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Sakura Hana · Post Post #9 (isolation #0) » Sun Jun 07, 2020 4:11 pm

VOTE: Firebringer

Testion React.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #17 (isolation #1) » Sun Jun 07, 2020 4:16 pm

In post 10, Firebringer wrote:What is ur avatar holding

I'm playing with my hair.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #19 (isolation #2) » Sun Jun 07, 2020 4:17 pm

In post 11, Flavor Leaf wrote:my heart

I feel like it's been a while since we played together.
SPOILERS: Flirting with me isnt gonna work.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #22 (isolation #3) » Sun Jun 07, 2020 4:19 pm

In post 20, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Can I flirt with you?

You're free to try.
That doesnt mean it's gonna help you.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #24 (isolation #4) » Sun Jun 07, 2020 4:20 pm

In post 23, NoPowerOverMe wrote:It doesn't mean it's not!

Dammit!
You found a loophole in my post!

I'll have to rethink this strategy.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #35 (isolation #5) » Sun Jun 07, 2020 4:26 pm

That I did, what I didnt say is that people are unallowed to flirt with me, much less FL, but i did say it's not gonna work.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #38 (isolation #6) » Sun Jun 07, 2020 4:26 pm

In post 32, Firebringer wrote:
In post 25, Flair wrote:If you say “reaction test” when you attempt to test one’s reaction, is it actually a reaction test?

Feels like you’re all just going through the motions.

Interesting nonetheless.
I am getting pretty good reactions from firebringer that is helping me sort him tbh.

What's your read on firebringer so far after those reactions.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #48 (isolation #7) » Sun Jun 07, 2020 4:30 pm

In post 42, NoPowerOverMe wrote:
In post 39, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Okay, so Sakura is just craving attention now.
Fire and Sakura could easily play both sides, from my experience playing in the last game.

Is that a compliment?

Sakura Hana · Post Post #55 (isolation #8) » Sun Jun 07, 2020 4:34 pm

In post 50, NoPowerOverMe wrote:
In post 48, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 42, NoPowerOverMe wrote:
In post 39, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Okay, so Sakura is just craving attention now.
Fire and Sakura could easily play both sides, from my experience playing in the last game.
Is that a compliment?
Just an observation.

You should be more careful with what you say, remember you have the right to remain silent.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #60 (isolation #9) » Sun Jun 07, 2020 4:35 pm

In post 59, NoPowerOverMe wrote:
In post 55, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 50, NoPowerOverMe wrote:
In post 48, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 42, NoPowerOverMe wrote:
In post 39, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Okay, so Sakura is just craving attention now.
Fire and Sakura could easily play both sides, from my experience playing in the last game.
Is that a compliment?
Just an observation.
You should be more careful with what you say, remember you have the right to remain silent.
What would the fun of that be?

I like you.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #74 (isolation #10) » Sun Jun 07, 2020 4:42 pm

But I like long hair.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #89 (isolation #11) » Sun Jun 07, 2020 4:47 pm

In post 80, NoPowerOverMe wrote:I think everyone needs to declare themselvs as part of the Flavor Leaf party or the Sakura party.

Can i be part of both?

Sakura Hana · Post Post #97 (isolation #12) » Sun Jun 07, 2020 4:51 pm

My hair is long but far from unkempt.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #105 (isolation #13) » Sun Jun 07, 2020 4:53 pm

You insulted my hair and that shall NOT be tolerated.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #114 (isolation #14) » Sun Jun 07, 2020 4:57 pm

In post 112, Firebringer wrote:I claim Mason

Are you Saudade now?

Sakura Hana · Post Post #119 (isolation #15) » Sun Jun 07, 2020 4:58 pm

In post 116, Firebringer wrote:
In post 114, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 112, Firebringer wrote:I claim Mason
Are you Saudade now?
Listen, mastina was fake claiming mason before saudade was born.

But what if im a third party whose sole objective is to see all the Masons dead!
EVER THOUGHT ABOUT THAT?!

Sakura Hana · Post Post #123 (isolation #16) » Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:01 pm

Also, I think RVSing FB is getting old, I'm probably not gonna do that next game.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #129 (isolation #17) » Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:04 pm

Also im curious as to why ABR is voting Blair, I'm having some gut vibes over there, but I have a hard time differentiating them from Flair.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #140 (isolation #18) » Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:10 pm

In post 138, Flavor Leaf wrote:If 3 scum in a game, that's always the case of @ Least 1 of 4 are town.

That's always going to be the case in any list of 4 people you post.

Huh, that's a good point.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #141 (isolation #19) » Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:10 pm

But if it's 3 scum, then what's the point of gobble being informed that in a group of 4 there's at least 1 town.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #144 (isolation #20) » Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:12 pm

The implications could be either gobble is lying, gobble is scum AND lying, mod is trolling with the roles or we got 4 scum.
I see now.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #147 (isolation #21) » Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:14 pm

I dont think there's any useful reason for gobble to say such a thing if he was scum this early in the game.
So im inclined to think he's probably town whether he's lying or not about the role, and if he's not then this game suddenly got scarier...

Sakura Hana · Post Post #152 (isolation #22) » Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:16 pm

I mean this is literally not the type of revelation i expected to find in a normal game.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #151 (isolation #23) » Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:16 pm

I mean this is literally not the type of revelation i expected to find in a normal game.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #155 (isolation #24) » Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:18 pm

In post 153, gobbledygook wrote:I think that this is the design of the game and that there are other informed townies whose lists may overlap

And how does that help us?
As FL said before, you can pick any list of 4 players at random and there will always be at least 1 townie if there's 3 scum.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #159 (isolation #25) » Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:20 pm

In post 157, gobbledygook wrote:
In post 155, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 153, gobbledygook wrote:I think that this is the design of the game and that there are other informed townies whose lists may overlap
And how does that help us?
As FL said before, you can pick any list of 4 players at random and there will always be at least 1 townie if there's 3 scum.
If any of my four are on multiple others’ lists of 4 it increases the chance that those overlapping names are the “at least 1” townie

I'm unsure about it, but ok. I'm not good at doing such mechanical cross references.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #169 (isolation #26) » Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:24 pm

In post 166, Flavor Leaf wrote:I mean, Sakura's obv scum

Where does this even come from.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #171 (isolation #27) » Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:25 pm

In post 168, Flavor Leaf wrote:I actually wrote this out before Blair's vote.

