Mini Normal 2139: No Flavor Allowed - Game Over

[Ame]

Would you look at who it is. Heads up for everyone else:

Ame relishes in playing scum, so she only replaces into slots she hard scumreads after ISOing them in the replacement queue. Just some food for thought.

I had a dream that you, in the form of your evil Mario avatar, and I had a battle to the death. It was quite gruesome...

[Ame]

I'll vote wherever farside votes

[post=brass]brass[/post]

[Ame]

nothing to see here


VOTE: brass

[Ame]

Paragraphs, Mr. Clidd. Paragraphs.

[Ame]

My guy claimed a pr?

[Ame]

lol i c

[Ame]

Is this your main?

[Ame]

Cool.

[Ame]

V/LA until Friday.

I'll still be able to meet deadlines.

[Ame]

VOTE: Quick

There's a neighborhood, right? Who is in it?

[Ame]

VOTE: cakez

[Ame]

Why Cakez?

obvscum

[Ame]

Quick, is being informed of the neighborhood/ who is in it the only thing you're informed about?

[Ame]

Why would you lynch outside of the hood if there's scum there regardless of quick's alignment.

I scum read hoctac and Cakez.

VOTE: hoctac

Hoctac lied about not knowing I was the persi slot. He's also trying to butter me up to get me to hammer. It would be silly not to lynch here.

[Ame]

Ame, is your Cakez read a meta one or are you doing [REDACTED] for [REDACTED]?

^Cakez' partner everyone.

[Ame]

That's silly. The "slip" is based on there being scum in the hood. Kuick can be scum or town, but the hood definitely contains scum. Lynching outside of it is illogical. Additionally, it would be an absurd slip for scum to make. It is much more reasonable that it was informed Klick trying to solve the hood.

[Ame]

Unfortunately, people tend to take open wolfing as a town tell but I think it's apparent Hoc is scum.

Umlaut, you noticed earlier when Hoc lied about not knowing I was the Persi slot, yes? What do you think to be the town motivation for this? (Partially rhetorical)

Mr. Clidd, where are you on Hoctac? Care to join me?

[Ame]

What do you think is the scum-motivation in that, Ame?

General chaos. Your play is centered around masking your scum motive by making contradiction the norm. By having two reads on my slot, you can read me without reading me, and it puts you in a position where you can flexibly alter the read.

[Ame]

Umlaut, you noticed earlier when Hoc lied about not knowing I was the Persi slot, yes? What do you think to be the town motivation for this? (Partially rhetorical)

If it's a lie, there is no town motivation. How do you know it's a lie? I forget who replaced whom all the time even when I take note of it at the time of the replacement. I actually double-checked you were Persi's replacement before saying that to him.

He quoted my posts referencing my slot as the reason for town reading me. He also already had the case written so he could copy-paste them side by side for humorous effect.

[Ame]

Ha that is impressive.

[Ame]

Lynching in the hood is 1/4 - assuming 1 scum. Lynching outside of the hood is 2/8 (from a town PoV).

As Zulfy stated, it's 2/9. Regardless, reducing the argument to raw probability is duplicitous as it removes human cognition from the equation. An example to make the point salient: you have a greater chance of selecting which one out two people is lying than you do selecting which 50 out of 100 people are lying. The random and raw probabilities are the same, but focusing your efforts on two people is far simpler than sorting 100. Additionally, lynching correctly inside the hood provides three innocent children, whereas lynching correctly outside of it does not.

[Ame]

I'll hammer later today.

[Ame]

Farside's reads look like the reads that scum fabricate.

Farside > Cakez > Hoc

[Ame]

Umlaut, I don't think Farside being convinced you are town from your response is sincere. It looks like the type of fake sorting that scum does.

[Ame]

We have 8 days. And I haven't had the chance to catch-up. Please do not hammer yet. Someone should unvote actually.

[Ame]

To be fair, I read it that way initially as well.

[Ame]

That said, I don't actually have the role.

I was counting on you.

[Ame]

That's fine Umlaut. I just want to catch up before we end the day. I haven't had a chance to read at all. And this is a busy week because classes are ending. I'll go into my cakez read when I catch up. Currently, I'm skimming when during my breaks.

[Ame]

Ill hammer if needed.

Actually I'm pretty sure I'm being trolled.

I changed my mind, farside, I'm fine with a hammer.

