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[humaneatingmonkey]

hello fellow town how do you do dont mind me I'm just towning about

[humaneatingmonkey]

i feel so good rolling town i hope i catch scum !

[humaneatingmonkey]

i don't want to vote so early but the scum could be anyone!

[humaneatingmonkey]

i guess i'm just gonna vote for the Mod for making me town! i wanted so bad to be scum

[humaneatingmonkey]

VOTE: OutWorldER I hope you learned your lesson!

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hahaha i love amongus!

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i like the color blue i will use this as my personal color it's different than the mod

[humaneatingmonkey]

Monkey, if you missed the memo, we're out of fluff already. Who is your strongest townread?

I don't have any townreads because anybody could be scum!

[humaneatingmonkey]

Monkey, if you missed the memo, we're out of fluff already. Who is your strongest townread?

I don't have any townreads because anybody could be scum!

Yes, but anyone could be town.

i am town

[humaneatingmonkey]

Monkey, if you missed the memo, we're out of fluff already. Who is your strongest townread?

I don't have any townreads because anybody could be scum!

Yes, but anyone could be town.

i am town

EBWOP

i am town

[humaneatingmonkey]

Hello Hectic

[humaneatingmonkey]

anti-town

[humaneatingmonkey]

Seanzie is not fake helpful, he's just the synonym of frantic (wink wink). They usually have 2-serious-2-soon openings that are meant to be funny in an ironic way or provocative that those unfamiliar would react to them. Right, Seanzie? Confirm if I'm right.

[humaneatingmonkey]

anti-town fart noises

[humaneatingmonkey]

strongest scumreads cyrus and boxxy. seanzie depends on whether or not he's full of life, spirit, energy, or movement

[humaneatingmonkey]

everyone else is out of my radar

anti-town fart noises

[humaneatingmonkey]

Seanzie answer me senpai

[humaneatingmonkey]

seems legit

anti-town fart noises

[humaneatingmonkey]

this is just noise preventing us from doing actual scumhunting.

he said, with trumpets and fanfare

[humaneatingmonkey]

Seanzie answer me senpai

Answer you about what?

are you excited frenzied heated fervid agitated overwrought

[humaneatingmonkey]

Hectic, Seanzie. Are you Hectic?

[humaneatingmonkey]

bdsm_ultimate_detective

i laughed out loud

anti-town fart noises

[humaneatingmonkey]

VOTE: boxxy

lean on this

[humaneatingmonkey]

> Seanzie is dishonest
> votes nomnomnom for "anti-town behavior"

[humaneatingmonkey]

>monkey is anti-town and should be lynched
>hahaha i was just saying that just in case!

[humaneatingmonkey]

hahahahahahaha you thought i thought he thought that you thought i thought he thought hahahahahaha im not scum obviously XD XD XD

[humaneatingmonkey]

let's do boxxy guys. it's a good wagon

[humaneatingmonkey]

Boxxy's wagon in the near future.

[humaneatingmonkey]

cyrus, what's your read on boxxy?

[humaneatingmonkey]

let's do boxxy guys. it's a good wagon

This is a super weird take? I've liked boxxy's posting a lot. I'm still trying to figure out nom though. I don't know if nom withholding the tell is inherently scummy but I'd really like to hear it if it's going to be justifying a scum read this early especially when it feels like cyrus town-slipped.

Ugh don't make me effort.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Boxxy's posts aren't good. TL;DR Boxxy is positioning himself to be the town's lord and savior from these anti-town scrubs and he's gonna scumhunt the scum to infinity and beyond. I read this as scum who's trying to score towncred. This is not how town actually score towncred. Town score towncred by making an effort in actually sorting slots. But in fact, he's done the opposite — he's reading into things very superficially and focuses much more on keeping the 'tegridy of much tuhwn.

[humaneatingmonkey]

> Seanzie is dishonest
> votes nomnomnom for "anti-town behavior"

>monkey is anti-town and should be lynched
>hahaha i was just saying that just in case!

[humaneatingmonkey]

Proof: Proof

[humaneatingmonkey]

let's do boxxy guys. it's a good wagon

This is a super weird take? I've liked boxxy's posting a lot. I'm still trying to figure out nom though. I don't know if nom withholding the tell is inherently scummy but I'd really like to hear it if it's going to be justifying a scum read this early especially when it feels like cyrus town-slipped.

his reaction to me deliberately withholding my tell feels like a lot of pretending, and tbh monkey pointed out the posts earlier that are just not consistent with a town mindset
I believe town!boxxy never actually votes me there for not posting a tell. Think he's scum trying to sell frustrated town to us.

boxy isnt scum. with me dont belive nom he told me he would bus me then jump to some one else .

lmao im just trolling to lol. or am i.

