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Post Post #1876 (isolation #200) » Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:43 am

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If Foureyes is scum then i think Billy Pilgrim is likely town because he was pushing early and i don't think it would be bussing based on the way he was interacting with him.
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Post Post #1881 (isolation #201) » Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:46 am

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In post 1879, TheFourEyedDude wrote:You two are dense, maybe baked goods are no good for you.
Who are you saying this too?
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Post Post #1884 (isolation #202) » Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:49 am

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In post 1883, TheFourEyedDude wrote:The two dense ones, you and pooky.
So you are scum claiming.
You think i'm scum, yet you're calling me "dense". Meaning you actually subtly know i'm town and slipped.
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Post Post #1886 (isolation #203) » Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:51 am

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And you don't have a lot more to say to refute Pooky's very valid points about you setting up for my flip other than talking about baked goods.
Not a good look for you.
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Post Post #1887 (isolation #204) » Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:52 am

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In post 1885, TheFourEyedDude wrote:No, no, I'm not, genius. Try reading.
So pray, can you point out exactly what i'm missing that's so obvious?
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Post Post #1888 (isolation #205) » Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:52 am

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Setting up me for Sirirus's flip*
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Post Post #1890 (isolation #206) » Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:54 am

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K, i'll give you a break to compose yourself.
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Post Post #1893 (isolation #207) » Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:15 am

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In post 1891, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:you can't use emotional appeals on us

we r tier A emotional mind-readers
You see this?
*Knocks on Pooky's and my head*
That's pure 100% oak wood.
Nothing will come through today.
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Post Post #1896 (isolation #208) » Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:53 am

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Good vote.
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Post Post #1900 (isolation #209) » Tue Sep 01, 2020 10:16 am

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In post 1899, lilith2013 wrote:nvm ignore me, foureyes/zombie/una also not mentioned. I was hoping that would just be the solve lmao
This is a prime example of what i’ve been talking about.
Your alignment is sealed, now you just need to be convinced to vote scum instead of me.
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Post Post #1901 (isolation #210) » Tue Sep 01, 2020 10:25 am

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Nep and Four’s way of playing is like they were both setting up for Sirius’s townflip.
You should vote them Lilith.
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Post Post #1902 (isolation #211) » Tue Sep 01, 2020 10:33 am

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Also, this might be obnoxius for me to repeat.
But Pooky really made a good point when he said that Nep and Four are acting weird when they said i was white knighting Sirius, yet is now VOTING Sirius instead of me.
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Post Post #1905 (isolation #212) » Tue Sep 01, 2020 10:48 am

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Nep does look worse. I’m pretty sure.
VOTE: Nepenthes
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Post Post #1906 (isolation #213) » Tue Sep 01, 2020 10:51 am

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In post 1904, TheFourEyedDude wrote:you have incorrectly compared this game to Newbie 2022.
Actually, i’m pretty sure i didn’t.
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Post Post #1907 (isolation #214) » Tue Sep 01, 2020 10:52 am

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His play looked vastly different from here so far.
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Post Post #2262 (isolation #215) » Tue Sep 01, 2020 7:27 pm

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UNVOTE:
Idk if emotions from Una are real. But i kinda vibe with them based on this double PR claim. Maybe one is fake, but either way they’re not being lynched today.
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Post Post #2263 (isolation #216) » Tue Sep 01, 2020 7:27 pm

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Also NM is conf!town.
What is this hell on earth.
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Post Post #2265 (isolation #217) » Tue Sep 01, 2020 7:28 pm

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In post 2264, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:is the meta for minis to have 3 scum?
Sometimes there are 2.
But mostly always 3.
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Post Post #2267 (isolation #218) » Tue Sep 01, 2020 7:32 pm

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I won’t exactly propose an Sirius lynch, but wouldn’t oppose it either.
I’m curious if i should vote Billy again tho. Will need more time to get my reads in order based on this info.
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Post Post #2269 (isolation #219) » Tue Sep 01, 2020 7:33 pm

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Mainly cus that just flipped my: "scummy players list" in half and Sirius is kinda sticking out like a sore thumb now.
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Post Post #2270 (isolation #220) » Tue Sep 01, 2020 7:34 pm

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In post 2268, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Billy feels like a good surface level vote

what are your reasons for suspecting him?
Mainly just because i suspected them in the first place. But i’m busy right now, i’ll mull over this and place my vote when i get to work later today.
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Post Post #2271 (isolation #221) » Tue Sep 01, 2020 7:49 pm

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In post 2268, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Billy feels like a good surface level vote
Are you saying you think he's lynchbait or a good place to put your vote? "Surface level" carries negative associations with me, but idk how you use that word.
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Post Post #2274 (isolation #222) » Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:00 pm

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In post 2272, UnaBombaH wrote:Huoh.
So I say that I'm thinking Norweg will flip town this game.
And then I absolutely hate it that NOW Norweg is no longer "opposing" the Sirius-lynch. :facepalm:

Now that we have already pushed two claims out and Sirius has actually appeared and promised(?) to start posting..
What's your preferred lynch.
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Post Post #2275 (isolation #223) » Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:01 pm

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I'm just kinda ticked off at the double PR claim.
Nothing is the same anymore.
The world has changed.
So does it even matter if i oppose the Sirirus lynch?
That's what went through my head Una.
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Post Post #2280 (isolation #224) » Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:59 pm

