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[camelCasedSnivy]

Yo I'm here
I gtg very soon so I'll just make a random vote
VOTE: DArby

[camelCasedSnivy]

When I type the vote tags my phone suggests that I type “Gamma”
VOTE: gamma

umm what? why would your phone suggest gamma?

[camelCasedSnivy]

NOOOO IM BEING OUT JESTERED BY NOT_MAFIA

[camelCasedSnivy]

camel's opening felt awkward to me but I took a look at his previous town newbie game and it also felt awkward so I'll write it off as NAI.

Thats me :)

[camelCasedSnivy]

#100

Mods stealing pagetops lmao

[camelCasedSnivy]

UNVOTE: darby
They're showing a towny thought process - also im vla until monday, very busy weekend. i delegate thread leading to marci and darby

They've only made one read post and honestly I don't think town would vote someone if someone else told them to.
I'm sticking to my vote as of now

[camelCasedSnivy]

Last game I knew 2 people out of the other 8
Now theres 13 and I know none ;-;
That makes it a bit harder

[camelCasedSnivy]

Last game I knew 2 people out of the other 8
Now theres 13 (actually 12 but i included myself) and I know none ;-;
That makes it a bit harder

u can pretend u know me
i expose stuff about myself pretty easily :P

do u wanna hear any stories :shifty:

eh its fine. if you want you can

[camelCasedSnivy]

when im vt: i tend to be more suicidal and if im not that im scummy
when im pr: i tend to be extremely defensive and normally im not scummy but i say stupid things and/or outting myself in weird ways
when im maf: s c u m m y l e v e l s i n t e n s i f y, also act pretty similarly as if i am a pr with being extremely defensive, only now theres a bit of suicidalness mixed in if im universally scumread

[camelCasedSnivy]

maybe

[camelCasedSnivy]

FREE PAGETOP

[camelCasedSnivy]

This game exists, totally did NOT forget.
Will catch up later

[camelCasedSnivy]

Dodging the question. Got it.

I'm the one asking the questions, son.

I dont know what question it is but why not just give some answer? This is either Town thinking their slick or Mafia trying to act like aforementioned Town

[camelCasedSnivy]

Can someone please catch me up, I'm not reading 12 pages of posts

[camelCasedSnivy]

I'll try to be active, its just that I've been getting a lot of homework and just being down but luckily I get 2 days of school off soon!

[camelCasedSnivy]

Can I at least get a list of claims?

[camelCasedSnivy]

like i am at the point where I wanna plow thru my current poe until we hit town.

until we hit town? so you're saying you think majority of your poe is scum>

[camelCasedSnivy]

Also UNVOTE: DArby because its been a while

[camelCasedSnivy]

Every time I play with Val he always takes a lot of what I’m thinking and makes it more understandable. I’m scared to roll scum in a game with him as town.

Are you scared now? :)

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On another note, it seems no one is really giving me any info to catch up. I do NOT have school tommorow so I will check back here more often. Anyone have any questions for me since I've been absent majority of the game?

[camelCasedSnivy]

like i am at the point where I wanna plow thru my current poe until we hit town.

until we hit town? so you're saying you think majority of your poe is scum>

were u trying to go anywhere with this

was just wondering why they thought that majority of their poe is scum. im not turning this one post into a scumcase

[camelCasedSnivy]

I know but unless you're a god at the game I'm pretty I've seen poes commonly have a split of town/scum if not more town,

[camelCasedSnivy]

Koba feels pedantic.

Koba is in this game?

[camelCasedSnivy]

Have you caught up, N_M, or are you just responding to the prod without realising the context in which you are doing so?

You very well know how N_M plays, why are you even questioning it lol

[camelCasedSnivy]

Also worth mentioning that I'm willing to condemn N_M if I'm not sure who to condemn as they're pretty unreadable

[camelCasedSnivy]

You very well know how N_M plays, why are you even questioning it lol

Well, the context is fairly significant here, no?

We literally just establish that scum need to move this game into a night phase as quickly as possible in order to capitalise on the little setup information we had been given, and was staring us in the face this entire time, and the next thing N_M says is "this day phase should be over", I want to know if that was a conscious decision, or if he's just saying what he always does.

If I'm going to be honest, do you really think they would tell you? From what I can tell, N_M doesn't really care if they get eliminated (and maybe ultimately win or lose)

[camelCasedSnivy]

I'm kicking myself that I spent 30 odd pages labouring under a misunderstanding as to what 'backup ascetic' meant, and thinking it didn't make sense for there to be town ascetics - but now that I do, the scum strategy here is simple, and it puts in to focus why some slots have been trying to drive into a night phase as quickly as possible.

I know you are going to tell us it's an unfortunate coincidence, that you had no idea you were advocating to a course of action that leads to a scum advantage, and a significant one, and you have just been a useful idiot, but I think Occams Razor applies.

Are you saying you believe currently there are town ascetics?