Are you a slow writer or something? that definitely didnt take you 2 minutes to type.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #173 (isolation #28) » Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:26 pm

In post 166, Flavor Leaf wrote:Flirting with town her would have worked

And do I have to bring evidence of you admitting that scum you flirting with town me didnt work.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #179 (isolation #29) » Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:29 pm

Well you said im one of the few people that can read you and that you trying to pocket me with flirting didnt work.
So how does me telling you that it's not going to work make me scum exactly?

Sakura Hana · Post Post #184 (isolation #30) » Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:31 pm

In post 181, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 179, Sakura Hana wrote:Well you said im one of the few people that can read you and that you trying to pocket me with flirting didnt work.
So how does me telling you that it's not going to work make me scum exactly?
Because I didn't mean it truly, I just like seeing you react. It's humorous.

=.=

It's. Not. Funny

Sakura Hana · Post Post #187 (isolation #31) » Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:32 pm

I'm just gonna OMGUS Blair instead.
VOTE: Blair

FL goes to the Mean bully section.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #191 (isolation #32) » Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:34 pm

I dont disagree that being mean to me is one of the best reaction tests you can do with me, but that doesnt mean i like it, there's several other ways to read me.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #199 (isolation #33) » Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:38 pm

In post 196, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 191, Sakura Hana wrote:I dont disagree that being mean to me is one of the best reaction tests you can do with me, but that doesnt mean i like it, there's several other ways to read me.
Depends, do you think I'm truly being mean to you? All this hatred in my heart that I have for you is really coming out, huh?

I dunno, when I get bullied my mind goes mush.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #201 (isolation #34) » Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:38 pm

Like people may have an easier time reading me, but it makes it harder for me to read them.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #204 (isolation #35) » Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:42 pm

In post 202, Firebringer wrote:I think flavor did a decent job bumping my shallow tr of sakura up to medium to large townread.

Well gee thanks.
That doesnt help ME tho.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #231 (isolation #36) » Sun Jun 07, 2020 6:09 pm

In post 225, Flavor Leaf wrote:To be fair, I make real scum real annoyed.

In post 229, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 226, Firebringer wrote:u also make town annoyed to buddy lol
That is the risk I am willing to take.

If this is true then how were you planning to read me based on your reaction test in the first place?

Sakura Hana · Post Post #233 (isolation #37) » Sun Jun 07, 2020 6:13 pm

In post 232, Blair wrote:Sakura, please do not take this the wrong way, I mean no offense: If you don’t mind, how old are you, and is English your first language?

I turn 35 in about a week, and no, english isnt my first language.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #272 (isolation #38) » Mon Jun 08, 2020 2:46 am

If they are the same person wouldnt the list mod have caught that?

Sakura Hana · Post Post #279 (isolation #39) » Mon Jun 08, 2020 2:54 am

In post 274, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Not if they registered from different CPUs.

At any rate I doubt they are the same person, they could've easily faked interactions between themselves earlier if that was the case instead of posting things like:

In post 117, Flair wrote:I’m just waiting for Clair to post now.

In post 121, Flair wrote:Hopefully Clair’s posts are better than Blair’s.

Putting them in notice before they’ve even entered the thread.

But yes, if someone's playing the game from multiple accounts that would be considered cheating, more so if one of them rolled scum as then there would be someone who knows what the scum team is. I doubt anyone would risk this, and if they did, well the listmods can easily check that.
They are very strict on that regard.

So I am going to assume that they are different people with alt accounts.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #281 (isolation #40) » Mon Jun 08, 2020 2:55 am

In post 265, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Claire voted flair, and if they are the same acct we should do the opposite of what they want.

Now can you explain to me why you think this?

Sakura Hana · Post Post #284 (isolation #41) » Mon Jun 08, 2020 2:57 am

In post 280, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Alts joining the same game is against rules.

If that's what you think it's happening then report it to a list mod or something, they can easily verify that, worst case scenario they arent the same person and nothing happens.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #399 (isolation #42) » Mon Jun 08, 2020 12:30 pm

PSA: That now that Satisfactory is on Steam, my activity may be in bursts since im gonna be playing the hell out of that.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #450 (isolation #43) » Mon Jun 08, 2020 4:27 pm

In post 438, Firebringer wrote:Where is Sakura.

Does someone have a sakura signal to get her in here to tell me where to vote.

If you had looked at my discord you'd have noticed I was playing Satisfactory.
I'm here now.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #452 (isolation #44) » Mon Jun 08, 2020 4:32 pm

In post 451, Fredrick A Campbell wrote:What are your scumreads, Sakura Hana?

I'm currently reading ISOs.
I dont think my vote on Blair is being useful anymore, nor I think she's scum atm.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #454 (isolation #45) » Mon Jun 08, 2020 4:39 pm

In post 453, Fredrick A Campbell wrote:VOTE: Looker

L-4

I might be going there, their ISO is full of nothing and some votes where I cant tell where they came from.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #456 (isolation #46) » Mon Jun 08, 2020 4:42 pm

This?:

In post 449, Fredrick A Campbell wrote:Here are where my scumreads are at present.

Albert B. Rampage
stan1ey

I was going to challenge NoPowerOverMe's points about Looker, but those points are indeed valid. However, I do not have a scumread on Looker because in the very least he has been posting and I don't think his behaviour up to this point is alignment indicative.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #457 (isolation #47) » Mon Jun 08, 2020 4:42 pm

Speaking of, why did you vote Looker then

Sakura Hana · Post Post #458 (isolation #48) » Mon Jun 08, 2020 4:43 pm

IAU is probably town.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #461 (isolation #49) » Mon Jun 08, 2020 4:44 pm

Firebringer was too quick to townread me, it's making me nervous of buddying.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #464 (isolation #50) » Mon Jun 08, 2020 4:46 pm

Why do you think stanley's single post is scum indicative but Looker's walls that contain literally nothing but fluff and some votes are NAI?

Sakura Hana · Post Post #466 (isolation #51) » Mon Jun 08, 2020 4:54 pm

3:06:16 am

In post 246, stan1ey wrote:Bruh page 10 already VOTE: flair

4:19:29 am

In post 248, Fredrick A Campbell wrote:stanley, have you finished reading the thread? Any thoughts?

And stanley hasnt posted in thread since...

