Mini Normal 2147 | Door Mafia | Game Over!

[votato]

Definitely not the kill I was anticipating at all.

Thank you, wolves, for solving Looker for me.

Apologies Looker for pushing for you so hard, I’ll take a look at your reads again and consider them closely.

El aeh em eye ess tee

[votato]

Honestly, I’m kind of done with the “hasn’t read” nonsense. It’s kind of tilting me, to be honest. It’s actually making me care less about this game, and now Sakura left too, so my lack of caring about surface level pushes on me are really having me not want to play anymore.

I’m town.

you probably should stop skimming

I’ve read and analyzed this game more than you have,so you should stop being surface level

u gay son

Yeah same, me too

[votato]

VOTE: abr how are we ignoring how abr was the one who came out smelling like shit from yesterday's wagon, was pushing a slot until it quit, and then seamlessly began pushing elsewhere? I have to admit, i have not read most of day 1, but that seems fucking strange.

Can someone tl;dr day 1 for me? What are some key pages? I read maybe 10 pages leading up to the lynch so far

[votato]

Flair, votato is a good guy. I promise if you take a breath and don't take your anger out at other players out on votato, things will go a lot better. I really want this because right now you're maybe my biggest town read.

that's interesting. Thanks. I didn't realize you know me that well. Have i played with alts of yours, or is this just based on two games?

[votato]

Definitely not the kill I was anticipating at all.

Thank you, wolves, for solving Looker for me.

Apologies Looker for pushing for you so hard, I’ll take a look at your reads again and consider them closely.

El aeh em eye ess tee

Welcome to the game.

Spell this one out for me? LAMIST, really?

Yeah pretty lamist. But i think I'm gonna let clair pocket me for now, so i guess that makes you town too.

What are the odds that both firebringer and abr are scum?

[votato]

actually i guess ive never played with clair, only blair. Thats gonna get annoying.

[votato]

Flair/Blair/Clair are just voting together as a bloc without any scumhunting because they are friends outside the game. this is getting ridiculous.

REPLACE OUT

ok so i for sure thought that ABR was scum, but replacing out makes you 100% town.

gobbles must be scum

[votato]

i just voted my second highest townread. I feel so dirty.

you are a dirty dirty boy

[votato]

Flair/Blair/Clair are just voting together as a bloc without any scumhunting because they are friends outside the game. this is getting ridiculous.

REPLACE OUT

ok so i for sure thought that ABR was scum, but replacing out makes you 100% town.

gobbles must be scum

I'm not a fan of analyzing replacements, but you've taken us down that road by calling it a town tell, so... please explain?

hmm im surprised no one caught on. thats exactly what ABR did when FL replaced out. and @gobbles, yes i literally did pick your name at random.

Spoiler:

no the replacement didnt really change my reads

[votato]

i just voted my second highest townread. I feel so dirty.

you are a dirty dirty boy

u know whats dirtier. ur slot is the one i have highest townread on

[votato]

no

why?

[votato]

muahaha

"im not claiming" or w/e

[votato]

spicy take. i like it

[votato]

votato is my highest townread

im so sad rn ((((((((((

[votato]

Hmm is gobbles really scummy, or just completely inactive? I honestly forgot gobbles is even in this game

[votato]

Hmm, do Loyal friendly neighbors normally get informed that their visits resolve? I thought no

[votato]

@mod

would a friendly neighbor be informed about whether their visit resolved?

[votato]

hint: tracking the friendly neighbor would be clever.

[votato]

It's a good take because your inconsistency was noticed, and part of a broader trend of backseat lynches. But, feh, fine. Let's move on then.

Or this one.

you dont think scum would make a townie post and then immediately point to it and say "look how townie i am, lets you and i stop fighting and go lynch someone else"?

[votato]

NPOM didn't ragequit, although his last posts are amusing in hindsight:

Replacing out is usually a scum tell right?

Well, some players disassociate themselves from games they replace out of so they don't feel guilt or a sense of poor sportsmanship.