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May i also add that Sirius has gone from doing nothing, to presenting reads that are hot garbage.
Which is worse? :lol:
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Post Post #2281 (isolation #225) » Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:02 pm

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In post 2029, Sirius9121 wrote:scum = SS/Sausade?
Why is this?!
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Post Post #2282 (isolation #226) » Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:03 pm

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In post 2245, Sirius9121 wrote:Since i'm sheeping IV, VOTE: Billy lol
You’re the last player i want to see sheeping anyone.
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Post Post #2284 (isolation #227) » Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:28 pm

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At least Pooky will probably live now, assuming Nep and Foureyes were being honest.
I believe Foureyes claim møre though, because he crumbed it and it was so unique i doubt scum would make it.
Nep’s claim was a bit meh, but i accept that they’ll live for today and just treat them as likely town for the time being.
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Post Post #2285 (isolation #228) » Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:30 pm

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Ops, made a Norwee slip there. :x
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Post Post #2286 (isolation #229) » Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:32 pm

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What on earth’s the VC.
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Post Post #2290 (isolation #230) » Tue Sep 01, 2020 10:56 pm

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In post 2157, innocentvillager wrote:{Norway, Sirius, BP, Zombie, SS}
I think if you remove me and SS this is a good lynchpool to choose from considering events so far.
I’m not terribly sure about IV anymore, but i’d like to trust my gut here and say he’s town.
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Post Post #2291 (isolation #231) » Tue Sep 01, 2020 10:57 pm

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I can just say who you are if you’re not caring about it being hidden anymore Zombie.
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Post Post #2296 (isolation #232) » Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:02 pm

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You’re...
Elements!!
Dun Dun Dun...
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Post Post #2299 (isolation #233) » Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:07 pm

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Actually, i wasn’t totally sure until i randomly checked your profile and saw you literally confirm it in Monks and Mafia. Lel.
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Post Post #2300 (isolation #234) » Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:08 pm

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Oh wait. I broke a rule. Mod help.
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Post Post #2306 (isolation #235) » Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:14 pm

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Why have i become a city much longer north in my country where i don’t live.
I live right in the center where the weather can go from 2C° and snowing to 22C° and sunny with a blue sky in the span of about 1-2 hours.
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Post Post #2310 (isolation #236) » Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:19 pm

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This is a tough situation, i’d consider voting BP. But Sirius has his vote there.
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Post Post #2314 (isolation #237) » Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:22 pm

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In post 2309, the worst wrote:
In post 2306, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Why have i become a city much longer north in my country where i don’t live.
I live right in the center where the weather can go from 2C° and snowing to 22C° and sunny with a blue sky in the span of about 1-2 hours.
tromsø is the same, except from -2 to -22 and Cold
it reminds me of you because it's very pretty and mysterious, yet cold and distant from me
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Post Post #2318 (isolation #238) » Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:29 pm

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In post 2307, Zombie Apocalypse wrote:my elim order goes sirius > BP
Why Sirius over BP?
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Post Post #2320 (isolation #239) » Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:31 pm

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I wish you’d TR me back Lily.
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Post Post #2321 (isolation #240) » Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:31 pm

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VOTE: Billy Pilgrim
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Post Post #2322 (isolation #241) » Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:33 pm

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Never was a big fan of football.
At least the enfant terrible plays Pokemon. A much more healthy gamer living style.
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Post Post #2326 (isolation #242) » Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:49 pm

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BP’s Una vote just isn’t very good. I do not want to lynch them today.
It’s between BP and Sirius for me currently. And i prefer BP over him.
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Post Post #2330 (isolation #243) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 12:28 am

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But you’re voting me Duck.
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Post Post #2333 (isolation #244) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 2:51 am

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U liked my stance on Sirius remember.
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Post Post #2339 (isolation #245) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:50 am

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In post 2335, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 2255, UnaBombaH wrote:Also let me be a brat and say that I felt certain that Nep was going to claim PR.
This is interesting, considering that Nep clearly softed VT and that's why my vote is still on her.
Where?
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Post Post #2350 (isolation #246) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 6:12 am

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Woo.
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Post Post #2356 (isolation #247) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 9:51 am

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It’s gone quiet... too quiet.
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Post Post #2358 (isolation #248) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:08 am

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Are all games becoming way too long or is it just my presence.
I feel like every game i’ve joined so far has like 100 page D1’s.
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Post Post #2360 (isolation #249) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:13 am

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Oh boy.
I’m just thrilled with excitement.
(Siiiigh...)
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Post Post #2402 (isolation #250) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 6:55 pm

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What the hell was that replacement.
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Post Post #2403 (isolation #251) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 6:56 pm

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In post 2381, the worst wrote:what if i told u
nor is a sassy binch as scum too
Actually i’m more of a kawaii kawaii fluffball that wouldn’t hurt a fly :oops:
As scum.
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Post Post #2404 (isolation #252) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 7:00 pm

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If Billy isn’t scum then this i’d be quite lost.
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Post Post #2405 (isolation #253) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 7:02 pm

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I mean, Sirius isn’t exactly the best player, but he was obviously trying his best to make some AI content. So to just toss hum out like that was pretty mean.
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Post Post #2412 (isolation #254) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 11:01 pm

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In post 2411, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i didnt think the replacement could be worse

but it is

lol
Why? He seems fine to me.
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Post Post #2417 (isolation #255) » Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:25 am

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Who is Umbreon
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Post Post #2423 (isolation #256) » Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:44 am

