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[Zlair]

VOTE: Clair

L-1

This is now a serious wagon. Anyone not serious may flee like children now.

[Zlair]

VOTE: Clair

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This is now a serious wagon. Anyone not serious may flee like children now.

Your avatar is perfect too, had me for half a moment there.

For anyone not amused by this game I express my deepest condolences, this game has had some of the funniest moments in a game I've played in years.

my heart

[Zlair]

@Clair - you act like I read the thread rather than just the most current string of posts. I specifically want you to state "if this is true": citrus fruits, dancing, and rain?

[Zlair]

Blair, this is Zlair speaking. Leaving Clair out of it, which site did Flair rein from?

[Zlair]

Do we have to massclaim? Very well. I hardclaim Blair.

[Zlair]

@Clair - you act like I read the thread rather than just the most current string of posts. I specifically want you to state "if this is true": citrus fruits, dancing, and rain?

I do want this answered.

[Zlair]

Sooo you're

not

Ms. Number Analysis then?

[Zlair]

Damn, you made some posts that sounded so much like her. Blair, Clair isn't hoopla, right?

ABR apparently has discarded his objectively amazing skill that had lead him to 1v1 Blair just a moment ago.

No respect whatsoever for my game lol

If you believe someone is so good they can catch scum in the first 20 pages, I've got some bad news.

It takes time and inspiration. Skill alone isn't enough.

Mhm, so your Blair read was wrong because it was page "20", and now that it's page "21" your read on me is... better?



This is a troll, I think I can comfortably ignore everything coming out from this account now.

Because if she is, this post means she's scum.

[Zlair]

People really need to stop making parody fan accounts of Clair. Strange how they manage to make them before Clair made her account too. Maybe they're mind readers.

[Zlair]

Flair/Blair/Clair are just voting together as a bloc without any scumhunting because they are friends outside the game. this is getting ridiculous.

REPLACE OUT

ok so i for sure thought that ABR was scum, but replacing out makes you 100% town.

gobbles must be scum

This was really scummy from end of day 2. You don't go from scumreading someone to 100% thinking they're town because they replaced out. I've also seen votato pull a very similar thing as scum before, with slightly different circumstances.

VOTE: votato

Don't try and hold me back, Lairs.

[Zlair]

We're doing this huh. VOTE: gibus

what. the. fuck.

It was nice playing with you all. Goodbye

Yay, #420 post for me

But first..

Let me get my final pagetop

i mean, based on reaction, at this point i believe the claim.

nice playing with you gibus. sorry it happened like this.

i think its pretty bad for town to have 2 lolhammers, yeah. its hard to to VCA in a normal situation, but here its gonna be a nightmare. Also, with no progression or time for people to post and make themselves scummy, its gonna be harder to develop reads. at this point my reads are largely still based on the time immediately after RVS. Theres been very little content since then.

gibus was lolhammered. votato was scumreading him and then he flipped on his stance and "believed his claim" based on that reaction. I've quoted all of the posts where gibus reacted (completely NAI if not looking a little scummy).

This might be a tendency scum!votato has where he completely flips on his read on small things like a lolhammer or replace out.

[Zlair]

votato is town and ur my scumread if u EVEN DARE CONSIDER HIM

Firebringer, will you be flailing now or do you usually wait a little longer?

I didn't think that, but your abject terror here is noted.

[Zlair]

If someone were to replace in as "Glair" or "Slair" or (probably going a little too far) "Wlair," then we could lynch Zlair, but until we have a replacement so the supply of -airs stays above 3 I wouldn't recommend it.

I think this is fair. A good quota of -airs is needed for a healthy gamestate. Hoping to see "Lair" replace in and put us all in our place.

[Zlair]

Do you all see the votato similarities?

[Zlair]

iamusername's case isn't great if I'm being honest. He isn't considering the context like if there were counterwagons and whether they could be scum. It's a fairly simplistic "this person was on all the wagons - let's lynch them" kind of case.

[Zlair]

so did you just not read the part of the thread where i stated this was satire? or do you just not have actual scumreads to push?

Ah, you hid the explanation behind a spoiler. Sneaky donkey.

