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[Luca Blight]

You can sheep me but I can’t repay the favor?

[Luca Blight]

And don’t literally ask me again and again to join the wagon if you don’t want to be sheeped lol

[Luca Blight]

Datisi: Luca, sheep me on infinity

Luca: ok

Datisi: why are you sheeping me? Did you roll scum again?

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At least I know 100% that datisi is Town now

Pretty sure Icon is too

[Luca Blight]

I can’t say I find it particularly useful, but I appreciate the effort

[Luca Blight]

My limpool for today is {Samantha, S_S, Umlaut} in order of preference. Sam and S_S for reasons already stated and Umlaut because my TR's are on that wagon and I'm mostly null on that slot.

i'm rereading and again. *how* is this something that comes from a town mindset. like the main driver of the umlaut wagon is his strongest scumread. how is this anything other than an ass-pull??

can literally *anyone* please acknowledge this post and tell me their opinion on it

I think that mindset is fine from the perspective that a) he could be wrong about his biggest SR or b) bussing/distancing is a thing and maybe c) wanting to create unity with his townreads

[Luca Blight]

Datisi, how can I interest you in an Anya vote?

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Is this a scum-driven effort to save Outworld?

Spoiler:

You know what, we’ve screwed this by waiting too long

I don’t want to lim someone without a claim D1

VOTE: Outworld

Let’s just do this. We have a lot of info from today anyway

VOTE: outworlder

Also the "Maybe Rathe wont be around" argument isnt strong. He has posted between current time and deadline for five straight real life days if my count is right (for me going back to Sunday evening with deadline being near midnight this Friday)

he claims pr with like one hour to deadline

what do

no yeet lol

VOTE: outworld

someone fucking kill me i can't sleep this game is giving me anxiety

VOTE: Rathe

i got impatient

i can switch to bunny later if needed i'll be around

I'm counting Rathe at 5, Infinity and OW both at 3, Llama at 2.

VOTE: Rathe
That's -1

[Luca Blight]

I get the feeling Llama/Umlaut are of the same alignment

There was no resistance to either's lim apart from each other

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Anya puts Outworld to E-1 on the back of my case, and straight away unvotes and switches to Rathe following the VT claim

who is even wolf in this game Infinity

why is the bunny claiming vanilla town and posting what looks like a final post like he doesn't care if he dies

he's supposed to be wolf

VOTE: Rathe

can you also give me a townread while you're at it bunny

[Luca Blight]

Umlaut/Outworld as partners also makes a lot of sense, given how Umlaut has continuously tried to steer away from Outworld's lim despite not particularly TR'ing him

umlaut why aren't you voting anyone

Not keen on the OutworldER wagon and didn't see a serious alternative (other than myself, which I'm also not so keen on)

I still don't, but on a hunch I'm going to
VOTE: Infinity

They've established a pattern, with Llama and with me, of quietly supporting wagons while inviting others to take responsibility for them, and I don't like it. Want to get more attention on this.

[Luca Blight]

ok i'm in Luca

VOTE: Infinity

I don't get why she said 'I'm in Luca' here when I was still pursuing an Outworld lim at this time

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Outworld's posts were really ineffectual, but after I prodded him for more he finally delivered a decent post in 1324

but the problem is these 'decent' posts have been few and far between. Scum can fake stuff like that when the absolutely need to, but it's effort to do it consistently, and consistency is seriously lacking from Outworld this game

And bear in mind I read Outworld as 'obvtown' in the game we were in together last. He wasn't high activity there either but his posts were so much better generally.

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I kind of feel like Umlaut is only scum here if the team is exactly something like {Umlaut, Outworld, Llama/Anya}

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I think Outworld/Anya are the best bet of actually hitting scum today

VOTE: Anya

[Luca Blight]

Actually no, I'm more confident on this

VOTE: Outworld

[Luca Blight]

Man, I'm so conflicted right now. Too many scumreads

Infinity 324 (5) Andresvmb, Datisi, Luca Blight, Umlaut, Iconeum
Datisi (1) samantha97
Samantha97 (2): Llamafluff, OutworldER
llamafluff (4) koto, Rathe, Anya, Infinity 324

Not Voting (1): Something_Smart

This wagon on Infinity is *probably* all-town. I think we just need a flip or at least a claim from this slot and then go from there.

VOTE: Infinity

[Luca Blight]

On lunch break. Might actually try and take a little time off at end of day so I can commit more time here and then just work a few hours tomorrow to make up that time.

