Mini Normal 2117: Mozart Mafia (Finale)

[NorwegianboyEE]

(Guys it say's in the thread title: "pre-game")
(Are we allowed to talk?)
(...Hello?)

[NorwegianboyEE]

VOTE: Rabid Schnauzer
Voting the dog with rabies, because it genuinely terrifies me.

[NorwegianboyEE]

ugh

Chin up!

[NorwegianboyEE]

Someone just needs to do something ya

Garmr is town, TSE/saudade has 1-2 scum

Are you saying that "just do to something" or are those actual reads?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Are you saying that "just do to something" or are those actual reads?

Are you asking that just to do something, or are you really curious?

What if i told you... both?

[NorwegianboyEE]

What is FoS and why is the term used?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Nor is Town
Kage is Town
Una is Town

I think the team is TheWorst and Saudade.

Not sure what lead you to most of those conclusions tho.
And i don't really wanna vote The Worst today cus i haven't played with him in a while and it would be a shame to vote him out so early. I mean even if he becomes confirmed scum i'd probably feel bad about it.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Actually, going purely by likability i think my vote is best placed here today.
Why did you claim mason btw?
VOTE: Saudade

[NorwegianboyEE]

Who wanna fire up the grill. I want me some sausage fried today.

[NorwegianboyEE]

VOTE: Dann

Oh god. Non Imh is in this game.
(Be careful not to put a wagon into L-1 as this guy loves to lolhammer)

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’m liking Dannflor for post 150. As for the wagon on him, i don’t think it’s likely that naked voting automatically equals= scum. So disagree with his wagon.
And yes, i understand and sympathize with his vote on sausage, sausage is really annoying and it’s grating to read his posts. I don’t like him on a personal level.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Spoiler:

can you rq

Ok.
*Cough*

I'M SO DONE WITH THIS GAME I HATE YOU ALL I'M NOT PLAYING THIS ANYMORE OMFG!!!1!
RAGEQUIT!!!

can you rq throw me which parts of #150 come from town > scum?

just as an aside - i'm wary that i'm biasing because of his treatment of me
the earlier wagonhop/pockety comments rubbed me a strange way and like
i'm like 99% sure he's annoyed/disappointed/whatever; his language around scumreading me is v much "i don't understand you therefore you must die"; town!dann too good to think me being a cute mess is a scum indicator

I won't explicitly claim that scum!him can't make the post he did, but since he's saying out loud some of what i've been thinking i like the post.
I'm not too familiar with his meta so i won't comment about your side stuff.

[NorwegianboyEE]

i didn't ask whether it was within dann's scumrange though - i just want to know what part of that post made you go "ah yes this is a towny post from a member of the town"

Well, to be perfectly honest. I mostly ignored "the" the worst/Dannflor feud and mainly looked at his explanation for voting Saudade as a town explanation. It was the fourth vote in the wagon, but he didn't over-justify it. Just claimed it was because he was annoyed by him. And that seems like something town would do.

[NorwegianboyEE]

why are we voting dannflor (dance floor)

Why are you just asking questions like: "why are we X" rather than actually pointing out why people should or shouldn't do what they do?

[NorwegianboyEE]

man that pt should have been mine

¿que¿

[NorwegianboyEE]

TSE can you remind me why you're so sure of a The Worst/Frankfurter team?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Nullreads are scumreads?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Nullreads are scumreads?

what?

It was a weird question so i’m trying to understand why it was asked.

[NorwegianboyEE]

so do people on saudade are just doing it for fun

No. In fact with the latest vote count, I have a feeling scumteam is Saudade/TW. I'm still weary of TSE. I think TW is either trying to hide the team with his vote or voting for the person voting his m8.

Do you think The Worst should be lynched first since you're on him right now and not Saudade?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Saudade

So sorry, i meant:
*Wiener

[NorwegianboyEE]

Or did he explain it.
Let me read his ISO.
I hardly read TBH and shit just comes out of my mouth.

Lmao.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Tbh i don't understand why TSE is strongly scumreading you either.
But problem is, i don't really know if it's scummy or not coming from him. Since this is pretty much how he is regardless of alignment i think.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Im mason

Kill it with fire.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Dannfloor
Dannflour
Danflor
Dannfor
Danor
Fordan
Floortile
Danfloor

[NorwegianboyEE]

@Dannflor
I’ve been mostly musing about the postings of Truesoulenergy and The Worst. They facinate me, in a: "watching a nature documentary program unfold" sort of way. I’m not sure if it’s TvS or TvT, but i want to find out.
I haven’t gotten fully into the game yet, but once i do i’ll make sure to keep you up to date on my reads Danny boy.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ohh. I like that allegory.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Also, please just call me Norwee. Writing my full name feels so... sterile.