Makes sense (because mafia are Backup Ascetics). I have heard of closed setups having redundant Backups though, so maybe not.

Either way, only Town Ascetics would know about that so it shouldn't dictate scum behavior

[camelCasedSnivy]

Had a thought. What if there was a

Mafia Ascetic Backup Ascetic

?
Do you think that is a possibility?

[camelCasedSnivy]

Yeah good point

[camelCasedSnivy]

Or...and hear me out, here....you could dispense with the AtE and just explain why Toxic is 'objectively' a better elimination now?

AtE?

[camelCasedSnivy]

camel what do u think of my current vote

I don't really care about it.

[camelCasedSnivy]

Appeal to emotion.

Ah yes, the thing people always think I do in a Mafia game

[camelCasedSnivy]

tfw i just remembered camel is in this game?

Yeah, I havent been active much.

The last game and my first game was MUCH more slow. And I'm also significantly more busy.

[camelCasedSnivy]

I think the second bit he could be genuinely confused scum about, basically no one understands ascetic at first glance

Standard Ascetic = All actions that target you EXCEPT FOR KILLS will fail as if roleblocked

[camelCasedSnivy]

And I'm just assuming that the mod is using the standardized modifier

[camelCasedSnivy]

Like what’s the point in joining a game of deduction if you’re not going to even attempt to be readable.

It's actually a pretty smart strategy, just not a fun one
Normally why I try to be scummy when I'm town, since I'm really scummy when I'm scum

[camelCasedSnivy]

Lemme just ask why we are voting toxic?

[camelCasedSnivy]

Claiming VT. No defense, nothing exciting, sorry.

Of course you claim VT.
Honestly considering I have minimum knowledge on the game right now I'm just not going to vote for toxic.

[camelCasedSnivy]

Not to antagonize the situation, but what is an actual VT supposed to say when asked to claim?

I mean the same thing, my point was you were really scummy so VT and Mafia would claim that alike.

Also don't talk like you really are a VT when its very much possible you are not.

[camelCasedSnivy]

I’m giving my intent to E-1. NM will probably hammer if not someone else.

Any objections anyone?

Not really. More discussion the better

[camelCasedSnivy]

Not to antagonize the situation, but what is an actual VT supposed to say when asked to claim?

I mean the same thing, my point was you were really scummy so VT and Mafia would claim that alike.

Also don't talk like you really are a VT when its very much possible you are not.

Didn’t you just ask: "why are we voting Toxic"?

Yes I did. I just assumed they're scummy since... yknow... that's why you condemn people...
But I wanted to know why in the case that I didn't agree / if I wanted to add a vote to the wagon or not

[camelCasedSnivy]

Took you long enough
VOTE: camelCasedSnivy

[camelCasedSnivy]

i do feel like itll be good to pressure camel now, so many people have let them slide by and keep forgetting about them.
VOTE: camelcasedsnivy

ugh this is all my fault : - (

Btw I just wanna say this is true, if I was basically everyone I would either policy lim N_M or start a wagon on myself

[camelCasedSnivy]

SUCH NEWBTOWN POST
VOTE: nm

I'm a noob :(
Also didn't realize the vote tag could be abbreviated with just "v"
Muy interesante
I'm looking at this post and I find it as useless but why not post it

[camelCasedSnivy]

So idk, here i guess? I think their interactions around Toxic was more based on the threads willingness to kill them, rather than genuinely reading them as scum or town.
VOTE: CamelCasedSnivy

...and? I don't trust myself

[camelCasedSnivy]

Still think Val really misplayed his role.

Unless they were going to get condemned, this is true. Now Mafia are ascetic, which is a good thing? Depends on the setup but I'm imagining its not good

[camelCasedSnivy]

How did my wagon even vanish wth

[camelCasedSnivy]

How did my wagon even vanish wth

I didn't see the scum motivation in voting yourself. Seemed like a very noob town move.
It can be faked as an mafia player in order to fake acting like town,

but that requires more experience

. And it also seems unlikely for an relatively new player to pull such an card in one of their first non-newbie games on MS.

Clearly you've never played a game of mafia with me. (I have played on mafia.gg for quite a while)

[camelCasedSnivy]

How did my wagon even vanish wth

I didn't see the scum motivation in voting yourself. Seemed like a very noob town move.
It can be faked as an mafia player in order to fake acting like town,

but that requires more experience

. And it also seems unlikely for an relatively new player to pull such an card in one of their first non-newbie games on MS.

Clearly you've never played a game of mafia with me. (I have played on mafia.gg for quite a while)

im glad i gave you a chance to respond first because i was going to totally call you out on being experienced and esp in chat mafia which is hella prone to self voting as AtE LMFAO

+town for you to do so on your own since you likley did not think i would make that connection

How do you know?

[camelCasedSnivy]

i honestly dont like that im just consensus townread here bc scum at least wriggle a little when i have them in my sights and yeah.

gonna reexamine my townreads later but not tonight bcim high as shittttttttttttttttttt lol

...excuse me what now