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In post 406, votato wrote:VOTE: gibus. that's L-2. I want better explanation from gibus about why he killed QQ rather than just stating intent to hammer or letting QQ defend himself. As someone who was on that wagon, even I wasn't ready for a lynch there. pressure=/=reason or intent to lynch. thats just the way the game progresses. you have to push people for clues and information. shake the tree and see what falls out. you dont drop a bomb on the tree just in case theres a hornets nest.
What do you think he'll flip?In post 418, votato wrote:what. the. fuck.
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This could easily be a scum buddy if gibus flips scum.
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From this post alone, I'd argue it's Fwensnit>Blurryface>votato>DrippingGoofball.In post 520, Dolly Parton wrote:
QuantumQuasar (7) - DrippingGoofball, votato,In post 517, notscience wrote:Who do you think on the d1 wagon is scum dollyDolly Parton, Fwesnid,Atarashi Hajimari,Blurryface3189,gibus
Probably in this order, scummiest at the top:
Blurry
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Quentin is mislynch bait and scum don't want to be seen pushing that too early, but they'll be happy to hop on later if town push it.-
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Nice! Being null is the best, it means you stay in the game for the max amount of time possible.In post 524, notscience wrote:I want to see paragon do some things today because that slot is a steaming pile of null-
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Will I come across it as I ascend from post whatever that last was that I quoted?In post 555, notscience wrote:Hey paragon Pete had a question for you-
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Oh, interesting. I went nowhere.In post 534, Pickaxe Pete wrote:Paragon, where did you go last night?-
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Lul, good job spotting that.In post 567, Pickaxe Pete wrote:In post 559, Paragon wrote:
Oh, interesting. I went nowhere.In post 534, Pickaxe Pete wrote:Paragon, where did you go last night?
In 2125 eyestott did you a solid with a clear. I read this as saying that you should have two clears. We're in a position where we need them. So I'm either sheeping you today or voting you.In post 409, Paragon wrote:Hey, eyestott! I reckon I'll repay the favour in this game if you catch my drift.
My intention with that entirely was to soft an investigative PR with that post, hope scum!eyestott or other scum catch on, and then nightkill me (a meh slot). So much for that though.-
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Yep.In post 572, notscience wrote:Just paraphrasing for myself and others (please correct if wrong)
Pete is calling out a soft claim from paragon referencing another game that ended with eyeatott
Paragon is saying it was a bait-
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Because if it wasn't already obvious, I'm not a strong PR, and better I die over one. Also, I was in a lot of people's PoE as far as I could tell, so it's an in-optimal nightkill for scum.In post 575, votato wrote:how would it help town if you were killed? who do you think it would have pointed to?-
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Since replacing in, I have gut townreads on you and Dolly. Pete is probably town for noticing that and not nightkilling me.In post 576, notscience wrote:Talk to me about your reads paragon. I’ll talk about pretty much anyone
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Does this mean a nullread based on content is your best scumread? Is there nothing that points to anyone else being scum?In post 535, Dolly Parton wrote:
That's why the speed in which gibus was lynched makes it hard to say Blurry is scum because of the lolhammer. Hell, if I was scum I would seriously consider a lolhammer too. But its all WIFOM.In post 528, votato wrote:Well scum could lolhammer knowing the last person was town and being (rightly) that we wouldn't go after the second lolhammer. To you the lolhammer seems to give townpoints
Blurry also put QQ to L-1.
I've complied all of Blurry's vote posts (which is 36% of his ISO lol)
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None of this says that Blurry scum but also I can't find anything that points to Blurry being town.
VOTE: blurry
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The emotion if I'm being honest. It's a pretty shallow read.In post 579, notscience wrote:What do you like about dolly?-
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Pete is probably town now but it depends on ~things~. No point discussing them now.In post 580, votato wrote:so you interpret pete as asking you to out your result?-
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I softed with the intention eyestott would pick up on it, for reasons you're fully aware of! The plan was to get nightkilled if eyestott was scum basically.In post 586, Aloratom wrote:
You softed a PR that you didn't think anyone would pick up on. When called on it, you thought I might be running a gambit to get you to claim. Now you want me to claim.In post 585, Paragon wrote:Actually, it's pretty obvious you're tracker at this point, Pete. Scum will know for a fact if they're not oblivious, so out with your claim. I have more thoughts to give after you claim.
