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VOTE: votato

I rolled a 13-sided dice.

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VOTE: Atarashi Hajimari

For trolling the mod in both of your posts. You should be ashamed young person.

B-but I followed the rules...

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No ma'am, I would never.

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Does Dolly have a Daddy issue?

Hello all.

Among many other issues.

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Fix'd to be in line with the rules.

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But more importantly,

VOTE: Drew-sta

Is, according to the rules and the mod, of the devil. The devil is bad.

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Oh boy it looks like I'll be asleep during the times that most people are awake. How lovely.

I like eyestott and goofball for town so far. Not a fan of quasar so UNVOTE: whoever I was on and VOTE: quasar

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Oooh add blurry onto the list of people to eventually pressure.

@mod: can you turn on my multiple votes superpower now? I wanna vote for two people at the same time.

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Add fwesnid to the list of potential scumboats too.

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Miss Parton can be town.

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Ooooooh the unintentional pagetop steal.

DAMN

am I good or what?

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Not sure what to think about votato, but I'll toss him in the town pile for now

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Aight I'm done spamming the thread.

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Oh boy it looks like I'll be asleep during the times that most people are awake. How lovely.

I like eyestott and goofball for town so far. Not a fan of quasar so UNVOTE: whoever I was on and VOTE: quasar

thats a lot of reads for being so early in the game. quasar doesn't seem super duper serious about his, but atarashi seems a lot more serious. Also, seeing someone else post reads and then posting your own reads reads a bit like scum thinking that they need to do something to look like they're gamesolving. at the same time its page 4, so I'm gonna give everyone a pass for now. consider it noted.

Dang you really don't want to be put in a townpile, do you? Fine, if you insist I'll take you back out of it.

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Actually, VOTE: Votato

I'm trying real hard to see how that post comes from a town-mindset and I'm drawing a blank.

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Alright votato lets look at this post in question

Oh boy it looks like I'll be asleep during the times that most people are awake. How lovely.

I like eyestott and goofball for town so far. Not a fan of quasar so UNVOTE: whoever I was on and VOTE: quasar

thats a lot of reads for being so early in the game. quasar doesn't seem super duper serious about his, but atarashi seems a lot more serious. Also, seeing someone else post reads and then posting your own reads reads a bit like scum thinking that they need to do something to look like they're gamesolving. at the same time its page 4, so I'm gonna give everyone a pass for now. consider it noted.

The shading is real in this post. If this is something that pings you as something scum would do, why would you not pressure it? Especially when we're so early in the dayphase that literally nothing else is going on, what else is there to do

but

pressure it? But you give me a pass, but

'consider it noted'

, like you'll bring it back up if someone else decides to push me off of it.

Now let's move onto #83 because it only gets better. #83 is where you're listing "scummy things" I've done. Let's look at some of them.

using the plural of "die" while clearly talking about only one.

Literally fluff.

wanting to pressure people but not stating a case, and having such a long scum list. There's been virtually 0 meaningful content to get reads from.

1. Why on earth would I case someone 4 pages in to D1?
2. I've stated that I have four suspects for scum so far. Given that we know that there are three scum players in this game, that's not that long.
3. Just because you don't see any meaningful content, doesn't mean I haven't. Why haven't you asked me what I'm basing my reads off of if you're so curious where I'm pulling it from?

see above. credit for trying to get the game moving, but negative credit for the way youre going about doing it.

How should I be going about getting the game moving? Also, what ways are you getting the game moving?

I don't really care how you read me at this point. Unless you're reading me as a potential mate/romantic partner, and then color me interested (that goes for everyone btw). I'm still curious though why you're being so aggressive, and why you chose to post a read list immediately after quasar.

1. Take me out to dinner first, then we'll see.
2. Oh honey, this isn't me being aggressive. This is me being bored.
3. Do you think the order in which slots post reads is AI? In what way? Also, if you do think it's AI, what's your read on quasar for being the first person to post a readslist?

How is it scummy to point out scummy behavior? You want pressure on people and have weak reasoning. It seems scummy to be so confident in your reads at this stage.

1. It's not scummy to point out scummy behavior. It

is

scummy to point out said behavior and then not pressure it. It's even scummier to point out scummy behavior, and then say "Nah, I'll give it a pass for now.".
2. You say I have weak reasoning for pressuring people, but have yet to ask for what my reasoning is. How do you know what I'm pressuring people off of?
3. Furthermore, how strong of reasoning are you expecting out of any read when we're 4 pages into this game?
4. The only read I'm confident on right now is yours.

