

I’m tempted to vote you just to test that lol
Risky statement

[ejjinami]

Find some town

Who have you found?

I love that interaction

[ejjinami]

Bob’s posts... well make sense but also feel kinda lamist at the same time

Why do you think day one is so useless.

Ok you say you dont have any scum reads yet but do you have any town reads.

Is there anything you want to ask in order to question another players?

mostly thinking about that one

[ejjinami]

Nope, made not attempt, as I have said I have limited access at the weekends.
I also hate trying to assign anyone to town or scum based on what they say on day 1. Scum arent stupid and if they have any ability can look like town. If it was easy to find scum day 1 from just talking, this game wouldn't be worth playing.
Not until a bunch of actual votes ge thrown around can we get anywhere.
Sue me if you think me thinking day one is a crap shoot is bad

Ok, talk to me about my reads then. Why do you think they’re incorrect

Link to my read on Jake vs boon

BEF:

For those of you who don't know me, Hello I'm BEF, you will probably scum read me early on and want to lynch me. Please don't.

Scum probably won't NK me (if they know how I am) and will leave me for a mislynch or lylo stuff.

Please just let me do my thing.

Please

I town read him mostly for that post and it being way more shameless if coming from scum. Just read that post again and imagine yourself begging other players to let you live as either alignment.
If he’s town, it’s still mildly ok cuz BEF should be aware that “the other players won’t regret letting him live”.
But if he’s scum, that’s just kinda pathetic and it would be REALLY embarrassing to write.

That;s also why I asked if the post was written before getting his alignment. Even if he has a history of being policy-lynched, as long as the post was written after he got his role, I think it should be AI.
Change my mind

[ejjinami]

Bob’s posts... well make sense but also feel kinda lamist at the same time

Why do you think day one is so useless.

Ok you say you dont have any scum reads yet but do you have any town reads.

Is there anything you want to ask in order to question another players?

mostly thinking about that one

I thought he was really lamist the first time I played with him

Yeah, it doesn’t necessarily have to be scum indicative

[ejjinami]

This is why I like to create drama usually. Gives people to talk about. This game is definitely stale

Go for it!

[ejjinami]

Received a prod, sorry about that people! :?
I'll catch up sometime tomorrow, and will probably jump on a wagon I deem worthy. :]

People want to know what I dont like. Lurkers who come in and joins wagons to keep pressure off themselves.

It’s nice to see that you have completely ignored my question.

[ejjinami]

Tho I do agree that Una’s inactivity might be scum-indicative. They talked rather highly about themselves at the beginning of the game and said that they’re usually a really good NK target as town so them just prodging here feels weird.

[ejjinami]

But unah isn’t under any pressure. So why take that jab? You’re under some and trying to deflect off yourself

Oh, so they are under some pressure? No wonder then. :giggle:

Shade noted.

[ejjinami]

Tho I do agree that Una’s inactivity might be scum-indicative. They talked rather highly about themselves at the beginning of the game and said that they’re usually a really good NK target as town so them just prodging here feels weird.

Just in case you are being serious here - I sort of wasn't at the start. :lol:
I do not have big ideas about myself.
I was just trying to taunt the scum. Maybe they'd waste a bullet on me if they thought I was something special. :]

...I was serious
But I guess that makes sense.

[ejjinami]

i'm looking, if i see anything obvious then i'll lock onto it, but im not going to beat myself up over not finding anything yet.

and in my post 215 when i said too many people trying to make themselves appear cleverer than they are.....people pointing out their successful scum spots in past games isn't really going against my general thoughts on Day 1, sorry. though you could be scum hunter extradinarie and if so then i apologise...

You seem like the kind of player who would want to play it safe to the point of completely closing themselves off to any sort of information till they get a mechanical confirmation...
Sigh

I don’t really wanna argue about this.

[ejjinami]

So geraintm what your saying is you dont even want to scum hunt?

If there is nothing about day one that you can use to help find scum. Then what your infact sayign is there is nothing about any day that can used to find scum. SO are you saying your not interested in any day talk unless it resolves around a night action.

And if you say oh we have a lynch to go off. You forgeting that with no discussion over votes day one nothing can be learnt from any lynch on day one. And thus day two ect

Let’s maybe not argue about this.
Honestly, I don’t think that discussion makes sense. Everyone is talking about the same thing and explaining it in the exact same manner and if that’s not enough, I’d say it’s not worth spending time on it.

Do you think it makes gera scum? Let’s talk about that.