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Waterdispenser isn’t scum.
Next lynch candidate plz.
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Post Post #2425 (isolation #257) » Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:48 am

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Didn’t you just say you repped in because Sirius was so obvtown.
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Post Post #2426 (isolation #258) » Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:49 am

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So you must have read at least that much.
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Post Post #2440 (isolation #259) » Thu Sep 03, 2020 4:14 am

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I don’t think Sirius is the kind of player that can fake anything.
He was awkard and stilted in his scum!games and here he behaved a lot differently.
So Sirius is town.
It makes sense.
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Post Post #2441 (isolation #260) » Thu Sep 03, 2020 4:16 am

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Foureyes linking his scumgame and genuinely believing he is right is townie tho.
He should never be lynched. But Nep is still questionable to me.
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Post Post #2466 (isolation #261) » Thu Sep 03, 2020 6:55 am

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:roll:
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Post Post #2468 (isolation #262) » Thu Sep 03, 2020 6:57 am

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There's like 3 people tunneling me for a vague "good things will happen <3!" non-reasoning.
This is a sad joke.
Can we please play the game for real now.
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Post Post #2471 (isolation #263) » Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:00 am

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Billy Pilgrim or Nepenthes.
I don't trust Nep's vague PR claim.
Either way, unless Nep can mechanically prove his role at a later day assuming he lives that long, he should be lynched imo.
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Post Post #2472 (isolation #264) » Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:03 am

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Hasn't the Worst unexpectedly started taking the backseat lately.
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Post Post #2474 (isolation #265) » Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:05 am

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In post 2473, lilith2013 wrote:do you have actual reasons for scumreading billy beyond that one time that you voted him for asking why you were defending him?
Do you have any actual reasons for scumreading me?
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Post Post #2476 (isolation #266) » Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:06 am

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I don't have a strong case for anyone. All my scumreads are gone. All i have are townreads and i vote the ones i don't TR.
I'd like to see if anyone's got any better.
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Post Post #2478 (isolation #267) » Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:08 am

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So you can't read me. Put me at null. Apply logic= "scum are usually in nullreads" and that's your reason for suspecting me all game?
Pft.
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Post Post #2479 (isolation #268) » Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:09 am

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In post 2477, lilith2013 wrote:- I'm almost positive nepenthes vs norweej is not tvt
I guess Nep wins then cus he vaguely claimed """PR""" and thusly you vote me?
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Post Post #2481 (isolation #269) » Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:10 am

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What is micro 960.
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Post Post #2484 (isolation #270) » Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:12 am

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Are you comparing me to someone? Who?
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Post Post #2487 (isolation #271) » Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:15 am

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I guess this will be a good lesson for you on how to avoid applying your theory incorrectly then.
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Post Post #2488 (isolation #272) » Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:16 am

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In post 2486, lilith2013 wrote:I like how I've been pretty blatant about my scumread on you for ages, and you still townread me throughout all of that, but now that the wagon on you is actually viable you start pushing back on me
Does this look like pushing back to you? I'm only questioning where your logic is coming from. I should be allowed to be curious about why you've kept up your scumread on me for how long and how strong you really believe it.
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Post Post #2490 (isolation #273) » Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:17 am

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In post 2489, lilith2013 wrote:right, why are you only questioning it now?
Because i feel like it, and you're here right now.
There's no particular reason other than that.
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Post Post #2491 (isolation #274) » Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:19 am

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I don't think you'd keep arguing with me like this if you were scum.
So my read haven't changed much, but i did hope maybe you'd change it a bit.
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Post Post #2498 (isolation #275) » Thu Sep 03, 2020 9:00 am

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That's right, y'all will cry without me.
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Post Post #2499 (isolation #276) » Thu Sep 03, 2020 9:02 am

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Somethings gone wrong here, this "universal PoE" or whatever someone called it sucks balls.
Where's the deepwolf :/
Even if it's Billy, who else?
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Post Post #2500 (isolation #277) » Thu Sep 03, 2020 9:03 am

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I'm not calling Billy a deepwolf btw, he's easy. Nobody seems to TR him.
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Post Post #2501 (isolation #278) » Thu Sep 03, 2020 9:05 am

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Maybe the team is something amazingly OP like Worst/S_S/IV or Una.
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Post Post #2502 (isolation #279) » Thu Sep 03, 2020 9:11 am

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I wish i hadn't been working 9 to 5 every single day for these last few weeks. I'm too lazy to do more than surface level analysis, Pooky can you just quckly check for me if there's any associations between these players to see if that could explain this game.
I just want to sleep now.
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Post Post #2505 (isolation #280) » Thu Sep 03, 2020 9:22 am

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Because i'm a part of this game.
You should be more worried if i had gone missing for long periods of time. That's my scum meta in full.
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Post Post #2507 (isolation #281) » Thu Sep 03, 2020 9:28 am

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I'm not sure what my flip would prove anyway. So why'd i end up one of the leading wagons?
Who would be my likely teammates if i flip red? I've mostly allied myself with people that scumread me. Like Lilith. Worst. IV. Etc.
Pooky is already townread.
Defending scum!Sirirus if he was my teammate would be asking for trouble and not worth the risk.

