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[Andante]

I need flips to happen before I tr people for "consistency" just sayin

[Andante]

I mean, I do agree that frozen's (and I guess mine too) back and forth has sorta killed the game but I don't think that's a very good reason to just vote out town and people using it as a reason look mighty bad.

mehh too many people coasting is killing it tbh (sure throw me in the coasters) like, half the game is doing bare minimum rn and the other half is death tunneling

Looking at read lists they are almost inverse of post counts.. you might be on to something here.

on to something? it's just facts, like, maf is MORE LIKELY to coast by doing nothing than going after people. and well, we have 3-4 super vocal people, and like 10 not doing too much, like look at names, what do you recall from them?

Stephen: Started strong with a random tunnel then has definitely fallen off and gotten quiet
Greeting: I couldn't tell you a single post from greeting, I don't remember any
Umlaut: Seems to just tunnel me? idk what the plan is... but is not trying to advance any reads, just weakly pushing me while not voting me
Scorp: got weird with the e-1 stuff, overall isn't making original reads I don't think, just reading the room and seeing what's agreed upon
----- All those above are on the same wagon... just saying
Frozen: I really need to read her posts, and have liked the ones I have read, probably trying the most out of everyone here, overall good vibes
fire: has brought up some good points, I'm not certain those make fire town though, fire feels a lot like scorp, just reading the room, trying not to stir up anything, trying to be well liked
Nero: A lot like Frozen with all the effort, I TR nero, sure nero isn't a perfect tr, but I don't expect town to be a perfect tr
the worst: definitely coasting.. shows up once all the activity dies down, says a few things, doesn't seem to actually be trying to find maf
Eyes: I haven't seen anything significant lately, it's almost like Eyes is expecting to get TRed from sitting out, and coasting
wave: I couldn't tell you a single post by wave, wave is another coaster
Dwlee: uhhh they exist? I haven't seen much
Hockey: Trying to tunnel me? but not pushing too hard, and is literally just wasting time by focussing on me, and ignoring everything else happening



So yes... half the game is coasting, and we for sure have a maf in them, but hey, if the active people wanna keep tunneling each other.. so be it

[Andante]

yall realize we vote out nero, it won't make these other people talk... I dont sr nero or frozen right now

[Andante]

wave shows up at the most suspicious times... why is anyone ok with this nero wagon after wave comes out of no where "yeah! e-1!!"

[Andante]

the nero wagon is so bad... the only person on it I tr is frozen, the rest? lol no

[Andante]

@andante read 1469 if you missed it

Oh I was here with the duck... and all that.. "if we can get 7 votes...."

[Andante]

wave shows up at the most suspicious times... why is anyone ok with this nero wagon after wave comes out of no where "yeah! e-1!!"

Why were you ok with nero wagon last night to vote him?

cause I didn't read anything? was like, ok sure whatever, I liked where stephen was like "just give frozen what she wants" I mean, looking into it now? no I'm not ok with it. at all

[Andante]

idk what I want here.. I don't want this nero wagon to go through, I don't like too many on the wagon. I want a coaster d1

[Andante]

exactly. I got called out for pushing umlaut, and I was wrong.. now it looks scummy

false. you can push umlaut if you want, but not for absurd reasons that contradict your own past opinions

and you obviously *know* this, because it's been explained you dozens of times now. do not pretend like it hasn't

but I will relentlessly continue to correct your attempts to downplay the case against you, because I'm worried some players are no longer closely reading this game

don't you think it gets old you throwing a yellow flag on EVERY post I write?

Like, you are "so sure" I'm scum, almost borderline TMI..

Still trying to gather the 7 votes you need? It's just trite man

well if you're town, wave is definitely maf.. just sayin

[Andante]

I was the first player in this game to express suspicion of nero cain

wouldn't that make you more likely to be mafia? like, more likely to go "hey partner you're being sus"

[Andante]

@andante read 1469 if you missed it

Oh I was here with the duck... and all that.. "if we can get 7 votes...."

so you're just going to ignore the actual case? i thought you wanted a lim on a coaster anyway, so if that's how you see him, what's the problem?

what kind of question is that? like I'm not randomly limming in the coasters. wave is looking like the best one right now tbh

[Andante]

if wave TRs greeting, I'm voting greeting no brakes

[Andante]

lol that silence is enough for me!

VOTE: wave

[Andante]

idk what I want here.. I don't want this nero wagon to go through, I don't like too many on the wagon. I want a coaster d1

Spoiler: Here's a coaster for you

Do you like it?

LOL I LOVE IT

[Andante]

I wanted Andante more(cuz i thoughe she was scummier),
I still think FA is scummier. Also, I will vote FA closer to EOD,

So I'm no longer scummy? All I did was disappear.. you're waiting till EOD to vote Frozen? Why? You want less possible time to deal with explaining a Frozen SR? This post is so bad. it screams maf... "Andante push isn't happening no more, so uhhh I no longer sr her" "I don't wanna 1v1 Frozen so I'm waiting"

No way you're town....

[Andante]

Frozen is very passionate about this... even though I think it's town, I'll go with you here, I know how it can be when you think you're on to something, and no one's listening, sorry Nero!! Frozen is the most passionate one here! I'd at least like to flip her top SR to then see where reads go afterwards.

VOTE: Nero

[Andante]

Look Nero could be scum here and be right about this

scum and right? which team are you playing for here lol

[Andante]

VOTE: Nero Cain

As promised. I am down to yeet him or the duck right now.

I'll get duck tomorrow!!! (or tonight )

[Andante]

hey andante guess what

if wave TRs greeting, I'm voting greeting no brakes

I think I've said all game I lean town on greeting

I think their play has been consistent with what I've always seen, nothing that's been pointed out lately has changed that

in fact I'm pretty sure I posted a reads list some pages back where they were pretty high up lol. so this is really not news?

YOOOOO THAT'S A THING!!! umm look, I'll figure out that situation later, Frozen wants Nero, Frozen gets Nero. no one is distracting me from this. And yes I think it flips town, but I'm not auto tunneling Frozen for it tomorrow, I'm dealing with duck/wave/greeting later

[Andante]

Look Nero could be scum here and be right about this

scum and right? which team are you playing for here lol

VOTE: Nero Cain

As promised. I am down to yeet him or the duck right now.

I'll get duck tomorrow!!! (or tonight )

Whatever team you're on

How are you sure I'm not maf? that a scumslip?

