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unfortunately if this is all there is I'm not sure that it's at all scum indicative for DGBIn post 661, Klick wrote:DGB is a viable wagon and its basically done nothing but say we should flip you.
geriantm can you explain further what you mean here? Are you scum reading Klick for this? Town reading me? I'm having trouble getting a grasp on what your stances are in this game because a lot of your posts feel like just straight up observationsIn post 676, geraintm wrote:Dannflor has come in and done their best to look townie, but they've got nothing to work with. Klick does seem really eager to spread their votes around though.
also while I feel this is true, I'm not getting the sense that everyone just has reasons to be townIn post 676, geraintm wrote:no one to me feels like they are obvious scum
I mean the speculating based on replace out is kinda dubious from a playing mafia as ethically as possible standpointIn post 709, Gretchen wrote:what do you mean?In post 695, Dannflor wrote:gretchen #594 is gross but that might mean town
In post 706, bugspray wrote:gerain sr on klick makes sense but could come from either perspective
I would wagon both of these slots but I'd wait on MM until they get a replacement I guessIn post 707, bugspray wrote:mm also looks scummy
would flipping my slot reveal anything particularly for you?In post 711, HypoSoc wrote:I am not reading your slot as particularly scummy, but I am willing to flip your slot based on what it would reveal for others. I never was on that wagon.In post 662, Dannflor wrote:HypSoc, I'm interested in how you've been reading my slot/my predecessors and what you think of the people wagoning me. From your ISO it's hard to tell what stance you have exactly on me.
That comment was in response to you crickets, because action WAS waiting on you. I was trying to give you an immediate summary so we could move on, rather than wait for 25 pages of analysis.
Can you walk me through why my scum flip means MM is more likely to be scum?In post 715, HypoSoc wrote:The two questions are related.In post 714, Dannflor wrote:would flipping my slot reveal anything particularly for you?
what are your strongest stances/reads in the game right now?
MiniMegabyte is my strongest scum read, and if your slot is scum, that would confirm it even more. I would rather vote of MM directly (which I am), but because most discussion has been on your slot, it would be informative. Nor have I gotten the impression that your slot is particularly important, if it turns out you are town, based on how the other players in your slot have reacted.
My strongest stance is believing Alice's claim. I take claims very seriously, and I've determined it's a believable one. I have also determined it is important to strongly and visibly show my support for this particular role claim, because players reactions to my declarations help inform my reads, and because player activity can influence night kills.
idk if I'm getting the same impressions from the doubling downIn post 717, RLotus wrote:At first I got scum feeling from HypoSoc in the way he was trusting in April's claim, because I thought it was clear that it wasn't a serious claim. It was as if he is scum that knows April is town. Then, several other people seemed to be taking April's claim seriously, so maybe not out of the ordinary after all? He is now doubling down on believing the claim, so maybe it is just scum.
i would agreeIn post 727, April Ludgate wrote:if dannfloor is town, and i die at night, kill gretchen
it's why people have tended to doubt it this gameIn post 726, HypoSoc wrote:I would be very annoyed that that information wasn't presented days ago. I'd probably be tempted to policy eliminate April. But I still townread her, so, I'd be conflicted.In post 721, Dannflor wrote:HypoSoc, what would you say if I could point you to games of both alignments by April where she's fake claimed IC? The only reason I'm not taking it seriously is because I know the history of that player and they do things like fake claim IC often
individually, sureIn post 737, Amélie wrote:Why is that unlikely?
One is Flavorleaf, extremely active and everyone thinks he is likely town for some unknown reason and the other two are people that barely talk.
why don't you want to playIn post 740, April Ludgate wrote:if i get nightkilled, awesome, i dont have to play
I have felt that I have a nebulous grasp on this game given I replaced in like 48 hours ago. I'm also not as careful with my vote as most people. I voted Alice because my most confident town read in Bugspray was voting there and wanted to start a wagon. and I didn't really have a better place to put it at the time.In post 748, geraintm wrote:@ Dann - i think i said earlier that i thought you had done the best you could replacing into the game considering the posistion you were in, but man...3 votes on one page on 3 different people looks bad. why must you do things like that?
you vote Rlotus for no obvious reason.
half an hour later you provide a reads list, rlotus is high in it and you vote someone else
half an hour later you vote for someone else who you had in your 2nd towniest tier?
I kinda already have if you've read my posts but I'll be more specific.
In post 484, MiniMegabyte wrote:I dont like how quickly that wagon formed on Da DudeIn post 339, Not_Mafia wrote:
for referenceIn post 499, MiniMegabyte wrote:Purely based on the wagon.In post 496, AliceK wrote:I am not sure what Mini wants to achieve here. His reads are very controversial. Why are you townreading entrapta/DaDude?
I find it really unlikely that scum would bus day one (I could be wrong but just my opinion) which leaves the wagon forming so quickly because scum found an opportunity for a wagon and jumped ahead with it.
If you all want to eliminate Da Dude go ahead but I won’t be on the wagon
what does this meanIn post 762, bugspray wrote:i believe dadude is town just from wagon dynamics
DGB who are your strongest town readsIn post 750, DrippingGoofball wrote:Saying that your wagon is townie is... scummy.
why wouldn't town do this if a wagon on their other scum read was getting more tractionIn post 792, geraintm wrote:this feels like someone dropping from a wagon that wasnt going anywhere to one that was gettign traction. don't like this
I actually really think clidd is town, where does this scum read stem from specifically?In post 798, Klick wrote:VOTE: Gretchen
I don't really have the motivation to show why clidd is scum more than I have atm and it seems clear that this isn't going anywhere
If Gretchen flips town it's worth looking at who said 'yeah clidd might be scum' and then didn't take up the chance to wagon him
a secret: scum know this looks surface level opportunistic and are more likely to *over explain* their votes than not explain at allIn post 808, geraintm wrote:i always dislike people who move votes around with no explanation
you are going to get scum read for 'incorrect' reasons in every single gameIn post 803, Gretchen wrote:but yeah, just so you know April, if you wanna know what killed my motivation and enthusiasm for this game, it was you saying that right at the start
btw did you crumb this at any pointIn post 802, Gretchen wrote:eh. town novice detective.
I've seen/read clidd as scum and I personally feel like the difference is night and day hereIn post 814, Klick wrote:Tbh I'm used to reading clidd as really obviously town and reading this game I'm getting like zero towntells from him. (I've not played against him being scum before)
is it because of the claimIn post 827, Klick wrote:We're not voting Gretchen today that's dumb
nopeIn post 858, geraintm wrote:have you ever played with me before? am i meant to fake hot takes and make pronouncements with 99% certainty?