I would rather hold off. The wagon on quick is something i just want to look through. See again who voted and why.
Plus it pains me not to vote my strongest scum read.
So give me a day or 2.

Translation: I wanted to look townie by holding off the hammer that was promised by Ame without actually holding it off. But now that she isn't I have to look townie again.

[Ame]

I often lie about hammering to prevent others from doing so while I'm away.

[Ame]

Heya Looker. I love your avatar.

[Ame]

Every time I'm scrolling, I have to stop and admire it for a while.

[Ame]

We have 8 days. And I haven't had the chance to catch-up. Please do not hammer yet. Someone should unvote actually.

[Ame]

I haven't read past page 3 + skim of the last several pages. And I won't have enough time during the night to catch up.

[Ame]

But I guess I am just one person and if you guys are eager to move the game along, who am I to stop ya.

[Ame]

V/LA until Friday.

I'll still be able to meet deadlines.

That's fine Umlaut. I just want to catch up before we end the day. I haven't had a chance to read at all. And this is a busy week because classes are ending. I'll go into my cakez read when I catch up. Currently, I'm skimming when during my breaks.

[Ame]

VOTE: Cakez

[Ame]

^

[Ame]

What a strange thing to say.

[Ame]

Please allow me to read today.

[Ame]

wasn't Quick's informed claim that there was scum in the hood?
I wasn't interested before because I was sure he was scum
but I was wrong :/

You knew there was scum in the hood regardless since Klick was aware of the hood. If Klick was scum, then he had a partner in the hood. Are you claiming you were not aware of this?

the Lucky kill is weird

What is weird about it?

[Ame]

Ame: why didn't you read during the night phase.

I've posted this three times now:

V/LA until Friday.

I'll still be able to meet deadlines.

That's fine Umlaut. I just want to catch up before we end the day. I haven't had a chance to read at all. And this is a busy week because classes are ending. I'll go into my cakez read when I catch up. Currently, I'm skimming when during my breaks.

I've read through the first 10 pages. I'll be able to fully catchup Friday-Saturday.

Anyone have any thought before day ends?

Yes, please let me catch up before ending the day.

[Ame]

I didn't realize that, no. I thought Klick/Quick was in the hood.

...The hood claimed. Even I, who hasn't read the game, was aware of who was in it.

Lucky wasn't exactly very townie.

Yes he was.

[Ame]

I am a 1-shot cop. Persivul claimed Novice so that he could live through N1.

[Ame]

How...am I alive

[Ame]

Looker is the way to go obviously, but can we please not quick lynch this time.

[Ame]

I'll update this by Ame's response time:

[Umlaut] [Farside22]
[Looker] [Valoneast] [Hoctac]
[Reundo] [SirCakez]
[Brassherald] [Ame] [Zulfy]

Clidd, what was the point of this if you weren't going to kill me?

[Ame]

Ame, if you're 1-shot and you've used your shot then why shouldn't you be alive?

The quick hammer implied that I was wrong about Cakez and that scum were going to kill me in order to frame him.

My not dying seems to imply that my Cakez read was correct, as if he killed me, then he would be outed based on my "guilty."

[Ame]

Because I can mislynch you. Welcome to my game.

Interesting. This is only the case if Hoc is your partner. Since it is you + Looker this isn't the case. If you cannot convince Hoc I am scum, you will not be able to get it through.

[Ame]

Ame, are you really cop ?

Yes.

[Ame]

wasn't Quick's informed claim that there was scum in the hood?
I wasn't interested before because I was sure he was scum
but I was wrong :/

You knew there was scum in the hood regardless since Klick was aware of the hood. If Klick was scum, then he had a partner in the hood. Are you claiming you were not aware of this?

I didn't realize that, no. I thought Klick/Quick was in the hood.

the Lucky kill is weird

What is weird about it?

Lucky wasn't exactly very townie.

Since when haven't you read a game?
You do realize multiple players pointed out the nighbor claim from hotoc. Which confirmed quicks claim. Your saying you ignored that?

I missed it
I've been confused about the hood all game

If this were the case, why did you immediately vote Brass? This doesn't seem like the action of someone confused about the hood.

[Ame]

Ah, so that's why you didn't kill me.

[Ame]

You thought the cop part was a gambit. I figured you would have thought that I was indeed a cop, but simply didn't have a guilty on Cakez and so you would kill me to frame Cakez. I wonder if this was your intention initially and you changed it during the night.