[Andante]

I was informed pregame you're town

hmmmm

[Andante]

Spoiler: For Andante ONLY

Eyes please

Spoiler: For Dwlee99 ONLY

Hmmm you do bring up a good point... ughh that makes 4 I'm looking at...

I'm busy today, I'll make some sort of decision later
UNVOTE:

[Andante]

i wanna be super clear that everyone sees here how much more willing andante is to vote someone she townreads (sorry Nero, FA is too passionate!! I must vote you! I have no choice!!) than greeting, someone she has repeatedly dodged around giving an opinion on (i don't remember anything he posted!! i will vote him if wavemode townreads!! oh, he did? uhhh gotta go bye)

if i die tonight someone promise me you shall carry this information on to the people who are not reading the thread

+ her inconsistencies back then when first nero wagon was made

She is not developing any read on nero while claiming its a TR.

She is like the only slot I might actually vote over nero today as I said.

lmao what? “town trust me and vote nero”
me: ok sure
“i’ll vote andan out!!!”

My reads can and have been wrong as town before, if you won’t drop the idea of nero being maf, might as well go with you on that, otherwise you’ll just spend all game “NERO MAF!!!” plus hey, if nero flips maf? awesome!

[Andante]

lol yall hammered it.. nice... I hope it flips maf

[Andante]

Andante just doesn’t give an f. Not sure if this is AI though.

lmaoo that puts me in a bottom tier? I think I'm top tier!

[Andante]

no no it's ok!!! Why did yall even yeet Greeting? I didn't even sr him

[Andante]

I can definitely promise you I'll get rid of the duck, not as certain on Nero, but duck will go!!!

[Andante]

I feel bad I wasn't here to fight against it Sounds like yall limmed Greeting without a claim too

[Andante]

duck isn't living to day 2 sooooo yall can go party in dead thread together

[Andante]

VOTE: Stephen
Until I see a reason to not vote here, I'm voting here

[Andante]

VOTE: Stephen
Until I see a reason to not vote here, I'm voting here

Went from "I'll just sheep Frozen" when there was a wagon forming on Nero. to jumping on this greeting thing for no reason. I think it's indicative of Stephen + Nero maf

[Andante]

fam what made you go to Greeting yesterday?

[Andante]

whatever, you can live till tomorrow I guess.
VOTE: Nero

I the greeting wagon was so successful cause Nero is maf, and the Nero wagon basically dissapeared after getting to E-1

[Andante]

@Stephen You do realize that's 800 posts apart right?

@Nero And I was gonna say "I think limming you just makes me see everything more clearly" but I got to thinking about the kill, and I'm not entirely certain you kill Frozen as maf
so I'm just gonna UNVOTE: and figure this out later

I didn't like how Greeting went from:

Post 188 also seems to be spot-on on

Stephen A Smith

. Repping into a game to post a completely random, unsubstantiated suspicion list (71) and then get into a heated argument with the top "culprit" just doesn't make sense as town play at all. Is this some kind of past-game grudge that I don't know of? 82 seems to be suggesting that, but then, in 156

Dwlee99

claims they know nothing of it.

You not about to stand there pretending you have the short term memory of a goldfish on me are you?

The pressure

Stephen A Smith

is seemingly putting on

Dwlee99

seems completely out of place to me.

As for their later posts, the rebuffs to their obviously very disruptive play seem to be overly aggressive, as in 192 or 196. Sure, they've repped in a short while ago, but why would it even matter when almost all they've literally posted is unnecessary banter.

VOTE: Stephen A Smith until they convince me they're town.

maybe stephen town for continuing to persits 1 thing instead of just letting it go(cuz it doesn't benefit him as mafia to do this).

This depends on who Stephen's main is

The playstyle reminds me of House.

And yes, I would say that spamming the crap out of the game benefits the mafia hugely and acts as a distracting force.

to

Alright, I guess I'll just drop this list. The varying shades of green are townreads of Day 1. I feel like each player I had suspected in this game so far has given me something suggesting that they're

not

scum. I suppose I had a choice to keep going with either of them, but I'd just be going against my gut at this point.

wavemode

Andante
Dwlee99
the worst
Nero Cain
Umlaut
Scorpious

fireisredsir

Eyes without a face

Frozen Angel

Stephen A Smith

Greeting

HockeyFan

There might be a scum or even two amongst those coloured light green.

I'm just unable to spot them yet.

Those coloured a darker shade green are firmer townreads in my eyes and I will not be pursuing them today.

I can be swayed to vote anyone shaded white.

Andante

,

Dwlee99

or

Nero Cain

are preferable. I'm more hesitant on

Scorpious

, but he isn't off the table either.

VOTE: Nero Cain

@

Nero Cain

, I actually have read your ISO and it's really bad. My conclusion is that it's full of indecisiveness, throwing hooks and attempts to catch other players over mere words. I can totally see a scum making all of your posts.

[Andante]

because Frozen Angel wanted to kill you and now she's dead and if you were town I imagine the scum would let her stay alive to scream for another 80 pages about how you are lock scum and need to die.

See, that's where I'm not certain Nero kills Frozen... Frozen was probably killed cause maf couldn't keep up (such as wave) like, Froen was tunneling Nero and me, neither of us died day , so like, Frozen isn't a major threat to the maf team, however, all the posting meant maf couldn't keep up, which is a major issue for maf

[Andante]

I have more thoughts, can people please not hammer while I'm busy again? thanks! I'll be back in like 4-5ish hours, have things to do! people to see!

[Andante]

These 2 posts... "I'm voting Nero cause he's maf!" then "well if he flips town, you're next for TMI!!"

Also, I'm not even sure how I'd have TMI as town, so I think you need to think about what TMI even is. I gave my thoughts on the kill. Why would Frozen die there? Frozen clearly didn't get the wagon she campaigned for all day. So Option 1) Killed cause she was right ok, why else could Frozen die? well Option 2) Maf couldn't keep up, got lost, and there's option 3)Killed for being pretty clearly town, cause maf does not ever try that hard

My first thought is that someone's desperate to frame Nero. Greeting was his counterwagon and only Frozen was voting him along with Greeting.

This means that once again I won't be voting Nero today. In fact that's the first thing I have decided to do (or not to do actually) today.

I think you are overthinking this.

VOTE: Nero Cain

because Frozen Angel wanted to kill you and now she's dead and if you were town I imagine the scum would let her stay alive to scream for another 80 pages about how you are lock scum and need to die.

