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[Enchant]

Enchant, who else is in your hood?

I am your alt.

[Enchant]

Why you say setup is easy to exploit?

Is this known already?

[Enchant]

Hello, i am Enchant.

What's up?

[Enchant]

@Jolyne I’m thinking Enchant is Scum here. They’ve pulled this nonsense before as Scum if I remember correctly. At least it’s worth pushing. Also, I think ignoring DGB’s reads makes sense :shrug: I’m not sure I would go as far as to policy any slot btw, but if I read slowly and actually find them Scummy I’ll let you know.

I have 2 posts in this game.

What nonsense.

[Enchant]

Well, actually 3 now.

[Enchant]

Disregard previous post, 4.

[Enchant]

Where you ask what’s up and just avoid actually speaking about the game or provide any positive contribution at all.

It's not like you want to ask something from me, or so on.

[Enchant]

Enchant, gib reads. Do you have an opinion on any of the following people: GrandpaMo, Nixie, and/or Andre?

GrandPa idk, he just looked on post where i was voted and like "Wait wot". Perhaps confused townie, because mafia would simple say "Ye Enchant indeed maf go" and so on.
Nixie who the hell is it
Andre confscum, i am not gonna change vote ty.

[Enchant]

Andre confscum, i am not gonna change vote ty.

@Jolyne, is there anything else you need?

Ok mafia

[Enchant]

Andre confscum, i am not gonna change vote ty.

@Jolyne, is there anything else you need?

Ok mafia

I’m Scum because I think that your activity is more often than not Scum indicative, and you’re choosing to tunnel me when I point it out? Either this is really basic Scum play or you’re just bad. Which is it?

Ok mafia

[Enchant]

It's not like you want to ask something from me, or so on.

Do you respond to those who do actually ask something of you?

Ok i give something you search in spoiler below.

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

something

P.S. This question can be answered by actual play, or you really want hear answer like "Yes soon i provide content my majesty" or so?

[Enchant]

This question can be answered by actual play

Considering it's about ~3 days left on the clock in a relatively low active game with prod timers being 48 hours, you being in the game for about 18 hours now, actively posting but none of it being of any worth or substance... The answer to that question by your actual play is that you're not doing anything. So I'm gonna ask. Either you say right away you're not gonna do anything so we can kill you immediately, you make false promises and we kill you after a few days of prodging, or you actually do something.

Hard question, can i take friend call tip?

[Enchant]

Alright what i think.

For first, don't talk with me from this position, you are not townleader and i don't fear/care what you talking on me, anime.
For second, my activity is last concern you need to have as town, you need to think if i am mafia, not if i am lurker. If you think i am mafia, i wondering why you didn't vote me yet so take your chance right now.
For third, i will be active as i see fit and in my powers to do, i am not going promise you anything.

[Enchant]

Alright what i think.

For first, don't talk with me from this position, you are not townleader and i don't fear/care what you talking on me, anime.
For second, my activity is last concern you need to have as town, you need to think if i am mafia, not if i am lurker. If you think i am mafia, i wondering why you didn't vote me yet so take your chance right now.
For third, i will be active as i see fit and in my powers to do, i am not going promise you anything.

I’m giving my opinion, not pretending to be a Town Leader. And how is being a lurker helpful to the Town again?

I’ll vote whenever the fuck I please, just as much as you seem to be saying that you’ll contribute whenever you want to. Don’t be a hypocrite. I’m not asking you to promise to do anything. I’m alerting the rest of the players here that if you start saying you’re bored or don’t want to read, and constantly ask for others to fill you in, it isn’t necessarily Town!you just not caring. You’ve displayed that style as Scum already.

I am not to you, mafia.

[Enchant]

I nominate Andres, Kyouko, and Dwlee as town leaders


you're overruled by the clear

I DISAGREE.

[Enchant]

"Terrible play"

Oh sorry, if you are town it's not like you catched atleast one mafia yet. Is this count as terrible?

[Enchant]

^those are the posts I’m talking about.

its kinda impossible for me to "solve the game" for town if town doesn't act on their own accord/present their own opinions so.

Yes, that's the whole point. The "you're not the Townleader" line annoyed me.