Showcasing and analyizng my own position like this will probably always look scummy, but take a look at the wagon compositions and the state of the game so far. It should be more accurate than reading based on gut scum feels.
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Post Post #2508 (isolation #282) » Thu Sep 03, 2020 9:30 am

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Are there any other plausible wagons than me and Waterchestnut currently?
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Post Post #2511 (isolation #283) » Thu Sep 03, 2020 10:02 am

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The problem is that any scum can just shittily say "I hard claim PR" on day 1 and get away with it for a while. Nep didn’t even specify what they are or make any sort of explanation of how their role will confirm anything.
I might as well just hard claim PR myself.
How about we all hard claim PR.
What’s the difference. You think any scum would say: "i’m vanilla!" and then we’d safely lynch them? I’m actually a bit mad at myself for letting only Una bring this up as a wake up call till now.
Nep’s claim really wasn’t good. There’s no way it confirms anything and i didn’t see anything from their play that made me think: "they might be PR!"
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Post Post #2512 (isolation #284) » Thu Sep 03, 2020 10:06 am

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Nep’s position was dire so there was no way he’d get away with it as scum unless he did exactly what he’s done.
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Post Post #2662 (isolation #285) » Thu Sep 03, 2020 11:03 pm

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In post 2514, osuka wrote:Billy Pilgrim (3) - Waterdispensor, NorwegianboyEE, Zombie Apocalypse
Mod plz, i just changed my vote to Nepenthes.
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Post Post #2663 (isolation #286) » Thu Sep 03, 2020 11:18 pm

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I mean, i’d vote Billy over me.
But if he flips town i’m probably going to need a good and long trip to the mental hospital for rehabilitation.
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Post Post #2664 (isolation #287) » Fri Sep 04, 2020 1:17 am

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One thing that gives me pause about Billy is that i don’t see why he’d not vote me here if he was scum.
This would be the perfect opportunity for scum!Billy to argue why i’m a better lynch than him.
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Post Post #2666 (isolation #288) » Fri Sep 04, 2020 1:26 am

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In post 2665, Billy Pilgrim wrote:Im good being the elim today, but before that happens, I wanna go back and look at the folks who were voting me/positioning themselves to vote me.
You accept your lynch? How would that help town in the long run if you flip town?
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Post Post #2668 (isolation #289) » Fri Sep 04, 2020 1:45 am

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Pooky is so cool that i don’t even want to vote him. Even if i thought he was scum.
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Post Post #2670 (isolation #290) » Fri Sep 04, 2020 2:20 am

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What?
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Post Post #2672 (isolation #291) » Fri Sep 04, 2020 2:23 am

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Ok... :eek:
VOTE: Billy Pilgrim
If you insist on making the vote me then i guess i’ll vote you back.
This seemed like a really sudden and weird heel-face turn. You say you lightly TR me and then bring up some shit about me asking you why you’re fine with being eliminated and vote me...?
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Post Post #2675 (isolation #292) » Fri Sep 04, 2020 2:33 am

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You seriously didn’t realize that from reading my posts on this very page that i was voting Nepenthes?
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Post Post #2676 (isolation #293) » Fri Sep 04, 2020 2:35 am

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I haven’t said i’m sure you’re scum. I said i would vote you over myself if me/you were the only choice.
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Post Post #2677 (isolation #294) » Fri Sep 04, 2020 2:37 am

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Billy, just read my ISO you derp.
You clearly got my motivations wrong.
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Post Post #2680 (isolation #295) » Fri Sep 04, 2020 2:43 am

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:neutral:
This is depressing.
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Post Post #2681 (isolation #296) » Fri Sep 04, 2020 2:48 am

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VOTE: InnocentVillager
Idk. I think i should just re-evaluate everything.
IV, compared to his towngame in Lovers Mafia he is actually acting really different.
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Post Post #2683 (isolation #297) » Fri Sep 04, 2020 3:17 am

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Yeah, you should be careful. You do look pretty old.
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Post Post #2687 (isolation #298) » Fri Sep 04, 2020 4:48 am

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Post Post #2714 (isolation #299) » Sat Sep 05, 2020 1:25 am

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In post 2701, UnaBombaH wrote:With town!Norweg this means nothing, and my initial joke of a Freudian slip is more accurate.
It means nothing and you’re wasting time.
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Post Post #2717 (isolation #300) » Sat Sep 05, 2020 1:49 am

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Yes i’m talking about Billy. Because i’m fucking explaining that if Billy is town then there are deepwolves in this game. But i already knew that.
Why are you blowing this minor issue way out of proportion Una?
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Post Post #2723 (isolation #301) » Sat Sep 05, 2020 2:51 am

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In post 2692, innocentvillager wrote:
In post 2681, NorwegianboyEE wrote:VOTE: InnocentVillager
Idk. I think i should just re-evaluate everything.
IV, compared to his towngame in Lovers Mafia he is actually acting really different.
can you explain your read progression on me up to this point
Your towngame was way more aggressive back in lovers mafia, what is this play you’re going for in this game?
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Post Post #2726 (isolation #302) » Sat Sep 05, 2020 5:12 am

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Hey, here’s an idea. How about neither of us eat the lynch today and we lynch scum instead.
Revolutionary i know.
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Post Post #2733 (isolation #303) » Sat Sep 05, 2020 6:49 am

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To be perfectly frank, i'm the type of player that always attracts a lot of attention to myself, so reading associations based on that should be a lot more helpful for town than if Billy were to flip.
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Post Post #2735 (isolation #304) » Sat Sep 05, 2020 6:53 am