[NorwegianboyEE]

What would help you get fully into the game?

Is it just a time based thing or would talking about something in particular help

I just haven’t had the time to fully involve myself in the conversations yet. I’m more of a hands on guy you see.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I suppose you could call me whatever you like when it comes down to it.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Anyway i will continue to say i’ve been liking Dann’s tone so far. But i’m going to be careful since i’ve had recent experience of betrayal against the most friendly and reasonable townie sounding dude turning out to be scum.
The Worst’s meta was brought up earlier as a "overly friendly and pockety" type of player. And tbh i’m not really seeing that behaviour so profoundly here, unless Invisibility has been pocketed, cus he gave a pretty strong TR to that person. Who i’m not really seeing why is "that" townie but eh...
TSE is... TSE. Idk how to read him tbh.

[NorwegianboyEE]

and you, to me ^^
how's trondheim this time of year?

Cold, dark, depressing.

[NorwegianboyEE]

the most friendly and reasonable townie sounding dude turning out to be scum.

could never be me

Not your scum meta?

[NorwegianboyEE]

sometimes I get into this mood where I wanna call everyone by their totally correct proper screen name with correct capitalization and everything

but then no one likes it when I do it that wonder why

You got it Norwee

Interesting, because I'd rather see kagesong (which is kage (japanese for shadow, and song) than some of the abbreviations I've seen here. I've had a good giggle with my fiance about some though. She actually calls me Kage because it's a spiritually given name. So it was super funny to her.

Why not Kageuta?
Anyway i think the unexplained scumread on you by sausage is suspicious in it’s timing.

[NorwegianboyEE]

VOTE: Sausage L-1

Woah woah what?
You go from saying we should talk about Kagesong being scum to joining the wagon and putting it on L-1?
Can you explan this progression?
UNVOTE:

[NorwegianboyEE]

VOTE: Saudade

[NorwegianboyEE]

What is this? A zoo? A duck and a dog and a dinosaur walked into a bar...

[NorwegianboyEE]

I just noticed the abundance of animal avatars in this playerlist. It's insane. Holy moly.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I was thinking about this in the shower this morning (sry if that's weird)

Nah i've got weird moments like that. Sometimes just before i fall asleep i can suddenly jerk awake and be like "Holy shit, is X actually scum?!" and then go post stuff on a game i'm on.
-
I definitely don't have anything against a sausage lynch. His response to the entire wagon on him has been very lackluster, like he doesn't even care. I find that this sort of nonchalant attitude comes more often from scum than town.

[NorwegianboyEE]

What do you want to discuss Worst?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Why do you think you/Saudade is a "valid read"?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Well i haven’t noticed any strong connection between you/Saudade. So i’m not sure why TSE and Kagewhat’shisface are so convinced of it. Like you said, it doesn’t make sense for you two to be so obvious about if it really were S+S.

[NorwegianboyEE]

By the way, am i the only one in this game that has acknowledged Non Imh’s existence so far?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Non Imh you have 2 posts. And they are naked votes. Do you have nothing else to say?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Cheerios gentlemen. This is for everyone’s information that i, Non Imh have preference for sealing the lynch on mr. Saudade with a hammering vote if the opportunity should present itself.

K lol.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Kage, Non Imh and Espresso all unvoted today.

Non Imh unvoted because he wanted to wait for L-1 and hammer i think.

[NorwegianboyEE]

What on earth is going on in here?
We really need to choose one from between BuDucky and Saudade for the lynch, because...?

What are you doing to push alternatives?

That's a good point tbh.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I have a red check on TW.
Is it legit or not? Vote him and find out!

Not feeling worst, but if nothing happens today I'll prolly vote espresso.

TW ISN’T playing like the Town game I played with him in.

What is the difference exactly?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Well yeah, what Kagesong said.
@TSE I want you to explain what difference you're perceiving as indicative of scum!Duck so i can understand where your read is coming from.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Oh lmao.

[NorwegianboyEE]

What if scum!Ducky is scumducking around?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Saudade (6): Rabid Schnauzer, the worst, NorwegianboyEE, kagesong, Invisibility, Non lmh

Tell me what you're thinking bae.