See, that's where I'm not certain Nero kills Frozen... Frozen was probably killed cause maf couldn't keep up (such as wave) like, Froen was tunneling Nero and me, neither of us died day , so like, Frozen isn't a major threat to the maf team, however, all the posting meant maf couldn't keep up, which is a major issue for maf

And if Nero does flip town this seems TMI to me.

[Andante]

My dilemma: I want to vote Nero, but I didn't like the composition of the d1 nero wagon, and I don't like the composition of today's nero wagon

[Andante]

VOTE: eyes

[Andante]

The other two were wave and Umlaut

there is no way these 2 are strong TRs

[Andante]

i am a mushroom in an open field

[Andante]

VOTE: dwlee

VOTE: eyes

why vote eyes here tho?

Presumably the vig shot failed so scum wanted it to fail. If it was gonna hit town it wouldn't have been blocked sooo

I'm not a vig, I think that much is pretty clear....

[Andante]

VOTE: Nero
why am I not letting that happen?

[Andante]

cause yall limmed greeting without me.. not like you needed me for that

[Andante]

VOTE: eyes

yes, eyes is maf

[Andante]

I'm probably going to explain this poorly, but if feels like with Frozen dead, eyes has changed their playstyle, feel more confident that they're not gonna draw suspicion/a wagon. idk it's a weird feeling

also that night with the worst not caring and just voting wherever... that still doesn't sit right with me, I need to look into that.

I'm not opposed to nero yeet today, like it will give a lot of info with the wagon stuff, if nero town, the greeting wagon was likely driven by town

[Andante]

VOTE: Nero
why am I not letting that happen?

VOTE: eyes

yes, eyes is maf

Adante, you're better than this

yeah I'm aware I am, there's just stuff I need to do readwise I haven't done yet

[Andante]

UNVOTE:
Don't random yeet someone, I wanna think about this. I need to fix my reads, even if tonight will be a late night cause of it, I'll have reads tonight. yall can hold me to that

[Andante]

UNVOTE:
Don't random yeet someone, I wanna think about this. I need to fix my reads, even if tonight will be a late night cause of it, I'll have reads tonight. yall can hold me to that

what part of the world are you in?

LMAOOO it'll be late... before the next 24 hours though

[Andante]

UNVOTE:
Don't random yeet someone, I wanna think about this. I need to fix my reads, even if tonight will be a late night cause of it, I'll have reads tonight. yall can hold me to that

what part of the world are you in?

LMAOOO it'll be late... before the next 24 hours though

lol changed my mind... not happening today

[Andante]

Adante,who you voting for?

That is a very good question. I don't know yet. I don't like nero posting this duck recipe, so I'm probably inclined to vote there?

[Andante]

There's still 5 days 20 hours though!!!

[Andante]

Scorp, I have a question for you, how do you think town should be playing right now? Coasting? Sheeping Frozen and calling it a day? Posting duck recipes? like, what do you think, town should be doing at this point in this game?

[Andante]

Scorp, I have a question for you, how do you think town should be playing right now? Coasting? Sheeping Frozen and calling it a day? Posting duck recipes? like, what do you think, town should be doing at this point in this game?

I'm still at a point where I dont know who's friends with who.

like,is that an inside joke with the worst, or just nonsense.

I can tell you it doesnt advance the game or help us solve the game at all. My vote is there, I'm not going to eyes. That wagon has Greeting written all over it.

So what should the ideal town be doing here right now?

[Andante]

VOTE: Umlaut

[Andante]

wheres all this sus on Umulat coming from, i just dont see it

Surye was maf, and Umlaut has done nothing to change my mind. gg

[Andante]

wheres all this sus on Umulat coming from, i just dont see it

Surye was maf, and Umlaut has done nothing to change my mind. gg

Also I'm a believer of Umlaut is the coasting maf. everyone has 100+ posts here, umlaut doesn't even have 50

[Andante]

Umlaut wanted the Frozen kill to keep up

[Andante]

Also just uhh look at the Umlaut ISO.. it's maf trying to find busywork without actually having to commit to a solve/read

[Andante]

Datisi has more posts than Umlaut... I understand Umlaut replaced in, but I don't see any like "I'm solving!" there it's just kinda reacting to the dumb stuff us town talked about

[Andante]

I'll agree to lim Umlaut on the understanding we flip eyes next

I don't do chain eliminations. You have to present a case

[Andante]

Adante,
a CTRL-F on your Iso regarding Nero is absolutely horrible, I must say.

ok? Why are you deflecting from me wanting Umlaut? is the team just umlaut eyes you?

[Andante]

Scorpious, doesn't matter what my Nero thoughts are, that's what happens when yall force me to make a read. Umlaut is maf, and there is like no denying that fact.

[Andante]

maybe all 3 maf were on the greeting wagon

LMAO I highly doubt that... it was probably a mostly town wagon tbh, yall know I was off cause I just wasn't here, also I'd have strongly opposed it if I was... but whatever, can we pleaseeeee flip umlaut?

[Andante]

viewtopic.php?f=11&t=88666

This has just ended. Maybe some of you would like a fresh meta read as well as see how SCUM try to set me up from the get go. I don't see much difference between what TTTT was doing there and what Dwlee is doing here except TTTT was actually pretending to play the game and Dwlee doesn't even bother to do that

look, I want to lim Umlaut here. please join that wagon with me. thanks

[Andante]

since you pulled your Nero vote after I declared intent.

yeah cause hammer means I'm committed to that vote and I'm scared of commitment soooo let's go umlaut!!! Look, I'll sheep you on whatever read if I'm wrong. I don't think I'm wrong on umlaut maf

[Andante]

you do realize I made a similar case yesterday and got blasted for it,right?

nah didn't read it, and if you made a similar case against umlaut, easy. I just plan on forcing this to happen, so if you wanna join my side, legooo

[Andante]

@Town Umlaut is maf. vote Umlaut gg

[Andante]

@Andante: OK.. but please give me some hypothetical reasoning as to why scum umlaut might be defending town me today. I am such an easy target to lim right now. Do you think Umlaut expected me to be eliminated and is whiteknighting? Or is he trying to build some fake associatives? Or maybe it's a pocket attempt? But if it was he was in no immediate danger at the time so why do it? And why me when I'm one of players with the least impact on the game anyway (nobody listens to me)?