[Zlair]

so did you just not read the part of the thread where i stated this was satire? or do you just not have actual scumreads to push?

Ah, you hid the explanation behind a spoiler. Sneaky donkey.

i even clarified later. there are plenty of good reasons to scumread me (imho), but they arent the ones anyone has presented.

You believe you have good reasons to be scumread? What might those be?

[Zlair]

I like pushing a big wagon early in Day 3 to track reactions and counter wagons.

Clair, quick! Flash-wagon on Logic!

VOTE: Logicalicaltist

[Zlair]

Why did you vote Clair, Logic? If it's for self-preservation, why her over gobbles?

[Zlair]

VOTE: Logicalicaltist

You took too long to reply.

[Zlair]

Don't worry, -airs; you can leave this to me.

gobbles claim pls

What do you mean by scum will have a Clear, Clair?

[Zlair]

Oh, kill.

[Zlair]

gobbles + firebinger + username is my wild solve.

Firebringer is buddying votato in a weird way that scum doesn't do to each other.

You may flee like turkeys now.

[Zlair]

Stop trying to discredit the required claims as relaxed newbie posting.

A -lair already established this was serious business!

[Zlair]

Huzzah! I am a 2-shot Doctor and targeted Fredrick last night. Should I claim whether I have my other shot?

VOTE: gobbledygook

There is no way this can be true.

[Zlair]

What do you mean? I didn't get a friendly neighbour message for the record.

Some scenarios I can think of for why gobbles claimed doc:

-Scum no killed and hoped for no protectives to have a good looking claim for gobbles today.

-They targeted Fredrick but the kill failed. Kill taker wasn't blocked. Gobbles claims doctor hoping it'd look too ridiculous for scum.

-Scum performing the kill was roleblocked or jailkeeped last night. Gobbles claims doc to cover for person who was blocked.

Either way though, he's scum.

[Zlair]

What's your role sans modifiers?

Doctor lol

Oh, I thought this was his full claim, not his claim without modifiers. Still, I think two docs in the game is very unlikely.

[Zlair]

Lol. Zlair IS FL and he was scum.

VOTE: Zlair

I baited him with the Doctor fakeclaim.

This has been confirmed by the mod not to be the case.

Gobbles claims doc and then backtracks once two more protectives claim and goes "aha this was part of my plan all along"

Oh,

please

.

[Zlair]

Targets?

Targets?

Gobbles?

Lol. Zlair IS FL and he was scum.

VOTE: Zlair

I baited him with the Doctor fakeclaim.

What took gobbles 12 hours to return and admit he was fakeclaiming? If he actually were, he would've said it was the case right after he heard my claim. Instead, he disappreared and only retracted the claim after he also heard Clair claim Jailkeeper, and knew there was no way his claim would be believed over mine (Jailkeeper with 2-shot doc can happen, Jailkeeper and doc is too much).

[Zlair]

That is amazing. This would also be the greatest scum gambit ever if you're both scum, but I believe it.

Do I need to unvote gobbles?

[Zlair]

Do you still claim to have jailkeeped Fredrick last night, Clair?

[Zlair]

Targets?

Targets?

Gobbles?

Lol. Zlair IS FL and he was scum.

VOTE: Zlair

I baited him with the Doctor fakeclaim.

What took gobbles 12 hours to return and admit he was fakeclaiming? If he actually were, he would've said it was the case right after he heard my claim. Instead, he disappreared and only retracted the claim after he also heard Clair claim Jailkeeper, and knew there was no way his claim would be believed over mine (Jailkeeper with 2-shot doc can happen, Jailkeeper and doc is too much).

Could you address this, gobbles?

[Zlair]

UNVOTE: gobbles

And why did you still think I was FL after the mod confirmed I wasn't, gobbles?

[Zlair]

Should be Clair or gobbles today from my perspective. Possible it's both but I don't understand that play so probably not. I still really don't like the fake claim and backtracking from gobbles.

If Clair is town, then username would probably have to be scum since that sounds like too much power for the town.

[Zlair]

How common is having two protectives in normal games?

[Zlair]

Or uncommon, rather.

[Zlair]

Who would you want to lynch of gobbles/Clair, Fire?

