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Egix did not participate in d3's vote at all, so that's not applicable.
d2, obviously Egix voted for Gamma, which does go against Egix's playing pattern that I skimmed through MU. But again, I dunno if that's a one-to-one comparison.
But what's really interesting is posts like 84 where Gamma's old slot Cookie was Egix's vote. This is different from the scum meta I saw earlier and if it is SvS it's totally out of the blue because Egix never mentioned Cookie in the post leading up to the vote.
All in all this does make Egix feel more townie.
LQ is still a tr for me.
I will say time and time again I think the scum team is StD and NM. I will not vote anywhere else at this point.-
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I'm almost certain you're not talking to me, but I want to confirm instead of making assumptions.In post 1850, LicketyQuickety wrote:Why are you so worried about being voted? You clearly are, as every time I talk about voting you you kinda go ballistic.-
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I was focusing on the word ballistic. Which means to go off in anger lol.
But to answer your question, I’d like to see what you’re talking about specifically, but I’m more defensive today as I believe it is ELo and while I’m fine being limmed in any other circumstances, being being limmed is a town loss, so I want to preserve that win condition.-
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Youre right. Change d2 to d1.In post 1861, Egix96 wrote:
I didn't vote d2 tho??In post 1848, DArby wrote:d2, obviously Egix voted for Gamma-
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Assuming this is ELo:
NM and I are not partners.
Given recent posts, (as I explained I expected earlier) NM and Egix are more than likely not scum together.
From LQ’s POV, I’d imagine the odds are really good scum is either me OR NM.
I’m sure LQ is town because he holds the swing vote and I don’t think scum would hold it this long.
I find it interesting NMs PoE is the exact opposite as mine.-
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Oh also, thinking about it more, if I was scum, wouldn’t I want to be here more during d2? If my partner or whatever is getting pushed hard, wouldn’t I want to either give myself towncred or try and defend her? I’d be able to tell in the scum PT that something was wrong, and in normal circumstances I’m not that passive of a player. Scum!me doesn’t make that much sense.-
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Was not caught in p-editIn post 1884, LicketyQuickety wrote:I'm now TRing DArby fairly strongly based on play (as well as their claim).
So I don't think I'm ever voting there. If NM is Scum, then I probably just die here. If I'm wrong and NM is actually Town, well, then maybe NM can learn to play better or something (smhmh).
But if NM is Scum here then I'm pretty sure they spew DArby and Egix as Town here. So that would point to the last Scum being StD.
All we need at this point are 3 TRs. And I liked Egix pointing out they didn't even vote on D2 when they didn't need to. I also think that Egix isn't playing like their Scum meta. They are Scum hunting more. And once it was put to rest that Egix doesn't include Nulls in their RL that made me feel a lot better about Egix.
So that's my solve. I think I was right in my initial read of there being 1 Scum in Pan/StD. Kinda surprised by that, but there you go.-
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Fair lol.In post 1889, LicketyQuickety wrote:
I thought it over and I think what I quoted from NM only comes from Scum being desperate.In post 1885, DArby wrote:What happened to waiting for StD?-
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Your move?In post 1886, Egix96 wrote:Hi-
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Egix and NM cannot be scum together.In post 1896, LicketyQuickety wrote:Well this means 1 of 2 things. Either NM is Scum with Egix, or NM and Egix are both Town. Pretty sure I am leaning the former.
I said it earlier but I think it holds up still. Scum can only come from one of {StD, LQ, D'Arby} and {Egix, NM}. I don't think any other combination is possible.-
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Wdym by "that"?In post 1900, LicketyQuickety wrote:
I don't think that is a bad solve at all.In post 1899, DArby wrote:
Egix and NM cannot be scum together.In post 1896, LicketyQuickety wrote:Well this means 1 of 2 things. Either NM is Scum with Egix, or NM and Egix are both Town. Pretty sure I am leaning the former.