[NorwegianboyEE]

VC
saudade,,dog,duck,weeb,kage,neopet,me
the worst,,tse,garm,mason
tse,,dino,doctor
me,,una

no vote,,jet

The fact that i recognize which acronym you're using as a way to refer to me feels mildly insulting. I won't say you're wrong though.

[NorwegianboyEE]

What on earth is going on in here?
We really need to choose one from between BuDucky and Saudade for the lynch, because...?

What are you doing to push alternatives?

That's a good point tbh.

It might have been a good point at the time, because I hadn't found someone acting scum enough to deserve my full attention.

Norwegian deserves some solid scumpoints for this lazy poke.

If you're not one to push any alternative options it just reads as lazy shading imo.

[NorwegianboyEE]

So Non Imh is either intentionally or accidentally muddying up the votes.
Saudade is either at L-2 or L-1 depending on whether that latest vote counts.
So I urge you people, please join me and vote.
VOTE: Non Imh

What would scum gain from intentionally "muddying up" the votes?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Honestly i'm not seeing any reason to lean Non Imh one way over the other based on his performance today. He always acts like this.

[NorwegianboyEE]

VOTE: Hammer Saudade
My hammer is the real one. There is no Saudaddy in this game. My VC was bait. kbye

Spoiler:

[NorwegianboyEE]

So are you mason for real Sau?

[NorwegianboyEE]

low key i started half solving for viable Saudade partners so i'm going to soft reset
dann/vizzy still probably core

VOTE: non lmh <== i want competing non/espressojet wagons

Can you explain this vote?
It looks extraordinarily bad.

[NorwegianboyEE]

You're basically starting the day off with a vote on a hard null player i see no reason to scumread atm.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I think the team is you and TW.

Why though?

[NorwegianboyEE]

we're psychically linked by virtue of extraordinary cuteness

D'aww, get a room you two.

[NorwegianboyEE]

can we just get on with wagoning people who actually need to be wagoned?

And by that you mean you wanna sort Non Imh? Hah, i’d like to see you try. Every game i played with him he hammers any wagons on L-1 and barely produces content even if put under pressure. And that’s as town mind you. I’m still not sure what his scum game is, or even if he plays any differently.

[NorwegianboyEE]

It is reasonable to assume that Worst/Non Imh is not a team based on his vote though.

[NorwegianboyEE]

are you serious

Always...

...
Pfft. (Did he buy it?) >w<

[NorwegianboyEE]

Let’s see where this goes then Ducky.
Sausage scumread you but i don’t care much for his reads so.
Counterwagon go go go!
VOTE: Espressojet

[NorwegianboyEE]

Espresso is Town.
Didn’t think I’d need to say this but I have a Red Check on TheWorst.

Me and Worst have bad memories of a certain game involving town and scum fake claiming cop checks, just sayin.
So are you serious or nah?

[NorwegianboyEE]

is too scummy to be scum a valid reason to tr someone

I'd wager that depends on whether this setup can have jesters.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Invisibility what is your read on The Worst atm?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Tempted to vote TSE out of principle for that fake cop claim.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Idk if scum would do that tho.

[NorwegianboyEE]

TSE can you chill?
I feel like you’re completely ignoring 60% of the slots in the game in favour of this wack narrative as Floortile called it.
Is there any reason why you don’t focus on the fact that there could be scum between Una bomber plane, Angry rabies dog, Non Imh "the hammerer" and the express jet plane?

[NorwegianboyEE]

TSE can you chill?
I feel like you’re completely ignoring 60% of the slots in the game in favour of this wack narrative as Floortile called it.
Is there any reason why you don’t focus on the fact that there could be scum between Una bomber plane, Angry rabies dog, Non Imh "the hammerer" and the express jet plane?

Oh so you think i'm scum how come.

There are two angry dogs in this game, in case you couldn’t tell.

[NorwegianboyEE]

TSE is L-1 btw. I checked.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Garmr do you think there’s scum between the peeps clashing right now?

[NorwegianboyEE]

We need a VC. I'm close to voting worst based largely on saudade and somewhat on creature, but I'd like to know where he's at first.

There is a vote count.

[NorwegianboyEE]

VOTE: Rabid Schnauzer
Gut.

[NorwegianboyEE]

VOTE: Rabid Schnauzer
Gut.