[ejjinami]

Sorry for being inactive, a new term is starting and I kinda screwed up when signing up for classes so I had a lot of stuff to do xd
I'm here now, I can't catch up just yet but I'll do it within the next few hours.

[ejjinami]

You can always unvote if you aren't SRing you RVS vote.
It might help us out in the coming days when VCA starys becoming useable.

Is this some kind of weird buddying tactic where you are trying to put the idea in his head that he shouldn't vote for me? :eek:

Ngl and maybe its the tin foil but leaving the vote there when it's past rvs and not a preferred lynch feels like its a strategic move somehow.

Ngl

and

....

so you are not lying about trying to buddy me?!

Pfffft, that’s pretty observant

geraintm although you dont list profii as one of teh two players that you want to vote. Those being two lurker players

But what do you think of his vote on you. That pushed your rvs wagon over 4 votes.

Meh. I've got no hard feelings about it. It is like, wrong, but most votes placed are wrong.

I think next game i'll be less.... blunt in my views to annoy less people, that's all i've taken from the game so far.

This pings town for really, really stupid reasons.

Fun play. I wonder if it’s scum indicative. Looks like a last ditch attempt to try and fool le townies into going “oh FL hasn’t played what oh my should we do?! He’s prob scum!!!!”

And ya took the bait, gerry poo, ya took the damn bait

You know, it’s pretty funny that you’re posting all of that after getting only 1 vote.
You say you were inactive from the very start in order to make people form a wagon on you and read them.
1 person scum-read you, you immediately gave up on the reaction test and defended yourself WITHOUT the intention of scum or town reading him.

Hahaha, tell me lies, tell me sweet lil lies~

careful what you wish for. Once boon starts playing for real the page count will triple. I'm down for a flash wagon but nobody ever has the guts to do it.

are you down for a flash wagon because FL has done something scummy or are you down for a flash wagon because you just dont like how FL plays?

Spontaneous and kinda provoking reaction noted.

Eh, it’s probably way too early to say this and I still haven’t read most of the new posts that appeared but I really like the way profii is playing. He seems to be chilling and just poking people here and there when an opportunity arrises without really making a push on anyone or trying to direct the lynch in any way.
It might come from scum if he’s skilled and focusing on faking his town meta but I‘m not sure how much I want to entertain that idea now.

[ejjinami]

what has FL done that you find scummy?

And fun fact, I find it really unlikely that anyone would defend scum!flavor in that way after his reaction test.
If this comes from scum!profii, it should more likely be TMI or gaslighting (which would both mean that flavor is town).
buddying a teammate in a way that brings even more attention to them, just after they wrote a scummy post really doesn’t make sense to me.

ohhh I just rechecked the VC and was reminded Geraint is voting FL too.

UNVOTE:

feels like a ploy...

lol

Why aren’t you voting gera then?

I don't know if I could put a number on it. His(leaf’s) play so far is scummy and he's useless so he is definitely a good day 1 lynch. He's going to be harder to lynch as the days go on and he's skillful enough as scum to fool everyone.

Another post that’s unlikely to come from SvS lol

Sigh

[ejjinami]

BEF is town. If I ever change my mind or start hesitating, honestly fuck me. Him entertaining the idea of Flavor&Jake being a team and joking about it so much is just weird at this point.
He most likely joked about it precisely because he was aware that the idea is unlikely to be true.
It feels as if he’s focused NOT on pushing a ML but on just.... like.... idk. Himself
And progressing the game and sharing his thoughts while “preparing himself for failure”.

[ejjinami]

Ejin

Stop pocket.

Hi

[ejjinami]

Pissed if someone hammered me without any warning. This has been the laziest day one lynch I've seen in a long time.
Need to look who joined for crappy reasons come tkmorrow

PFFFFFFT

, LOL
Oh no, I have been hammered! I’m aware that I’m dead but we’ll still be able to talk tomorrow
Hahahaha, good job god dammit xD
You legit made me chuckle

[ejjinami]

I feel like your analysis of me is slightly misguided

Could you just elaborate?

[ejjinami]

@bob can you tell me your thoughts about bussing? :/
This might be kinda useless but eh, why not I guess

[ejjinami]

Quick note:
Mavsfan seems to be solving in a kinda passive and active way at the same time. His analysis posts seem detailed and he surely put some effort into them but it doesn’t feel as if he’s trying to control the lynch. He seems fine with just flying under the radar and waiting for others to maybe agree or disagree with his pushes. This is likely not AI in any way, considering for how long he has been playing, I really wouldn't be surprised to see that from either alignment.
It’s probably still worth noting tho

VOTE: Aloratom

I see your still voting geraintm with your rvs vote. You have ben posting all the while its steadily reached l-1.

yet no real attempt to sort him or move the lynch off else where.