So, I don't think it's a pocket and I don't think building assciatives with me helps either. WKing is a possibility but I wasn't "that" close to lim (was not put @E-1), so WHY is Umlaut defending me at all?

if you're town, umlaut is trying to win your vote for whoever he wants to vote today by going "hey.. I know you're town! I got you!" if you're maf? idk, I'd need to read the context. Surye was maf! I caught Surye. Surye left. Umlaut came in. Umlaut has not been towny, and has LESS POSTS THAN THE MOD... and significantly less then the next lowest, there's no complaints about being behind, so I think Umlaut has just been very unsure about what to say/where to jump in. I will not do anymore reading until Umlaut goes

[Andante]

Umlaut is mafia. yeet umlaut

[Andante]

Adante could be a pr with a result.

uh does that kinda look like it was supposed to be posted in maf chat to anyone else

why would you say this

lol I agree with that was probably meant for maf chat XD get umlaut first though

[Andante]

Gamestate right now

Dw-vote eyes
Ad-vote umlaut
Me-vote Nero

That’s essentially it today

if you're convinced I'm pr with a result, why not vote with me? the fact you're not voting with me makes me convinced that was a slip. meant to go to maf chat

[Andante]

If people wanna get scorp first I'm down with that, but Umlaut is definitely still maf lol

[Andante]

this sudden silence speaks volumes

[Andante]

Look. If you are outing the fact you think I'm a pr with a guilty, why are you not voting Umlaut with me?

[Andante]

Like, essentially this is you right now: ANDANTE IS A PR!!!

[Andante]

2 minutes between your posts, I post, 7 minutes for you to respond

[Andante]

but like... why... if andante is a PR with a result she will decide if it's useful to share that info. when is it ever a good idea to speculate on that without any good reason

like, Scorp said that then completly acted like he didn't... it's just like, it doesn't add up for that to not be a slip

[Andante]

GG LET'S GOOOOOOO THIS GAME IS GOING PLACES NOW!!! FOUND THE ENERGY I NEED FOR THIS

[Andante]

Scorpious, why is town you outing PR reads. especially on me here

[Andante]

I was trying the "build a treehouse strat" you didn't cooperate... like, I asked you what town should be doing, and your response was just "voting nero"

[Andante]

Is it bad I don't even want to yeet Scorpious yet? I'd rather get umlaut first?

[Andante]

Scorpious, why is town you outing PR reads. especially on me here

stop ignoring this Scorpious. why are you outing here that you think I'm a pr

[Andante]

2 minutes between your posts, I post, 7 minutes for you to respond

This is ridiculous, you know that right? Where could an American adult be at 1:16pm.. maybe idk… at work?

I mean, when I'm in class, I'm not focussing on this game... I'm waiting till I have time to actually be here..

[Andante]

VOTE: eyes

bye bye eyes!!! umlaut is definitely partner lol

[Andante]

Hmm.

Still want to give them a chance to revise that claim before launching them over it (townies fakeclaim VT all the time even though they shouldn't) but in principle I'm willing to vote them.

eyes literally went "im vt yeet me over hockey" yesterday

[Andante]

should i hammer now i'm so bored

yes!!!

[Andante]

VOTE: umlaut

umlaut is maf

[Andante]

VOTE: stephen

i'm p sure someone else is hinting at a guilty on eyes but i don't really think eyes is scum

sorry for holding the game hostage for a minute there

[Andante]

umlaut is maf

[Andante]

umlaut has been playing this game too safe... and having significantly less posts than the next lowest is confirming it in my mind. Also, gut told me surye maf

[Andante]

duck is no longer claiming a mech guilty, and now TRs the person the guilty was on

[Andante]

ahh ok I think I see what you're saying now!! my bad!! I'm kinda only half reading, Stephen, you want Nero here? I can abandon my Umlaut SR for a nero vote. Nero had gotten significantly worse as the game has gone on

[Andante]

like idk, stephen/scorp semes palatable, barely seen any interaction between these 2

why does only stephen/scorp interaction matter? I think stephen is town

[Andante]

ahh ok I think I see what you're saying now!! my bad!! I'm kinda only half reading, Stephen, you want Nero here? I can abandon my Umlaut SR for a nero vote. Nero had gotten significantly worse as the game has gone on

???

Tell me how Nero has gotten worse.

You think Nero's game has gotten better? Please explain more on that...

VOTE: Nero

[Andante]

does andante actually answer questions?

yeah I do, questions that I see and haven't already answered. if you have an urgent question I can put it on my list to answer tomorrow

[Andante]

does andante actually answer questions?

yeah I do, questions that I see and haven't already answered. if you have an urgent question I can put it on my list to answer tomorrow

(list is currently empty)

[Andante]

which nero post do you find townie again?

I can not be fucked to sift through 25 pages of thier interactions. Anwyays, i decided that thier interaction was t/s, and i found FA scummier since she repeated the same talking abounts about 20 times

uhhh so your read you're sticking to is the same read that told you Frozen was maf... and now that frozen is flipped town, that just automatically makes that "tr" from earlier maf? If I'm SRing someone, and they flip town, I tend to reconsider that thought process...

[Andante]

nero is e-1 and not hammered? while yall speed voted greeting… lol ok even more confident in this vote!!

[Andante]

nero is e-1 and not hammered? while yall speed voted greeting… lol ok even more confident in this vote!!

This is becoming quite annoying

What's annoying? Nero had a very strong day 1, but I'm guessing it was the result of going back and forth with Frozen, which I didn't account for, day 2 Nero has basically dissapeared. And I like what someone said, Frozen had to at least be right on Nero, or else she wouldn't have died. Enough signs point towards Nero that I feel good about it.

[Andante]

Sorry it took me a while to get here, but now that I'm here, I don't think I'm leaving

[Andante]

I mean, I think it's giving nero a chance to claim, which is fine, still 4 days left for people to decide

[Andante]

lol yeah no I'm leaving my vote

[Andante]

and if you truly are that... Hockey can "take your role"

[Andante]

also I don't buy you're a town pr... you were on e-1 before,had like no reaction to it

[Andante]

lol it's umlaut and nero!!! that's funny

[Andante]

can the people who do not believe nero's claim please take a stance on hockeyfan. are they scum fakeclaiming GS and backup GS together? and why do you believe so

"I'm an even night role, and tonight is an even night. let me live 1 more night!" that just screams JOAT/strongarm

[Andante]

uhhh I think that's is.. makes mafia kill go through

[Andante]

Andante
the worst
Umlaut
Scorpious
Eyes without a face

In preference order (highest most want to lim)

Eyes
Scorpius
Umlaut
The Worst/Andante (kinda same feeling of just like "meh poe")

you want to most lim me? this is the first I'm hearing you sus me... like, you've wanted eyes dead all day? idk I'm confused on reading this, I'm top and bottom, so you most and least want me dead?