You look like you're purposely staying off viable wagons.

Yes, because the wagons has been locked into a TSE vs Worst narrative and i'm not seeing any scum tells presented on either that doesn't mostly rely on meta or whatever TSE's: "gamestate" argument was.
If i were to make the choice i would vote TSE over Worst though.

[NorwegianboyEE]

TSE lets get a proper claim this time

Doesn’t a claim usually require someone to indicate a willingness to hammer? Repeating this statement reads as pointless fishing.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Why the rush?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Alright this is actually getting annoying now. And i don’t like TSE’s responses nor his unspecific "PR" claim.
VOTE: TSE
L-1.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Oh look, TSE’s been hammered. Anyway i just want to reiterate how stupid it is to claim you’re a "PR", but not which one. If you’re scum it reads as pure survivalism while being unhelpful to town and giving yourself time to come up with a claim, if you’re town then it gives scum the hint to NK you while denying town the information your PR’s night actions could have given us. Either claim fully or don’t claim at all.

Dammit, L-2

Wagon's lost momentum and I'm pretty sure I know why

Whatever

I’ll claim PR but not which one.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I didn’t think i would claim today, but since it’s MYLO it’s probably for the best?
Should i claim now or are we doing it in a fixed line.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Dann shot Espresso.
That’s summing it up Kagesong.

[NorwegianboyEE]

uh just for the interim
I think espressojet had a clear on me

Where

[NorwegianboyEE]

Dann shot Espresso.
That’s summing it up Kagesong.

So, Dann shot Espresso and got killed by mafia? Seriously no other possibility?

What other possibility is there?

[NorwegianboyEE]

It's not 100%, but it seems the most likely he inherited the vig shot from Saudade and used it on Espressojet as Worst said.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I thought Espressojet was a bit sus for the push on TSE yesterday when considering the flip, so it makes sense for me that Dannflor thought Espresso was mafia and took the shot.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Dannflor was a town universal backup. Do you know how that role works?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Why would scum want to control the narrative that way? Assuming they know there’s a SK they would be just as eager to find and lynch him wouldn’t you agree?
What chain of events is happening for you to so strongly believe the second kill was by a serial killer as opposed to a vigilante?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Sorry, late response. Something came up that took all day.
I’ll quickly claim.
I am a

Deputy

. So i’ll be inheriting Espresso’s role for this night’s actions. But i’m not sure if it’s useful at this point unless we hit a mafia tonight.
Popcorn to Non Imh.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Sorry, late response. Something came up that took all day.
I’ll quickly claim.
I am a

Deputy

. So i’ll be inheriting Espresso’s role for this night’s actions. But i’m not sure if it’s useful at this point unless we hit a mafia tonight.
Popcorn to Non Imh.

Did mod PM you saying you inherited his role?

Yes i got the message when Espresso died.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Pretty sure that's bullshit.

What's there to BS? I didn't even know deputy was a role that was used until i received it in this game. I don't know if there is an actual cop in this setup, so i'm thinking gunsmith is the only role i can possibly inherit. Unless someone claims cop later.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I won't quote exactly what it says in my pm because i think that might be against the rules. But in the description i'm told that if any role that has an investigative ability dies i will inherit that ability to use in the next night.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I don't understand what you're talking about.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I knew i was deputy from the start, i was saying i didn't know it was a role that was used in mafia games until i got it in this game now.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I described to you what my ability entails according to the information i was given.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'd like to see if there are any actual cops or not. Non Imh and Invisibility should claim.

[NorwegianboyEE]

He's saying then when he asked if Mod told you that you inherited the powers, you said yes, but then you're saying, well, I think I'll get that, because I don't know if there's a cop yet. Those are conflicting statements.

There is no conflicting statement because i never said i only "thought" i would inherit the powers from Espressojet. Please quote me in where you believe i said that.

[NorwegianboyEE]

So i’ll be inheriting Espresso’s role for this night’s actions.

This is what i said. Meaning i will be able to actually use my ability on this next occuring night. I was effectively an VT the nights before.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I don't know if there is an actual cop in this setup, so i'm thinking gunsmith is the only role i can possibly inherit. Unless someone claims cop later.