Only post whre you talk about an alignment is when you say that one of mav posts look towny. At no point who you think might be scum.

Why you think geraintn is scum

Actually, I'm going to take a look at espressojet. He's had that vote on himself for a long time now, and it's weird.

VOTE: espressojet

...:/
VOTE: aloratom

That’s probably my first real scum-read...
The post feels like the very definition of scum trying to fly under the radar. If the scum-read on espresso was genuine, I find it kinda weird that he’d only remember it now, while quoting bob’s post. It looks like he just realized that he was scum-read, posted some random stuff without thinking, just to not get lynched immediately, and started lurking again.

That should probably correct regardless of his alignment...

Can someone talk to me about how he plays as town?

[ejjinami]

If it got to L-1, I was gonna Outta Nowhere Hammer

awesome. i am surrounded by idiots....

Am I too naive by thinking that gera would have been less likely to comment like that on a post talking about his own lynch, if he was scum?

The reason being - i wonder if he is white knighting (Is that the right term? Helping kill the wagon on his scum mate Geraintm is what I mean...)

White knighting applies only to townies.


Welp, throw my previous read on profii out of the window, I don’t think I can read him at all. ):
It should be pretty clear by now that being observant is just his normal way of playing, it’s probably not AI in any way.
And honestly I have mixed feelings about his vote on bob... I don’t really mind the vote cuz I don;t think I can read him either but the reasons are just kinda not convincing.
I think I am town-reading gera slightly after all so being so set on at least 1 scum among [gera/bob] doesn’t make me happy either.
Idk, it might be just a difference in preferences, but I just don’t like that read.

I think bob has successfully killed the momentum on geraintm so let's move on.

For the same reasons I don’t really think profii should be in a team with either of them though
Damn, this would be such a weird progression if either profii&gera or profii&bob were SvS...

I might be overusing the interaction reads a bit rn but hush... I probably wouldn’t be able to find them again later on without noting

[ejjinami]

we have 13 players, which typically suggests 3 scum

There are guaranteed to be 10 town and 3 scum in this game.

When it comes to my thoughts about Bob3141 and wanting a wagon but not a lynch: I just really really wanted more outta him than “how do (insert player’s name here) feel about (insert action here)” post and for the most part, I got that in page 15. That page has several posts that would go into the “good” category of the official “mavsfans41 classification of post.” All I had from bob3141 up till that point were posts that I didn’t know how to interpret. Whether it’s town trying to move the game along or the weakest way to play scum and look town trying to look as though you’re pushing the game along. I read scum as someone who offered very very little and continued on and pushed a little on the geraintm wagon.

I thought profii displayed scum behavior and voted him earlier, but now I feel pretty certain he’s town. He appears to be actively scum hunting and props to him!

Do you have any other reads?

[ejjinami]

which was why i was shocked when i got hammered.

LOL

[ejjinami]

which was why i was shocked when i got hammered.

LOL

Don’t... just please.... don’t.

[ejjinami]

I feel bad for genuinely considering it as a joke lol

[ejjinami]

FUCK

Hello, nice to see you lurking
I’d prefer if you didn’t. Nudity isn’t allowed on this forum
Maybe you should consider doing something more publicly acceptable?

[ejjinami]

Wanna chat? Shitposting is fine as well, as long as it’s not hunting for pagetops
Who do you think is the most irritating player in this game?

[ejjinami]

@mavsfan what do you think of aloratom?

[ejjinami]

I was chatting earlier before you buried it so obviously you

here

/pat pat

Good boy
Next time I’ll steal the page top from you so that you can write an angry post again

[ejjinami]

:P

[ejjinami]

...I’ve been trying to solidify my thoughts for at least an hour now but even though most players do ping me in some way I just can’t put it into words.
I’m still working on it

Honestly, bob doesn;t ping me as scum. It’s hard to explain why but he just doesn’t.

Mavs... probably shouldn’t be lynched today, even if only because of how much he switches wagons. From his pov, if he is scum, there has to be at least 1 big wagon on a townie, so jumping all around with his vote and seriously trying to start new wagons feels like he’s sincerely trying to solve.

But that’s probably not what you meant. Idk bef or profli

Elaborate on profii