Mini Normal 2248 | A Member Of The Arsonists | Town wins

[Gamma Emerald]

sup nerds
I'll probably read in a bit but if anyone wants to give a sparknotes of the game that'd be cool

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UNVOTE:

[Gamma Emerald]

I haven’t read at all, I just unvoted on principle
But if you wanna towncase darby that’s cool

[Gamma Emerald]

Darby seems slightly towny by ISO
I also have a slot I’d very much like dead, probably over this whole thunderdome thing (which kinda looks like TvT even to my unfocused eye)

[Gamma Emerald]

I think that’s his townblock

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I think I get why Pan think Fenny is scum

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Deadline

: FROZEN

What does this mean

It means the deadline is STOPPED while replacements are being found

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Meg

Explain your scumread on me if you care to

I was Scum reading Klick. I think Koba is either right about Klick or bussing.

Plus you would rather vote for NM and ask why I am voting you rather than doing anything productive.

I need to actually look but scum!Klick tends to be disengaged from having seen 2 of his scumgames pretty recently

[Gamma Emerald]

Actually nah I think Klick is town
I pretty much take my initial feelings on Klick and flip them because I feel like he’s scummy to me when town and towny to me when scum

[Gamma Emerald]

I’d expect 2 scum or 3 with 1 being a traitor
I have no real PoE set up as of yet

[Gamma Emerald]

I’d expect 2 scum or 3 with 1 being a traitor
I have no real PoE set up as of yet

i dont care if its not a real PoE, post what you feel now. I want to be able to draw progression for you because I know that is somewhere you struggle to fake as scum.

You, Meg, DArby town, StD and NM possible scum
That’s basically what I’ve got rn

[Gamma Emerald]

And I am very curious what about your exp with me says I struggle to fake progression as scum, you saw my Moongrass read in townstumps

[Gamma Emerald]

And I am very curious what about your exp with me says I struggle to fake progression as scum, you saw my Moongrass read in townstumps

single slot progression sure but holistic? no.

wut

[Gamma Emerald]

but also i have to stick to something and my MO is always to reeval over time

Rigidity for rigidity’s sake is folly imo
If you’re rethinking something actually think it over

[Gamma Emerald]

I think we just Elim StD here and if they flip Town then we flip Pan next.

VOTE: StD

but you could be playing outside your MO for fun

i dont play for fun

Fucking EM tryhard

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why do you think it's me

I don't have a super-strong feeling that it is, but how else is Pan getting elimmed?

I think Pan's points against you are not bad though.

LMAO
Quick might be scum here if StD is town

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma, what do you think of my StD/Pan SvT read?

Reads like chaining miselims from how you’re applying it

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And I am very curious what about your exp with me says I struggle to fake progression as scum, you saw my Moongrass read in townstumps

single slot progression sure but holistic? no.

wut

someday i will teach u when you decide you want to wim in your games again

Why do I have to have WIM to learn what holistic progression is

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why do you think it's me

I don't have a super-strong feeling that it is, but how else is Pan getting elimmed?

I think Pan's points against you are not bad though.

LMAO
Quick might be scum here if StD is town

That's nice. Now engage me with the question I asked you. You're avoiding talking to me directly for some reason and IDK why.

VOTE: LicketyQuickety
This is scum badgering.

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why do you think it's me

I don't have a super-strong feeling that it is, but how else is Pan getting elimmed?

I think Pan's points against you are not bad though.

do you wanna like talk about it and engage with me

My gut reaction to you voting Why is that I thought it was Scummy. It would be like you doing the same thing to NM. I don't think you need to do that as Town. I think as Town you can find Scum without needing to do a PE.

Check the OP lol

[Gamma Emerald]

That way of getting on me for not interacting with you is something I’ve seen scum explicitly do to me before, in mini 2234 GrandpaMo did that sort of thing

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What for?

Look at who replaced Why

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That way of getting on me for not interacting with you is something I’ve seen scum explicitly do to me before, in mini 2234 GrandpaMo did that sort of thing

and? are you talking with the same person?

No but I think it’s not a thing exclusive to one person

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And I think based on GrandpaMo also bitching about my aimless questioning in the game I referenced, GMo and LQ are actually comparable players for me

[Gamma Emerald]

And I think based on GrandpaMo also bitching about my aimless questioning in the game I referenced, GMo and LQ are actually comparable players for me

Not at all. You're dealing with a one-of-a-kind player here. I have very obscure reasons for my reads. It's a hallmark of my play.

But sure, how are GMo and I the same? This is just a really terrible read. I still TR you but this is just bad.

The same criticism you had of my questioning in ln 235 was repeated by GMo in mini 2234, that’s what I’m saying is similar between you
There could be more as well but that’s the notable bit

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And I think based on GrandpaMo also bitching about my aimless questioning in the game I referenced, GMo and LQ are actually comparable players for me

u are intentioanlly ignoring my next post where i say its NAI for gpamo lmfao

Don’t buy it
I found scum!GMo in that game in part because he kept badgering me to engage with his questions @ me.