GG Town

[humaneatingmonkey]

I really needed a game like this thanks guys

[humaneatingmonkey]

BOXXY WAGON HYPE

[humaneatingmonkey]

I'm just seeing trolling. I'll look for the monkey posts.

you can do both

[humaneatingmonkey]

I'm inviting monkey for a date in a restaurant after this game btw

let's go

[humaneatingmonkey]

In my last game a troll poster posted _literally_ nothing. I feared that would be the case here with monkey. Then they posted a few legit posts so I moved on from that. If you find that scummy well then gg I guess.

who is the troll poster

[humaneatingmonkey]

I think you changed your mind to avoid the pressure which is scummy imo.

UNVOTE: Seanzie

VOTE: boxxy

In my last game a troll poster posted _literally_ nothing. I feared that would be the case here with monkey. Then they posted a few legit posts so I moved on from that. If you find that scummy well then gg I guess.

Mention the posts you think are legit.

Welcome to the townblock, Salsabil Faria. There's a $250 membership fee. We accept Visa or Mastercard.

[humaneatingmonkey]

It was Not_Mafia

How has that game changed you?

[humaneatingmonkey]

I'm trying to sort nom right now because our views on boxxxy are so incongruent

just why do you like boxxy so much?

[humaneatingmonkey]

The Dwlee I know would take this wagon and run with it until he has a better read

[humaneatingmonkey]

You are not the Dwlee I know. Who are you?

[humaneatingmonkey]

I'm trying to sort nom right now because our views on boxxxy are so incongruent

just why do you like boxxy so much?

I feel like boxxy is trying to move the game forward and made good objections to nom's push without claiming the tell. I got the same exact same "oh trust me we'll kill cyrus and then I'll tell you why we did it" vibes from nom.

making good objections and moving the game forward can also come from scum, btw. but please, tell me what these move the game forward moments were and what the good objections were. what's your read on nom? have you considered what i told you about boxxy?

[humaneatingmonkey]

Boxxy's posts aren't good. TL;DR Boxxy is positioning himself to be the town's lord and savior from these anti-town scrubs and he's gonna scumhunt the scum to infinity and beyond. I read this as scum who's trying to score towncred. This is not how town actually score towncred. Town score towncred by making an effort in actually sorting slots. But in fact, he's done the opposite — he's reading into things very superficially and focuses much more on keeping the 'tegridy of much tuhwn.

> Seanzie is dishonest
> votes nomnomnom for "anti-town behavior"

>monkey is anti-town and should be lynched
>hahaha i was just saying that just in case!

this is just noise preventing us from doing actual scumhunting.

he said, with trumpets and fanfare

[humaneatingmonkey]

ssbm_Kyouko just ninja'd my thoughts re: Boxxxy scumreading Monkey, and I think that is a good look since Monkey is an easy push right now. I'd still like to hear ssbm_Kyouko's response to those reads they gave that I asked them about, but I'm giving this slot a townlean.

But scums offen try to go for easy push(es)??

Yes, Boxxxy went for the easy push and ssbm_Kyouko questioned Boxxxy about it, which looks good for ssbm_Kyouko.

This feels like a reach, and possibly dishonest. Cause I didn't even vote monkey, i just said I support a policy lim at end of day if they don't contribute more.

I'll share it, promise! Just not right now, it's too early to reveal my secrets, and as I said, it's a hassle and a half to explain and I wouldn't want to get in the way of your scumhunting, right?
However you can trust me. 90% sure Cyrus is scum here

VOTE: nomnomnom


In other news monkey moves to slight townlean.

jesus christ that was 6 pages in no time.

rvs votes dont mean nothing for one for

two im a wild card . so i tend to make games wild

. you seem to be trying to hard relax and have fun gee. we just started . you will see me casting votes every where when i think people are scum . even when i said they were town. plus no two games of mine are the same.

wild cards are anti-town, calling yourself feels like trying to pre-deflect any scum reads people get of your plays.

VOTE: cyrus62

Also another name for this game is "werewolf" where the 'werewofl" or "wolf" is the mafia. Not entirely convinced that your wolf outrage was genuine.