I think in 512 enchant is referring to andres not being the townleader? He says anime but I think that's more likely an autocorrect than it is he's calling Jolyene anime, because there are a few of anime avatars this game

No, i simple hate persons with attlitude "Act like i say or yeet" which anime (other anime) trying to purpose on me.

[Enchant]

It's deep night, i plan to sleep, but i am merciful enough.

You can ask me one question before i go.

[Enchant]

You lost your chance.

See ya tomorrow (or not idk)

[Enchant]

*PUNCHES IN THREAD*

Hello.

[Enchant]

*PUNCHES IN THREAD*

Hello.

*pokes with stick*
do something

something

[Enchant]

^
Finally, person with high IQ.

[Enchant]

IMAGINE VOTING PEOPLE FOR "LURKING" WHILE LURKING IS WHEN YOU ANSWER ONCE PER YEAR.

[Enchant]

Look for scum or I'll hang you later.

I catched more scums than you already.

[Enchant]

I can't do all work here.

[Enchant]

Look for scum or I'll hang you later.

I catched more scums than you already.

Each post like this make that more likely.

You want scare me or what?

[Enchant]

Look for scum or I'll hang you later.

I catched more scums than you already.

Each post like this make that more likely.

You want scare me or what?

I'm content either way.

Ok sure what content you want.

[Enchant]

Look for scum or I'll hang you later.

I catched more scums than you already.

Each post like this make that more likely.

You want scare me or what?

I'm content either way.

Ok sure what content you want.

Nothing specific, it's the general lack of engagement with anything that isn't directed to you specifically.

Aren't i engaged already?
Unless you think taking random reads like "OH TOWN POST" and "CONFSCUM" are count.

Go murder someone already, it's boring. I suggest Andre still.

[Enchant]

Enchant's play:

1) OMGUSing people who scumread them
2) Getting indignant at any suggestion that 1) is not sufficient

This slot has to go.

no u

[Enchant]

I dunno. I feel like being a contrarian isn't the best scum strategy, and Enchant's antics are distracting us from actual scum.

I have been able to correctly town read him when everyone else wanted to eliminate him.

I can't say that I find him townie enough in this game to defend him.

VOTE: Enchant

Ok white knight.

See ya in hell.


P.S. no really most ppl who really protected me in previous games turned scum.
Yes again OMGUS, "most common scumtell" or whatever.

[Enchant]

Protip:

By murdering someone else you have higher chances to murder mafia.
By murdering me you have 0.


What intel you expect from me to collect on Day 1 i really don't know, i am not fun of searching some strange tells.

[Enchant]

I dunno. I feel like being a contrarian isn't the best scum strategy, and Enchant's antics are distracting us from actual scum.

I have been able to correctly town read him when everyone else wanted to eliminate him.

I can't say that I find him townie enough in this game to defend him.

VOTE: Enchant

Ok white knight.

See ya in hell.


P.S. no really most ppl who really protected me in previous games turned scum.
Yes again OMGUS, "most common scumtell" or whatever.

I defended you as town.

Idk, if you really "agreed" to kill me, seems like you fear going against majority.

I don't exactly love when i am protected of course, but when you say i am simple lurker-idiot and not worth time, and then change time because "He is not townie enough to protect him lol". Aren't you interested in murdering scum, and if you doesh't believe i am scum why you vote me duh?

[Enchant]

I dunno. I feel like being a contrarian isn't the best scum strategy, and Enchant's antics are distracting us from actual scum.

I have been able to correctly town read him when everyone else wanted to eliminate him.

I can't say that I find him townie enough in this game to defend him.

VOTE: Enchant

Ok white knight.

See ya in hell.


P.S. no really most ppl who really protected me in previous games turned scum.
Yes again OMGUS, "most common scumtell" or whatever.

Enchant, I find your behavior baffling.

I'm looking for something AI, in either direction, but I am coming up empty.

Try toning down the defiant trolling.

If you can't find AI, then there's no AI.

Aren't i am clear then.

[Enchant]

I didn't say you are lurker-idiot.

I did say that, my lack of scumreading activity is obvious for me, and if you think i do it on purpose then think again. It's not my powerfull side by any means, i don't even understand most reasons why people vote here.

[Enchant]

I just want to bring you back in a cooperative state of mind if you're town. Please. I ask nicely.