Did you miss this? I think you did and that you may be scum.In post 442, Pickaxe Pete wrote:I catch your drift
VOTE: Paragon
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It's pretty subtle to anyone not in that game. If eyestott is scum, he probably assumes I town!me trusts him, and his confiding him with this info. So then he hopefully believes and nightkills me. In theory, me being alive today makes eyestott look better too.In post 598, votato wrote:yeah but paragon, the soft wasnt very subtle. why did you think eyesnott would pick up on it in particular?-
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It's pretty subtle to anyone not in that game. As far as I believed, eyestott was the only one. If eyestott is scum, he probably assumes town!me trusts him, which is why I'm confiding in him with this info. So the hope is then that he nightkills me. In theory, me being alive today makes eyestott look better too.In post 598, votato wrote:yeah but paragon, the soft wasnt very subtle. why did you think eyesnott would pick up on it in particular?
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Yep. I think I'm pretty good at reading him actually. I'm 3/3 on him. 2 times he was scum, once he was town.In post 602, notscience wrote:Anyone played with both scum and town aloratn or however it’s fucking spelled?
Bc at first skim glance at a few games the low effort looked more like scum but I’m not super sure either way-
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Definitely the former. You've seen me pull this kind of stuff plenty of times as town before, Alore (the post restriction). Soft-claiming to eyestott like that early probably makes him a little paranoid of me rather than pocketed (if he's town). If he's scum, he has a lot less reason to believe it's a lie though, and is more likely to night kill me.-
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Getting nightkilled as a VT and kinda overall scumleaned slot?In post 610, votato wrote:i dont see any upside for town!paragon to run this gambit.
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votato's also been on both mislynches:
In post 351, Saladman27 wrote:QuantumQuasar (7) - DrippingGoofball, votato, Dolly Parton, Fwesnid, Atarashi Hajimari, Blurryface3189, gibus --LYNCH--
Atarashi scumreading votato, a lot.In post 491, Saladman27 wrote:gibus (6) - DrippingGoofball, Dolly Parton, Pickaxe Pete, votato, Paragon, Blurryface3189 <--LYNCH
Drew-Sta scumreading votato, a lot.
I know night kill analysis is often ignored on this site, but this is some of the more obvious signs I've seen. There's no indication that either Drew-Sta or Atarashi were PRs. Atarashi infact only posted like 4 times on Day 2, and still got nightkilled Night 2. Scum doesn't nightkill both of them if votato is town when Atarashi and Drew would otherwise push a mislynch through on him at some point.
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In post 575, votato wrote:how would it help town if you were killed? who do you think it would have pointed to?In post 580, votato wrote:so you interpret pete as asking you to out your result?In post 598, votato wrote:yeah but paragon, the soft wasnt very subtle. why did you think eyesnott would pick up on it in particular?
This is fence-sitting on the Paragon-soft situation, and being afraid to take a stance on the potential mislynch of the day. You could quite easily see both town and scum motivations for my actions - and multiple people including myself and Alore had just explained said reasons/motivations, so that last post is especially scummy.In post 610, votato wrote:i dont see any upside for town!paragon to run this gambit. I also don't see any motivation for scum!paragon to do it.-
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You asked me a lot of questions, and the conclusion you drew from my answers was a very neutral/safe one.
What do you think of the motivations Pete and I proposed, specifically? If you disagree with them and don't think they're valid, explain why please.
I threw in the "votato was on both mislynches" thing because it points slightly more towards you being scum. 90% of my case is for the nightkills fwiw. I missed the post where Atarashi unvoted you and said they were reconsidering, I'll have a closer look at that when I have some time later.-
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In post 636, votato wrote:"Good luck to you all."
that sounds like youre giving up. i have metareasons from an ongoing game that suggest this lines up with scum!paragon-
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What do you mean "at least" 2 of those 3? 1 of them is you.In post 652, votato wrote:
i think i agree with at least two of those three. I'm ok with inquiring there.In post 651, eyestott wrote:notty, I'm questioning everything. In my eyes, Para and Pete come out of this play looking town, Pete much more than Paragon.
My reads are still at like, a d1 state, because of how this game has played out. I have a gut feeling that the team is Blurry/votato/DGB, but this isn't substantiated by any proof, so please take it with a grain of salt.-
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I don't get this, Alore. What's wrong with having your vote there anyway if you still scumread me? No harm in having it there rather than nowhere.In post 896, Pickaxe Pete wrote:Doesn't appear there's will to lynch there. No reason for me to be on a vanity wagon at this point.
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Thanks! Could you address 925?In post 929, Pickaxe Pete wrote:
eyestott - 1X BP 1X WatcherIn post 927, Paragon wrote:QuantumQuasar- Town Jailkeeper.
Drew-Sta- Town 1-Shot Voyeur.
gibus- VT
Atarashi Hajimari- VT
Fwesnid- Watcher
votato- 1-shot Roleblocker
Paragon- VT
Pete- VT
Klick- VT
notsci 1X weak follower
drippinggoofball 1X voyeur
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Any reason you decided not to crumb this time around?In post 799, eyestott wrote:I didn’t really “crumb” this game, even though I’ve done so in the other games I’ve been in that are now finished-
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