Sakura Hana · Post Post #467 (isolation #52) » Mon Jun 08, 2020 4:57 pm

VOTE: Fred

Sakura Hana · Post Post #469 (isolation #53) » Mon Jun 08, 2020 5:03 pm

My point is clear enough.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #472 (isolation #54) » Mon Jun 08, 2020 5:18 pm

Ok sure, my point is that you asked your question 1 hour 14 minutes after stanley's post and stanley hasn't posted since. It's probable he hasnt even read your question and I don't think your scumread of Stanley is logical nor looks like scumhunting.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #586 (isolation #55) » Tue Jun 09, 2020 5:41 am

I think Flair is town.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #588 (isolation #56) » Tue Jun 09, 2020 5:43 am

In post 587, Firebringer wrote:hi sakura how r u

Hello FB, im a bit bored, how about you.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #758 (isolation #57) » Tue Jun 09, 2020 10:26 am

Why does it feel like all the fun stuff always happens while i'm away.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #763 (isolation #58) » Tue Jun 09, 2020 10:28 am

In post 757, iamausername wrote:
In post 753, iamausername wrote: strongest scumread is NPOM - by contrast, nothing he is doing feels like a sincere effort to find scum, he's just sheeping onto whatever wagons the stronger personalities are pushing at any given time. i don't believe he cares who gets lynched here.
oh and also he keeps randomly bringing up this other game he was in with some of the players here where he was town. feels like he's trying to jedi mind trick them into believing he's town here too.

I feel like our past game, he kept sheeping Firebringer, so that's nothing new.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #767 (isolation #59) » Tue Jun 09, 2020 10:31 am

Oh hey, Looker said something sensible.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #770 (isolation #60) » Tue Jun 09, 2020 10:32 am

Over the course of playing I've encountered several players that dont like to explain reads specially early on, ABR wont be the first nor the last one.
I can also see what ABR is doing and why he's doing it.
ABR is most likely town than not.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #773 (isolation #61) » Tue Jun 09, 2020 10:36 am

In post 772, NoPowerOverMe wrote:
In post 770, Sakura Hana wrote:Over the course of playing I've encountered several players that dont like to explain reads specially early on, ABR wont be the first nor the last one.
I can also see what ABR is doing and why he's doing it.
ABR is most likely town than not.
What's the pro town purpose of not explaining your reads?

Some people are lazy, others dont want to, others feel like explaining them might give scum a chance of not being lynched.
Although in my case I just suck at explaining things, but I try when I can.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #777 (isolation #62) » Tue Jun 09, 2020 10:38 am

Also I respecfully disagree that i am "not playing the game". I may not be here all the time, but I'm trying to generate reads and I type it out when I do so.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #779 (isolation #63) » Tue Jun 09, 2020 10:39 am

In post 775, NoPowerOverMe wrote:None of those things seem pro town to me.

Maybe when you stop looking at "pro town" things like they come from a book that every player is supposed to rule themselves by.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #780 (isolation #64) » Tue Jun 09, 2020 10:41 am

It makes it harder to read you because I dont know if you're using Level 0 reasoning because that's you or because you're mislynch hunting.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #782 (isolation #65) » Tue Jun 09, 2020 10:44 am

I feel like I have a higher chance to hit scum if I just sheep ABR right now.
VOTE: Clair

Sakura Hana · Post Post #783 (isolation #66) » Tue Jun 09, 2020 10:44 am

And yes i know right now ABR is sheeping FB, and ABR's read is Blair.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #785 (isolation #67) » Tue Jun 09, 2020 10:46 am

In post 784, NoPowerOverMe wrote:
In post 780, Sakura Hana wrote:It makes it harder to read you because I dont know if you're using Level 0 reasoning because that's you or because you're mislynch hunting.
I find that there's a lot of self-fufilling prophecy reasoning in day 1 that goes on, based on things like personality conflicts, supposed skill level and activity level. I try to step back from these things and look at players at a more objective place, which may look like "Level 0 reasoning". What specifically do you think is Level 0 reasoning, by the way?

When you forget to include that something may be someone's playstyle in your reads.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #789 (isolation #68) » Tue Jun 09, 2020 10:50 am

In post 786, NoPowerOverMe wrote:I don't forget that. In 2143 I thought you might have been scum due to your lack of scumhunting but after talking to you, I changed my mind.

So what do you think ABR's constant refusal to explain even if people have repeatedly mentioned that way he wont get people to follow him, or even causing them to scumread him, means?

Sakura Hana · Post Post #795 (isolation #69) » Tue Jun 09, 2020 10:54 am

In post 792, NoPowerOverMe wrote:
In post 789, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 786, NoPowerOverMe wrote:I don't forget that. In 2143 I thought you might have been scum due to your lack of scumhunting but after talking to you, I changed my mind.
So what do you think ABR's constant refusal to explain even if people have repeatedly mentioned that way he wont get people to follow him, or even causing them to scumread him, means?
a) he's scum using WIFOM reverse psychology b) he's confident town c) he's a power role and would rather have actual night results than reads or d) he's town that wants to be night killed

When was the last time you saw scum use WIFOM reverse psychology.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #797 (isolation #70) » Tue Jun 09, 2020 10:57 am

And even in said post you mentioned 3 pro-town reasons why that attitude is town and 1 reason why that attitude could be scum.

So guess you just answered your own question

Sakura Hana · Post Post #802 (isolation #71) » Tue Jun 09, 2020 11:05 am

In post 800, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Sheep vote. Sakura seems pretty confident and I know she's a smart cookie.

Considering im sheeping ABR and ABR is sheeping FB, this is far from the truth. I am however townreading ABR and I've read one of his scumhunting guides in the past, so I know that, if im right about that read, he has a better chance of hitting scum than me, whereas I'm still lost as to who could be scum.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #808 (isolation #72) » Tue Jun 09, 2020 11:26 am

In post 805, Flair wrote:
In post 757, iamausername wrote:
In post 753, iamausername wrote: strongest scumread is NPOM - by contrast, nothing he is doing feels like a sincere effort to find scum, he's just sheeping onto whatever wagons the stronger personalities are pushing at any given time. i don't believe he cares who gets lynched here.
oh and also he keeps randomly bringing up this other game he was in with some of the players here where he was town. feels like he's trying to jedi mind trick them into believing he's town here too.
That's a decent read. I agree his suggestion that everyone there that was a villager might be here as well feels lazy.