My scumreads:

cyrus92
monkee

Townreads:

seanzie

Rest are null

Re: humaneatingmonkey

troll players are anti-town

i see kerset as more lay back town to be honest i wont vote them yet.

What is laid back town about Kerset?

Re: humaneatingmonkey

troll players are anti-town

Anti-town is not the same as scum. Quite early in the Day for policy as well which is what monkey would be at this point

Yeah yeah, I've had this argument many times in the past. In my experience people playing anti-town are more likely to flip scum.

Additionally I just dislike playing against troll players and will always policy them until the meta changes and we don't people to troll their way to day 2. So let it be known I support a policy on monkee unless they contribute more before end of day.

Cause I didn't even vote monkey, i just said I support a policy lim at end of day if they don't contribute more.

[humaneatingmonkey]

here comes the spoon, Dwlee. it's an airplane. wide and open, chew and swallow so you grow up big and strong.

[humaneatingmonkey]

DWLEE!!!

Boxxy is scum, part 1
Boxxy is scum, part 2

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this is just noise preventing us from doing actual scumhunting.

he said, with trumpets and fanfare

What did you even mean by this?

He's trying hard to announce his towniness. NAI by itself, but with the context of how he's behaving, it's scum behavior.

[humaneatingmonkey]

There are so many quotes and I've read them and I'm just not following. Can I have literally any annotation on these? It hurts my eyes trying to navigate these quote walls

Homie just ISO me please

[humaneatingmonkey]

Is it just cyrus-boxxy-dwlee that's why dwlee is trying so hard to play blind with me? I just called his townread scum. Wouldn't he be interested? Is he delaying until the next opportunity he can to strategize with this buddies?

[humaneatingmonkey]

"Oh you think Boxxy is scum? I think he's town because he's moving the game and shit. Oh you have reasons to suspect he's scum? I can't read them despite how you've organized it for me and despite that fact that I can just ISO you or click the post links to read the posts. Sorry bro. Boxxy is still town for me."

I hope you have time to cha-cha with me later.

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See I'll explain to you the difference between you and boxxy, dwlee, since it seems the reason you townread boxxy at this point is because you mindmeld with him about me not sharing my tell.
You have a good reason to ask for my tell and be annoyed that I won't reveal it because you think cyrus townslipped earlier and you think he's town, so you have a good reason to ask a player that has claimed has a scumtell on that same player.
Boxxy on the other hand has absolutely no reason to be annoyed with me because he scumread cyrus by default. At best he sees it that we agree on cyrus being scum, and at worst he's slightly annoyed that I won't reveal my tell, which is understandable. However voting me is an absolute scumclaim in this situation because it makes no sense within his progression and it just feels like he's trying to sell this read as voting what he considers to be anti-town, when he has established beforehand he has scumreads, on cyrus nonetheless. This is not a scumhunting mindset. Boxxy just isn't town here.

i will high five you, but only if you're town

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If I wasn't interested I wouldn't be having this conversation at all. I don't gain anything from unannotated quote walls. It's not how I play the game. If I'm not seeing the pattern I'm not seeing it which is why I'm asking you to actually explain it rather than just post walls of quotes.

Okay Dwlee fair enough I will effort much further and put everything in a wall that has 0 subquotes. Would that be good?

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Okay I will do this

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Boxxy's posts aren't good. TL;DR Boxxy is positioning himself to be the town's lord and savior from these anti-town scrubs and he's gonna scumhunt the scum to infinity and beyond. I read this as scum who's trying to score towncred. This is not how town actually score towncred. Town score towncred by making an effort in actually sorting slots. But in fact, he's done the opposite — he's reading into things very superficially and focuses much more on keeping the 'tegridy of muh tuhwn.

Corroborating evidence: #200 (and my comment #208)

He also did this:
> Seanzie is dishonest
> votes nomnomnom for "anti-town behavior"
Reference: #222

He also did this:
>monkey is anti-town and should be lynched
>hahaha i was just saying that just in case!
Reference: #149 → #151 → #172 → #222 (the first part)

That's just my complaint. There's a lot of tickets from noms and Salsabil too.

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I figured you were implying that him finding HEM's posting "legit" was scummy, which I don't agree with at all.

I think there was no reason for someone who strongly thought I was a troll player think that I have reached a level of substance with the things I was posting at the time he cleared me. I was still not explaining my reads. But he was quick to townlean.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Summary of the case on me seems to be that I have too many scumreads.