Aren't i am cooperating right now?

[Enchant]

(If you're red-green colorblind, I'll provide a different version)

Green is a townread, pink and red are weak/strong sumreads, white is null, and Jolyne gets a special conftown green. All of the blank gray spaces are where I couldn't find an opinion. Alice and Nixie get question marks because Nixie is being replaced and Alice is not very present. GMo has his gamesolve filled in. Also, a lot of these reads are super out-of-date and should be updated in the context of GMo's gamesolve post.

Why i am blackreading Enchant, i believe Enchant is town, please fix it.

Also place you in mild green from it, you deserved.

It's not like i want to see how you make redactions every 10 seconds, certanly not.

[Enchant]

Ok mafia

[Enchant]

^ See, he doesn't even want to kill scum, he want to kill person who are annoy him.

WHO LET DOGS OUT?
WOOF
WOOF, WOOF WOOF.

[Enchant]

Thanks for admitting it, now can you pass me some bullets so u nightkill you personally?

[Enchant]

I’m being sarcastic while describing your play. But obviously you didn’t get that.

That's not truth, i don't play like that.

You framing me. Mafia.

[Enchant]

So again, you remember when DGF told he managed to townread me, but claimed i am not townie enough to protect me, and then voted?

Well, this is dumb, if you truly believe i am town (Spoiler: I am town), then why you vote me? What death of townie give to you, i don't think it even give intel, because there's everyone hating me and want /delete me from game, so even if i die, you will have almost same situation, expect for -1 townie+0-2 townies from nightkills.

So, why? I can't comprehend your logic DGF

[Enchant]

Wait really.

Damn language barrier, i retract accusation.

[Enchant]

Can i ask, why you think there's 2 scum?

[Enchant]

VOTE: Titus

Okay I hard claim masons with DGB - Can you confirm?

I told them in mason chat, that titus is town but they are voting them. So if you want to carry the weight that either of us are scum, you can drop it now.

Why the fuck you claimed?

Like
For what... Why?

[Enchant]

Eeeeeeeh.

Unexpectedly reasonable, but mason claim send me off.

Also if you mistaked it already, why you didn't learn?

[Enchant]

I have damn sad feeling but i agree with Andre. Well.

Also, i have feeling we have third party (i mean stab-stabby one), otherwise it's unbalanced.

[Enchant]

Survivor is not normal.

[Enchant]

I checked.

Yes, SK can't be here and only one faction.

But motivation of mod to put IC with important knowledge (so we sure get it and believe) and remove one maf is... Well. I can't tell and it's useless prediction right now.


So. Titus is mafia, because he voting person who you said are town?

[Enchant]

It's very dumb (or genial) move for mafia.

[Enchant]

Wtf, i didn't even vote Titus.

[Enchant]

Wtf, i didn't even vote Titus.

You thought they were scum.

No, my question was "So he is mafia because he is voting your townread?"

Because it's cringe reason on my opinion.

[Enchant]

Also, GG claims i am mafia for asking this question, like it's confirmed Titus is town and HOW DARE I AM ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT CONFIRMED TOWNIES.

[Enchant]

UNVOTE: Enchant

Waiting for what Dwlee and DGB have to say about this...

I can't see logic chain.

[Enchant]

Sorry to say, but it's damn hilarous.


Also, GrandMo, just question for what you should be townreaded and what for scumreaded?
For future and maybe now.

[Enchant]

You too busy to answer my questions huh.

[Enchant]

You too busy to answer my questions huh.

I probably didn't see them. Sorry what are your questions.

Why you scumread me for question?

[Enchant]

You too busy to answer my questions huh.

I probably didn't see them. Sorry what are your questions.

Why you scumread me for question?

I don't anymore.

I realized I scumread you out of pity.

Bruh

[Enchant]

I'm saying your SR on him is misplaced (not necessarily wrong, but if it's right, it's for NAI reasons) if you are town. If you're scum then his conversation doesnt really matter

I’m going to say this for after the game, for the future. Ignore for now and then come back to this later.