[Ame]

Yep, I didn't target Cakez.

[Ame]

Yes, I am going to take a nap. I will catch up later.

[Ame]

Because Quick flipped

How did quick's flip reveal to you the nature of the neighborhood?

[Ame]

If my result is the only thing keeping you guys from quick lynching as you have been the past two days, I am not going to out it until I am caught up.

[Ame]

The last time I took a nap, I woke up to the day ending. So no.

[Ame]

I'm awake! Cakez what is it that you are doing?

~The neighbors claimed day 1
~Quick confirmed knowledge of the hood
~Quick was either informed or scum with someone on the hood
~You claim you did not know who the neighbors were
~ Quick flipped, so now you know who the neighbors are?

How does that make sense?

[Ame]

[:

[Ame]

So you've played two games each with half a dozen neighborhoods and had no problem keeping track there, but now one neighborhood that has been claimed multiple times is too hard to keep track, yet you happened to know the scum player in the group. Uh huh.

[Ame]

It was made public here multiple times and it was one hood.

[Ame]

That's also not what a strawman is.

[Ame]

Clidd is trying way too hard

I guess you

could

be Clidd's partner. I had forgotten about this post.

[Ame]

VOTE: Quick

There's a neighborhood, right? Who is in it?

Me, brass, valoneast, Zulfy.

One of us is scum with Quick.

See how easy that was

[Ame]

Ame, what do you think of clidd now?

Obv scum. I'll have a full analysis once I'm fully read up. I don't know if his partner is Looker or Cakez. I thought it was Looker before, but now I'm leaning Cakez. There's also a chance it's Zulfy since he didn't seem to believe my claim yesterday, which would imply that he knew Cakez was town.

[Ame]

Like he is obviously squirming because he realized he made a mistake not killing me and he probably thinks I have a guilty on him. Especially from this:

Aren't you one-shot ? (1-bullet, 1-shot, whatever)

[Ame]

Clidd, 1-shot means the ability can only be used once.

[Ame]

No.

[Ame]

Cakez has been trying to play Mr. Cool guy all game, but it looks really fake. Also, there's the fact that I didn't die.

[Ame]

Will definitely be keeping a close eye on Ame after Hungarian 2

This is what initially pinged me about Cakez. It looks like fake paranoia.

[Ame]

When you said something to the like of "this is a know ame move where she unvotes to get the other person to vote and then hammers," it felt like you were trying to manipulate me to hammer. It reminded me of when you playfully made me the bad cop in Boon's game which ultimately ended up turning dsj and I against each other.

[Ame]

+n

[Ame]

Those are assumptions I didn't have. The only thing I had really read were the first few pages, the top part of your case, and bits here and there.

[Ame]

But ending the day 10 days in advance after a bunch of slots just replaced in and hadn't had a chance to voice themselves is advantageous to scum. I think that is pretty straightforward.

[Ame]

You were my first choice to investigate during the night, but after reading some, I changed my mind.

[Ame]

No, the only thing that changed is my mind. I suppose it was after thinking over your response. It led me to believe that 1365 was the case rather than my original interpretation.

Why are you questioning me? Do you believe scum!Ame claims cop unprovoked? And do you not think Persi was making an attempt to not be blocked/killed N1? Is it that you believe my read on quick was TMI? It was not.

[Ame]

Also PoE: there were people that were scummier during my catchup. The slot that Looker replaced in particular. And Clidd. I also skimmed Brass's posts. And I along with Cakez and Farside. I thought there was a good chance scum was among those 5.

[Ame]

It led me to believe that 1365 was the case rather than my original interpretation.

Regarding this, the push on ddl in Strawberry is where I was pulling from.

[Ame]

but you just revealed I wasn't the player you cleared with it.

Good good.

[Ame]

I'm talking about what changed your opinion from what you said in 1363 (the openwolfing and chaos and confusion stuff).

I don't mean this with regards to the cop check, I'm talking about how you're treating me as town today with how you were saying to clidd he'd have to get me on his side to lynch you

I suppose it was after thinking over your response. It led me to believe that 1365 was the case rather than my original interpretation.

Also PoE: there were people that were scummier during my catchup. The slot that Looker replaced in particular. And Clidd. I also skimmed Brass's posts. And I along with Cakez and Farside. I thought there was a good chance scum was among those 5.