Narrator: This was not the summary of the case on him.

[humaneatingmonkey]

@monkey: At the start of the game I feared you were going to post literally nothing like N_M, so yeah I stated my support of a policy lim to hopefully get you posting. Once you started I moved you to slight townlean. I didn't "clear" you, I just removed the only thing that put you in the scum box. I honestly don't get why you find this so objectionable.

Ok so what was so towny about my before #222

[humaneatingmonkey]

UNVOTE: for now

Boxxy: There's scum in my wagon!

Nomnomnom is in his wagon.

Boxxy: Unvote for now!

[humaneatingmonkey]

UNVOTE:

[humaneatingmonkey]

but associatives

[humaneatingmonkey]

don't you like to catch scum through associatives

[humaneatingmonkey]

i agree that everyone should have the opportunity to defend or condemn boxxy here

[humaneatingmonkey]

well... it's obviously boxxy and cyrus. that third partner can still be out there.

[humaneatingmonkey]

It overwhelmed the rest of the thread in a way that reduced the ability for others to interact and give input and limited the free formation of reads.

are you not free to form your reads? is the formation of reads not free enough?

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inb4 "The people that I didn't want to scumread are being scumread"

[humaneatingmonkey]

Why? Were you not interested in my posts? Were you not reading through me if I'm scum or town? Or anyone else that has posted?

[humaneatingmonkey]

What's ridiculous in my posts, Dwlee? I'm playing the game.

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In fact, I played it so hard I caught 2 scum, and possible 3.

[humaneatingmonkey]

I'm getting scummy vibes from seanzie atm

Same

[humaneatingmonkey]

Me and at least one other person have said your posts have been hard to parse or understand and you're being unusually sassy about it

I'll explain post-game if you really want to, but if my posts have been hard-to-parse, I've already adjusted with a one-post no-quote breakdown. I assumed you've read that.

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My issue before was you just quoted a series of posts and expected me to fit your exact brain spot together by myself which I don't think is reasonable.

Those series of posts were also posts by me that explained those other quotes. I'm gonna guess you didn't even attempt to read it, and I understand.

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Dwlee, you should understand, Seanzie could be scum trying to sympathize with your dislike for my formatting to say that i was scum and to invalidate the case against boxxy. have you considered that?

[humaneatingmonkey]

Seanzie made a comment that I was hard to follow, even after the point that I've already laid it out.

If you've read my ISO, Dwlee, I've already put words into my stuff before. I've already broken this down. You just missed it.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Boxxy's progression in the quoted posts:

#149: Monkey is a scumread.

#151: trolling is anti-town.

#172: Anti-town is more likely to flip scum. I don't like trolls.

#222: I didn't vote Monkey, but I said I support a policy elim on them.

You think this is a reasonable progression? He said that he thinks I will flip scum, but recants that he wasn't actually thinking that I was scum — only a troll? And then townleans me out of nowhere?

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This is an oversimplication of that post. Boxxy said I was reaching, and possibly dishonest. I don't think this is bad from Boxxy since while I had townread ssbm_Kyouko's response to Boxxy's scumread of Monkey, I didn't actually think Boxxy having that scumread was AI, simply that I liked ssbm_Kyouko's thoughts. From Boxxy's perspective, I think them thinking that was reaching and possibly dishonest is reasonable.

So if he thought you were possibly dishonest (possibly scummy, in this game where you're trying to catch liars), why wouldn't he have voted you and instead voted someone who he thought was anti-town? If his "anti-town is scum" reads were only as shallow that immediately he can write it off as a town-lean, why would he vote an anti-town player vs someone who he thought was actually dishonest?

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Seanzie could be scum trying to sympathize with your dislike for my formatting to say that i was scum and to invalidate the case against boxxy. have you considered that?

No, I quoted my previous explanations for it as well.

Did I miss Sean saying you were scum for it? I don't think the way you formatted those posts invalidate the argument so if scum!Sean is trying to do this I feel like it'll be wildly unsuccessful.

You're witnessing it right now. And GOOD that it doesn't invalidate the argument.

No, I know you've done it since. My point was that the earlier stuff was hard for me to follow and understand and you're being very stubborn about it and I don't get why.

I wasn't being very stubborn about it. I adjusted for you. Look at this well formatted post!

How about you? What's your deal here? If nothing, let's be cool and you can be annoyed at me later.