Again, perhaps not wolf-motivated, but certainly lazy.

lol now i keep imagining NPOM with a cloak and raising his hand going "I am town, you will believe I am town" xD

Sakura Hana · Post Post #821 (isolation #73) » Tue Jun 09, 2020 11:51 am

I feel like my TR of Flair may have been premature.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #823 (isolation #74) » Tue Jun 09, 2020 11:54 am

Considering how they've been complaining about not being able to interact with many people IRT, and how concerned they >seem< to be with my alignment, I made a fluff post in between 2 of their posts and they made no effort to engage with me.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #827 (isolation #75) » Tue Jun 09, 2020 11:58 am

In post 825, Blair wrote:I kind of wish you had sat on it a little longer, though.

Oh, sorry, I have a tendency to speak what's on my mind.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #828 (isolation #76) » Tue Jun 09, 2020 12:00 pm

In post 826, Blair wrote:(Because it's barely been 30 minutes, so he may come in now and claim he was working on a post for you)

In that case, why not engage me right at that moment?, instead of leaving to take 30 minutes to make a post towards me, and then hope i'm not gone by the time they post it?

And i dont think anything they are posting seems to be something that would take 30 minutes, much less if they are an IRT interaction type of player.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #834 (isolation #77) » Tue Jun 09, 2020 12:22 pm

In post 833, Flair wrote:
In post 823, Sakura Hana wrote:Considering how they've been complaining about not being able to interact with many people IRT, and how concerned they >seem< to be with my alignment, I made a fluff post in between 2 of their posts and they made no effort to engage with me.
I've been juggling a few other things. Don't worry, I haven't forgotten about you.

But I've taken into consideration the reads of several other players who have continued to suggest you're a villager, so that all counts for something.

I would have hoped you'd at least have some questions for me to help you sort me yourself.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #836 (isolation #78) » Tue Jun 09, 2020 12:23 pm

It just felt reallly weird that you just went right by when I was around to engage and im not sure what to make of it. So I made a note of that.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #858 (isolation #79) » Tue Jun 09, 2020 12:56 pm

In post 845, Flavor Leaf wrote:Scum are trying to disorientate me, I can tell. I don't have any strong reads atm.

So what was the purpose of you reaction testing me

Sakura Hana · Post Post #860 (isolation #80) » Tue Jun 09, 2020 12:59 pm

In post 859, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 858, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 845, Flavor Leaf wrote:Scum are trying to disorientate me, I can tell. I don't have any strong reads atm.
So what was the purpose of you reaction testing me
to pocket you

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Sakura Hana · Post Post #862 (isolation #81) » Tue Jun 09, 2020 1:00 pm

In post 861, Flavor Leaf wrote:that hurts my feelings, Sakura.

It hurts MY feelings that you make me mad to try to sort me and end up not having a strong read on me.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #866 (isolation #82) » Tue Jun 09, 2020 1:02 pm

Clearly the solution is to not flip flip on me.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #867 (isolation #83) » Tue Jun 09, 2020 1:02 pm

*flip flop.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #869 (isolation #84) » Tue Jun 09, 2020 1:05 pm

I seriously have a hard time believing you reaction test me, and the one that gets a read is FB while you come out with nothing.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #871 (isolation #85) » Tue Jun 09, 2020 1:08 pm

In post 870, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 869, Sakura Hana wrote:I seriously have a hard time believing you reaction test me, and the one that gets a read is FB while you come out with nothing.
who said I came out with nothing?

I have reads. they're just not strong. I probably have more evolved reads at the time than the majority of this game, but it's not as simple black and white as town read or scum read.

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.
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Ok, whatever.
VOTE: Clair

Sakura Hana · Post Post #876 (isolation #86) » Tue Jun 09, 2020 1:11 pm

If anything FL not making any sense is more indicative of town him.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #1266 (isolation #87) » Wed Jun 10, 2020 4:52 pm

No you didnt

Sakura Hana · Post Post #1268 (isolation #88) » Wed Jun 10, 2020 4:54 pm

Anyway, some stuff that happened while I was away.
Re: Reading ABR. The only games I remember of him was a game years ago where he was scum and i was a bulletproof vig and he pocketed me very hard, and a game on my alt Luna Fox where he was town and i cop'd him coz he asked me not to cop him and I got redirected got a wrong result and mislynched him.

I don't think I would be able reliable in being asked how to read ABR.

Anything else I missed?

Sakura Hana · Post Post #1270 (isolation #89) » Wed Jun 10, 2020 4:58 pm

OH about Flavor Leaf.
In a nutshell, if he's being consistent and makes sense he's scum, if he's being inconsistent and forgets things or misses obvious things, he's town.
Also apparently he thinks im the only one who can gut read him correctly for some reason.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #1273 (isolation #90) » Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:00 pm

My thoughts on Looker have not changed much, I think he's scum and i also think Fred is a partner.
My thoughts on FL is that he looks like his town self but I need more time to be sure.
My thoughts on Claire is that I dont remember them much and I probably need to ISO them to remember anything.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #1274 (isolation #91) » Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:09 pm

Wait a minute.
Who are the people that have been saying that the entirety of D1 in MS is basically useless and only it really begins D2? Because that's objectively untrue. I noticed Clair mentioned it, but I dont remember who else might have.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #1276 (isolation #92) » Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:11 pm

In post 1275, Albert B. Rampage wrote:I was. And it's true.

I respectfully disagree, I do know some people work better with more info but that doesnt mean D1 is useless.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #1277 (isolation #93) » Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:12 pm

In post 1275, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Great, we're lynching Fred!

Sure
VOTE: Fred

In hindsight i should've included this in my previous post, but I was lazy to double quote the same post.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #1279 (isolation #94) » Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:14 pm

Can I take this as a reads list?:

In post 1104, NoPowerOverMe wrote:I am dividing the player group into 4 groups right now:
*the 2143s:
NPOM
,
Firebringer
,
Fred
,
Sakura

*the aire's:
Blair
,
Flair
,
Clair

*the active's:
ABR
,
FL
,
Looker
,
turkey

*the inactives:
stan
,
IAAU

I assume the colors mean your reads, but figured I'd ask.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #1280 (isolation #95) » Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:14 pm

While you respond Ill go read Clair's ISO again.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #1288 (isolation #96) » Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:20 pm

In post 776, Clair wrote:I prefer to townhunt and be vocal about my townreads.