I could believe either Sakura or Flavor Leaf as scum ragequits.

hmmm my slot's ragequit didnt work, eh? i guess ill have to ragequit again until the slot gets townread

[votato]

votato is town and ur my scumread if u EVEN DARE CONSIDER HIM

i scumread votato. checkmate, atheists

[votato]

Flair/Blair/Clair are just voting together as a bloc without any scumhunting because they are friends outside the game. this is getting ridiculous.

REPLACE OUT

ok so i for sure thought that ABR was scum, but replacing out makes you 100% town.

gobbles must be scum

This was really scummy from end of day 2. You don't go from scumreading someone to 100% thinking they're town because they replaced out. I've also seen votato pull a very similar thing as scum before, with slightly different circumstances.

VOTE: votato

Don't try and hold me back, Lairs.

so did you just not read the part of the thread where i stated this was satire? or do you just not have actual scumreads to push?

[votato]

so did you just not read the part of the thread where i stated this was satire? or do you just not have actual scumreads to push?

Ah, you hid the explanation behind a spoiler. Sneaky donkey.

i even clarified later. there are plenty of good reasons to scumread me (imho), but they arent the ones anyone has presented.

[votato]

who did logical replace? i dont remember any posts from that slot... is the case simply lurking=scum?

[votato]

why was NPOM scum? didnt NPOM also lurk? i mean that might be somewhat AI, i dont think NPOM normally lurks that much

[votato]

VOTE: logical ok, that seems sheep-worthy. im glad its now day 3 and i still havent actually had to effort yet. ill effort more soon, promise.

[votato]

I don't want to poison the well here, but the longer he goes without posting the likelier he's scum who wants to avoid spew.

Correct course is to wait about a day and then lynch, scum will be forced to kill Frederick since he can clear someone tomorrow.

no he cant, since he won't know if his target resolves. not unless we have a voyeur or a tracker or a watcher who can coordinate with him. i guess if he just states his target before nightfall then other investigatives can work with that info.

[votato]

If they keep me alive and block me, wouldn't I, in effect, get a false positive that my target is scum? Meanwhile, if they track me instead, I would get a false positive that my target is town. This is a very unreliable check so I am useless if they do keep me alive.

Again, no. You don't know whether your action succeeds

[votato]

what's the deal with those naked votes? My phone wants to autocorrect votes to boys there... interesting, phone

[votato]

Mighnt scum be anywhere?

[votato]

So you're taking us back to rvs

[votato]

@campbell

[votato]

it would be nice to hear something from logical before hammering... i dunno, saying dont bother catching up we're just gonna kill you is kinda meh. dont we owe it to ourselves to let the slot catch up?

[votato]

ah yeah, because unless someone asked me a direct question id also just ignore a game that id subbed into.

what you did is fine but dont act so superior for asking explicitly what the rest of us had asked about implicitly.

[votato]

meh fine ill stop shading you for trying to pressure the slot im voting if you really insist.

[votato]

uh no quoting moderator communications is a thing yes?

[votato]

Votato has since taken over this slot and so far I am firmly votato-reading him.

have to say i disagree with this read

[votato]

I wish this were "Guess the alts" instead of "Find the mafia" because I have great reads for the former.

what is my main then?

[votato]

was it that obvious? also, you have a very cool imagination. props.

[votato]

I would totally kill votato if I wasn’t townreading the slot due to Sakura’s ragequit.

scumslip? you dont have kill powers do you?

[votato]

yes... wait i mean no?

[votato]

VOTE: logicalcaltist

[votato]

Wait. That wasn’t hammer.

oops

[votato]

VOTE: logical

[votato]

Spoiler:

I think the most strategical route here is to look for an alternative wagon like Gobble or one of the sibblings.

VOTE: Gobble

Did my slot Claim it or something?

Any comments before you flip?

Yes.
I’m not dying today as I just came into the game.
I don’t think FM encourages players to replace in to be mislynched immediately so scum wins.
That ain’t how we are playing this.

I feel like Gobble might be the most optimal lynch here.

This is where we stand:

Blair

stan1ey

Fredrick A Campbell

Albert B. Rampage

votato

Sakura Hana

Firebringer
Clair
iamausername
gobbledygook
Logicalicaltist

NoPowerOverMe

Flair

Zlair

Flavor Leaf

Looker

So Fred and Blair are Confirmed I take it?