[humaneatingmonkey]

EBWOP

I did attempt to read it and I'm p sure you just quoted like ten boxxy posts in a row with no comments

No, I quoted my previous explanations for it as well.

[humaneatingmonkey]

183 was not useless. I never said it was excellent, but it was enough to move you out of the "complete troll" category.

What?! So people are just townleans for you by default? Because I'm no longer scum for being a troll, so now I must be a townlean right?

PLUS What's not so terrible about 183 in your perspective? What's so inherently townie about this that gives me a slight nudge towards that direction?

Seanzie is not fake helpful, he's just the synonym of frantic (wink wink). They usually have 2-serious-2-soon openings that are meant to be funny in an ironic way or provocative that those unfamiliar would react to them. Right, Seanzie? Confirm if I'm right.

Work with me here.

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Why did you leave out the part of this where I actually talk about the progression? You have a helluva lot of agenda about you right now.

Ahh so you hate me for quoting walls but now I'm FULL of agenda for making my quotes efficient.

You have a helluva lot of agenda about you right now

[humaneatingmonkey]

Are you implying nomnomom is scum?

I'm implying nomnomnom was your scumread, and you unvoted her even though you thought there was scum in your wagon

[humaneatingmonkey]

monkey you're tunneled bro. You argument continues to be "why did he one person when he also said somebody else could be scummy." From now on I'll try to talk about only one thing at a time so you don't get confused okay?

Narrator: That's not monkey's argument at all.

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You're also not just making your quotes efficient, you are removing parts that don't fit your narrative. When I gave an analysis on a progression, then you quote the progression but not the analysis and ask me what I think of the progression as if I hadn't already given some thoughts, that is not okay with me. Do you have questions about my analysis or do you just want me to repeat it for you?

So what did I leave out that made it conform to me agenda then? Tell me.

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Also, include your answer — because you dodged the question

[humaneatingmonkey]

It's a progression. It's a sudden flip on a series of reads that he made. One thing making it bad does not make it fine.

Cropping that out barely changed my point.

[humaneatingmonkey]

ssbm, I want to see Almost50. I /ined to the game for him.

[humaneatingmonkey]

I appreciate the intent and I will flashlynch as soon as everyone has posted.

[humaneatingmonkey]

boxxy, if you can, claim

[humaneatingmonkey]

Seanzie, he townleaned me out of nowhere from #222. My posts before #222 were horseshit.

[humaneatingmonkey]

I'm not even saying you're necessarily wrong, but the way you are casing is bad. You are subjecting everything to a narrative that doesn't necessarily exist. You insert your own strengthenings when it suits you to strengthen and ignore tonal doubt when it doesn't suit you.

Stop projecting.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Apology accepted.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Forcing a claim this early with a trash case. gg no re.

I'm a roaming detective, so if we have any sort of doc protection tonight would be appreciated, assuming i make it that far.

can you explain the mechanics of your role?

i knew it was gonna be some bullshit like this

[humaneatingmonkey]

hahahahahaha what was that Seanzie

[humaneatingmonkey]

No :O Please explain the mechanics of your role

[humaneatingmonkey]

And what's a detective?

[humaneatingmonkey]

Okay, but what's a detective? I want to believe you

[humaneatingmonkey]

Detective is an investigative role that checks if their target has made a kill or not I think.

Is this true boxxy??? Are you really a roaming detective, and this is your role mechanic???

[humaneatingmonkey]

I'm feeling full of regrets right now

[humaneatingmonkey]

Oh no a roaming detective

[humaneatingmonkey]

I'm so sad right now

[humaneatingmonkey]

I'm such an idiot baka

[humaneatingmonkey]

tears are rolling down my cheek and REM - Losing My Religion is playing somewhere in the background

[humaneatingmonkey]

no shit Seanzie

[humaneatingmonkey]

cyrus what do you think about boxxy right now? i want to believe his claim but maybe you can convince me

[humaneatingmonkey]

its not very good to accidentally eliminate a town pr. so maybe you believe it?

[humaneatingmonkey]

you think someone would do that? go in a mafia game and lie?

this is unthinkable

[humaneatingmonkey]

I moded a game and never seen that role. I think the role is real.

Hmm

[humaneatingmonkey]

i dont know i think cyrus is telling the truth!

[humaneatingmonkey]

i really dont like liars cyrus so can you please promise me that the role is real

[humaneatingmonkey]

if you promise me i will shut up

[humaneatingmonkey]

See im just. Makeing matters worse. If you want to lynch i or go for it . Now that they claimed scum will most likely kill them any way. Just saying.

worse for who, cyrus?