If I’m Scum, and I see Town!GrandpaMo lie about their role (or make a Claim that’s really hard to believe or at a weird time), I don’t question it, and I certainly don’t push them. I laugh. Because the only thing that it achieves is paranoia and more suspicion. And it creates a massive distraction. GrandpaMo thinks that their ability to get a reaction and potentially read one slot better or whatever is more valuable than Town cohesion, or for others to read them correctly (or at least believe that they’re generally acting in good faith and won’t do stupid things). That’s why I’m getting annoyed. There’s an arrogance to the play that I despise.

So this should make me town then, no? If you are town and I am town then scum is just laughing in their pants, doing what you have said scum would do.

Not only scum does, i laughing like idiot as well.

[Enchant]

I think you trying to shade me again because you got wagoned.

*shrug*

[Enchant]

Night time for me.

Cya.

[Enchant]

Maybe you suggest someone else instead then?

[Enchant]

Maybe you suggest someone else instead then?

I'm already voting someone. But I rather no vote than anything but ya'll hate that idea

You don't even remember who you vote or you want for me to look personally who you vote so i can consider it?

Top 10 ways to get your scumread killed.

[Enchant]

No-Elim is horrible idea, i don't believe we have investigative PR in 2-Maf game.

[Enchant]

Maybe you suggest someone else instead then?

I'm already voting someone. But I rather no vote than anything but ya'll hate that idea

You don't even remember who you vote or you want for me to look personally who you vote so i can consider it?

Top 10 ways to get your scumread killed.

Can you tell me all ten so I can try and hit them all?

Is hard claiming a role and straight up getting called a liar one of them?

Yes.

[Enchant]

Okay, out of the people that have any votes on them, this is probably my preferred course of action: VOTE: Enchant Though I'd be lying if I said I have too much hope in this flipping Red at this point.

I don't want to vote Kazyan because of Obvious Reasons, and I'm still having Townie pings from Alice. That said, considering I'm not sure if I have a solid scumread on anyone anymore, and that it's ~11 hours on the clock, it's increasingly likely I will turn into Jolyne's double vote at some point. Also, I will be around for most of the rest of the Day, so.

"I don't think Enchant flip mafia, but vote anyway."

Ok

[Enchant]

... honestly right now you doing opposite.

You should claim Mafia Goon, then it's more likely you get voted.

[Enchant]

VOTE: Alice

She is elimmed.

[Enchant]

Imagine placing IC in game without protectives, so this person will be nightkilled instantly.

[Enchant]

What Vengebait?

What vengeful? Why town have killing potential in 2 scum game?

[Enchant]

blatant venge play, ignore and move on. Let scum nightkill it

That's not Kuba.

I don't believe mod is insane enough to put killers in 2 scum game.

[Enchant]

Jolyne.

There's 2 mafia on your words.

Why mod could give Town killing power? It's unbalanced.

[Enchant]

Why claim?

Alice was hammered long ago i believe.

[Enchant]

Vote Count 1.11

AliceK (6)Titus;GrandpaMo;Kazyan;Dwlee99;Nathann;Enchant;

Kazyan (4)ssbm_Kyouko;

Jolyne

;Andresvmb;Ythan;

DrippingGoofball (2)geraintm;DrippingGoofball;

Dwlee99 (1)AliceK;

GrandpaMo (0)

Enchant

MargotRosa

(0)

Not Voting(0)

Andresvmb (0)

Ythan

JacksonVirgo

(0)

Jolyne

(0)

ssbm_Kyouko (0)

geraintm (0)

No Elimination (0)

Titus

Nixie

(0)

Nathann (0)

With 13 alive it is 7 to execute.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2021-08-24 18:10:00) or when an execution has been achieved.

VOTE: Alice

I moved it but the mod didn't see so I am putting it back.

@Everyone, someone said or implied no protectives. I found that odd.

Oh. Titus already voted before.

Well.

[Enchant]

Imagine not watching IC as Watcher.

[Enchant]

Claim noted.

Also, can we figure out what the deal with Enchant is today before we kill anyone? I feel like if he's town, scum are going to bulldose through Kazyan -> Enchant as miselims and then town will really have to get its act together.

Because i am LuRkEr i quess.

Kazyan 100% LAWKTOWN

I am sick of mafia telling how this was towny, not adding anything and then disappearing.
VOTE: DrippingGoofball

Idk why you townread him.