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And I think based on GrandpaMo also bitching about my aimless questioning in the game I referenced, GMo and LQ are actually comparable players for me

u are intentioanlly ignoring my next post where i say its NAI for gpamo lmfao

Don’t buy it
I found scum!GMo in that game in part because he kept badgering me to engage with his questions @ me.

then you got lucky idk what to say lmao, its not a good metric to find scum.

I said in part
The issue really arose when he started overlooking my answers and trying to push me in spite of that

[Gamma Emerald]

I still the Quick’s read on Pan+StD is scummy tho
I’d also vote StD if I had to tho because I feel like his level of give-a-damn seems a bit scummy

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VOTE: StD
I actually like that LQ had the guts to vote Pan

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btw fully verifiable via reading ISOs, if I am wrong I will update but overall this is accurate to the best of my memory ^

Okay no that’s not why StD is scum if he’s scum, LQ can back me up on that

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Except Pan has a shit read rate on me

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Like I straight up don’t play to Pan’s rulebook

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HAHAHAHAHA
keep lying to yourself then, because I know that’s a load of shit!

[Gamma Emerald]

The title doesn’t mean anything for the setup? But no it wouldn’t be mountainous

[Gamma Emerald]

Game died. Probably both wagons are Town.

Why dead game?

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VOTE: Not_Mafia
What if we speed-yeeted NM?

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Nah
I stand by my thought that Klick’s posting looking as scummy as it does is probably town-indicative for him
And idg what’s wrong with Meg’s posting either

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So did Squid Game factor into the proceedings here at all

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VOTE: meg
w/e

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that's e-1

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this feels real fking weird after the neighborhood where you fought your lim without end?

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...I can see that I think

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Neighborizers get access to their PT at rand

I believe this is true but Ben never fucking interacted with or addressed me so you’re really gonna push a “legacy read” someone never bothered to push on their own?

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I still the Quick’s read on Pan+StD is scummy tho
I’d also vote StD if I had to tho because I feel like his level of give-a-damn seems a bit scummy

VOTE: StD
I actually like that LQ had the guts to vote Pan

Agreed with StD. Not only this is a bad take but it contradicts itself with no progression.

Wrong. I didn’t like how it felt like Quick was chaining mislims. The Pan vote changed my feelings about that, because before then it felt like LQ was setting Pan up to take a fall when StD flipped town.

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I'm 90% sure that the StD/Pan argument is v/v, they both had respectable opinions of Why that didn't correlate to their alignments whatsoever and then shit went bonkers and their argument basically has been reduced to calling each other scum for the logical loopholes of the opposing argument which I don't see currently.

The only valid reasoning I've witnessed is Pan's TMI on Why, and Pan's explanation is a little wild but it still makes some sense to me.
There's way more to be seen for people who are taking advantage of this shitfest opportunistically.

LQ is probably just town just genuinely sorting and TSTBS or whatever you guys call that on this site.
Gamma comparing LQ to a completely different player Gamma's votes are not great either.
NM votes are boooo, we got scummy players around now so we should elim them.
I'm still good with T3 town but he's fallen off the board pretty hard recently so I'm not that confident in him like I am with StD and Pan
I have a feeling that Darby might be just dead air dead villager, because absolutely no one has been defending him until recently which at least cuts him off from any teams with active teammates
Meg's 180 on StD is bleh and not a good look, as well as their LQ vote.

StD Pan LQ
T3 Darby
NM Egix Enchant
Gamma Meg

VOTE: Meg

I'm glad this game got so much more readable.

Oooo, top wagons are Gamma and Meg. This is a juicy EoD. Hopefully I'll be back tomorrow before EoD so I can check how the thread is doing before the flip is posted.

Wait
I actually forgot about these posts, but he still never bothered to actually engage w me about anything so I’m not gonna let a push predicated on this read stand

[Gamma Emerald]

Can you just, fucking not do this for one game?

[Gamma Emerald]

You clearly didn't since you didnt apologize for accusing me of lying

I don't remember changing my read on you.

You and darby can have fun tossing this game tbh im not arguing against you im just gonna disprove whatever you throw at me like you are now and carry you(once again)

K, how about you find me an actual example where the PT goes through even though the slot dies. That's all you have to do to change my mind.

you're saying pan shouldn't have been added because ben was killed right? imo that's a grey area that's up to the mod

[Gamma Emerald]

NAR dictates that if a CL is killed that their action from that night isn't counted. CLs can't exist in normal games but the same NAR principles apply
so depending on where "neighborize" sits in NAR should dictate what happens, actually

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cool
now let LQ speak up for himself instead of being a dick!

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so where did the grey area come up?

wanna explain?

VOTE: gamma

also revoting bc im annoyed and i honestly think just getting rid of scum is more useful for this gamestate before people start changing minds in the wrong direction

it came up because I'm lazy-brain amd didn't think "hey NAR should provide a clear explanation for whether this should be the case or not"

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VOTE: gamma emerald
whatever, this game is basically filled with gamethrowing assholes
let this serve as a reminder to never replace into a game blind because it's fucking miserable

[Gamma Emerald]

I had like zero stake in this game but it was a fun train wreck to be a part of for even a brief moment

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Also: did mastina review this because this setup was VERY townsided

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a fakeclaim to what end, it's a useless fucking role

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Yeah exactly
Imo a traitor as third scum would have balanced this pretty well

[Gamma Emerald]

lol true