If you can confirm them as Town Mechanically.
I’d estimate that Gobble and Zlair are evildoers.

Flair/Blair/Clair are just voting together as a bloc without any scumhunting because they are friends outside the game. this is getting ridiculous.

REPLACE OUT

ok so i for sure thought that ABR was scum, but replacing out makes you 100% town.

gobbles must be scum

Umm no? How Do you just randomly pick my name out of a hat?

You are more concerned of your own well being over why someone is declaring someone 100% Town for the wrong reason?

{Looker, FB, Clair}
Maybe

VOTE: Looker

VOTE: Flavor Leaf

Here we have someone’s PoE.
When someone has a list of who they think are scum you expect them to follow it right?
WRONG! Not Gobble. He’s a Turkey!

I would never kill Looker to be honest. Looker is too low impact of a player.

You Reads seem to change quite often.

If you thought FB is scum then you should have your vote on them but you don’t.


I think I’ve seen enough for today. I still stand by my word that this is the most optimal lynch.

i read over logical's iso, and....
wel....

he starts by admitting that hes gonna go after gobble not for being scum but because its strategic. he asks if his slot claimed that they had been visited by FN, and knowing that wasnt true, why would he think his slot had fake-claimed? continues pushing gobble without giving any reason other than "optimal lynch" then theres the 800 posts apart why did your reads change thing, and then rather than a "dont lynch me im town" we get a "you cant lynch me i just replaced in

Spoilered
-GB

[votato]

ah sorry, mod could you either delete that wall of quotes or at least spoiler it? sorry :/

[votato]

Intent to hammer: Logicalicaltist

Anyone not serious about this wagon may flee like Clair now.

which, FoS for fleeing a wagon and going to the wagon pushed by the person clair had been voting....

[votato]

Im a vee tee

[votato]

hmmm this is interesting. i wont get into the balance/mech talk since i dont think i have enough of a grasp to know what would work balance-wise. I'm inclined to believe zlair over gobbles, but i definitely could see both gobbles and zlair being scum and trying to CC each other and getting caught. what are the odds that its zlair/clair/gobbles? and which one of the "airs" is hectic?

[votato]

... This game is cursed.

iamausername should be able at least to back up your claim if you're announcing. Though, at this point, with MYLO I could actually believe that the three scum are going to openwolf.

username actually did say he was targeted by a neapolitan n1 in 2545

[votato]

isnt gobbles confirmed scum at this point?

[votato]

Both Votato and Firebringer claimed VT under the impression we would be massclaiming, though, so they aren't necessarily cleared because they could have been planning to out the Neapolitan in the mass claim and kill them the next night, so it's less helpful.

well it means theres no chance of FB and zlair scumteam right? FB!scum would have know there was a nea, but wouldnt have risked fake-claiming that early. i dont see that it clears me whether or not im paired with zlair. i feel like i wouldnt want to claim VT though since scum!me would want to prioritize killing the JK over the neapolitan.

[votato]

if clair is scum wouldnt that mean both blair and frederick are also scum running a gambit?

[votato]

wouldnt an ascetic modifier also imply town? seems broken to have a scum ascetic with no town killing power. and if fb!town=true, then why would FB lie and claim VT?

[votato]

wouldnt an ascetic modifier also imply town? seems broken to have a scum ascetic with no town killing power. and if fb!town=true, then why would FB lie and claim VT?

Hmm maybe it is fb and votato

explain how fb isnt at least confirmed town? he wouldnt lead a massclaim with a VT claim knowing there was a nea. well i guess hes only town in a world of iam!scum.

[votato]

How common is having two protectives in normal games?

It’s not uncommon. Typical balance dictates that you cannot have two protectives able to infinitely protect one another (thus forming an unkillable block). So if you have two doctors you make one macho or similarly gated.
JK + Doctor inherently is “balanced” because the Jk targeting the Doctor prevents that interaction.

so you've now done a complete 180 and believe zlair's claim? you seem to be scrambling and pointing fingers all over and trying to insist that you're cleared as town.

[votato]

are we allowed to lynch gobble yet?

[votato]

How common is having two protectives in normal games?