[humaneatingmonkey]

oh no!

[humaneatingmonkey]

i really hate it when my phone does that

[humaneatingmonkey]

are you sad for box, cyrus

[humaneatingmonkey]

why am i scummy cyrus? im trying to talk to you because i want to believe box

[humaneatingmonkey]

i dont want to lynch town pr

[humaneatingmonkey]

okay so if it's not box who would you vote for? who is scum? i want to follow you

[humaneatingmonkey]

at the top of your head, no need for cases, cyrus. who do you think is most likely to be scum if it's not box?

[humaneatingmonkey]

Interesting interesting

[humaneatingmonkey]

Good night guys

[humaneatingmonkey]

how do you see that playing out, bdsm?

[humaneatingmonkey]

good to see you, lesser simian.

[humaneatingmonkey]

I would like to point out that Boxxy didn't even know or explain what the role mechanic of the Detective was. He went straight to AtE. Seanzie had to "Um, Actually" the whole thing by defining Detective himself, thinking I was born yesterday. This is the most bullshit claim I've ever heard.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Boxxy, instead of using his claim as an opportunity to reassert himself as town, just went straight to AtE at E-2 with no threat of elimination (I have been vocal about not eliminating anyone before everyone has chipped in). If that's not scum caving to pressure, I don't know what is.

Cyrus defense of Boxxy that "He couldn't lie just like that!" is absolutely horrendous as well.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Add to that, Boxxy still has no viable answer against the hastiness of my townlean, the incongruency of his scumhunting, and his LAMIST posturing.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Hello monkey1. Do you think Cyrus is evil? I feel pretty good about catching the townslip and I'd like to hear your thoughts if you disagree. 3 is still not E-1 in a newbie but the explanation of "oh I thought I was in a newbie" is the slip.

Is this addressed to me? Cyrus can still be scum who forgot about how many players it needs to elim him, but the pressure of being possibly in E-1 gave him a panic. The amount of players it needs to eliminate you is shared information by scum and town, not just town. You can make this mistake as town, and you can still make this mistake as scum.

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Oh you're right. He just says he got used to newbies. I'm still wondering if it is town-indicative because the 3 scum thing would remind you that it isn't a newbie but also there could be a traitor and that could make him think he is in a newbie scum team?

the 12 player VC could also remind him that it isn't a newbie, or the "it takes 7 to eliminate" can also remind him that it isn't a newbie, or the "mini normal 2216" in the top of the thread could also remind him that it isn't a newbie. i wouldn't hold stock to this, because it's not a specific-to-town mistake.

[humaneatingmonkey]

^This doesn't even have anything to do with boxxy's content. The ROLE itself is 100% Town, and is hard for Scum to fake.

Why can't you fake that?

[humaneatingmonkey]

Salsabil, boxxy claimed something different. Roaming (target a player only once) and 1-shot (can only use the role once) are different claims.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Found only one game that uses it — ONE.
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=85074&start=200

[humaneatingmonkey]

VOTE: Cyrus

[humaneatingmonkey]

Hard agree

[humaneatingmonkey]

If

cyrus62

flips town, will

boxxy

be cleared?

hell no. both are scum on their own. cyrus is scum independent of boxxy's alignment. boxxy is scum independent of cyrus' alignment.

[humaneatingmonkey]

If there is a vig in the setup it's even less likely this role is in the game btw, you're not going to make me believe that not only you make a detective that is significantly nerfed but also happens to have false positives in there too

hashtag yes

[humaneatingmonkey]

it was me attempting a shitpost.

was it a shitposting mood back when you did it, cyrus? what motivated you to shitpost?

[humaneatingmonkey]

Your definition of a shitpost is putting someone at E-1?

It is a shit post he is successful

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cyrus, what's your read on boxxy?

boxxy is a non funny guy who hates to joke and doesnt like trolls .

And then he puts him at E-1 at 337.

Funniest shitpost ever

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why doesnt it come from scum, cyrus?

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i was having fun regardless of putting him to e 1. i didnt think he be hammered.

why not

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i just dont see scum making this post .

you've said that but i want to understand why you think so

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hem, why (for first time?) you are agitating people towards an elimination? I think about your cheering towards box death. Did you hope to early pressure him or what?

I don't understand this question. Don't you want to pressure your scumreads to see what happens?

[humaneatingmonkey]

claim?