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In post 2729, Waterdispenser wrote:If we exile NorwegianboyEE and he flips scum, it makes you very unlikely scum by virtue of being a counterwagon, and the incredibly not SvS exchange you had a few pages back.
Why is Billy likely town only if i flip scum?
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Post Post #2736 (isolation #305) » Sat Sep 05, 2020 6:54 am

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T+T isn't crossing your mind?
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Post Post #2737 (isolation #306) » Sat Sep 05, 2020 6:55 am

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In post 2727, Waterdispenser wrote:Who you going for and why?
IV right now, i want to hear who you scumread outside of me. Don't just push all responsibility on me. This isn't an easy game. I'm seriously thinking me and Billy are T+T which means all scum are sitting outside of all suspicion right now.
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Post Post #2738 (isolation #307) » Sat Sep 05, 2020 7:04 am

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Tbh, just forget most of my badly made TR's earlier. I was jumping the gun on a lot of those reads, which made the game appear simpler than it is. I've only put the people i TRULY have a strong belief are town this time in my TR's. All yellow are potential deepwolves to me ATM. Pooky i wanna TR but i'm a bit too paranoid to make them 100% town.

TheFourEyedDude
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Post Post #2757 (isolation #308) » Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:03 am

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In post 2750, innocentvillager wrote:also I’m curious if you’re purposely ignoring me and not answering my question or if you genuinely misunderstood the first time and just haven’t noticed that I’m trying to get you to answer my question?
I'm kinda ignoring your question yes.
I guess all there is to it is that i TR you at first, but then i reconsidered because some of my TR's were obviously wrong so i questioned why i really TR you when you've been playing differently than what i remember from your actual earlier town-game i'm familiar with. Did you answer this btw?
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Post Post #2759 (isolation #309) » Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:05 am

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I think we should be more wary of S_S. But this is a strong gut feeling more than anything.
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Post Post #2760 (isolation #310) » Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:12 am

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Also i wish i was a bit less energetic because it's ez for noob town to see that as scummy.
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Post Post #2763 (isolation #311) » Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:17 am

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Like S_S just seems genuinely disinterested in what's going on. I can't remember a single post he's made that's all that good except when he defended Sirius, but that could be white knighting. He's just... there.
Zombie too kinda has that feeling, and that's exactly how i expect scum to be playing when it's a Billy+me T+T being run up for the lynch environment.
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Post Post #2766 (isolation #312) » Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:21 am

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In post 2761, innocentvillager wrote:That game was pretty anomalous where I tried a deathtunnel strategy to get one random person elimd at all costs unless they actually started towntelling. I think I made it clear D2, postgame and even once this game that my first few pages was mostly trolling/“boneheadedness” you described that this is really not part of my normal meta as town or scum
If you say so, i admit i haven't really checked your other games very much so i thought it might have been an excuse.
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Post Post #2768 (isolation #313) » Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:25 am

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Nobody really likes TR'ing a suspected slot when they've think they have solved the game. :v
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Post Post #2769 (isolation #314) » Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:27 am

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I just don't want to do Billy today. He towntold pretty hard imo.
IV, i really wanted to do S_S but i can vote here as a compromise if you're willing to support it at least for now.
VOTE: Zombie Apocalypse
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Post Post #2770 (isolation #315) » Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:29 am

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I actually have a pretty bad history with incorrectly reading S_S now that i think about it. But i did think he was town initially so maybe he's scum this time. Usually i think he's scum but he turns out to be town.
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Post Post #2774 (isolation #316) » Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:35 am

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In post 2772, innocentvillager wrote:ugh are you pocketing me norway

Like I don’t think so because you literally voted me? So I don’t see where your scum!agenda is there unless you’re sick enough to adapt quickly? lol ugh
If i was pocketing you here then i'd like Saudade to hand over his moment of brilliance tag.
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Post Post #2777 (isolation #317) » Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:43 am

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In post 2775, innocentvillager wrote:do you think there is scum!incentive to hide behind the radio thing as a gimmick to be null/unreadable/get a pass for D1?
It obviously wasn't planned as a scum strategy from the get-go. So i think he'd play to his gimmick regardless of what role pm he get's at first.
In post 2775, innocentvillager wrote:and is it more likely for town or scum!Elements to drop the gimmick and start playing for real?
He did alt-slip in game which shall not be mentioned. I'm going to check if that's when he stopped doing it.
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Post Post #2778 (isolation #318) » Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:47 am

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Btw, i don't think Zombie would ever be alligned with either Saudade or Waterdispenser in this game. Because of this post:
In post 2732, Zombie Apocalypse wrote:
In post 2710, Waterdispenser wrote:
In post 2678, Billy Pilgrim wrote:UNVOTE:

Yeah, back to me being the elim today. And I already explained why it helps.
His acceptance of being exiled like this + the reasoning he gave in earlier posts scream town. I've seen behaviour like this from town!Billy before, although that was long, long ago.
acceptance can just be scum wifiom. I'm also not liking your entrance this game, sausage was obvtown, you're marring his efforts.
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Post Post #2779 (isolation #319) » Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:47 am

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That is, never alligned with either: Pooky or Waterdispenser.
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Post Post #2780 (isolation #320) » Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:50 am

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In post 2777, NorwegianboyEE wrote:He did alt-slip in game which shall not be mentioned. I'm going to check if that's when he stopped doing it.
Interestingly he relaxed his gimmick a bit before he alt-slipped. So i don't know if it's just town being tired of their own gimmick or scum finding it difficult to keep up that way of playing. It could be more indicative of scum!Zombie since i think it would be even more tiring for scum to both keep up a gimmick and make fake reads/interactions.
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Post Post #2782 (isolation #321) » Sat Sep 05, 2020 11:04 am