Oh hey, this sounds familiar.
At the very least they seem consistent with their townhunting style, but either they arent being as vocal, or they dont have very many townreads, I wanna hear what they are doing to remedy that, or correct me if im wrong.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #1290 (isolation #97) » Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:22 pm

In post 1283, NoPowerOverMe wrote:
In post 1279, Sakura Hana wrote:Can I take this as a reads list?:
In post 1104, NoPowerOverMe wrote:I am dividing the player group into 4 groups right now:
*the 2143s:
NPOM
,
Firebringer
,
Fred
,
Sakura

*the aire's:
Blair
,
Flair
,
Clair

*the active's:
ABR
,
FL
,
Looker
,
turkey

*the inactives:
stan
,
IAAU
I assume the colors mean your reads, but figured I'd ask.
Yes.

Why are Looker, and Fred town?
And also I'm interested in knowing why YOU townread FL, considering even I dont have a lock townread there yet.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #1292 (isolation #98) » Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:23 pm

In post 1282, Albert B. Rampage wrote:or be a catspaw for the offsite aliens.

This made me laugh so hard

Sakura Hana · Post Post #1298 (isolation #99) » Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:27 pm

In post 1295, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Not wanting to vote someone that I feel is going to flip town is not scummy

This is correct, however you havent explained why they are town.

Sakura Hana · Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:27 pm

In post 1297, Albert B. Rampage wrote:you townblocked almost the entire player list but left out someone you think will flip town?

Oh wow i didnt even notice that, i need to pay more attention.

Sakura Hana · Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:31 pm

In post 1300, NoPowerOverMe wrote:The reasoning on the wagon is poor.

VOTE: NPOM

In post 1304, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Whatever. you guys are dumb.

VOTE: NPOM

Sakura Hana · Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:36 pm

Also I'm partially sheeping ABR, I wanna learn to scumhunt like in the guide I read someday.

Sakura Hana · Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:40 pm

In post 1316, NoPowerOverMe wrote:I'm thinking abr is either off his game or scum.

WTF is even this.

Sakura Hana · Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:43 pm

In post 1321, Flair wrote:
In post 1313, Sakura Hana wrote:Also I'm partially sheeping ABR, I wanna learn to scumhunt like in the guide I read someday.
Don't set your sights so low.

What do you mean.
I always wanted to be a player that can single handlely win town games.

Sakura Hana · Wed Jun 10, 2020 6:00 pm

In post 1331, Blair wrote:
In post 1328, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 1325, NoPowerOverMe wrote:I'm not totally unwilling to lynch looker, I just think there are scummier players. Why would I want to lunch the 4th on my list if there are 3 scum?
Fred not looker
If Looker is his #4 suspect, as he says here, and Looker is a town read, as he has said repeatedly, and all other players are in his townbloc, then Fred is his #5 and is an *even stronger* townread than Looker, so I’m guessing he doesn’t want that, either.

It also means he has an impressive 10 town reads and 3 scum reads, with no null reads, in what is almost certainly a 10 town, 3 scum game.

So there is a small chance we are lynching the most competent scum hunter in this game.

But since he is making zero attempts to persuade anyone, if that’s the case I doubt it would have helped us much.

Fun fact, in our previous game I had literally 10 townreads (2 of them strong townreads) and 3 leftovers, because most of everyone in that game was being so damn townie, to the point that most of the leftovers wound up being the lurkers.
Makes me wonder if he's trying to copy that in this game.

Sakura Hana · Wed Jun 10, 2020 6:22 pm

In post 1345, Fredrick A Campbell wrote:
In post 1273, Sakura Hana wrote:My thoughts on Looker have not changed much, I think he's scum and i also think Fred is a partner.
...
Sakura Hana,

If you are still scumreading me because of my suspicion on stan1ey but I was null on Looker, I would like to point out that I admitted that I didn't have a strong reason to scumread stan1ey and have stopped doing so. Now that I think about that situation, I think I have a strong bias against anyone I question and do not answer my question. I have corrected for that bias in my present reads.

I believe it's possible you made this mistake with stanley, I dont believe you make this mistake with stanley causing you to scumread him while nullreading Looker's content (or lack thereof at that point)

Sakura Hana · Wed Jun 10, 2020 6:24 pm

I'd also like to point out that NPOM sheeped me on Clair when i was sheeping ABR who was sheeping Firebringer (god that was a mouthful) because "he trusted my instincts" but when I switch gears towards Fred and Looker he immediately decides to stop "trusting my instincts".

Sakura Hana · Wed Jun 10, 2020 6:32 pm

In post 1353, NoPowerOverMe wrote:,sorry to hurt your feelings Sakura. Sheeping fire last game got drew lynched.

But you have Clair in your scumreads, so were you really "trusting my instincts" or were you just making shit up.

Sakura Hana · Wed Jun 10, 2020 6:35 pm

So you were making shit up, got it.

Sakura Hana · Wed Jun 10, 2020 6:59 pm

In post 1360, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Flavor seems like he's uninformed, and like I said before looker seems active and engaged enough.

So how does someone

look informed

If I were to take a guess they look like you.

Sakura Hana · Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:00 pm

Note: That wasnt a real question, im just being snarky.

Sakura Hana · Thu Jun 11, 2020 3:17 am

In post 1390, Looker wrote:How does Sakura remember my 19 posts more than she remembers Clair's 78?

I suppose you answered yourself here.

Sakura Hana · Thu Jun 11, 2020 3:33 am

In post 1472, NoPowerOverMe wrote:That's kind of a wierd take on me actually considering I voted correctly in lylo last game.

You mean after LQ came in and called Porkens town in the thread by accident post-mortem and you believed he knew Porkens was town?

Sakura Hana · Thu Jun 11, 2020 3:58 am

In post 1479, Flair wrote:Beyond Stan, Clair, and IAAU, you left ABR, Fred, and Looker our of your village core.

Actually he included ABR:

In post 1111, NoPowerOverMe wrote:I don't know about everyone else, but I think we can townblock me, FB, FL, Sakura, Blair, Flair, Sakura, and Turkey, at least until we have info stating otherwise.

In post 1112, NoPowerOverMe wrote:And ABR.

And yet he's now voting for him.

Sakura Hana · Thu Jun 11, 2020 4:04 am

Considering how strongly he's been against lynching Fred or Looker, people who he left out of his townbloc, and yet took so little for him to switch ABR to a scumread, a person he had in his townbloc, I believe the chances of those reads being fake is pretty high. I think this increases the chances of Fred and Looker being partners if he's scum, or at least one of them.

It's some pretty awkward stances to have, and I think anyone can see the implications of those reads without me having to spell it out.