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kewl.

VOTE: Cyrus62 Hammer

[humaneatingmonkey]

so now that thats done as i said boxy isnt lieing. so check monkey to see why he wanted to lynch a pr.

why though

[humaneatingmonkey]

making a bad push

what's bad about it?

[humaneatingmonkey]

VOTE: boxxy

[humaneatingmonkey]

To add to the list of incriminatingly scummy things boxxy has already done:

so now that thats done as i said boxy isnt lieing. so check monkey to see why he wanted to lynch a pr.

i wouldn't lynch nom they anit scum regardless

pushing boxxy is a bad idea move on. im sure you guys can do it.

fatia isnt scum trust me.

It's WIFOM-y, but I don't cyrus puts attention on his scumteam on his way out the door here. Knowing what these posts will look like after he flips, I see him doing a basic play of trying to put attention on some random town players. I'm willing to think these players are town for the time being.

boxxy is basically saying that these posts by cyrus proves he's town — in third person so you better believe it's objective

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lol back on this again?

I do think it's best play for town to let me live one or two more nights. Even if I was scum, most information can be gained by letting me give one or two more actions and then eliminating to see if those were truthful or not. Especially with us getting scum night one, we have more time to work with.

you are scum, until you prove that everything I've said against you are patently false or NAI.

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why do i feel that this day will also last 24h

If you've caught scum, you've caught scum. No need to play around.

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and then on d4 you will lament about lack of data to talk about

no. what we'll do is accidentally eliminate town players because we're trying to dance around a fakeclaimed obvious scum and then get owned with a fake guilty at LYLO. Has boxxy's result really affected your reads on Seanzie here? Exactly.

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no but the NKA did

i don't understand how that invalidates the very obvious move which is to eliminate the obvscum out of the game.

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I thought about nom, but I'm not convinced he bussed cyrus that early day 1. I'm waiting to see what he says today.

Meanwhile, boxxy described nom and I as powertown.

Reading Dwlee99 in iso, I don't like it. He seems a little too agreeable in how he joins up with powertown monkey/nom.

So if he's really reading the game this way, why would he think about targeting nom and what is he waiting from nom today? the answer is it's all lies.

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Here's a slip Dwlee, I got a guilty on Nom but ain't gonna do anything with it today since I'd rather have fun this way instead.

huh

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You have the floor, Bambi Jay. You can't say shit like that without backing it up. That's potentially game-changing.

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I'm not sure boxxy meant you

ask him

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Why should I? You're the one publicly pushing a narrative, so YOU ask him.

#793 should be enough for you

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thats it? you didn't even get dwlee to react and throw his case away

it was a fake case what did you expect

[humaneatingmonkey]

i don't believe Bambi Jay immediately here because I don't know what his role his and he hasn't established that credibility yet. nom is my greatest townread.

[humaneatingmonkey]

meanwhile, you believed him immediately even though you thought nom was powertown and Bambi Jay was not even here D1. incredible.

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And you, specifically, have zero real reads

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Bambi Jay, who I have zero reasons to trust and have zero rapport with, who targeted the guy who had pushed cyrus earliest in the game when there was a lot of alternatives.

vs

Nom, the guy who had pushed cyrus earliest in the game.

I've considered it and I don't buy it. Give me a reason to buy it.

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Give us a strong case on Town Nom then.

I just did.

I don't think the guilty is serious and I'm not going to take it seriously until Bambi says it is.

[humaneatingmonkey]

well you can just hardclaim this guilty, if you want to be taken seriously

[humaneatingmonkey]

Bambi Jay, why did you target nom?

[humaneatingmonkey]

So why nom specifically, vs other people?

[humaneatingmonkey]

You're being very dodgy with your thought process, and I can't trust that. If you can be more illustrative, this will help us read you and will help the town that you want to help.

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Instead of being dodgy, what we'd rather hear is your thought process choosing nom vs other viable candidates in the wagon. Or did you just yolo it?

[humaneatingmonkey]

Cool, so you yolo'd it.

An investigative who yolo'd it in the eliminated scum's wagon, who only remembers 5 standouts in #740, and hasn't even fully caught up before #772, who's very dodgy in their thought process, dodgy in their guilty result, and dodgy in their role mechanics.

On top of it all, claims a guilty result on one of the strongest town slots in this game.

What a hard sell.

[humaneatingmonkey]

VOTE: nomnomnom

[humaneatingmonkey]

if nomnom flips town, we lynch bambi jay and boxxy.