[Andante]

Andante
the worst
Umlaut
Scorpious
Eyes without a face

In preference order (highest most want to lim)

Eyes
Scorpius
Umlaut
The Worst/Andante (kinda same feeling of just like "meh poe")

you want to most lim me? this is the first I'm hearing you sus me... like, you've wanted eyes dead all day? idk I'm confused on reading this, I'm top and bottom, so you most and least want me dead?

The second list is the ordered one, first list was copied from the OP

then why is it only the 5 of us? there's more than 5 people here

[Andante]

so you don't tr me? interesting

[Andante]

I was a gs in a datisi game where maf was all docs. it was great!

[Andante]

wait what's the 3rd pr claimed?
gs, gs backup, and?

[Andante]

I think the gs backup claim is extremely sus

[Andante]

VOTE: eyes
if we can't yeet a pr, I'm down to yeet the one who voluntarily claimed VT d1

[Andante]

yeah I recall reading that..

[Andante]

hey DW, lets kill AD

andante can't die. nice try

[Andante]

I want Scorpious or eyes. If you can't do those for whatever reason I need more than "let's get Andante instead"

wooooo andante is town!!! glad you're seeing it!

[Andante]

ok maybe i should have just done this right away but i didn't want to. sue me. i don't think eyes is scum so i think it's worth doing now. scum might have overplayed their hand here

i CC gunsmith. im gunsmith straight up, no modifiers. i looked at nero n1 and got action failed, no result

unvote eyes and probably vote nero

GG TOLD YALL. NERO FAKE

[Andante]

VOTE: Nero

[Andante]

can the people who do not believe nero's claim please take a stance on hockeyfan. are they scum fakeclaiming GS and backup GS together? and why do you believe so

you defended nero...

[Andante]

Actually no

VOTE: Andante

Instantly disbelieving a PR claim usually comes from scum imo

I also stand be Umlaut maf

[Andante]

VOTE: Umlaut

[Andante]

is Nero's role mechanically possible? I need the big brains for this one.

How would it not be possible? Even-Night Gunsmith is a normal role, that's all that's required.

you were like strongly defending Nero too, not even a question for a second if it were real... like there's no way we have a backup for an even night gs...

[Andante]

so tbh @andnate, i want wave over umulat here(for now), wbu?

asking me who I want? I want Umlaut. Nero claimed, I didn't buy it, then umlaut was deadset on me

[Andante]

do whatever you want, I'm not discussing DAY 1 here on day 3

[Andante]

dont have to tell me twice to vote scorp
VOTE: Scoepious

[Andante]

I mean, I've never heard of a town JOAT, like, why rolecop the person claiming backup gs as town?? idk about you, but that's not a role I'd care to confirm.. but like Scorp is gunning to lim me was I should be prettydang clear from the fact I was tunneling Nero after his claim, scorp push feels like the umlaut one yesterday, push me enough to claim, but jokes on them, I aint claiming

[Andante]

andante is just bussing both her teamates clearly

woooo we just bussed the 2nd!!! tomorrow.. I guess I bus myself? I'm the bus driver!!! hahahaha

[Andante]

easyyyy
VOTE: Umlaut

[Andante]

It started with the Nero stuff. I was like "NO WAY NERO REAL!" and Umlaut just kept gunning for me... and like, was voting Scorp, saw the guilty and unvoted? mehhhh didn't like the idea of being solo maf here

UNVOTE: Scorpius

I need to think a little more about this. Scorp was

hard

pushing the Nero wagon yesterday and didn't even back off after his claim which would have been the natural time for distancing scum to find something else to do. And claiming VT instead of something possibly compatible with Wave's result is a weird move for scum. (Though also it would be hard to come up with anything compatible with that result so maybe not

so

so weird but still a little weird.)

I don't see a reason for scum!wave to 1v1 Scorpius like this but people do dumb things all the time. Probably the best way to resolve it is just to launch Scorp. But all the same I want to think about whether I really believe it or not

Actually no

VOTE: Andante

Instantly disbelieving a PR claim usually comes from scum imo

I felt like Nero was obviously a PR even D1 sad

Did you hint at this anywhere?

By not voting the Nero wagon?

That means you thought he was obviously town, not obviously a PR. I'm not saying you

should

have hinted at this just asking if you

did

.

I'm an even night gunsmith so lets not vote town and TW instead.

UNVOTE: Nero

Provisionally accepting this claim, may revisit later depending on what happens. Nero would be a good investigation target if someone has an investigation that distinguishes Town Gunsmith from Mafia [Whatever].

Hockey, can you say whether you are a backup gunsmith specifically, or a backup of something else? (No need to say what else if not gunsmith)

also I don't buy you're a town pr... you were on e-1 before,had like no reaction to it

Why is this bad? If I'm a PR I don't claim until I absolutely have to.

[Andante]

The Nero defense stuff was like a solid defense, or at least it felt like this huge defense for Nero... when I wanted to yeet Nero... then the unvoting scorpious stuff was off too, like, all Umlaut has done has been defend maf, and say why they can't be red. (At least recently)

[Andante]

It has to be Umlaut.

[Andante]

Are you thinking it's someone else?

[Andante]

none of what you said about umlaut is v convincing for me lol

I mean, I'd love to hear something better from you on someone else then, or even why you think Umlaut is town, cause if "im not convincing you" that means you don't SR Umlaut, so please share more!

[Andante]

oooh I love the colorful VC!!! yeah I'm not opposed to an eyes lim here either, like, I'm between eyes and Umlaut, hopefully GS checked one of them... I know GS was joking about me double bussing so I'm hoping GS wasn't on me for lols

[Andante]

nevermind i'm fine sheeping andante because those reads line up perfectly with mine :p

my read is havily influenced byt the fact Umlaut has been gunning for my head since I called them maf... just saying

[Andante]

if the team is just Nero, Scorp, Umlaut, I will laugh so hard... I was dead lost day 1, and somehow we already have 2 dead maf lol

[Andante]

I just read you got greeting eliminated

nero has to go next day. This was the counter wagon he actually pushed along to form and was supported by other scum (probably scorp) , he went along side fire read as he was read wildly town without forming any read of his own on greeting, just like his read on my slot was fake.

after all these games I played I know a thing or two. If I got night killed, don't go along the wifom created that he will push along.