And finally:

And then there's your vote on me that seems pretty OMGUSsy. UNVOTE: . VOTE: atarashi

Speaking of a vote that seems pretty OMGUSsy.

More pressure on Votato pls.

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[quote="In post 75, Atarashi Hajimari"
Miss Parton can be town.

Why?[/quote]

I like 16 and 66.

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Ah, formatting fail. T_T

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Eh, actually the more I think about it, the less I like 47, but I still think she's probably town.

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In the future, could you do me a favor and just quote the specific parts you're responding to instead of just a blah paragraph like this? I have a short attention span and it helps me keep track of what you've responded to so I don't start thinking you're ignoring stuff. Thankies <3

as it happens, i did pressure you.

I mean, after I called you out for not doing so when it doesn't make any sense from a town perspective not to do so, yeah you did.

this whole saga is me asking you to explain yourself. but instead of explaining yourself you went ahead and started saying im scum.

If you genuinely want me to explain my reads, it might help for you to ask me what, in particular, you want me to explain instead of just saying "explain stuff".

im not sure how you should get the game moving. but i dont think that saying you find x. y, z, and w scummy without reason is all that helpful.

So you don't know how we should move out of RVS, just not the way I decided to get us out of RVS.

I feel like me pushing back against you did get us moving. and not just from RVS to RQS, but to actual content. Again though, I'll give you some of the credit, you were right there with me holding my hand. Why dont you take me out to dinner instead? Since you're calling me honey ill take it youre at least somewhat interested.

Oh honey, no that's just my inner Texan coming out.

I think posting reads is normally NAI, but i think when it happens on page 3/4, if one person posts reads and then another immediately starts following, it pings.

What does it ping as? The end of RVS and time to get serious?

I'm not expecting a confident read. thats why im surprised that you seem to be so confident. Maybe once you explain your initial reads itll all make sense.

I'm hardly married to any of my reads, but if you want me to elaborate on some/any of my reads just ask.

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My vote remains on Dolly.

We're past RVS. Why keep it here, unless it's serious?

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I like 16 and 66.

What do you like about them?

16 because it reads to me like she's looking for a serious place to put her vote and not on something dumb like someone self-voting. Desire to find a way to progress the game.

66 is looking to get content out of people and progress the game in a way that helps her and/or others sort people.

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Also drew, what are your thoughts on the interactions between me and votato?

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My vote remains on Dolly.

We're past RVS. Why keep it here, unless it's serious?

Vaguely serious, but I can't say much without proper reason. But like I said, when I find telltale cues, I will revote.

How does 16 and 66 suggest that Dolly is town?

Scroll up.

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UVC:

eyestott (1/7) - eyestott
votato (2/7) - atarashi, fwesnid
goofball (2/7) - red panda, misa
dolly (1/7) - gibus
gibus (1/7) - pete
blurry (2/7) - quasar, dolly
quasar (1/7) - blurry
atarashi (1/7) - votato

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Probably should've put the UVC on this post rather than the previous one but oh well

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So I got fuck-all sleep last night but yolo lets do this. Catching up.

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Going back, actually, this post bugs me.

Also drew, what are your thoughts on the interactions between me and votato?

You're tunnelling each other at the moment. He's attacking, you're defending, IMHO.

That's an interesting perspective given that we were both attacking each other. Speaking of confbias...

Your 'townread everyone' is presumptive and he's pressuring that, which I think is reasonable.

Except I scumread (4 -> quasar, blurry, fwesnid, votato) more people than I townread (3 -> eyestott, goofball, dolly)? What do you mean by this statement?

Your OMGUS vote is obvious.

Definitionally you're incorrect, but I think it's a little disingenuous to reduce the reasons I gave for pressuring him down to just OMGUS.

His retort is maybe childish but makes sense given he appears to believe you're reading scum. I'd say you're digging a hole for yourself with a number of your responses in posts.

Care to elaborate as to how I'm 'digging a hole' for myself?

I'm curious to see if you can articulate why you've town read people so early in a game.