[Enchant]

Idk why you townread him.

I townread him because no scum spends the whole gamenight scumhunting.

I was about you.

Because i am LuRkEr i quess.

I've seen you effort before dude. If you're town do that

I hammered 2 townies in our previous game, what you about.

[Enchant]

Why you leave crumbs, it's damn suicide without reason.

[Enchant]

Imagine not watching IC as Watcher.

How do you know this didn't happen?

Do you see person screaming "X VISITED JOLUNE"?

I don't see.

[Enchant]

"scumslip"

Excuse me?

[Enchant]

Yes.

I think it's unfair. So there's no Vengeful.

[Enchant]

Prodge.

Sorry, i have pretty much fucked day. And will have it for some time, so no mafia games today.

[Enchant]

did i not post here dammit

this was actually my watcher crumb lol

"did i not post here dammit" because i was distracted watching something.

i do not believe

Same.

This post can go with naturally any PR and is impossible to read even if someone points, but pretty bold for mafia, who need to know there's no PR at all, otherwise they could get caught.


I dunno if Ninja is 1-shot but we could ask Go to announce target, so other PR will visit and check if claim truth.

There's drawback, if he is town, he can be roleblocked... But we then know there's roleblocker, right? Still intel.

[Enchant]

Why you think Weak Doc is here, when he didn't even try to heal blatant target?

[Enchant]

Why you think Weak Doc is here, when he didn't even try to heal blatant target?

"when he didnt" this implies you are informed of the doc.

are you informed of doc or are you just referring the doc as the royal he?

Even if Strongman performed kill, i believe you could saw Doc visit on IC right?

[Enchant]

Then why you think there's even protective?

[Enchant]

Ohhhhhhhhh.

Weak Doctor dies when target mafia. So he could use it as Cop check or so. Fine.

Still can't understand why you think we have exactly him.

[Enchant]

About Andre question, i don't know. If you are town, and townread me, well you doing it right. I saw more bizarre reasons for reads.

About fakeclaims. I don't think it's anti-town to fakeclaim to draw NK. But i simple don't believe you do that with common sense or any sense at all.
For example, why fake Supersaint and expect to be killed? Supersaint is mostly -2 townies via miselim. WHY NIGHTKILL THIS PRESENT? After town literally forced to skip elim to make even amount of players as well. +1 NK. Ergo: -3 Townies just because of supersaint.

Idk why you simple didn't fake 1-Shot Cop or something like that like i did. Yes i made crumbs as well.

[Enchant]

Let me quess, it's Me/GPo and Kazyan?

[Enchant]

I quessed 50% i consider this a win.

[Enchant]

What you mean by me mean me?

[Enchant]

I can give you some games where i am town and not scummy, but it's more matter of luck, not of my efforts.

[Enchant]

Oh there was also the cult game lol

I won this game.

No dirt on me.

[Enchant]

You winning that game was an indictment of cult games lol

I believe in idea, where you can't blame one particular player. Team game and such.

Cult Leader simple hided in everyone townreads, which i called out right on day 1, because it's expected from CL to avoid votes at all costs. I revealed so i can't be called out for being CL and murdered, which helped a bit (even if you don't think so). Otherwise there would be idea where i am simple CL who converted Rolestopper and changed roles with him and would be mistakenly voted after.

[Enchant]

Idk why mafia even need to push for claims and why me not pushing clears me. It's expected there's no dangerous PR in 2-Maf game, so why bother?

I went to check that post out, and me/Dwlee deflated that wagon before Enchant got a chance to post, they never had the opportunity to force the wagon onto Y-1.

@Enchant, what'd your reads looking like?

You stunned me with this.
I can't answer.

[Enchant]

Before you yell at me for no scumreading, well yeah. While i have some ideas, i feel i am wrongly wrong and can't answer for sure.

[Enchant]

Well if that. I think sometimes destiny needs insane push.

More likely that not, mafia doing well and sit in everyone townreads, atleast one of them.

Probably idea "murder towniest person" looks horrible, but i don't think being top townread is that hard as mafia.

Who exactly is different question, which i thinking right now.

[Enchant]

Hey look, naked vote.

VOTE: Ythan

[Enchant]

UNVOTE:

[Enchant]

I want hear Ythan first idk.