Do not give nero free path.

Other top suspect is Andante
next in line is Scorp and then Eye

I feel bad I wasn't here to fight against it Sounds like yall limmed Greeting without a claim too

This is BS btw. You were not against it when you were around.

please don't give Andante a free path either for acting clumsy with her reads and back tracking on stuff/forgetting what she was supposed to "think" literally 5 minutes ago in posts like 1234

this is worth noting. frozen is already 2/4 in [nero, scorp, andante, eyes] and if my gut is right, she is probably 3/3.
i think she is killed regardless of andante's alignment at this point.

ok but Surye had no posts, and no posts can't be SRed? I'm scared this is you maf setting up to go "umlaut, eyes, andante" here

[Andante]

im sorry!!! I still really believe it's umlaut though!!! all umlaut has done has been tunnel me and defend maf, yet Stephen doesn't sr Umlaut, so I think I might be overthinking Umlaut?? idk maybe hockey has a guilty and gg

[Andante]

tbh I don't think greeting lim was read related, I think greeting yeet was just cause greeting was an easy person to yeet...

[Andante]

So that final Vc...
Greeting [7]: fireisredsir, Nero Cain, Eyes without a face, Stephen A Smith, Scorpious, HockeyFan, Dwlee99 [HAMMER]

(I like your color version more)

but.. would all 3 go on that wagon? oh.. you didn't end on the greeting wagon? lol I so thought you did cause all I remember from d1 was you being like "lol I'm voting whoever"

So, Umlaut maf? voting me? or 3 on the same wagon... hmmm

[Andante]

vote count 1.final

with 13 votes in play, it took 7 to make a decision. day 1 ended.

yeet

Greeting

[7]:

fireisredsir

,

Nero Cain

, Eyes without a face, Stephen A Smith,

Scorpious

,

HockeyFan

, Dwlee99

[HAMMER]

Nero Cain

[2]:

Frozen Angel

,

Greeting

Scorpious

[2]:

wavemode

, the worst

Andante [1]:

Umlaut

not voting [1]:

Andante

vote count 2.final

with 11 votes in play, it took 6 to make a decision. day 2 ended.

yeet

Nero Cain

[6]:

the worst, Umlaut,

Scorpious

, Stephen A Smith, Dwlee99, Andante

[HAMMER]

Scorpious

[1]:

HockeyFan

Andante [1]:

Nero Cain

the worst [1]:

Eyes without a face

Eyes without a face [1]:

wavemode

not voting [1]:

fireisredsir

vote count 3.final

with 9 votes in play, it took 5 to make a decision. day 3 ended.

yeet

Scorpious

[5]:

wavemode

, Andante,

HockeyFan

, Dwlee99, Stephen A Smith

[HAMMER]

Dwlee99 [1]:

the worst

wavemode

[1]:

Scorpious

not voting [2]:

Eyes without a face, Umlaut

anyone else into this stuff?
assuming hockey is town, nero was either p gloriously bussed or eyes is last scum. eyes has scumsided on all eod wagons.

d1 thoughts I posted above, then day 2, fire the direct cc wasn't even voting nero, so most likely 2 maf on that wagon,
D3 Scorp was cop confirmed maf.. it would make sense for partner to bus there, or just not vote from not being there... but Umlaut was voting Scorp, then unvoted after the guilty so I'd count umlaut as on that wagon, and.... I have gained no new intel lol other than I don't think it's eyes... actually kinda thinking Stephen/Umlaut

[Andante]

greeting's read quality decreased when he was wagoned

lmaooo I mean, I don't blame greeting... my reads when wagoned... are basically just omgus reads

[Andante]

And back to my stephen/umlaut thought, if stephen "can't see umlaut maf" and can't give reads of his own... I don't think I've seen a single read other than the "DWLEE MAF!!" right out of the gate from stephen... maybe it's just stephen?

[Andante]

Before this was only talking to fire and hockey, then this:

I've been in DWlee's shoes recently. Stephen would argue the color of the sky with them. Every time a legit answer is run in a circle it gives someone a chance to misrep the original answer. I don't like what he's doing. The entire character(Stephen) and more likely than not the game opening, and maybe even the entire game is already being played as some sort of gambit. its all pre meditated. Not saying thats AI at all because obviously there is no way to know what they will roll,but I feel this character would have been installed regardless of green or red.

I am unsatisfied with Dwlee's answer to my question. I wouldn't be surprised if they are actually mafia here.

your list has no weight behind it, so it has no stakes. you can move away from any of those reads at any time without consequence because you didn't put any reasoning behind them. if any of the reads end up looking like good directions to push, you can come up with reasons for them later. you even said that your list was fluid

so why is that scum indicative? you think I'm supposed to have rock solid reads on page three and not re-evaluate as the game unfolds?

It's AI because its a hedge list based on nothing,and its on like page 3 and regardless of what happens you have left every possible out for yourself.like all of them. Thats why it's scummy.

Am I supposed to have rock solid reads on page three of a game? What you call hedging I call starting a damn conversation.

I've been in DWlee's shoes recently. Stephen would argue the color of the sky with them. Every time a legit answer is run in a circle it gives someone a chance to misrep the original answer. I don't like what he's doing. The entire character(Stephen) and more likely than not the game opening, and maybe even the entire game is already being played as some sort of gambit. its all pre meditated. Not saying thats AI at all because obviously there is no way to know what they will roll,but I feel this character would have been installed regardless of green or red.

I am unsatisfied with Dwlee's answer to my question. I wouldn't be surprised if they are actually mafia here.

shtick aside, wouldn't it be easier to just say that,maybe try again and move on? See, I love this character. But I'm trying to figure out right now if your slot is about it or the game more.