Sakura Hana · Thu Jun 11, 2020 4:11 am

In post 1486, NoPowerOverMe wrote:I'm not totally against a Fred lynch.

This is what you responded to ABR when he asked you to vote Fred or Looker:

In post 1295, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Not wanting to vote someone that I feel is going to flip town is not scummy

This is what you responded to Fred:

In post 1371, Fredrick A Campbell wrote:If that's the case, why is it that I am never scum in your reads?

In post 1372, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Because you're playing similarly to 2143 where you were town.

This is what you responded too:

In post 1325, NoPowerOverMe wrote:
I'm not totally unwilling to lynch looker
, I just think there are scummier players. Why would I want to lunch the 4th on my list if there are 3 scum?

Yet, your actions have never shown any actual willingness to lynch Looker and Fred, you got scumread and wagoned due to not wanting to choose a side between those 2 because they were townreads, and yet again, you voted ABR who was in your townbloc.
Your actions and words arent matching up with each other.

Sakura Hana · Thu Jun 11, 2020 4:12 am

In post 1491, Sakura Hana wrote:ue to not wanting to choose a side between those 2 because they were townreads

OH and because of that colossal townbloc that looked like you were informed.

Sakura Hana · Thu Jun 11, 2020 4:19 am

In post 1497, Flair wrote:Sakura, thoughts on Looker and ABR?

Would you consider either?

I've said several times that i scumread Looker, so yes wrt him, ABR not today at least, and lately im growing more towards thinking he's most likely town too.

Sakura Hana · Thu Jun 11, 2020 10:39 am

In post 1502, iamausername wrote:Sakura is making excellent points and i am going to be so disappointed if this NPOM wagon falls apart after that.

Wow, that's the first time someone has said something like that about me in mafia

Sakura Hana · Thu Jun 11, 2020 10:40 am

Maybe I'm actually getting better at explaining my thought process?

Sakura Hana · Thu Jun 11, 2020 10:41 am

In post 1564, Flavor Leaf wrote:Yeah, NPOM is genuine af.

This is a dissapointment.
I don't see anything genuine about their reads or thought process.

Sakura Hana · Thu Jun 11, 2020 10:52 am

In post 1505, Looker wrote:Sakura Hana has never said WHY she scumreads me. I'm pretty sure it's because it's convenient.

My reasoning has been mentioned before:

In post 464, Sakura Hana wrote:Why do you think stanley's single post is scum indicative
but Looker's walls that contain literally nothing but fluff and some votes
are NAI?

In post 1273, Sakura Hana wrote:My thoughts on Looker have not changed much, I think he's scum and
i also think Fred is a partner.

In post 1351, Sakura Hana wrote:I believe it's possible you made this mistake with stanley,
I dont believe you make this mistake with stanley causing you to scumread him while nullreading Looker's content (or lack thereof at that point)

But since you cant read im gonna summarize it for you:
Your content has been very lacking, specially early game when i interrogated Fred about it, and I figured the reason he nullread you and scumread stanley was because you're a partner and stanley was a townie, so half of it is the early content and half of it is association, your content.... has improved but not by much and I still wanna lynch you because you dont seem to be reading my posts in good faith and you never asked me for a reason why I scumread you before and now you come complaining that I never mentioned it.

Sakura Hana · Thu Jun 11, 2020 6:38 pm

In post 1669, Firebringer wrote:He played a game with her recently. I don't think this is outside her personality.

This is true.

Sakura Hana · Thu Jun 11, 2020 6:47 pm

FOS: Firebringer

P-Edit: lol

Sakura Hana · Thu Jun 11, 2020 6:52 pm

Hey Firebringer is teaching NPOM about my personality how you generally interact with your scumreads?

Sakura Hana · Thu Jun 11, 2020 6:55 pm

Hmm, re-reading things maybe you're just scumhunting NPOM.

Sakura Hana · Thu Jun 11, 2020 6:56 pm

I don't know some of those interactions felt weird, like I felt the sensation that you were talking to someone you knew was town or a buddy.

Sakura Hana · Thu Jun 11, 2020 7:15 pm

So am I the only one that thinks Looker's scum via Fred's awkward read on the slot pages ago?

Sakura Hana · Thu Jun 11, 2020 7:17 pm

In post 1710, NoPowerOverMe wrote:I've never played with scum Sakura. In 2143 she self meta'd as "freezing up as scum" somewhere I believe. Don't know if that is true.

This is correct

Sakura Hana · Thu Jun 11, 2020 7:18 pm

In post 1712, Blair wrote:
In post 1709, Sakura Hana wrote:So am I the only one that thinks Looker's scum via Fred's awkward read on the slot pages ago?
Can you explain what you mean here? Are you suggesting Looker/Fred scum team?

Yes:

In post 449, Fredrick A Campbell wrote:Here are where my scumreads are at present.

Albert B. Rampage
stan1ey

I was going to challenge NoPowerOverMe's points about Looker, but those points are indeed valid. However, I do not have a scumread on Looker because in the very least he has been posting and I don't think his behaviour up to this point is alignment indicative.

In post 453, Fredrick A Campbell wrote:VOTE: Looker

L-4

In post 464, Sakura Hana wrote:Why do you think stanley's single post is scum indicative but Looker's walls that contain literally nothing but fluff and some votes are NAI?

Sakura Hana · Thu Jun 11, 2020 7:19 pm

In post 1715, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Do you really think there's no scum in me/fb/flair/blair/clair/FL?

FL and Clair in that list are still TBD.
FL is currently on the town-lean side, but im pretty confident i'll be able to identify scum him given time.

Sakura Hana · Thu Jun 11, 2020 7:20 pm

In post 1715, Albert B. Rampage wrote:It cant be looker/fred/NPOM lol

Looker and Fred are good bets for associations, NPOM looks informed, that's about it.

Sakura Hana · Thu Jun 11, 2020 7:21 pm

In post 1718, Firebringer wrote:Sakura r u still confident on NPOM?

In all seriousness, not really, but im being stubborn.
I faltered first when you were talking with him thinking you were talking to someone you knew was town, and then 1705.

Sakura Hana · Thu Jun 11, 2020 7:23 pm

In post 1720, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Are you guys ready to know what an elite scumhunter thinks? I think I'm ready to call it for real now.