It’s not uncommon. Typical balance dictates that you cannot have two protectives able to infinitely protect one another (thus forming an unkillable block). So if you have two doctors you make one macho or similarly gated.
JK + Doctor inherently is “balanced” because the Jk targeting the Doctor prevents that interaction.

so you've now done a complete 180 and believe zlair's claim? you seem to be scrambling and pointing fingers all over and trying to insist that you're cleared as town.

Yes. I thought this was obvious when I unvoted Zlair and said I now think it is Clair.

yeah it was obvious. the question is why. your progressions seem pretty inorganic. you'd expect that if your fake-claim gambit caught scum that you'd be pushing the scum you'd caught.

[votato]

thanksgiving is my favorite of all holidays. ill start prepping the stuffing and preheating the oven

[votato]

the reactions made you think zlair was scum and then that somehow turned into a townread by magic?

[votato]

the reactions made you think zlair was scum and then that somehow turned into a townread by magic?

Do you like not read things in context or...?

what is this in reference to? you need to explain what you're thinking

[votato]

i feel like there are some broader details from the thread that im missing here that arent included in your post.

[votato]

the reactions made you think zlair was scum and then that somehow turned into a townread by magic?

Do you like not read things in context or...?

the reactions made you think zlair was scum and then that somehow turned into a townread by magic?

Do you like not read things in context or...?

what is this in reference to? you need to explain what you're thinking

i feel like there are some broader details from the thread that im missing here that arent included in your post.

the fact that you didnt pick up on this metajoke about context makes me think you're even more scum. will have to wait and see if other people realized that i was being sarcastic

[votato]

Votato you’re only being townread because of Sakura’s replace out.

i thought we established that that wasnt proof of town and if i want to prove that im town id have to replace out again

[votato]

plus if gobble is scum then doesnt that implicate iamausername?

[votato]

Votato you’re only being townread because of Sakura’s replace out.

also, this is a damn lie! im being townread because im so friggin cute.

[votato]

blair im willing to sheep you here. what will it be?

[votato]

so we are really just gonna continue to accept that everyone who replaces out is town? how about this: everyone who is town, just request a replacement. when the replacements get here they lynch everyone who is left in the game and we win. ezpz.

[votato]

so we have:

Spoiler:

Blair - neapolitan
stanley - VT
freddy - VT
ABR - backup
me - scum
firebringer - VT
clair - JK
username - odd night psychologist
gobble - VT?
logical - VT
Flair - VT
Zlair - 2-shot doc
looker - VT

and alive we have:

Spoiler:

Blair - neapolitan
freddy - VT
me - scum
firebringer - VT
clair - JK
username - odd night psychologist
gobble - VT?
Zlair - 2-shot doc

and the lynchpool is:

Spoiler:

me - scum
firebringer - VT
clair - JK
username - odd night psychologist
gobble - VT?
Zlair - 2-shot doc

of those i think clair gobbles and zlair are pretty much guaranteed scum, although maybe not all three of them together. firebringer is town. if we lynch in the three confirmed scum that gives us the best odds yes?

[votato]

It also likely means Firebringer and Votato are clear, because why would scum fake claim Vanilla Townie in a setup with a known Neapolitan?

how would scum us know their is a neo

This was under the assumption of scum!iamausername

Because iamausername has known about the Neapolitan since Night 1, so if they were scum then scum would have known this since Night 1.

me dumb.
how did iamusername know about neo night 1

the nea is announcing and targeted him

[votato]

stan1ey

(7): Albert B. Rampage

, Firebringer,

NoPowerOverMe,

Sakura Hana (votato),

Blair, Fredrick A Campbell,

Flavor Leaf (Zlair) --- Lynch!!!

Looker

(2): gobbledygook,

Flair

Albert B. Rampage

(1): Looker

Fredrick A Campbell

(2): Clair,

stan1ey

NoPowerOverMe

(1): iamausername

Not Voting

(0):

None.

The way the Day 1 speedlynch played out, I would expect about 2 scum on the final wagon. Interesting that there were no scum up for being lynched here: odds are high that a Day 1 reread will produce an obvious wagon that seemed to disappear for bad reasons. (I remember there were many of those.) Right now this preview makes me want to lynch votato and Zlair.

interesting that it doesnt make you want to lynch firebringer.