Here i am speculating that unless there is a cop not claiming or Non Imh is one, gunsmith is effectively the only role i could possibly inherit in the setup. As you can see, there is no contradiction in my statements here. And thus, the supposed contradiction you claim to exist is not there.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Im not sure if Rabid is just a rule pincher or scum jumping on the opportunity, but matter of fact is that RC informed me that my role would effectively take on the powers of Espressojet's gunsmith role in the following night. If that is not 'normal' then i suggest you take the matter to RC and ask why he designed the setup in such a way.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I never said: "well i think i did, if there is a cop". You are making that up.

[NorwegianboyEE]

VOTE: Kagesong
You should have been voted a long time ago. I’m starting to wonder if you’re intentionally misconstructing my posts to suit your agenda.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Lol none of you guys understand how the deputy role works and is using it as a bad reason to scumread me. Hilarious.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ops~

[NorwegianboyEE]

mod must have made a mistake hmmm.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Funny thing is. I’m not even lying. I really am a deputy. Lmao. You’ll see it’s true.

[NorwegianboyEE]

That list is outdated. Deputy is considered normal.

[NorwegianboyEE]

*Frame freeze*
"Yep that’s me. You’re probably wondering how i got myself into this situation. Well, to fully explan. We gotta tell the story ALL the way from the beginning!"
*Wacky 80’s outro music*

[NorwegianboyEE]

Haha yeah you sure got me.
All’s fun when it’s done.
Hey you guys ever take a look at this Worst guy? He looks mighty suspicious. I say we vote there.

[NorwegianboyEE]

*knowing wink*

[NorwegianboyEE]

Lynching me will only delay the inevitable.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Does Norway still have this chain of small stores called "Joker"?
It's been years since I've been to Norway, and the only thing I remember was that the roads up north were crazy, and "Joker"s only sold coffee and cigarettes.

Yeah we do, i was in one just a day ago. It's basically a tiny version of the regular convenience store now.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'd unvote Nor pending mod q's but I don't want to

Why worst?
Don't you trust me?

[NorwegianboyEE]

So I kinda forgot the game was happening, but I've played this setup a couple times in the queue before, (but not modded them) and usually it does matter who gets lynched first, just because if you get town, you get a mislynch and so forth. I saw the lack of votecount and it looks like it was Kagesong or me. I knew if I voted Kage I'd either get scum and p much win, or I'd get town and also win (killing town). That's how it goes pretty much every time. So I flipped a coin that would only land heads up and show me dying.

I get this setup mixed up a lot, though, with bastard (and also every time I skim this I think deputies can inherit the gunsmith role) which is why I posted like I did at beginning of day 3. I know you all know I'm town, cuz if you didn't think I was, Dannflor would have shot me yesterday. Let's lynch The Worst and win this thing for the homies?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'm good at ignoring WIFOM from caught scum, but it fucks with a lot of people.

Don't buss too hard. We can still win this buddy.

[NorwegianboyEE]

VOTE: The worst
Scum
Scum
Scum

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’m gonna do what’s called a pro gamer move.
BAH!

[NorwegianboyEE]

Sorry Norwegian...tried to give you a hint when I asked about the PM from mod, but the way you answered I had to take you out.

Why are you sorry? You took my screw-up and made it so we would win the game. That was awesome playing gj!

[NorwegianboyEE]

And what was the point of a mafia deputy???

To make me fuck up a claim.

[NorwegianboyEE]

OK, not sorry!

Yes. I had a gut feeling we would win the game based on you catching me on a "scum-slip" so i tried to make it seem as natural as possible, even trying to make it seem like i was intentionally creating a fake association with you "bussing" me. (Which was true lmao.)

[NorwegianboyEE]

Lynching me will only delay the inevitable.

^

[NorwegianboyEE]

This was a quite easy game overall, since town was always focusing on the wrong people. I don't know how D3 would have gone if i didn't mess up my claim, but i have a feeling we could have won by that point too.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Also it was sad reading your posts Kagesong. Hope you'll get your life sorted out in the future.

[NorwegianboyEE]

if we are a nature documentary, norwegianboyee is definitely a bird of prey waiting for us to tear us apart so he can feed on whatever is left

take this how you will

This post made me laugh when i first saw it. Lol.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I will READ THE RULES in the future.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I extend my thanks and congratulations to my teammates. To everyone else... Suckers!

[NorwegianboyEE]

Also Non Imh. You were a great asset to us, but seriously. Can you try to post some content in the games you join? If you're just going to contribute the bare minimum of content and place votes haphazardly it will hand the game over to mafia.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Oh sorry, i forgot to say that i consent to releasing mafia PT.