[Ame]

Your current questions seem bad faith though. As I mentioned to you before, the way you overwhelmed dsj with questions in Boon's. Like you're deliberately ignoring my answers and asking me the same thing in a way to paint it as TMI/inconsistent.

[Ame]

Can you walk me through step-by-step how 1375 does not answer your question?

[Ame]

Like you're literally just asking me what I've already answered:

has your interpretation of that changed

It led me to believe that 1365 was the case rather than my original interpretation.

[Ame]

I think I may see the confusion. By '1365' I'm referring to THE POST, not the posts you quoted in it. Like the literal words you posted in in 1365: " I was really excited at the time to see Quick flip scum though; I was convinced I actually caught a slip lul".

[Ame]

So 1368 can be rephrased as:

I suppose it was after thinking over your response. It led me to believe that you were

pushing because you were really excited at the time to see Quick flip scum and were convinced you actually caught a slip

rather than my original interpretation.

[Ame]

More clarification:

I suppose it was after thinking over your response. It led me to believe that you were

pushing because you were really excited at the time to see Quick flip scum and were convinced you actually caught a slip

rather than my original interpretation you were being malicious.

[Ame]

I don't have an inno. I investigated Brass.

[Ame]

?

[Ame]

Yes.

[Ame]

Why did you do this, Ame?

didn't want to quick lynch or spend the day on a person I already knew was scum. had we utilized the day we possibly could have gotten some spew based on who brass tried to push

[Ame]

While we wait on the Ame lynch train I'd like to know why farside was night killed.

What do you mean? She was a universal town read correct?

Hour Glass Lucario was killed by Clidd btw.

[Ame]

Ame, I'm losing patience with you.

How come, Clidd?

[Ame]

Ame, I'm losing patience with you.

How come, Clidd?

I was expecting more effective scumhunting and an agreement from you with my PoE. Your claim is strange and doesn't give me much confidence, although I imagine that you are individually town.

I haven't read it. I fully intended to catch up on Friday/Saturday but got sidetracked with other things. Today I am really drained and unmotivated and exhausted from mafia. But I don't want to leave you guys in limbo so I will try to do some reading now.

[Ame]

Then why exhaust your one shot on the first night of the game.

I don't quite see how the quote pertains to what you're asking.

[Ame]

If you were one-shot cop you wouldn't have targeted brassherald, you would have targeted Hoctac.

Ok.

[Ame]

I already explained my progression on Hectic.

[Ame]

Er Hoctac

[Ame]

UNVOTE:

[Ame]

Oh I thought I may have still been on Cakez

[Ame]

VOTE: Looker

[Ame]

Zulfy let's be friends

[Ame]

I don't know Luciano's metagame, so I'm not convinced by clidd's argument.
I don't have a problem with #36, but #48 seems off.

Luciano, you are copying a comical approach to RVS for a reason that will be revealed later, and will show clear town motivation?
The fact that you were willingly repeating town posts and then covering up by saying you have reasons which will later be revealed looks like scumtell to me.

Maybe I'll change my mind when I see your reasons, but for now I'm voting for you. Do tell me if I misunderstood your posts.

VOTE: LuckyLuciano

'Opportunistic' is a fun buzzword, especially early-game. I appreciate the insight on Lucky, though.
VOTE: Umlaut

Klick, I may have missed your reason to vote Umlaut. Can you explain why?

This is a guaranteed scum tell. And seeing as Looker coordinated the quickhammer with Brass, it would be silly not to lynch her.

[Ame]

Oh nevermind, I originally read it with the 'are' and 'you' reversed.

[Ame]

Maybe someday Ame.
VOTE: Looker

I want to be friends now D:

And you've been my only consistent town read. What has Hoc said about me in the Hood? He and Clidd have a good amount of experience with me and town!them ought to be townreading me here. It stood out to me that you said Hoc was good with lynching me, but that he hasn't stated this in the public thread.

[Ame]

Also considering Brass's willingness to be lynched, I think there's a decent possibility that there is another scum in the hood since his lynch would pseudoclear them. Who began the we-are-definitely-lynching-you-tomorrow campaign against Brass N1? It sounds like a Zulfy line, but if it was Hoc, then I think this supports that idea.

[Ame]

UNVOTE: Looker

Just looked through his ISO. I haven't seen this much effort from her before. I'm not quite sure what to make of it, but it definitely comes off as town.