Yes

Sakura Hana · Thu Jun 11, 2020 7:25 pm

In post 1104, NoPowerOverMe wrote:I am dividing the player group into 4 groups right now:
*the 2143s:
NPOM
,
Firebringer
,
Fred
,
Sakura

*the aire's:
Blair
,
Flair
,
Clair

*the active's:
ABR
,
FL
,
Looker
,
turkey

*the inactives:
stan
,
IAAU

LOL

Sakura Hana · Thu Jun 11, 2020 7:26 pm

I had a feeling I had seen those scumreads before.

Sakura Hana · Thu Jun 11, 2020 7:28 pm

In post 1737, Albert B. Rampage wrote:im nomming NPOM for a scummy if he 2/3'd the scum team lmao

So you posted those without literally realizing that?
Man this might be a kodak moment im laughing so hard xD

Sakura Hana · Thu Jun 11, 2020 7:28 pm

VOTE: stanley
If it's meta, then I'll trust it.

Sakura Hana · Thu Jun 11, 2020 7:31 pm

ABR mentioned 95% chance of Stanley being scum based off meta.

Sakura Hana · Thu Jun 11, 2020 8:23 pm

In post 1770, Blair wrote:Two minutes after I posted 1735 about Sakura, she sheeped ABR's Stan1ey vote and then disappeared, by the way.

Not trying to be paranoid, buuuuuuut...

I havent dissapeared, but there's nothing for me to respond nor anything I need to comment on.
Also considering it's 2:23 AM and I could very well have gone to sleep already this feels like reaching.

Sakura Hana · Thu Jun 11, 2020 8:27 pm

In post 1781, Blair wrote:Nothing to comment on? 1735 was literally only about you. You could have responded to that.

Well the question was worded as directed at people other than me.
Unless you want me to comment on myself?
Well I'm okay with being interrogated.

Sakura Hana · Thu Jun 11, 2020 8:29 pm

In post 1735, Blair wrote:Someone who knows Sakura better than me please weigh in, here. I remember her mentioning earlier that FL said she could read him, but her own level of confidence here feels out of character somehow.

I don't know her very well, though, maybe it's on-brand.

See this sounds as if it's directed at people that know me, not myself.

Sakura Hana · Thu Jun 11, 2020 8:31 pm

In post 1789, Blair wrote:Sakura, can you also please weigh in? Preferably with an example of one of your town games where you were similarly confident in your ability to read Flavor Leaf.

This would be the first time i've professed confidence in reading Flavor Leaf. I actually hadn't realized I was good at reading him until he mentioned it in a game where i was scum vs town him. I feel this is gonna defeat the point buuut, if you were scum, in a game with someone you know can read you, and that person says they are confident they can catch scum you, what would you do?

Sakura Hana · Thu Jun 11, 2020 8:35 pm

I have however professed confidence in reading on an entirely different player in the past, to the point that one game I didnt wanna risk mentioning a read on said player due to fear of breaking that 100% read rate on him, to the point of him flipping scum and turning everyone against me.

Sakura Hana · Thu Jun 11, 2020 8:46 pm

In post 1809, Blair wrote:
In post 1800, Sakura Hana wrote:I have however professed confidence in reading on an entirely different player in the past, to the point that one game I didnt wanna risk mentioning a read on said player due to fear of breaking that 100% read rate on him, to the point of him flipping scum and turning everyone against me.
This is the part that's different:
to the point that one game I didn't wanna risk mentioning a read on said player due to fear of breaking that 100% read rate on him
You don't seem worried about that at all this time.

Probably because I realized that caring about such things is pointless, I did learn my lesson from that game, even if it hurt my feelings so hard I quit mafia for like 4 months.

Sakura Hana · Thu Jun 11, 2020 8:48 pm

In post 1813, Blair wrote:So you agree there is a stark contrast?

I'm not sure what you mean by this.
There is a difference between both games, yeah?
I dont think there's been a situation like this one ever, just that one that's similar.

Sakura Hana · Thu Jun 11, 2020 8:55 pm

In post 1825, Blair wrote:
In post 1816, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 1813, Blair wrote:So you agree there is a stark contrast?
I'm not sure what you mean by this.
There is a difference between both games, yeah?
I dont think there's been a situation like this one ever, just that one that's similar.
To put it another way, you seem to agree with me that this is a change in behavior, you've just supplied a different reason for the change - I suggested you might be more confident in your reads because you're informed, and you suggested you're more confident than ever before because you learned something new.

Oh, i see, I guess the point went totally over your head.
P-Edit: Wait what?

Sakura Hana · Thu Jun 11, 2020 8:59 pm

I'm not sure what to think about that hammer.

Sakura Hana · Thu Jun 11, 2020 8:59 pm

@Blair if I'm dead FL is scum. That's what my overconfidence meant.

Sakura Hana · Thu Jun 11, 2020 9:03 pm

I've put FL in a situation where if he's scum he cant NK me without incriminating himself.

Sakura Hana · Thu Jun 11, 2020 9:04 pm

In post 1842, stan1ey wrote:the ones who sheeped a meta read that was clearly false and didnt bother checking it themselves are the most suspect

Ok so we figured out I'm lazy, so what.

Sakura Hana · Thu Jun 11, 2020 9:05 pm

In post 1846, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1844, Sakura Hana wrote:I've put FL in a situation where if he's scum he cant NK me without incriminating himself.
You actually put yourself in a position where if I’m scum, I can kill you, and state someone’s trying to incriminate me

^
dont believe NKA, if im dead, lynch FL.

Sakura Hana · Thu Jun 11, 2020 9:13 pm

Oh so THAT's what's happening.
Blair/FL scumteam i'm sensing.

Sakura Hana · Thu Jun 11, 2020 9:13 pm

and yeah idc if it's OMGUS or anything I feel I'm being setup here.

Sakura Hana · Thu Jun 11, 2020 9:18 pm

In post 1855, Blair wrote:Flavor Leaf busting up what I was about to do makes us a viable scum team? That's a hot take.

It certainly isnt if you're using it as a way to push me.

Sakura Hana · Thu Jun 11, 2020 9:19 pm

I guess my faked overconfidence on reading FL must have struck a nerve on the scum team.

Sakura Hana · Thu Jun 11, 2020 9:21 pm

In post 1859, Blair wrote:
Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 1855, Blair wrote:Flavor Leaf busting up what I was about to do makes us a viable scum team? That's a hot take.
It certainly isnt if you're using it as a way to push me.
I already had a way to push you, though.

It might be something to push Flavor Leaf for, but if you read what I actually said I wasn't pushing you for his hammer.