[humaneatingmonkey]

That's bullshit

[humaneatingmonkey]

VOTE: Almost50

[humaneatingmonkey]

Almost50 is scum claiming. Flip me and see.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Don't let him weasel out of this the next day when he says it was a fake guilty. Promise me.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Don't let him weasel out of this the next day when he says it was a fake guilty. Promise me.

[humaneatingmonkey]

I'm not a Serial Killer nor Mafia. And Almost50 is bullshitting.

[humaneatingmonkey]

I'm not even a vig nor do I have the ability to kill anyone.

[humaneatingmonkey]

I'm satisfied with this. Be hasty with flipping me, and flip Almost50 next. If A50 flips town, I will never sign up with him again.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Nope. There's absolutely no reason to out yourself as town without even a guilty. You're scum. 100%.

[humaneatingmonkey]

A50 got cold feet, and now won't deliver.

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P.S: I love how Nom and Monkey townread each other but did instantly vote the other when a fake guilty came up. Clearly they didn't have strong enough townreads.

nomnomnom is my strongest townread and I 100% thought you were bullshitting. The promise of you and boxxy being instantly elimmed when nomnomnom flips town is worth it. If the guilty was true, then it was also worth it.

[humaneatingmonkey]

scum in {Bambi Jay, boxxy, Almost50}

[humaneatingmonkey]

VOTE: boxxy

[humaneatingmonkey]

Can anyone give me links to games to where A50 and Bambi Jay do shit like this as scum or town?

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I shall remind everyone that Boxxy spent the majority of his day yesterday saying I was obvious scum for holding my tell, he claimed an invest role and he hasn't even checked me last night. And he hasn't checked Dwlee either which he opened with a vote on him today.
I refuse to believe he doesn't check me here.

Hard agree

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Salsabil was being pushed as scum as well yesterday.

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Sean also immediately tried to push boxxy today so it's entirely possible that boxxy is town and sean has killed Kyouko for the double threat of not only being scumread by him, but also because they happened to think boxxy was town.

Entirely possibly, but I have a townread on Sean. I also think Cyrus egging Sean vs Monkey on was clear evidence that Sean is town.

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Kerset said he got NKA out of Night 1 and reads boxxy as town despite boxxy's survival. I do not understand why. I agree that boxxy being alive today leads to an increased chance that boxxy is scum from NKA.

I think Salsabil vs boxxy is TvS, so that takes care of itself.
This might imply that Sean should flip first, but I townread the guy.

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I don't even believe you anymore A50. You claim that there was no reason to do what you did as scum. There's even less reason to do what you did as town.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Outing yourself as Novice Psychologist without even a guilty just to fake guilty someone and not even getting something out of it? Hard sell.

[humaneatingmonkey]

nomnomnom, what's your take on A50?

[humaneatingmonkey]

A fake guilty for a reaction test of the "target" AND to gauge how others react to it is "no reason"???

Was it productive for you? Did it help your read on me? Or did you just put yourself up for a nightkill without a guilty result? You could have done this Day 3 or Day 4. I don't buy this.

You touting that this is your towntell doesn't help. It doesn't work as a towntell anymore if you know it exists.

[humaneatingmonkey]

did you check Salsabil?

[humaneatingmonkey]

See im just. Makeing matters worse. If you want to lynch i or go for it . Now that they claimed scum will most likely kill them any way. Just saying.


Edit.I cannot promise that the role is real.

Ment a pr sorry phone fixes everything.

this slip

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Do me a favor: could you ISO the two and determine which one of the two is scummier? I really think either of them is a good push. It's just extremely likely at least one of them is scum. I am not writing off the possibility they actually might all be scums too because those are 3 players who represent the possibility of pulling this sort of play off.

sure

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While I am confident most of this wagon is comprised of town I feel strongly that at least one of Cyrus and Salsa are scum

Fot the argument's sake, assuming

cyrus62

is the town between us, how it makes me scum to you?

Like this is the post that gives the most explanation as to why Kyouko was killed.
If Salsabil went into this game with the intent of hard bussing Cyrus, a player that has this kind of read could be a real threat.
I legitimately could see Salsabil being scum here. This aligns with what I would expect out of a player like her rolling scum.
VOTE: Salsabil
Maybe this makes more sense. I've seen some townie posts in Sean's iso, particularly his colored wallposts felt like real town tryharding at the time.

This could be it. I'll take a look at it.