[votato]

can someone explain why it isnt just zlair, gobbles, and clair?

[votato]

take away the claims and it makes sense though. even with the claims its at least plausible. even if we say that gobbles is town for repping, then theres still two easy lynches to take us to f-3

[votato]

can someone explain why it isnt just zlair, gobbles, and clair?

u think gobbles claims doctor. then zlair his teammate comes in and CCs the claim. Then the third teammate decides "hey i will claim protection too".

your reaction to it tells me its a good idea.

[votato]

i think we should do that whenever we get on a scum team together.

except every game we're in together we both roll town. soon TM.

[votato]

youre like 75% mechanically cleared FMPOV, and im starting to think i can read you. plus i know you hate it and sometimes a little negging really turns up the fire in a relationship.

[votato]

do you think i should scumread you?

[votato]

i dunno, maybe your recent scumread just pocketed me

[votato]

ya basic

[votato]

Clair keeps saying she wouldn't kill Flair. But why wouldn't one of her scumbuddies insist on it? I animals upick that's what the scumteam did. We killed someone and then someone would say "id never make that kill"

[votato]

Clair keeps saying she wouldn't kill Flair. But why wouldn't one of her scumbuddies insist on it? I animals upick that's what the scumteam did. We killed someone and then someone would say "id never make that kill"

Which scummates do you think would have overruled me on the kill?

zlair or gobbles

[votato]

yep, i think the triple protective gambit no kill makes sense.

[votato]

Hmm, i dunno. I'm still not sure about setup spec and balance. It does sound a bit weak though?

[votato]

Normal games means you can only inherit stuff from your alignment

[votato]

so that leaves me, firebringer, zlair, gobbles.

i cant really see fire being scum here, although his read progression on me is very odd. I still buy that zlair and gobbles are scum together even if clair is clear.

[votato]

or the simpler solution here: Neapolitan + Backup + 2-shot Doctor + Odd-Night Psychologist is the set-up, scum have 3 goons, and no-killed. that makes more sense for my PoE. would those power roles make sense with 3 goons?

[votato]

uhm... what are the odds that blair and iamauser are scumbuddies?

[votato]

Low, right?

[votato]

well, out of the four, i'd personally prefer that i not be lynched. its only a slight preference though. i still want to believe that FB is town, and gobbles is still the scummiest to me.

[votato]

yeah i think we already dismissed the possibility.

[votato]

The weakness is if scum knew there was a Neapolitan but didn't pick up on your crumbs, or only picked up on them by Night 3.

I did say "unless scum lack basic reading comprehension."

what does that mean?

[votato]

Are you excluding yourself?

That's fine if you are, from your perspective at least, but please sell me on excluding you similar to how I had to sell you on excluding IAAU.

that was the whole point of all this setup spec... isnt clair mechanically cleared?

[votato]

so if IAAU is scum, the scumteam is either brilliant or complete fools. i think i'd buy blair/IAAU/firebringer as a brilliant scumteam, but i dont know if it fits. other than me i dont know who would belong on an incompetent scumteam.

[votato]

blair/IAAU/firebringer

Please explain how I can be scum without Frederick?

oh i suppose frederick could be on the brilliant scumteam. so you IAAU and freddy. i still think thats pretty unlikely.

[votato]

sheep me on gobbles then?

also, i dont see whats so funny about my horn. i was born with it....

[votato]

isnt the safe play to have zlair doc clair JK blair? or maybe clair JKs IAAU

[votato]

there i just flailed.

I am now proven town lol

no u have to sub out to proof tuwnie

[votato]

1. gobble
2. zlair






3. firebringer

[votato]

how dare u not make me a top

bitch i know ur a bottom.

[votato]

ok i think we distanced enough. lets go back to buddying.

[votato]

okay, i luv u buddy.

<3

[votato]

why zlair over gobbles?

[votato]

ok i think we distanced enough. lets go back to buddying.

Thank you so much, that makes everything so much easier

i dont knead your sass.

[votato]

the only problem is that theres actually no one defending gobbles.

[votato]

i guess maybe clair is deflecting away from gobbles and trying to pin it on you, fire.