[Ame]

Clidd, what do you think about hour glass kill?

[Ame]

Even if Ame is not playing to scum meta her play is too atrocious to be town

How so?

[Ame]

She's just all over the place and her cop claim makes no sense

What about it does not make sense to you? And what do you mean by all over the place?

[Ame]

Do you not believe my explanation for withholding my result before, Umlaut? If so, why so?

[Ame]

Do you think Zulfy is the other scum in the hood?

1 Are you reading my posts?
2 Why are you asking a ton of questions and never following up on them?

[Ame]

@Clidd, where was the point you began to town read rag/Looker?

[Ame]

Hello. What is the know mechanical info? Claims etc.

There is a neighborhood consisting of SirCakez, Clidd, Brass and Auro
I am a 1-shot cop with a claimed guilty on SirCakez
Brass flipped scum (goon I think).

[Ame]

Oh and Klick/Quick was informed fruit vendor that had knowledge scum was in the neighborhood.

[Ame]

Oh and Klick/Quick was informed fruit vendor that had knowledge scum was in the neighborhood.

At least one scum or exactly one scum?

At least one scum.

I'm not voting because I don't want to lynch yet and I'm in the process of reading through the game. I can't suggest a starting point because I'm in the same boat :3

[Ame]

VOTE: Cakez

[Ame]

This is currently where I am at.

[Zulfy]

[Valoneast][Auro][B.S]

[Clidd][Hoctac]

[Looker][Umlaut]

[Sircakez]

[Ame]

Cakez + Umlaut probably. I suspect Looker wouldn't be posting this much if Cakez were his partner.

[Ame]

Actually I keep going back and forth with Hoctac as well since he isn't town reading me and there seems to be a discrepancy between what he is saying in the hood and what he is saying here.

[Ame]

I also don't like how he is waiting for me to make a push on Clidd. He just seems manipulative this game. I think there is definitely at least one scum in {Cakez , Umlaut} though.

[Ame]

I decided I am just going to play from the point of my replace in. I keep trying to read through Day 1 and find myself not getting into it. Here are my notes from what I did read don't laugh

Spoiler:

Page 1 The Persuit of Persiness
~I don't find any of the votes on Persi AI
~Umlaut's switch onto Luci feels off.
~I don't find any of the votes on Umlaut AI

Page 2 Clidd Gets Lucky
~On a second read through, I think this interaction is more indicative of town!Clidd. He reacts non-defensively against Lucky's accusations. And seems to be coming from the angle of sorting Lucky rather than for looking townie or lynching lucky.
~Zulfy's support with the push looked genuine. I don't think scum!Zulfy so emphatically puts himself in the spotlight this early.

Page 4 Atarashi Joins the Battle
~Clidd playing in egoless manner.
~Atarashi spews town Luciano
~The interaction between Cakez and Clidd reads as SvS.
~92 looks good for Umlaut. Questioning the case on a person he is pushing.

Page 5
~I like Hocs reasoning on Persi
~I

[Ame]

Looker is scum only if Hoc or Clidd is. Otherwise, he would be too demotivated to post as much as she has been.

[Ame]

VOTE: Umlaut

[Ame]

Do you not believe my explanation for withholding my result before, Umlaut? If so, why so?

This post was supposed to be to explain why so but after reading it again I guess I sort of do actually

UNVOTE: Ame

I do not like this at all.

[Ame]

It shows that Umlaut was complacent with my wagon despite not actually trying to actively sort me. And he just couldn't come up with a reason to keep it there after my prodding.

[Ame]

She's just all over the place and her cop claim makes no sense

What about it does not make sense to you? And what do you mean by all over the place?

(1) the way you've been pushing people and (2) how you were hiding your result for a while for no reason
(3) by all over the place I mean your shifts in tangents and votes is very confusing and to me illogical

1 What is the way I have been pushing people?
2 There was a reason: 1444. Do you think my reason is not fair?
3 If it is confusing, why have you not attempted to inquire about them? I am happy to explain anything that is confusing to you. I think you used this reasoning on Klick already, yes? Perhaps a new scumhunting method is in order. Additionally, what do you think is the scum intent behind such shifts. Do you think there is a possible town reason for them?

[Ame]

Your read on me is generally in the upper town range. Also didn't you have me as one of your top town reads when I replaced in?

[Ame]

Regarding Clidd, his end of Day yesterday seemed like he was positioning himself for today. And the Luciano kill seemed to indicate him.