I'll put them all here since I know votato asked me to explain all of them, even though you're only asking for my townreads:

eyestott - based almost entirely off of 46 and 53. Desire to get out of RVS and onto the game proper is usually townie IMO and while his execution of getting people out of RVS left a lot to be desired, the intention seemed genuine and I townread that.

goofball - based off 58, 59, 60 and 61. Reads as town trying to be semi-productive while still in RVS. 60 is big to me for this read - getting other people to elaborate on stuff creates more content and is

usually

townie.

dolly - already elaborated on her but it's here for you to look over again.

quasar - he's in the scumpile because of 68. Literally a nonsensical readslist that he seems to actually be pulling legitimate reads from but hasn't really made much of anything in the way of an attempt to translate it so that other people can understand it. 70 has an attempt to explain it but leaves me more confused than I was before.

blurry - based on 39 and 44. Says his scum senses are tingling, but doesn't vote until asked why he didn't do so (+townie points to eyestott for calling him out on it). Inb4 someone says that it's RVS - I'm aware but that doesn't change my thought process.

fwes - based on 49. Getting out of RVS is a good thing and this post does about everything it can to laugh in the face of the (admittedly) feeble and lame attempt to get out of RVS.

votato - if you don't know why I'm scumreading votato then you haven't been reading the dayphase.

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Am I the only one who wants to lynch one of blurry/gibus and if it comes up read, lynch the other? This kinda just feels like two scumboats distancing.

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Also drew, what are your thoughts on the interactions between me and votato?

You're tunnelling each other at the moment. He's attacking, you're defending, IMHO. Your 'townread everyone' is presumptive and he's pressuring that, which I think is reasonable.

Your OMGUS vote is obvious. His retort is maybe childish but makes sense given he appears to believe you're reading scum. I'd say you're digging a hole for yourself with a number of your responses in posts.

I'm curious to see if you can articulate why you've town read people so early in a game.

Can you expand on how atarashi's vote was omgus, because for it being obvious I didn't see it?
I've found Atarashi's townreads quite reasonable. The dolly one is good and I would Imagine he has as good reasoning for the others, because there's been enough content from several people to give them a light townread.

Your attempt to pocket me is noted. Be aware that if you actually want to pocket me, flattery is a much better way of doing so than just agreeing with me.

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VOTE: BlurryFace

We need a wagon.

I'm also curious why this wagon in particular when you had two potential wagons to pick from in me and votato, but you're probably town so I'm not sure how much I care.

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I get serious noob vibes from votato.

Eh, the more I'm re-reading the more I think this is probably true and, if true, is more likely to be noob-town rather than noob-scum given the tunneling so I'll UNVOTE: and find a better place for my vote. Probably somewhere in the blurry/gibus debacle but I'm not sure yet.

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@votato: you wanted all my reads. I posted them. What are your thoughts?

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Am I the only one who wants to lynch one of blurry/gibus and if it comes up read, lynch the other? This kinda just feels like two scumboats distancing.

Also, I retract this bit.

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The fact that after we both called gibus/blurry out as possible partners, Gibus switches his vote to the next one voting him?

Gut ping off of 157. Forgive my newbieness for showing but why would this imply distancing?

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What changed? The fact that after we both called gibus/blurry out as possible partners, Gibus switches his vote to the next one voting him?

Just to clarify, my vote wasn't omgus. I explained why I switched in 157.

That's not even close to what Dolly was suggesting

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I learned recently that apparently the expectation is for everyone to be on a wagon or their vote is wasted.

I think this kind of comment and line of questioning should be saved for endgame to avoid dragging the DP into a mafia theory discussion that doesn't create any AI content

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I also feel that this sentence

I'm not sure I'm totally sold on either blurry or gibus' wagons, but

their interaction is strange and doesnt read as town v town.

And this sentence

At the same time, i feel like just hopping on a wagon

doesn't add to pressure, and it's just sheeping

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Are contradictory. Specifically the boldes.

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I don't think your read is necessarily wrong, I just think its to early to say, and you're giving more credit than is due.

Quoting this part in particular because you say something along these lines to almost every single read.

Dude, we're not even 200 posts into D1. If you're expecting super fleshed out reads with multiple points of reference to solidly state someone's affiliation one way or another, you have to be on some wicked strong drugs and I want some.

I've stated multiple times that I'm really not super committed to any of these reads - they can certainly change as the game progresses (like blurry for example, these reads were originally made before the blurry/gibus stuff so I have to re-sort his slot at some point). These reads were made when the game had ~100 posts. If you're not taking them with a grain of salt, idk what to tell you.

This post is also probably more harsh than it needs to be and I dont really mean it like this I'm just super tired but I cant fall asleep so here I am.

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this is what initially pinged me about you. I agree with your read (although its super early and therefore i took it to be mostly non-serious). But then you go ahead and do the same thing later on the same page, also giving no justification for your reads. If you thought it was scummy, why did you do the exact same thing immediately afterwards. theres a contradiction there.

Also if you think the level of clarity in my reads is the same as the level of clarity in the reads list quasar posted, I

REALLY

want whatever drugs you're on. Probably strong enough to knock me out and I can finally sleep.