Yeah you said this:

In post 1852, Blair wrote:Flavor Leaf, you sure you didn't do that because it looked like I might be preparing to push Sakura?

I'm not saying my case was
that
scary, but... that timing.

Sakura Hana · Thu Jun 11, 2020 9:22 pm

In post 1862, Blair wrote:
In post 1857, Sakura Hana wrote:I guess my faked overconfidence on reading FL must have struck a nerve on the scum team.
This post reeks.

With her left hand she discounts her confidence as a fake gambit, while with her right hand she exudes so much scumhunting confidence that she claims the scum team must fear her.

Considering that's what I was going for to begin with, why are you surprised.

Sakura Hana · Thu Jun 11, 2020 9:23 pm

The moment i mentioned said overconfidence on reading FL, you starting chasing me, then FL makes an entrance and then quick hammers stanley, this cant be just a coincidence.

Sakura Hana · Thu Jun 11, 2020 9:26 pm

In post 1866, Blair wrote:You are simultaneously claiming that the confidence was a fake gambit and claiming that you are so confident that Flavor Leaf panicked as scum and ended the phase to evade you specifically.

Yeah, so?

Sakura Hana · Thu Jun 11, 2020 9:28 pm

If FL bought the gambit and whatever scum team he is in, it's possible said scumteam entered a panic.

Sakura Hana · Thu Jun 11, 2020 9:28 pm

You trying to sell it as if only your interpretation of the events is possible is scum motivated.

Sakura Hana · Thu Jun 11, 2020 9:33 pm

In post 1873, Blair wrote:
Sakura Hana wrote:If FL bought the gambit and whatever scum team he is in, it's possible said scumteam entered a panic.
So there was some conversation in scum daychat akin to...

"Sakura said she has a light townread on me but that she's confident she could catch scum!Me later on, what do I do?"

"Quick! lolhammer your townread before she catches you!"

The missing part is where FL NKs me before that.
Hence my posting earlier.

Sakura Hana · Thu Jun 11, 2020 9:34 pm

or after that i guess.

Sakura Hana · Thu Jun 11, 2020 9:41 pm

Oh yeah man, totally try to mislynch the person that's playing to their town meta. That's 100% gonna work, yep.

Sakura Hana · Thu Jun 11, 2020 9:42 pm

In post 1878, Blair wrote:We have already established that complete confidence in your ability to sort Flavor Leaf is *not* your town meta.

We have established that is not part of ANY meta.

Sakura Hana · Thu Jun 11, 2020 9:46 pm

In post 1880, Blair wrote:Thank you for agreeing with me that you are not following your town meta. I graciously accept your intellectual surrender.

Except everything else is part of my town meta.
You trying to strawman me now?

Sakura Hana · Thu Jun 11, 2020 9:47 pm

But since you're so obsessed with this "meta" thing here's how a scum sakura (on my alt) handles said "confidence" on FL:
viewtopic.php?p=11728063#p11728063

Sakura Hana · Thu Jun 11, 2020 9:50 pm

Because you're arguing that being confident is what makes me scum.

Sakura Hana · Thu Jun 11, 2020 9:51 pm

In post 1885, Blair wrote:FYI, following your town game almost perfectly but then slipping in a small but noticeable way is how *most* scum are caught, not sure why you're pretending it isn't.

Because that's how scum mislynch me all the time.
And im following my town meta because im fucking town.

Sakura Hana · Thu Jun 11, 2020 9:54 pm

You know what, im not in the mood for this.
I dont even know if you're town or scum or whatever, im too hot headed to figure it out.
I'm not going through this ever again.

Replace out.

Sakura Hana · Fri Jun 26, 2020 6:53 pm

Oh look a trust tell.
Oh look my slot was scum.

Seriously speaking tho, it's the first time I've ever gotten so emotional as scum to ragequit like that.

Sakura Hana · Fri Jun 26, 2020 7:00 pm

I feel like the same would've happened as town and that doesnt give me good feelings.
Probably because ABR scares me as either alignment due to limited past experience and i end up saying things i dont mean to say just to avoid having to deal with his abrassiveness that I remember from years ago.

Sakura Hana · Fri Jun 26, 2020 7:01 pm

Feels Bad, I really wanted to play scum with FL.

Sakura Hana · Fri Jun 26, 2020 7:03 pm

Although like 10% of it was because I've been wanting to kill that stupid Trust Tell once and for all.

Sakura Hana · Fri Jun 26, 2020 7:06 pm

In post 3209, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 3205, Sakura Hana wrote:I feel like the same would've happened as town and that doesnt give me good feelings.
Probably because ABR scares me as either alignment due to limited past experience and i end up saying things i dont mean to say just to avoid having to deal with his abrassiveness that I remember from years ago.
we didnt even interact though?

You got suspicious of me at the time i think? due to me not starting any fights with the lairs or FL and FB and you or something, and asked me about my read on FL, and I just decided to blurt out whatever would get you out of my hair.
Literally would've done the same thing as town.

Sakura Hana · Fri Jun 26, 2020 7:08 pm

Which lead to my argument with Blair, which literally led to the exact same feelings I have when I get confronted like that when I'm town and that caused me into doing something I regreted immediately after I posted it, but since nowadays you cant take back replace out requests what was done was done and I had to leave.

Sakura Hana · Fri Jun 26, 2020 7:09 pm

The only relief I have is that I can finally stop becoming IC everytime i ragequit as town, although I hope ragequitting doesnt happen ever again, It's not good for my heart.

Sakura Hana · Fri Jun 26, 2020 7:12 pm

In post 3212, Albert B. Rampage wrote:lol was sad you subbed out

I think you're a good scumhunter and i read your guide and look up to you.
However, I have bad memories of previous games with you where you've literally killed all the fun in the game for me, although not intentionally obviously and you probably werent even aware.
Sadly I dont remember exactly from where coz the only games I remember was the game where i was some sort of bulletproof vig where you were scum and that one dragon age mafia where i was on my alt Luna Fox and I was a cop.

Sakura Hana · Fri Jun 26, 2020 7:13 pm

I guess your previous avatar was also scarier.

Sakura Hana · Fri Jun 26, 2020 7:15 pm

But anyways, what's done is done, I did something that I shouldnt (yet again, although this time I wasnt town), and no matter how much I regret doing it, It's something that I did, so whatever happens to me will happen, and I'm just gonna probably take another break from Mafia.