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I asked for an extension, everyone else should do so to.
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Post Post #2783 (isolation #322) » Sat Sep 05, 2020 11:05 am

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In post 2781, UnaBombaH wrote:I do not like the fact that Norweg is trying to start another wagon on a slot with a very light premise.
Then what do you like for me to do in this situation? Sit down and die?
I sure wonder what you'd like from me when i'm in a situation where i TR Billy and i obviously know i'm town myself.
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Post Post #2786 (isolation #323) » Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:13 pm

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In post 2784, Nepenthes wrote:I am done with this day I want a flip atp
Dont TR Zombie so id compromise this but i prefer norwee
Thought you'd like my catch up today.
Can you remind me your main points of why you scumread me? I wanna deconstruct your arguments too.
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Post Post #2797 (isolation #324) » Sat Sep 05, 2020 6:48 pm

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Billy just shut up, i don’t care if you’re a "safe elimination" because you claimed VT. If enough players believe you’re town without needing to see your flip then it’s an absolute waste to eliminate you.
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Post Post #2800 (isolation #325) » Sat Sep 05, 2020 6:51 pm

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That takes a load off the mind. Thank you Worst.
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Post Post #2805 (isolation #326) » Sat Sep 05, 2020 7:02 pm

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In post 2803, the worst wrote:
In post 2762, innocentvillager wrote:
In post 2759, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I think we should be more wary of S_S. But this is a strong gut feeling more than anything.
I know what you are thinking and I get this feeling too

but Lilith is literally so confident on that slot despite being paranoid of everyone else and I know better than to ignore that
you realise they're scum together right? that's the whole punchline
Who’s scum together?
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Post Post #2808 (isolation #327) » Sat Sep 05, 2020 7:14 pm

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Norweeaboo
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Post Post #2813 (isolation #328) » Sun Sep 06, 2020 3:43 am

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Your points are weak Lillith.
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Post Post #2817 (isolation #329) » Sun Sep 06, 2020 3:46 am

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So what?
Like, why does it matter even the slightest bit that i said something random and kinda dumb?
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Post Post #2820 (isolation #330) » Sun Sep 06, 2020 3:49 am

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No Billy, i was referring to you.
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Post Post #2821 (isolation #331) » Sun Sep 06, 2020 3:50 am

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Hurr durr, caught scum. :D
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Post Post #2823 (isolation #332) » Sun Sep 06, 2020 3:53 am

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I was just following up on Billy logic.
That is, if it’s ABSOLUTELY necesarry for town to see one of me/Billy die to actually reconsider their PoE pool then i’d vote Billy.
But before that i’d rather just try to convince everyone me and Billy are town.
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Post Post #2826 (isolation #333) » Sun Sep 06, 2020 3:54 am

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In post 2824, lilith2013 wrote:
In post 2775, innocentvillager wrote: but yeah the only way I see your pocketing is if it’s a real-time spontaneous decision to flip your agenda from casting paranoia outside the PoE block into me and instantly realizing you can use this as a way to get town!Zombie eliminated instead of Scum!BP or scum!Water
I think this is what's happening
Based on what? :roll:
There’s no strong evidence pointing to me being scum over being town is there? Why are you so tunneling?
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Post Post #2838 (isolation #334) » Sun Sep 06, 2020 5:25 am

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In post 2831, lilith2013 wrote:It doesn't make sense for town!norweej to say "I need a trip to a mental hospital for rehab if billy flips town" if he previously thought billy was town.
If i’m slowly realizing my PoE was completely wrong then it’s not strange to express surprise in an exaggerated humorous manner. My flair for the theatrical is something you’re taking a bit too serious.
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Post Post #2841 (isolation #335) » Sun Sep 06, 2020 7:32 am

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In post 2839, Nepenthes wrote:Norwee what manga is your new avatar from
"Don't Toy With Me, Miss Nagatoro"
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Post Post #2843 (isolation #336) » Sun Sep 06, 2020 7:34 am

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In post 2840, Nepenthes wrote:
In post 2786, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 2784, Nepenthes wrote:I am done with this day I want a flip atp
Dont TR Zombie so id compromise this but i prefer norwee
Thought you'd like my catch up today.
Can you remind me your main points of why you scumread me? I wanna deconstruct your arguments too.
Why would I have liked your catchup
This is a weird post when you SR me so hard
Anyone that's town should be able to be reasoned with. I always try to give everyone a chance to redeem themselves, even my scumreads.
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Post Post #2844 (isolation #337) » Sun Sep 06, 2020 7:36 am

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In post 2842, Nepenthes wrote:But why wouldnt it matter
Its AI information in a game where people try to read other peoples motivations and you said something that calls your motivations into question
It was a joke. :facepalm:
And i'm being questioned about it for 10 pages, it's fucking annoying.
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Post Post #2846 (isolation #338) » Sun Sep 06, 2020 7:58 am