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3 Fwesnid
4 gibus

Blurryface3189

11Red Panda
12Drew-Sta
13Dolly Parton

1 unsubstantial this far but nice vote on drew

Like, look at this. Just look at it. This is as clear as mud.

Really though, wtf is this even saying?

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No offense Quasar, I'm not trying to just diss you. But really, actually nonsense.

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I also had unvoted from votato...

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155 for reference @mod

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@gibus who do you townread right now?

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Shouldn't be. I don't think that kind of shenaniganry is allowed in this queue without letting us know its a possibility.

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No my pagetop

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logical to TR his original list of suspects.

Why?

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I'll probably go through and make a UVC since the official votecount seems off.

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Also

If you place Quasar on the scum list,

Do you place quasar as scum?

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Misatange
Red panda
Pickaxes Pete
Fwesnid
QuantumQuasar

Likely at least one scumboat floating in here. Maybe two, not sure.

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Yeah, I like gibus here

VOTE: gibus

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To be clear gibus, when I ask yoi

Do you place quasar as scum?

And you reply with

Hard to say, but he looks slightly scummy. Why make an

intuitive

list so early and ask to start from there? Or maybe he is town and just wants to help.

Like, isn't it uncomfortable to sit that dead-center on the fence? That can't be comfortable.

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That looks like strong confirmation bias.

Not really. You had the choice between three acceptable answers:

"Yes I think he's scum."
"No I don't think he's scum."
"Idk I want to see more content before I say."**

Had you given one of these three answers I wouldnt have voted you. But instead you tried to give all three at once. Hence, fencesitting.

**its debatable whether this is good enough to not be fence sitting but for the sake of the argument I'll give it a pass.

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Blurry is the better choice

Why?

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I'll respond to 216 when I get home and I'm not sitting at work on my phone.

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When you say blurry is the better choice, do you mean in terms of more likely to be scum or some other criteria?

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When you say blurry is the better choice, do you mean in terms of more likely to be scum or some other criteria?

Yeah, more likely to be scum.

Can you elaborate more then? Because from my perspective gibus might be more 'responsive' but the responses are just really bad.

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Also gimme

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My

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Pagetop <3

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GET REKT

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I agree, hopefully blurry will get active soon. I'd say he'll get prodded eventually but two people should've been prodded by now and nothing has happened yet soo...

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I agree, hopefully blurry will get active soon.

There are other ways to force him into action

*cough*vote him*cough*

I mean...I still think gibus is a more productive lead. If I get bored then I'll hop over.

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Seriously Dolly. how can you look at 234 and 236 and say "Nah, the other guy's worse"?

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Misatange
Red panda
Pickaxes Pete
Fwesnid
QuantumQuasar

Likely at least one scumboat floating in here. Maybe two, not sure.

Are you townreading or scumreading that list? Because 1-2 scum in five people is as good as random.

It was a list of people who had <10 posts.

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i.e. people who are lurking.

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Unintentional pagetop but I'll take it

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This post is more or less a prodge. Feeling super unmotivated to do much with this game (and life in general, but I'mma avoid ranting here). I'll catch up at some point.

Still don't really know why we aren't hard pressuring gibus. Seems like pretty clear scum.

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Are there no other options? I could be persuaded for a QQ wagon but I'm not a fan of a blurry wagon.

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Aight I'm down for QQ then.

VOTE: QuantumQuasar

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QQ from experience doesn't post much. Not sure what you mean by "it paid off"

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QQ from experience doesn't post much. Not sure what you mean by "it paid off"

We hit scum

I mean, maybe. I haven't seen him posting any differently than he has in previous games I've played with him so

shrug

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You may be a townie or a goon. But you are a human being and for that, as a token of virtue, I wish you a good night.

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You may be a townie or a goon. But you are a human being and for that, as a token of virtue, I wish you a good night.

Are we being trolled?

I told you we should lynch 'im.

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He [gibus] will for sure be suspect number 1 come tomorrow, barring any night action information.

Why?

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Nevermind.

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I'm not helping you with it so good luck <3

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Okay I'm sorry it's been sitting around for so long I can't just not take it. Ily mod <3

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What the hell did I just read...

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Okay I'm around now. Gonna more seriously read over this cluster and try to post something before close

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Haruhi- this isn’t a question but you were good posting and I see you’re demotivated so come talk with me!

Hai. I agree with you that the Drew kill was pretty weird. I'll probably read over D1 during the night phase to see if there's something that hinted at him having a PR that might've drawn the kill but otherwise I'm not sure.

Outside of that, imma wait for the flip before I give any more reads.