Why is Infinity a wagon again? I would pretty much vote the entire game with very few exceptions instead of them based on current reads, and similarly would be willing to snap wagon just about anywhere else. Yeah we need to push something through today, but everyone seems way to comfortable with gamestate which just increases my thoughts that Infinity is something scum are fine with happening so they are town. Not claiming unless absolutely needed, less scum know the better.

aaaa does llama do that as scum

This actually seems a pretty weak reason to suddenly flip your read and push in a completely different direction

Like if you were already so sure of Llama being scum, why would 2064 particularly move you? I get Llama isn't being opportunistic or jumping to save his own skin, but he's isn't exactly taking a hard stance either

I guess s/s is possible, or just a calculated move on Infinity's part in order to gain towncred?

[Luca Blight]

SS, how about you lay down a vote

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SS, do you agree with the {Luca, Datisi, Icon} townbloc?

Talk to me about your reads a bit more in general as I don't know where you stand right now, other than that you TR Infinity and possibly SL Samantha?

[Luca Blight]

this game is impossible
too many scummy fuckers
and those that aren't necessarily scummy insist on not providing content
if we have even one deepwolf we are so fucked lol

I'm starting to wish I actually was scum this game

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I will say that SS feels pretty much identical to the game I just played with him where he was scum

Idk if his town and scum game is just very similar, if he's scum or if I'm just bad at reading him

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I'm ok limming any of Infinity, Outworld, Anya

We should decide between these three today imo

[Luca Blight]

On lunch break. Might actually try and take a little time off at end of day so I can commit more time here and then just work a few hours tomorrow to make up that time.

Why is Infinity a wagon again? I would pretty much vote the entire game with very few exceptions instead of them based on current reads, and similarly would be willing to snap wagon just about anywhere else. Yeah we need to push something through today, but everyone seems way to comfortable with gamestate which just increases my thoughts that Infinity is something scum are fine with happening so they are town. Not claiming unless absolutely needed, less scum know the better.

aaaa does llama do that as scum

This actually seems a pretty weak reason to suddenly flip your read and push in a completely different direction

Like if you were already so sure of Llama being scum, why would 2064 particularly move you? I get Llama isn't being opportunistic or jumping to save his own skin, but he's isn't exactly taking a hard stance either

I guess s/s is possible, or just a calculated move on Infinity's part in order to gain towncred?

this is unfair, luca
i remember you making a huge push day 1 and dropping your scumread whole over a single.post

Maybe, but that was actually a decent post though with some real consideration behind it

Llama in 2064 was continuing to do what he did with the other wagons that nearly went through - theorizing about a lack of resistance without really taking a hard stance, and yet Infinity flipped her read based on that just because he wasn't immediately jumping on her

In of itself it doesn't seem enough to me to flip your read in such a way? Idk, I'm just trying to make sense of scum!Infinity in my head

[Luca Blight]

I do believe the Infinity wagon D1 was likely all-town, so either she is scum or scum did a good job of creating the illusion of resistance

Independently I SR Outworld/Anya more, but Infinity is a worthy flip to find out what was going on EoD1

[Luca Blight]

funny how datisi mentions deepwolfing and i just instantly think of him and luca

haha

ico: paranoiaing luca/datisi scumteam
datisi: paranoiaing luca/ico scumteam

luca please tell me you're paranoiaing me/ico scumteam so that the triangle is complete

Alas I wish I could, but you've obvtowned to the nth degree already

Icon could possibly be a deepwolf? but I'm not seeing it right now

[Luca Blight]

s_s, what about the "townspewing" was townie? i remember reading it and being wholy unimpressed

Just the fact that she thought it might work at all. She doesn't really strike me as the type to attempt something like that as scum?

Are you basing that on previous experience with her?

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am I being dumb by townreading OWER for a VT claim with no daytalk?

Wait, there's no day talk?

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I just read the OP, it says no default daytalk, which means there it's not a given either way

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am I being dumb by townreading OWER for a VT claim with no daytalk?

Wait, there's no day talk?

ping ping ping ping ping ping ping

I'm glad you noticed my townslip

[Luca Blight]

there was a vt claim?

Hey, this town isn't big enough for TWO townslips

[Luca Blight]

am I being dumb by townreading OWER for a VT claim with no daytalk?

Why would you TR this anyway?

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And why would you assume there's no day talk

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I talked so much about limming the claimed VT, do you not read my posts? lol

[Luca Blight]

If the townbloc decides there shall be a claim, there

shall

be a claim

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Datisi, on a scale of 1-10 how do you rate Icon's townslip?