[Zlair]

Flair is going to roll over in his grave right now but I honestly just plain don't want to believe that Gobbles replaces out as scum here.

Outraged town? Maybe. Pretend-outraged scum subbing out from under a lynch? Gross. I like Gobbles. I don't want to blacklist him. So I am tempted to reject this reality.

(This will be a textbook game in the future for the damaging effects of replacements on game integrity)

What if he's frustrated/not enjoying the game and so subbed out? That can come from either alignment.

[Zlair]

I vote we all take a break, wait for a substitution, and try to come back and have a little fun when tempers have cooled. I don't think we have anything to discuss that's really all that new from what we were discussing yesterday, and more apathy and flash posting is just going to drive the good turkeys out of the conversation.

[Zlair]

I have a doc shot left, so we could definitely no lynch today and I'll go on Blair. Will I be informed if I'm roleblocked/jailkeeped?

The objective here is to blink, and see who keeps driving up the day, like a game of hot potato.

[Zlair]

I'd be okay with lynching Fire; he doesn't have any Fire in him which is very unlike what I've seen from town!Fire in the past.

[Zlair]

I would much rather lynch the gobbles slot though. Pulling that doc gambit while you are the universally most scumread slot doesn't make any sense from a town perspective, as it only weakens your position further when you inform everyone you're lying, and makes it even more likely you'll lose the game given it's mylo. While as scum, the gambit makes sense if he's hoping for no big protective counterclaims.

[Zlair]

I don't agree with the logic for why the rep out should be regarded as anything but NAI. We don't know what caused gobbles to replace out.

[Zlair]

VOTE: Firebringer

The council of Lairs have determined this to be the optimal lynch. Please leave a 17 star review at your convenience.

Firebringer, you say I'm the optimal because you think votato is town and I'm never scum with him, but did you ever say

why

? I don't remember you giving a single reason for it.

[Zlair]

That's... not a good sign.

[Zlair]

Clair, if Firebringer flips town, we need to assume we're both town since that's the only way we can win now.

You may or may not target me. I may or may not target you. We may target anyone else. This game is still winnable if we out-WIFOM the scum and block a shot.

Use those skills you learnt at the Lair academy.

[Zlair]

I admire votato's ability to snipe that so quickly and even implicate me by making this look like a quickhammer . Believe it or not, I am not scum with him.

votato + gobbles + Clair/username probably. Sorry, Fire.

[Zlair]

[Zlair]

[Zlair]

Thank you for that video. 10/10

[Zlair]

also, pretty much every game i roll scum people say "you were obvscum" in postgame, yet i wasnt lynched.

I've noticed that. This is the 5th game I've played with votato where he was scum. He's won all 5.

[Zlair]

Where's my @, Firebringer??

[Zlair]

But yeah, this playerlist was very fun to play with when I came in. My original intention was to only sub in for the memes and mostly just slightly alter and recycle old Blair/Clair/Flair posts, but when I saw how winnable the position was for scum, I put in probably just about enough effort, but not TOO much effort so that I'd notice the breadcrumbs which might have lead to our downfall. Well calculated, Zlair.

[Zlair]

You did great, iamausername! Fun playing with you.

heh i figured you were hectic. glad you could be on my team for once.

This was funny, you know me too well, votato.

and which one of the "airs" is hectic?

[Zlair]

im still not sure about how i feel about the excessive use of alts on this site, or the excessive use of similarly named alts in this game.

Yeah, it's annoying when people play basically every game with a new alt. It really gets on my nerves.
I feel like the Lairs were overall good for this game though. A couple more Lairs in the setup and I think it'd be townsided.

[Zlair]

hectic who were you in animals? Dr Easy Bake?

I don't know whether to be insulted or honoured lol. Both I guess. The account for that game isn't outed yet so can't say.

[Zlair]

Thanks for modding as always, George"Bailey".

Thanks for designing the setup, North.

[Zlair]

I look forward to your return, Leafy. I respect the fact you play without ever going for toxicity in the thread, and it is pretty ridiculous how you seem to roll scum in every game nowadays. That's too many performances at once ya know. Maybe you need to alt more often to dodge the scum hammer.