[votato]

has zlair even stated an opinion on gobbles?

[votato]

like blair/clair/whoever said, in mylo youd expect scum to stick up for their buddies at least a bit, some resistance to the lynch or deflection from it. which there hasnt been lately, but at the same time thats where the wagon was going and clair managed to demolish the wagon and it hasnt gained steam since.

[votato]

at this point we are talking ourselves in circles i think.

[votato]

think with ur heart instead of ur mind.

my heart says ily bb

[votato]

im staking my very prestigious reputation on u being town.

your circle might be bigger than mine, but my reputation has already surpassed yours. did you see how well i did on the SUPP?

[votato]

i got 2nd!!!! what place was 134? was it even top 10?

[votato]

i got 2nd!!!! what place was 134? was it even top 10?

it was bottom 10. I got more zeros than u did tho

yeah but there were twice as many votes!!

[votato]

Votato has been seriously pushed in MYLO by almost no one.

i know! im so sad

[votato]

waut could blair be scum? if scum has a rolecop or neapolitan, boom.

[votato]

when do i get my own lynch in this order?

[votato]

VOTE: zlair
im sad that you think i suffered. NO ONE IS EVEN TRYING TO LYNCH ME!!! how am i suppsed to feel when no one cares about me>???

[votato]

doesnt that mean you got your wagon and now its sum1 else's turn?

[votato]

OTE ZLA
TE ZLAI
E ZL
VO LAIR

[votato]

i think people who select fonts intentionally have no substance to their words

[votato]

this is the true test of votato being town.
if he is scum he will join the wagon. He only needs to wait for his teammates to vote and then he can hammer me.

i could never hammer u

[votato]

this is the true test of votato being town.
if he is scum he will join the wagon. He only needs to wait for his teammates to vote and then he can hammer me.

i could never hammer u

i don't believe u, but i appreciate this post anyways.

u saing ud hammr me?

[votato]

enuf of the large font spam pls

[votato]

BUT WHO WILL MAKE THE DOORS

[votato]

if you get ^ joke ur cool

[votato]

doors r alive?

[votato]

What will u do tomorrow, if it turned out all doors just vanished. How will u go from room to room. Without them doors make life impossible to navigate.
How will u know when to not bother a roommate because he is getting busy? How will u keep ur groceries preserved? How will u take a dump with some privacy?

That is the world in which will occur if Zlair isn't lynched.
Zlair is against doors. A vote for zlair is a vote to keep doors alive.

We shall use curtains then.

no you're a towel

[votato]

im here if u need to test to see if my hammer works.

[votato]

ok, mr bottom

[votato]

I could see scum Blair leaving iaau alive for the towncred. Claiming nea where all your targets turned up dead is a bit awkward

[votato]

The only reason we think scum have a role blocker is that you claimed to have been blocked, n'est pas?

[votato]

So you are guaranteed to survive because no one will suspect you

[votato]

Now you're making sense

[votato]

firebringer is always town. Mechanically it doesn't make sense in any scenarios for fb to be scum. He and i can read each other. He is town

[votato]

Its unlikely. Him being scum doesn't fit any of my solves

[votato]

I think the constitution says you aren't allowed to be town leader Blair, since you were born in kenya

[votato]

How do you explain this photo of a family at immigration?

[votato]

I woke up before that. But you best keep your hands off my firewolf

[votato]

Yeah, I definitely feel like Flavor Leaf got off easy.

What makes me not want to go that route (yet) is how badly Firebringer and Votato want it all of a sudden.

all of a sudden? ive been pretty consistently pushing zlair and gobbles since day start.

[votato]

me frantically saying "this isnt my preferred lynch but ill compromise"?

[votato]

its a 4-man scumteam here fire, dw about it.

[votato]

VOTE: firebringer

[votato]

the softclaim struck me as odd posts, but i didnt put 2 and 2 together. im bad, im sorry! also, pretty much every game i roll scum people say "you were obvscum" in postgame, yet i wasnt lynched.

gg all.

oh and stanley cant be midway, they were both in large normal 227.

yeah our incompetence wound up working out pretty well for us. but yeah because we had a rolestopper this action pattern was unstoppable unless gobbles really was a doc or something. and in that case best to have me rolestopped to prevent the nea from targeting me.