[Enchant]

I dislike how GrandpaMo active on site, but not here.

... Well i am too not very active, but still.

[Enchant]

VOTE: GrandPa

[Enchant]

Wall incoming?

[Enchant]

...

Ok!

Extended quickhammer, anyone?

[Enchant]

I planning to quickhammer you.

Mind your business.

[Enchant]

Thought so. Weird suggestion for you to make as soon as I start catching up when you specifically said you wanted to hear from me.

Perhaps.

Don't mind me, please continue on.

[Enchant]

enchant vote this.

Then put him on E-1, i will hammer.

[Enchant]

Too late!

Sad.

Either way, GrandPa, if you are really here, why you don't answer questions.

[Enchant]

GrandPo achieved mastery in dodging.

[Enchant]

8 out of 9 seems high.
I don't think GrandpaMo is going to flip red. I'll obviously be happy if it is but I am not voting there today.

Why so?

[Enchant]

And why you think Nathann will? Didn't saw your case.

[Enchant]

i think if ur town > then enchant is just the scum here

Also, to make it clear that I am asking - what happened to this, GrandpaMo?

ah found it! i disregarded following the course of actions happened today. if enchant was scum, wouldn't they have been hard pushing me today? but they instead go onto someone else who is a possible flip for red. them wanting to hammer red is okay. i felt as tho enchant + me (hindsight bias) was going to miscondemned one by town (me) and one mafia miscondemning them (enchant)

Erm... I did push you.

[Enchant]

Re-reading... Ythan is going to flip red.

what made u change ur mind?

i still think this is true and i wanted enchant to vote so i could hammer. i dont act like this when im scum lol

VOTE: Ythan

But you dissapeared.

How you would to hammer him, if you was not here?

[Enchant]

... Faaaaaaaaair.

[Enchant]

Don't worry!

After we fail again (i somehow think we will), we have atleast 50% chance to quess right! Maybe we win simple by dumb luck.

Who to vote today... Need to think.

[Enchant]

Counterpoint: Kazyan has been very townie.

voting townies out every single time is not very townie

What your list proves, expect for your lazyness in voting?

[Enchant]

This is actually makes sense now.

[Enchant]

Well it's not good for town but "voted out town" isn't a scum tell unless it's paired with something like opportunism. Don't think Kazyan's votes have seemed opportunistic though

If Kazyan is town, and I think he is, he can set his location to "Bad Player Jail" after the game.

Wtf, why bad player? He atleast tried and provided analysis.

Everyone here fails gradually, including you (if you town) and me.

[Enchant]

I don't know if I'm okay with how disinterested Enchant is in scumhunting today.

Bruh.

I am disinterested for whole game, why you made this your concern just now?

[Enchant]

You get how bad the position we're in is, right? gera (town) wants me (town) dead, and you (town??) just don't care about anything that's going on and your sentiment has been "roll the dice" instead of trying to solve the game.

What's going to happen is that we eliminate someone--probably another townie because I'm the town leader right now and am recycled garbage at scumhunting--and then the scumteam will convince you and/or Nathan to vote me out tomorrow and lose. Assuming you're not one of them, anyway.

1. Don't assume anyone as town, before he die. That's basically how most games lost.
2. Position is bad, but nothing we can't salvage, atleast we supposed to get intel for passed days. Well... Supposed is main thing. Believe me or not, but i planned to vote Andre on this day, with "A-ha, you pocketed me". Nightkill saved him.
3. I don't care yes. Sad to be my teammate, is it? Hold on, not really. Otherwise, i would simple vote Ythan as first wagon and dissapear before prod. Maybe it's look i don't care, it's not.

[Enchant]

I'm not cool with being hit up with this "why didn't you think of this earlier? Suspicious!" from two different people--active discouragement from scumhunting--and gera straight-up refusing to give a second scumread or look for a partner. You guys cannot lean on me to tell you who is scum. I never get it right unless I sheep, and people get furious when I do that. So I'm going to abdicate my position as town leader and make you guys care. VOTE: Kazyan

I remember i suggested to kill me d1. Not in this game, but really.

It wented horrible. Just in case, by dying you throw game in Elo at best, and instant lose at worst.