That's not how I roll and you know it. That is a fact.

then immediately back to joking around, this could be maf tbh

[Andante]

So that final Vc...
Greeting [7]:

fireisredsir

,

Nero Cain

,

Eyes without a face

,

Stephen A Smith

,

Scorpious

,

HockeyFan

,

Dwlee99

[HAMMER]

(I like your color version more)

but.. would all 3 go on that wagon? oh.. you didn't end on the greeting wagon? lol I so thought you did cause all I remember from d1 was you being like "lol I'm voting whoever"

So, Umlaut maf? voting me? or 3 on the same wagon... hmmm

2 are guaranteed to be on the wagon. don't just look to the wagon, look at counterwagons too - there's nowhere else for scum to really be except on a vanity wagon (me against scorp for distancing / umlaut on you as a vanity wagon).
i definitely think the lim turned against greeting quite quickly and it wouldn't be all that surprising if all 3 were on there? i'm kind of indifferent about the number of scum on that wagon, but it's known to be 2-3.

pedit: oh, i didn't catch that scorp was guiltied, lol. that kind of nulls vca a bit. i think it's interesting to
note how likely it was that *nero* had both partners bussing.

Right... only other "wagons" are maf, maf, me, and I know why Umlaut was voting me... versus I'm pretty sure no one had a reason for the greeting wagon... easy for maf to hide there.
The greeting wagon was FAST, which means it's more likely stephen over umlaut

[Andante]

And back to my stephen/umlaut thought, if stephen "can't see umlaut maf" and can't give reads of his own... I don't think I've seen a single read other than the "DWLEE MAF!!" right out of the gate from stephen... maybe it's just stephen?

i'm so lukewarm on stephen. he hasn't really done anything towny except make proactive noises on d1 but i wonder if that's kind of a towntell for him?
dogpiling greeting, bussing nero, bussing scorpious does fit a version of reality, but. eh. i just think eyes or umlaut are kinda more likely.

to be fair, nero and scorp wagons were very straightforward, someone went "they're maf" and they happened basically. But Stephen did not interact with Nero, and had weird interactions with Scorp (cause scorp was always in thread) Stephen started pretty strong with that gimmick, then just like, dissapeared

so actually I'm thinking this tbh VOTE: Stephen

[Andante]

tbh I loved this reading session!!
and like, Stephen maf makes a lot of sense for why he completely dismissed me calling Umlaut maf, cause he's maf, knows we're all town, so obviously this "major scum thing I found" on a town would just be something dumb, yeah, I feel good about this tbh, and hopefully when the others show up they either agree or have something good for why it's someone else

[Andante]

hahaha yeah probably a better move... but we have 7 alive, I'm not super scared

[Andante]

HOW THE HECK DO I HAVE THREE HUNDRED AND FIFTY POSTS... omg I'm so sorry people!!! I feel really good about townreading the duck here (I can't call my townread the worst... lol) so this is good!!

[Andante]

I'm gonna do something really wild now...
UNVOTE:
(but consider it on Stephen)

alright, night yall!!

[Andante]

what made you check stephen last night?

[Andante]

Can you tell me how that makes sense though? "Not getting much sus, so I figured he might be maf" like... do you just believe no one else can make reads or what?

[Andante]

If hockey is real, I'm not sold that Stephen isn't mafia doctor.. just sayin

[Andante]

answer 2775? I think my progression is very clear, I don't have to restate it

[Andante]

I want to hear from Umlaut and eyes

[Andante]

ayyy it's that easy?

[Andante]

ooh nice!!! gg yall!! lmaoo day 1 I had no reads... good times

[Andante]

Dwlee the mvp!!!

[Andante]

I also defended nero, so it's fine

[Andante]

so do we have to vote? yes? idk what's happening
VOTE: eyes

[Andante]

duck never dies here, duck is my strong tr

[Andante]

are we certain stephen is town? so it's just in eyes/umlaut?

[Andante]

I buy Dwlee's claim, hockey is gs now, duck is for sure town, I'm town

just leaves stephen/umlaut/eyes

if stephen is clear it's in eyes/umlaut

[Andante]

what's an alien voyer?

[Andante]

maybe its just dwlee instead

i dunno I just dont think there's 5 TPRs in this game

see, I liked what you were saying with Hockey... I basically claimed vig early game and Dwlee definitely saw that soft, dwlee maf would've just killed me, so I funny believe dwlee is the gs miller. Fire was a full gunsmith, we had one. yes. I'm not certain why our joat died over a "confirmed gs"

actually it might just be hockey

[Andante]

what's an alien voyer?

Alien is a combined rolestopper roleblocker, voyeur can see what kind of action was performed on a player.

and stephen claimed that?

[Andante]

idk, I think eyes should go for the whole surrender shenanigns. no freaking reason to do that as town
VOTE: eyes

if game still goes after this, I'll figure something out

[Andante]

Why, lining up the 3 misyeets she needs to win 9as if that wasn't obvious by now

excuse me?

[Andante]

I mean, Andante was the ONLY player that still voted me AFTER I surrendered. She KNOWS the game wasn;t over and knows that I was trolling.

game isn't over till dats says it is

[Andante]

??????????????? EYES WHAT DID U JUST DO lmfao, im like 95% sure thats a scum gambit, but idrc if it isnt or not, POE still stays same, eyes, idk why you're trying to push Andante when she pushed nero for like 2 days and idt her interactions are scum(with nero/scoprious)

eyes just realized it's not auto for town, and is trying to backpedal

[Andante]

??????????????? EYES WHAT DID U JUST DO lmfao, im like 95% sure thats a scum gambit, but idrc if it isnt or not, POE still stays same, eyes, idk why you're trying to push Andante when she pushed nero for like 2 days and idt her interactions are scum(with nero/scoprious)

Reread the interactions with Scoprious. She AND Scorpious were doing a scum theatre to distance from each other as well as from Nero.

The fact remains here: You, Stephen, Dwlee and the worst all posted after I fake claimed scum, and none of you thought of voting me still. No one thinks "The game isn't over yet" after the supposidly last scum posts "I surrender" in bold. ONLY SCUM know (for a fact) that the game isn't over and would still rally to cast a vote on the scum that

had already surrendered

. Think about it. It's a subconsciousness thing.

what are you going on about? like seriously.... I have NEVER seen maf surrender in thread while it's going on, so if you're not maf, you literally are not playing to win. why disrupt productive gameplay to go all "haha I give up!!" then I'm there like "wtf why?" you explain, I'm still confused and you realize it's in no way auto for town. and if you truly are maf? like, seriously? just gonna give up? at least fight till the end...