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i saw "that is a vanilla take in a sea of spicy takes" and though... weird meme, not a great shitpost, but whatever, and moved on.

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also, pretty much every game i roll scum people say "you were obvscum" in postgame, yet i wasnt lynched.

I've noticed that. This is the 5th game I've played with votato where he was scum. He's won all 5.

heh i figured you were hectic. glad you could be on my team for once.

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@Blair I enjoyed all ur posts. Arguing with u was kind of a pain in the butt and not worth it. Prefer to meme or shit post with u instead.
@Clair I enjoyed u quite a bit too
@Flair think we got on the wrong foot but u seem like alright guy, probably should just take mafia less seriously.

@votato lets be scum next time.

im down for sure. what mods will rig the rng for us so we can both roll scum?

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yeah sub out culture has gotten really overboard on this site lately. the left wing media over here subbing out everybody

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yeah it was fun playing scum with you two, not that we coordinated much. it was a good playerlist, although im still not sure about how i feel about the excessive use of alts on this site, or the excessive use of similarly named alts in this game.

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im still not sure about how i feel about the excessive use of alts on this site, or the excessive use of similarly named alts in this game.

Yeah, it's annoying when people play basically every game with a new alt. It really gets on my nerves.
I feel like the Lairs were overall good for this game though. A couple more Lairs in the setup and I think it'd be townsided.

this setup was clearly townsided, but my amazing scumplay carried us through anyway.

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hectic who were you in animals? Dr Easy Bake?

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the other option is miss lynch i think, unless you were in a hydra.

NSG i thought the announcing nea was fun. the announcing modifier does add an interesting twist. i think maybe had scum played better we could have won the game purely on claims. then again, thats probably true in just about any setup.

i thought the setup was fun, i thought georgebailey did a good job of georgebaileying, and i thought the playerlist was fun.

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also, pretty much every game i roll scum people say "you were obvscum" in postgame, yet i wasnt lynched.

I've noticed that. This is the 5th game I've played with votato where he was scum. He's won all 5.

heh i figured you were hectic. glad you could be on my team for once.

But you were obvscum
Sakura having a meta of replacing out as town took a lot of heat off you

i mean maybe, but people suspected me the last day yet there was still no serious momentum towards a lynch. ill believe that i was obvscum when i get lynched for being obvscum.

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I mean the replace outs were shitty but it was mostly townies. Cant speak for sakura but fl replaced out of a few games recently

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didnt some of the townies who repped also break the rules? i mean yeah im not here to defend the replacements. but i think we shouldnt be tooo toooooo toooooooooooo hasty to assume the motivations for replacing out.

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I replaced out because I didn't trust the game was legit as far as alts. Only reason. If I had continued to play I'm sure scum still would have won, they played well, and used the confusion to their advantage. I don't like to replace out and don't normally so I will count this as a loss on my record.

They were all town

They voted as a block

They lynched me instead of joining my coalition against scum.

Iamuser/sakura/FL were all in my cross hairs but the airs didn't want to help me.

You've got a degree in Revisionist History. And not a single ounce of self-accountability.

If you weren't so selfish perhaps it would've been easier to see you for what you were.

what is he? a canadian? that is pretty unforgivable tbh

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When one believes that they make no mistakes, they fail to notice the mistakes they make. Failing to notice these mistakes, they are bound to do it again, never learning from these mistakes which, as far as they are concerned, never happened.

At the end of every game, it may be helpful to the other players to point out the flaws in the player's play. When others point out flaws in your play, it is important to critically examine them and figure out how to fix the flaw, if it is a flaw.

what were the flaws in my play? i bet you cant find any!

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i mean your fake-claim gambit was good, too bad it didnt work because the scum team was awful. i dont remember ever thinking "what a moron, this guy will make an easy mark" or anything, but i do think you were a bit lurky and town would have benefited from hearing your thoughts more.

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i mean if you chose to read the dead thread youd see that it wasnt my choice looker. n1 FL did the actions. i didnt see a point in killing you, and i think youd have been much more useful to us left alive, but FL gave us that NK as a parting gift