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I'm still holding out hope that was actually a scumslip by SS

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It's funny how SS disappeared after making that comment

[Luca Blight]

If the townbloc decides there shall be a claim, there

shall

be a claim

i don't like this

luca when did you become funny

I guess when I got a nice green role pm? It tends to have that effect after previously rolling scum

Or perhaps your humor is rubbing off on me

[Luca Blight]

Spoiler: For Icon's eyes only

shh, don't ruin my pocketing attempt

[Luca Blight]

Datisi you wouldn't break my heart here would you?

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Any thoughts on my SS scumslip theory?

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Datisi you wouldn't break my heart here would you?

i hate you

i hope you know that right?

I can feel your desire for revenge, yes

So maybe I'm glad I'm town here after all

[Luca Blight]

Btw Datisi you didn't

actually

answer the question

[Luca Blight]

i don't forget when someone snows me, luca

i will roll scum against you one day

you can see how that worked out for the town of 2195

pedit: fuck you i'm going home

I doubt you'll ever snow me the way I snowed you

No harm in dreaming though, I guess

g2g now

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Why would you TR this anyway?

Because scum would want to make a claim that would have a chance of saving them from dying?

but..Outworld didn't die, and his claim helped in that

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I'm not sure right now. I guess there would be more chance of something like {Umlaut, Llama, Outworld} being possible.

I'll be suspicious of SS regardless of flip, maybe even more so if it flips red. I want to believe Llama is town tbh as I'm really struggling for townreads here

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Same question to you, Datisi?

Oh wait I remember, you'll SR me if this flips town right

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If this flips red then I think the game will be solvable from there

If it flips green then we're in a bad spot quite frankly as there are so many dubious slots and little to separate them

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I'm not sure right now. I guess there would be more chance of something like {Umlaut, Llama, Outworld} being possible.

I'll be suspicious of SS regardless of flip, maybe even more so if it flips red. I want to believe Llama is town tbh as I'm really struggling for townreads here

disagree. don't think s_s ever does a bus like this - why would he? it's obvious there's not enough support against infinity without him. he could just as easily throw his weight against someone from umlaut/llama/anya, especially as he's been calling infinity townie.

You don’t think SS ever busses like this?

Well I can prove you wrong pretty easily as he did so in the game I just played with him - he needlessly bussed his partner on D2 last game despite townies defending said partner. In this instance his hand has been forced a bit anyway

[Luca Blight]

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=86100

Here is the game in question

Ali was being hard pushed, I was hard-pushing Skitter and was set to compromise on Ali. SS busses his partner and maintains the vote until the lim.

That was a truly needless bus. In this instance with infinity SS has been persuaded onto it

He also said the same comment about his partner in both games (that they posted something he liked). It’s uncanny

[Luca Blight]

His partner being Farkran* I should have stated

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fairly solidly townreading luca at this point

god i wish i could claim this with any sorta confidence

I wish you could read me as well as I can read you

:(

[Luca Blight]

Same question to you, Datisi?

Oh wait I remember, you'll SR me if this flips town right

i don't know.

i think infinity flipping town would be a solid(?) towncase on llama - because if llama were scum, putting infinity on Y-1 would make more sense than going onto rathe. unless the team is like, something like luca/umlaut/llama? in which case i don't even know.

So basically you think Llama is only scum with Infinity

Couldn’t you use the same reasoning for Infinity? Or am I missing something here

[Luca Blight]

A big part of me just wants to lim Outworld

Btw my reads were pretty shit in that other game with SS which is why I’m lacking conviction a little here

[Luca Blight]

I agree we need to get this claim regardless

[Luca Blight]

how the fuck were you fighting this hard for an infinity wagon, only to see it finally happen and then start talking about bailing out?

Such is life I guess, you only want what you can’t have

When you finally get it it seems unsatisfying

[Luca Blight]

Imagine my anxiety knowing that a green flip here means I’ll feel the full force of Datisi’s wrath tomorrow

[Luca Blight]

If it’s wrong you’ll just have to shout at me and I’ll just have to make some sad smiley faces until you’re sufficiently pocketed

and then we can get back to solving the game

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I don’t think either of us will be killed if this flips green

Every cloud has a silver lining

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Tbf I felt the same pressure when the Outworld lim was looming large

and when the Llama lim was looming large

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Ffs

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That’s why I was hesitant to put infinity to E-1 earlier, I could feel this was going to happen

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Even if this flips red I think Anya is likely scum

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We had what, 5 days left?

If you’re Town then you’ve made scum’s life a lot easier

[Luca Blight]

I can’t read you?

I had you locked as Town from eod1

[Luca Blight]

More like

you

can’t read

me

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Well done Icon, good performance tbf

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I'm like 99.9999% sure that at least one of Datisi/Icon are scum

Tbf I called it

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I picked up on the fact Icon was mailman Eod1 and I treated him as Town because of it D2

A really weird setup this one