[Ame]

Ok ]:

[Ame]

Are you extroverted or introverted?

[Ame]

How often, if ever, do you get exhausted from playing mafia? And if/when you do, what do you do about it (continue playing in your games but with less effort, replace out and spend time doing X activities, etc)?

[Ame]

Also, do you believe in God?

[Ame]

Hoc, two more questions:
Why do you often put off answering questions until later?
What site did you use? The one I sent Kanna?

[Ame]

Ame: Can you give me minimal summaries behind all your reads?

[Zulfy] - i don't think scum changes his votes the way he does. pushes people strongly and then changes without providing reason. the pattern also indicates that he is thinking
[Valoneast] - i don't remember. he was obv town when i read through the first 10 pages when i was looking for a target
[Auro] - oh wait you're valon right? I just remembered i town read the slot you replaced
[B.S] - 1540
[Clidd] - 1338 and the posts surrounding it
[Hoctac] - zulfy stated that hoc said something to the like of me possibly playing differently to be off of my scum meta. since none of his neighbors are aware of my scum meta, it is likely this is a genuine thought of his. otherwise, it would serve no purpose
[Looker] - voted brass when we were waiting on my result yesterday
[Umlaut] - explained above
[Sircakez] - too many discrepancies. fake pushes. fake solving. fake news.

Why do you suppose Looker would be relatively inactive with Fakez as a partner?

I don't think he really cares for being scum. If she thinks the game is a loss, i don't think

he would put this much effort

Do you not think Umlaut would be capable to come up with a reason? Because that really doesn't sound all that difficult to me - he could've simply gone "lol yes you were faking" and stayed tunneled, no? Why do you think he wouldn't have simply done so -

do you think he feels the need to justify every one of his actions with solid logic

? Has this been recurrent behaviour for him throughout this game?

Precisely the bold. (wow spelled 'precisely' right on my first try)! He's not the type of player to allow a discrepancy like that.

[Ame]

Hoc, I don't wanna say, I'm scared

[Ame]

Oggg I really don't know. You've been an enigma. It's something I've been trying to figure out for a while but I just don't know enough about you outside of mafia to say.

I definitely think you are and _N_P. But I have no idea if you're I/E!! I think there is a vastly disproportionate representation of introverts on the site as people who spend their time on a forum game are likely to be so. And considering you're one of the more involved players, it would suggest that you spend a lot of time on the computer.

That being said, I've always had a special kinship with ENFPs and that's how I feel with you. So I'd say err like 35% ENFP 30% INFP 30% INTP 5% ????

[Ame]

And you are very very close! I am an INTJ. My online personality doesn't show it but I am incredibly introverted. I love, love, love people, but interacting with them is incredibly exhausting.

[Ame]

Yeah it is a huge flaw! Among others.

[Ame]

You're right!! I'm ENFP. I'm actually kind of the same where I'll get very drained after too much social interaction, but I love people and usually force myself to anyway even while exhausted, which probably tips the scale to E slightly.

Spoiler:

[Ame]

@Ame:
Can you point me to a previous instance where scum!Looker went inactive when a partner of hers was being wagoned?

MN2115
More in this Meta-analysis.

That's an interesting assertion on Umlaut: if he was the type of player to be conscious of advancing his game with legitimate logical backing, why would he make that lazy attempt to stay on you in the first place?

Because scum have to make a move in some fashion or another. Otherwise, this wouldn't be much of a game. It's not as if he anticipated my callout. Had I not, he could have just sat on it.

[Ame]

Ame, did you crumb the result you had on Brass?

I did not. The day ended before I had a chance to do anything.

[Ame]

Cake, can you point me to some of your scum games?

[Ame]

Thanks for the links!
The point I'm getting at is that scum players who are conscious of being logically coherent also devote energy into maintaining that logical flow before they make a move. It would be odd for such scum to lazily sit somewhere, and then say "whoops, I guess I was wrong then" and shift gears suddenly without justifying their earlier move. Hence, I'd say that this inconsistent-ish behavior from "logic-conscious" scum would actually be a mild towntell!

Hmmm

[Ame]

Maybe you're right. I wouldn't put much weight into my reads. I tend to have a lower accuracy than rand.

[Ame]

Hoc can you put Cakez at L-1 for claim?

[Ame]

VOTE: Cakez