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In post 2845, Nepenthes wrote:I first started SRing you when you voted me sheeping saudade
For any other reason than that? This is just OMGUS.
In post 2845, Nepenthes wrote:You had on read on me before but as soon as you had you started finding posts to call scummy that were numerous but unexplained
Made the read feel really manufactured and your reads since have had very surface level on the spot justifications
Both of your votes on billy have had this effect
Impulsive. I will admit fault on the one fact that could be influencing your read, which is that i have been mainly only able to post on mobile these latest days because i'm spending a lot of downtime at my job going through this game and can't post very many deeply analytical posts that bring up quotes and stuff as i usually do because i only have short moments of time where i'm able to use my laptop and can format my posts more professionally, making my play a bit more lazy and probably scummy looking when compared to players with access to a PC with a proper keyboard.
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Feels like youre just going through whoever you think you can get at the time and theres no underlying belief in your own reads or threads that get carried for more than a few irl days
We're in day 1 with no flips so expecting reads to stay rigid is a tall order and nothing i'd see as scummy at this point in time. I also have a meta of quite violently shifting my reads if i believe i'm wrong. Here's an example of my towngame where i do this: Newbie 1981 -> viewtopic.php?f=50&t=81899
I actually think scum are more likely to keep having the same reads constantly if it's convenient. I don't see why changing votes and reads on the same day are seen as scummy, it's one of those things that usually only town does, but somehow it's seen as a scum trait even though it's almost always wrong.
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Post Post #2849 (isolation #339) » Sun Sep 06, 2020 8:46 am

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It seem like you're adamant, who do you think would be scum with me?
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Post Post #2850 (isolation #340) » Sun Sep 06, 2020 8:46 am

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And where would you be looking if i flip town?
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Post Post #2857 (isolation #341) » Sun Sep 06, 2020 10:44 am

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Pookie what’s so funny.
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Post Post #2860 (isolation #342) » Sun Sep 06, 2020 10:48 am

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I still don’t like Nepenthes and they should get under serious scrutiny if they stay alive for long without being cleared mechanically or explaining how their role works. Writing this from phone in bed just as i’m about to sleep for context.
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Post Post #2862 (isolation #343) » Sun Sep 06, 2020 10:50 am

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In post 2853, innocentvillager wrote:
In post 2850, NorwegianboyEE wrote:And where would you be looking if i flip town?
NorwegianboyEE wrote:It seem like you're adamant, who do you think would be scum with me?
This feels like unnecessary openwolfing which seems townie
In post 2852, Nepenthes wrote:
In post 2849, NorwegianboyEE wrote:It seem like you're adamant, who do you think would be scum with me?
I asked you to explain your scumread on me in return

if you flip scum like I think then my other reads already fit with that in mind (+ associatives in your ISO and others that become valuable) and if you flip town I reconsider more strongly
Putting in serious partner analysis before flips isnt gonna happen day 1
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Post Post #2863 (isolation #344) » Sun Sep 06, 2020 10:51 am

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Fuck this phone formatting. Only meant to quote second post.
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Post Post #2864 (isolation #345) » Sun Sep 06, 2020 10:52 am

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In post 2861, the worst wrote:I'm not going to offer to tuck you in.
I don’t understand like 50% of what you say.
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Post Post #2871 (isolation #346) » Sun Sep 06, 2020 10:59 am

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I agree. Let’s consolidate on someone that’s not me/Billy/Foureyes/NM.
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Post Post #2881 (isolation #347) » Sun Sep 06, 2020 11:05 am

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VOTE: Una
It was scummy how he was trying to frame me+Billy as SvS earlier.
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Post Post #2886 (isolation #348) » Sun Sep 06, 2020 11:09 am

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I thought people were saying Worst was good as scum earlier.
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Post Post #2889 (isolation #349) » Sun Sep 06, 2020 11:09 am

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In post 2885, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:the solve probly is just ducky/norwee/billy
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Post Post #2894 (isolation #350) » Sun Sep 06, 2020 11:11 am

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Justice is black and white.
There is no such thing as grey, or brown teddy bears.
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Post Post #2895 (isolation #351) » Sun Sep 06, 2020 11:13 am

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I now feel like IV is more town than Pooky and it’s really wild.
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Post Post #2898 (isolation #352) » Sun Sep 06, 2020 11:15 am

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This day 1 truly is purgatory.
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Post Post #2901 (isolation #353) » Sun Sep 06, 2020 11:17 am

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Are you saying i’m scum giving up?
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Post Post #2903 (isolation #354) » Sun Sep 06, 2020 11:19 am

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If we cut Worst’s posts by 80% then he has some of the lowest post count.
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Post Post #2904 (isolation #355) » Sun Sep 06, 2020 11:19 am

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:good:
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Post Post #2911 (isolation #356) » Sun Sep 06, 2020 11:24 am

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It’s funny how Sausage replaced because of Not_Mafia’s rep in. But they’ve barely had an presence so far.
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Post Post #2914 (isolation #357) » Sun Sep 06, 2020 11:26 am

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In post 2909, the worst wrote:I kind of thrive when I have partner/s who are able to go deep and I can just knock things off the shelf for a bit until I'm caught yeah
Yeah, shitposter+logical bruiser is the best team combo.
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Post Post #2917 (isolation #358) » Sun Sep 06, 2020 11:28 am

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I love useless innocent childs how about you.
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Post Post #2921 (isolation #359) » Sun Sep 06, 2020 11:30 am

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In post 2920, Nepenthes wrote:
In post 2852, Nepenthes wrote:I asked you to explain your scumread on me in return
Norwee you have no reason not to answer this
I’m tired.
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Post Post #2923 (isolation #360) » Sun Sep 06, 2020 11:34 am