[Andante]

I need to step away... I'm not doing this right now, I literally don't know what you want eyes.. im maf? ok cool vote me.. but this is feeling personal, so I'm just gonna let this be, and I don't even care

[Andante]

cause quite honestly, it should be illegal to pull that surrender stunt, regardless of alignment

[Andante]

I wanna yeet stephen tbh

[Andante]

I wasn't even planning on flipping eyes until that stunt tbh

[Andante]

wanna just yeet Umlaut, and if we have to read in PRs we will, but I do think it's odd not even the town PR got killed, gut has been telling me all game hockey maf, logic yesterday forund Stephen maf, can the PRs out their reports? thanks. I'm going for my gut from all game first, like, to just think if umlaut is maf and I go yeet PRs over him? lol no, bye umlaut. nothing towny all game
VOTE: Umlaut

[Andante]

alright i looked at andnate/dwlees combined iso and basically skimmed over everything but (15 to 19) and 31 to 35 could seem like scum interacting with each other, not really sure. Dwlee also saying to FA "Andantes playstyle is branching" is ehhhh.

what are you trying to reach for here??? like, looking for someone else to yeet??

Is it even possible for town to have a GS and maf to have the backup? if it's possible, hockey feels like maf here, but I don't feel like it's possible?

[Andante]

VOTE: Hockey

[Andante]

lmaoooo I am not doing this right now, quote for me where I called scorp town

[Andante]

cause that aint scorp town

Andy this is an opinion talk show

We can make shit up if we don't know

ok sorry!! distracted!!

My reads are like this:

Stephen
Fire
Eyes
Dwlee
Greeting
Frozen
Nero
Wave
Hockey
Scorp

[Andante]

did I ignore or was I distracted? cause there's a very clear difference

[Andante]

I really don't believe that to be the case lol but ok..

[Andante]

I cannot convince you to self vote though so this is pointless

if you can convince me I was sent a red role PM I'll self

[Andante]

I can think about context later, I'm just stressed right now lol

[Andante]

but Dwlees case on adnante was decentish

uh excuse me what? how did Dwlee make a decent case?

[Andante]

sorry I forgot about this, it’s literally just Hockey. i don’t know why Dwlee suddenly tried to turn for me unless they’re maf? cause killing the worst means maf was confident they could get mislims in, maybe it’s just dwlee and not hockey? but hockey jumping on my case was really sus

[Andante]

and if maf isn’t in those 2 we automatically lose tomorrow (I think) cause I just plan on auto voting there

[Andante]

i mean, you’re already deadset it’s me so not sure why it even matters what I think?

[Andante]

I read your “case” on me and thought it was bad, I was literally pushing Nero cause I didn’t believe the claim while everyone else was all “we don’t yeet pr claims”
but yeah, read your “case” found it bad, and that was that, I’ve just been insanely busy, uhh today or tomorrow I need to seriously lock in my reads here cause I’m about to have some seriously limited access, starting sunday

[Andante]

ahhh right with deadline… fun

[Andante]

Votes kinda unrelated. In reaction to Nero's claim Andante was very like "lol you suck"

but she's also kinda disappeared this game day when not being poked directly

which like whatever but also I don't get the feeling she is even trying to find the last scum right now

I even made that point before you did

uh yeah, dissapeared cause i’ve been busy in real life and I have nothing more to say?? you trying to tunnel me or whatever?? yeah I saw that and was like, whatever not worth my time right now, the way hockey jumped on it with you? I’m literally fine with my hockey vote. Reminder, hockey was also going to be the day 1 yeet…

[Andante]

lol is that tiny text I wrote in? looks so small… idk how I did that

[Andante]

oh nevermind looks normal again.. that was wild

[Andante]

I mean like, what more is there for me to do? I was fine just yeeting Umlaut yesterday, eyes claimed mafia as town, then deserved to go for that, Hockey has been suspicious all game, but then here how hockey jumped on Dwlee's case like "YES! GET ANDANTE!!!" I have no clue what umlaut is doing here though, like, say I'm "setting up for tomorrow" but literally it's just in umlaut and hockey, cause umlaut is all "yeah! andnte maf" but like not voting me or pushing me, idk, Stephen is town and I tr Dwlee so this is so easy, if no one is going to do anything can we just hammer hockey? like, hockey lim makes the most sense, cause hockey was joking with me about bussing both partners at some point in this, so if you say that at 1 point why am I suddenly maf? cause eyes made some amazing point how I know they were flipping town? if you wanna go back to eyes's stunt, sure. The game isn't over until the mod says it is, that's how I always play. I had no intentions of yeeting eyes there, until the "IM MAF AND I CONCEEDE" crap, like, after a town did that, I'm seriously just over this game, we wasted a ml cause of town being dumb.... but whatever, I have 2 trs, and of the other 2 I have a stronger scumlean on hockey, but I can't get over how few posts umlaut has had, like where umlaut had less posts than datisi for a good part of the game... idk, yall do whatever, I'm just trying to check in daily before I go on VLA for like 4 or 5 days, but here's the deal... my reads aren't changing. no one is even doing anything, so can we please just hammer???

[Andante]

Like, what fun is all of us just sitting here looking at each other? USE YOUR VOTES. like come one

[Andante]

V/LA doesn't mean I can't be here at all,
if I had to vote right now I'd probably vote Umlaut, but I was having a good solve with duckie right before they died, so like, I'm not dealing with this till like wednesday night or thursday. Like, sure I could just vote Umlaut and call it a day, but I owe it to all the dead townies to at least give it an effort, and feel confident about my decision, so before I vote Umlaut I want to be absolutely certain, but reading D6 here, feels like Umlaut is weighing options too much, and trying to just sit on the fence, see which way we're leaning, then go from there.. I mean, Umlaut killing Dwlee is easy, Umlaut feels more confident in being able to convince you I'm scum than convincing you of dwlee scum.

so like tldr: I'm like 95% sold on Umlaut maf, but I'm currently busy, and will deal with this later

[Andante]

ooh nice this is easy for me then!!
VOTE: Umlaut

and this would explain exactly why umlaut was so on the fence about who it was here, then that moment of panic like “oh what? andante vla and wasn’t here??”

and umlaut, what I was saying about the kill, if you had killed me, you’d have to have some sort of conviction behind dwlee maf or stephen maf, all you’ve done all game has been push me back, except the past days where we yeeted town, so here, you’d rather just keep pushing me, it makes complete sense.

I’m kinda around today, won’t be around tomorrow (unless maybe late, no promises)

but Stephen, I’m town here and if you have ANY doubts on that, please give me a chance to clear up any doubts there before yeeting me!!

[Andante]

hmmm my bad. Umlaut is still maf, tbh can I see your self town case please umlaut?