I said it earlier but I think it holds up still. Scum can only come from one of {StD, LQ, D'Arby} and {Egix, NM}. I don't think any other combination is possible.-
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Haha no.In post 1909, LicketyQuickety wrote:
I mean, this looks like it could be an invest?In post 912, T3 wrote:
Darby is townIn post 903, DArby wrote:
Reasons.In post 838, Enchant wrote:
Why not?In post 831, DArby wrote:
I don’t trust this.In post 813, Pan Smierc wrote:I was the target of the neighborizor btw
Give me like 48 hours and I can explain this.-
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That post is an acknowledgment that I didn’t think Gamma was in bad faith.
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My interaction with Pan is for the same reason as T3’s town read on me and I cannot elaborate further.In post 1915, LicketyQuickety wrote:
Like, this and other interactions like it between DArby and Pan just give me the creeps. You sort of pull this gentle sort of killing you with kindness thing and it's just weird.In post 932, DArby wrote:
I said I don't trust you. That has nothing to do with my read on you. Please calm down while I read through d2.In post 893, Pan Smierc wrote:StD why do I keep you Darby and LQ alive?
This Day you have been totally different. I call that a change in narrative and IMO it's a reason to SR you based on play.-
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Also Egix, LQ and I cannot be the scum team together for multiple reasons.
If we’re not the scum team together, then that means that 1 other scum is outside the {LQ, D’Arby} block. This means either a) one of us is scum with NM or StD or b) NM is scum with StD. You are not scum.
If one of us is scum with StD, then we would have waited longer for StD to hammer. There’s no reason to have a wagon atp with majority town. If one of us was scum with NM, then we would have no reason to push there as this is probably ELo.
It makes more sense that NM and StD are the scum team, I think.-
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I am genuinely touched you think I could pull something that complex off.In post 1927, Not_Mafia wrote:
The point is the N1/N2 Neighbouriser serves a very clear and specific purpose; to make a neighbourhood early in the game, the back-up is insurance. Neighbourhoods are of very little utility. This is not comparable to what we have here, we (allegedly) have a detective split across two player slots, with either two scum or two scum + traitor, this is STRONGER than a full detective in this set-up as even if scum manage to kill the detective early, they now have the back-up to deal with and with just two scum capable of killing plus no false positives. This is an apples and oranges comparisonIn post 1908, LicketyQuickety wrote:
I can't believe you are doubling down on this.In post 1907, Not_Mafia wrote:
No they are completely different, night specific is very simple and has a clear use in the balance of the set-up, the role works on those night and the back-up is there in case the role gets eliminated d1.In post 1883, LicketyQuickety wrote:
LOL. This is a really terrible argument.In post 1862, Not_Mafia wrote:Plus night specific is different to X-shot
VOTE: NM
Back-up X-shot could be implemented multiple ways and has no standardisation anywhere that we can see. Plus if we go off the wiki definition, DArby would have his own 2 shots, essentially giving us a 4-shot detective, split across two player slots in an 11p. This is not balanced and would not be approved by the NRG for multiple reasons
In the case a 2-Shot goes down N1 it's literally the same exact thing as a night-specific. The game in question is a N1/N2 and I was a backup WITH NO QUALIFICATIONS of N1/N2. It would actually be BETTER if the role died there because then I would have gotten to use the ability every night.
You're right that there's no standardization of X-shot backup, but it's the exact same for night specific.
And irt getting 4 shots, that's actually not true because, for example, we don't know if T3 actually used any of their shots or who they were on. So you can't say it's 4 full shots because this game demonstrates that we don't actually know anything about T3's invests. And Darby clearly said in the same post they claimed that they were 2-Shot. That's exactly what I would expect in this setup if DArby's claim is legit.
But I'll
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for now and give you a chance to give your own setup spec for this game. Like what do you think is realistic for PRs for this game? What are you thinking with Traitor? Or do you think it's just 2 Group Scum? Like, 2 TPRs with a backup seems very reasonable in a 2 Group Scum with a Traitor. So what setup are you seeing here?
At the minute I think there's just two group scum, there just being two scum explains a lot; the inability to get an elimination or clear consensus here and that I only really have an active scumread on DArby. Plus it's a good play for DArby here to claim Detective, claim a dubious role but skate by on being a PR and come in to tomorrow with a BS guilty, giving him the ability to control the 1v1.-
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The return of the kingIn post 1941, Save The Dragons wrote:Will catch up tomorrow-
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