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Ok i’ll tell you.
It’s the posts i’ve been pointing out earlier. Your awkward PR claim. The fact that you don’t seem to have a focused scumread on anyone other than me. Not bothering with looking for associations on me even though you apparently scumread me so hard. Etc etc. I could go on.
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Post Post #2964 (isolation #361) » Mon Sep 07, 2020 2:28 am

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In post 2956, Waterdispenser wrote:PSA: It will be useful for investigatives to target me tonight.
Let's just say I have a few water bottles to give out.
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Post Post #2965 (isolation #362) » Mon Sep 07, 2020 2:30 am

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In post 2963, UnaBombaH wrote:But if you look at it from the "result-standpoint" so far - all they managed to do by bodyblocking the Sirius-lynch was multiple outed claims and a situation where no wagon seems to be able to gain momentum.
You’re blaming me for towns inability to do anything? Seriously? That’s like the dumbest shade i’ve ever seen.
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Post Post #2967 (isolation #363) » Mon Sep 07, 2020 2:30 am

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Ugh, it’s raining today. Curse that Norwegian Boy!
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Post Post #2970 (isolation #364) » Mon Sep 07, 2020 2:37 am

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I’ve played good, it’s just all other town that have bad reads.
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Post Post #2973 (isolation #365) » Mon Sep 07, 2020 3:49 am

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How many votes am i and Billy on?
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Post Post #2990 (isolation #366) » Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:45 am

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So am i hammered, because it looks like that’ll happen soon anyway.
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Post Post #2992 (isolation #367) » Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:48 am

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Ok, can i claim town and be believed now.
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Post Post #2996 (isolation #368) » Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:55 am

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I’m VT.
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Post Post #2998 (isolation #369) » Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:56 am

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And y’all are dumb.
How’s it going.
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Post Post #3000 (isolation #370) » Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:57 am

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This was my towniest game in existence.
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Post Post #3002 (isolation #371) » Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:57 am

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And i will rub it in with even more salt post-game.
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Post Post #3007 (isolation #372) » Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:59 am

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I hope scum wins because of this EPIC fail by town.
Feel bad 4ever.
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Post Post #3010 (isolation #373) » Mon Sep 07, 2020 10:04 am

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I’m just exaggerating now.
But it doesn’t shrink my feelings that this lynch SUCKS.
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Post Post #3011 (isolation #374) » Mon Sep 07, 2020 10:06 am

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In post 3008, Not_Mafia wrote:No one says epic failm anymore, this isn't 2009
I don’t think u were born at that time yet so why do u talk like u know so much about it.
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Post Post #3012 (isolation #375) » Mon Sep 07, 2020 10:10 am

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Maybe if i’d pulled a Nepenthes and fake claimed PR i would still be alive now.
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Post Post #3013 (isolation #376) » Mon Sep 07, 2020 10:15 am

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If we have a doc there’s no point protecting Not_Mafia btw. Scum would keep him alive to advance their wincon. Defend Foureyes instead.
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Post Post #3014 (isolation #377) » Mon Sep 07, 2020 10:19 am

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Scum players are S_S, Nepenthes, and probably one of Una/Zombie apocalypse.
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Post Post #3016 (isolation #378) » Mon Sep 07, 2020 10:23 am

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If someone like BP is lynched tommorow then i’ll scream from beyond the grave.
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Post Post #3018 (isolation #379) » Mon Sep 07, 2020 10:25 am

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Wut?
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Post Post #3019 (isolation #380) » Mon Sep 07, 2020 10:26 am

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Dude i was on a roll, don’t mess up my rythm like that waterchestnut.
Ur town, but GOD.
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Post Post #3020 (isolation #381) » Mon Sep 07, 2020 10:26 am

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Annoying~
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Post Post #3022 (isolation #382) » Mon Sep 07, 2020 10:32 am

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Here’s a tip for you Water.
If a town player is protecting 2 people you know are town from a lynch. They are most likely town.
I defended your slot, and BP who you TR.
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Post Post #3023 (isolation #383) » Mon Sep 07, 2020 10:35 am

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S_S and Nep both been online.
Busy in scum PT i assume.
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Post Post #3027 (isolation #384) » Mon Sep 07, 2020 10:43 am

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Truly.
Innocent blood was shed tonight.
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Post Post #3030 (isolation #385) » Mon Sep 07, 2020 10:45 am

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Impersonation isn’t nice.
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Post Post #3032 (isolation #386) » Mon Sep 07, 2020 10:45 am

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In post 3029, Not_Mafia wrote:That avatar is bad enough on person, we don't need another one
It’s better than seeing your floppy breasts.
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Post Post #3036 (isolation #387) » Mon Sep 07, 2020 10:48 am

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There can’t be 2 Norwees in the same game. The narcissism levels would overload the entire universe.
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Post Post #3038 (isolation #388) » Mon Sep 07, 2020 10:55 am

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Neat.
That’s like my 2nd favourite waifu in the touhou series.
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Post Post #3039 (isolation #389) » Mon Sep 07, 2020 10:58 am

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I really need to sleep now.
So gl i guess.
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Post Post #3042 (isolation #390) » Mon Sep 07, 2020 11:09 am

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I have faith in all of you.
Except NM, i have zero faith in him to salvage this game.
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Post Post #5727 (isolation #391) » Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:51 pm

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Nice save Worst!
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