[Enchant]

What i think: If we are not dead, we are needed for mafia for something. Mafia rarely do alcoholic nightkills or wine or something like that, so basically all nks had some ideas how to win.

I can't really see it though. Ythan looks like best pet for me right now.

[Enchant]

I laugh outright at the notion that explaining reasons for a scumread is pointless in a game of Mafia, from a person with a 2009 join date. Enchant, are you seeing this?

Yep. Not so funny for me though.

[Enchant]

Imagine believing in PR still.

VOTE: Ythan

[Enchant]

No one died.

[Enchant]

I have Green Role!

[Enchant]

No really, if you wait long explaination, i don't have it.

[Enchant]

I didn't really had any.

Saw Ythan on E-1 and remembered we wanted to kill him long ago, but always redirected on someone else. Hammered.

I consider my life complete and successfull.

[Enchant]

Best target to elim.

[Enchant]

I don't understand this logic.

[Enchant]

I am about Dwlee

[Enchant]

I don't understand this logic.

What don't you understand about it?

Yeah i quickhammered my partner in other game.

Why you post it here

[Enchant]

Yeah i planned to quickhammer Ythan.

It doesh't prove i am partnered with him.
But proves Nathann is. Unvote on quickhammer/Why you hammered while i sorting daaaaaaaaaaaah!

[Enchant]

Don't try to scare me.

[Enchant]

What sense? After i die no one believe me and will speedwagon someone else, not you. Even then i can still be wrong.

I know how it happens. Townies have memery of goldfish. No offense, but that's true.

[Enchant]

Well. Ok i quess.


I am VT.

[Enchant]

I can scream Town too, want to?

TOWN.
TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWN.

[Enchant]

You acknowledge you will need to skip elim?

Because 4 people (if mafia kill someone of course) is less chances to kill mafia than on 3. 25% against 33%.
Let's go No-Elim now and see who die? Because we will need to do it anyway.

[Enchant]

Oh right, superreads which we followed whole game, executing town.

Sure, i believe in you all.

[Enchant]

That's not because of "Investigative".

Because situation with 3 people more plausable than 4.
Of course you already "Deduced" town and such it's not problem, but after i die and flip town (which you doesn't believe, etc), now what?


Either skip now or skip next day, you doesn't have confirmed townies.
... Well. Expect for bulletproof claim, forgot nickname, but even then, still could be mafia who skipped kill.

[Enchant]

So you elimming me from fear?

I don't know if i should be pissed or proud!


... Like really.

[Enchant]

Why i need to counterwagon ythan on first place if Ythan die after anyway (i did nothing to save) and cover me in red? Unless of course ability to claim this question, but let's assume.

[Enchant]

Fair enough, i tried to quickhammer Ythan. But then GGb...
I was like...
Well.

Did i mention i am bad at mafia?

[Enchant]

Probably yes, you elimmed so many townies, then mafia and decided to continue streak of townies again.

JoJo would be not happy.

[Enchant]

And as I just realized cause Enchant questioned why he would let ythan die day 4 but not day 3, ythan dying day 3 means grandpa wagon doesn't go through ever. And if grandpa isn't getting mislimmed because of ythan's flip and I'm scum who am I going to push then?

Understandble, have nice day.

[Enchant]

Yeah, do whatever.

[Enchant]

Plottwist:
Kazyan is Mafia.

... No, really. I expect that. Ythan accusation on Kazyan was... Eh. Like way to say "we are not partnered, honest!"

Ythan did nothing to protect self and made really bad accusation on Kazyan. Considering Ythan was kinda drowning already...


Don't mind me. I just making my last call before demise. But if i was right, i will laugh.

[Enchant]

I will tell you one secret.

Some people are not same.
I act differently as town and mafia always. Because alignment doesh't really affect my touch with game.

[Enchant]

So you think Ythan's vote on Kazyan at the end of Day 1 was also distancing?

Day 1 is rarely matters, everyone just screwing around.
I see mafia SO OFTEN VOTING EACH OTHER ON DAY 1 (knowing it doesh't endanger but will give distancing points regardless), so i am more surprised when i don't see that.


Don't think too much about it, it's mine probably insane though.

[Enchant]

Yeah. I am just quessing. Kazyan is Mafia.

I already told that. I am not trying to prove you anything.

[Enchant]

Why do you seem utterly disinterested in trying to figure the game out?

1. I have no damn idea, so i can actually only make insane quesses. I don't want actually to quess someone wrong and then get elimmed anyway (which is instant loss). You (means not only you, everyone else too) have better chances to figure it our than me, i will only distraction.
2. You not gonna believe me anyway, disregard what i say today and go wild. I don't think my voice matter from grave, because again, i am bad at persuading and explaining things.


Just make me one promise. No-Elim next day. Don't even try to say "Oh, we have one confirmed townie, don't want to lose!". Because no one damn confirmed. 3 people is better than 4. Pretty enough to bust our chances from 0 to 1%.

I am not attacking Bulletproof claim directly, could be legit, but still it's not clear on 100%. Mafia dies as strongman and "bah", mafia hit me! Immediatly yeah!

I also can imagine how moderator laughts and puts "Strongman" which can use ability only on damn 1n. Imagine quessing Bulletproof on Day 1...
Or... Is this to force mafia to think there's protective PR, so they can kill confirmed IC? But it's damn useless without protectors... So basically it's for forcing mafia to kill IC 1n, because "no other chance". Then i can only wonder, about what mafia was informed.

... Well. Seems like i can only trashtalk about setup. Again.

[Enchant]

Well, we on 33% chance of win for now if we elim me (50% from townie perspective, where townie simple votes one of two suspects. After that he need also not getting hammered, so... Well maybe less than 50%, but still solid).

Interesting thing is, i don't really sure if my elim busts our chances to win or decrease.
Like, i most likely can persuade you if try harder, then... Who we will elim? Because i told already, i am semiblind now. We elim townie (or mafia, but i don't really believe in that). And then it will be even harder for me to off from the hook, but there will be win on stake. Nah...

I go to sleep.

[Enchant]

Lightheart decision to who to vote.

Like, we are in Elo (It believe in it, otherwise why this post)? WELL IT'S DWLEE AND ENCHANT FOR SURE. *Insert fast vote without hesitation*

Just in case, even me, quickhammering degenerate are more paranoid when i am townie in Elo and my decision matters. Basically, DGB is more careless than me.
Wtf.

[Enchant]

I suspect everyone.

That's reason why i think we lost. Or maybe i am just blind idk.

If i would pick kill today, i would suggest in that order: Nathann > DGF > Kazyan > Dwlee99/Gera.

My money still on Kazyan. 1. I can't revert my choice which i already made, it would be cheating. 2. That's what i expect from PLOTTWIST.

[Enchant]

Hm.

I walked Nathann iso. He remained on Ythan. Well maybe mafia, who decided to adamantly bus? Idk.

Ok maybe DGF > Kazyan > Nathann > Dwlee99/Gera.

[Enchant]

I remembered i can't remember why i even townread Dwlee99 at first place.

Idk. They stay on place for now.

[Enchant]

DGB too lightheart to vote while believing we are in Elo.
Ythan vs Kazyan looks like bad Mafia vs Mafia theatre. I already thinked it's strange Kazyan even remembered my name and was like "Enchant do you see this?!"

[Enchant]

Hm.

Hmmmmmmmmm.

Ok i quess.

[Enchant]

Remember i asked if my existing busts town chances or not?
I now think it doesn't. I don't have any direct ideas and wrong overall. I can persuade you from killing me this day, but after i die almost certainly and game lost.

I just decided, i need to go (i mean from town).
I don't know who is mafia and have low chances to hit. You should win this (well, you have... 33%!).

Good luck.
VOTE: Enchant



Still Skip Next Day. Even if "very trusted" townie die, you atleast could believe in reads after. I still paranoid mafia managed to infiltrate too deep.

[Enchant]

I am not going to elo.

[Enchant]

You will have next day.

Which you SUPPOSED TO SKIP. Stop overthinking things before i flip and mafia NK, it doesn't do any good

[Enchant]

There's no reason to not skip anyway

Admitting being mafia?
Well ok

[Enchant]

Nvm, wrong post quoted.

[Enchant]

Ye.

They reacted like i FORCED you to skip. Ffs.

How long i will dying?

[Enchant]

THERE WAS DEAD PT?!

I was not invited...