I mean you know I'm not like biased against you right??? I thought we were friends, we've talked a lot on sitechat, I like you! I just think you're scum here, and you say you think I'm likely scum here too so ??? I don't get what I'm doing wrongIn post 1612, marcistar wrote:nobody asked why btw so its very clear my opinions arent actually cared abt XOXOIn post 1583, marcistar wrote:i think johnnys town
so then why should i give my opinions if nobody cares?? xx
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Probably just focus on others? If you towncase yourself that will just make me think "ok well if she's saying that she thought it would look towny so she could've faked it" so it might just be a waste of time. Idk obviously there are exceptions to this and people can present convincing reasons to townread themselves butIn post 1617, marcistar wrote:if u want me to case why im town lmk but otherwise ill just focus on others..
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It's ok I'm not like about to pass out or anything but as I said not feeling fantastic
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hi uhIn post 1639, marcistar wrote:nvm i dont think ill have time to give a read on every1
ausuka can give me like 4-5 ppl to read whenever they see this and ill do it < 33
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hi
I am still in a bad place thinking wise but I can at least contribute I don't think the towniest scum is always the one to make the kill? The scummier one can be viewed as the most expendable I think? Especially in case of like a watcher
Still, while I was never hard townreading him I never especially like hard suspected Johnny either
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I meant what is thisIn post 1670, Gamma Emerald wrote:In post 1669, Ausuka wrote:Hi I am not fully recovered but am feeling a bit better
I agree marcostar feels townier now (I kind of feel like she wouldn't do the appeal to emotion as scum but maybe I'm too naive)
Idk where to put my vote though
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Do you not think I might have been referring specifically to the AtE that happened shortly before I made that readIn post 1716, Gamma Emerald wrote:I was concerned that you're only now acknowledging the AtE as potentially towny
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I mean this feels like what he was doing earlier when she suspected the Shoshin/freedom slot when they were being fairly obvious town for no apparent reason?
Idk I just think it's flimsy and given that everyone else is able to townread me I find it suspicious. I think it's difficult to see the motivation to play like that as either alignment but it's maybe easier to see as coming from scum than a genuine town thought process.
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This specifically pinged town to meIn post 1605, marcistar wrote:okay open my iso
read the first bunches of posting
yknow where i sused asuska and then eventually sused datisi? that IS actual game content whether yall agreed or not
why would i actually try again when suddenly everything i do is useless?
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Hi I wanted you to know I did read this postIn post 1679, marcistar wrote:i dont think bellas posts are too hard to fake as scum :shrug:
some of her opinions seem more like they turn where the tide goes !!! and i dont think shes really done too heavy of opoinionsionsionsionsions opinions
i dont really get how someone can open up her iso and genuinely think shes been hunting but maybe i misread it idk
but idk the point some of yall have been bringing up
abt how corwin was hinting towards her or sumn?
yeah i dont see that
i dont know why he would do that. i feel like a scum tratior would be more cautious about hints for their team, instead of doingthat, so at best i think that corwin shit is nai. i feel like finding out bellas alignment would be best by reading how she posts instead of trying to read her thru corwin but :shrug:
there goes my content for the week! whew i work hard to make this house a home
I take your point about Bella not having hunted much? I was chill with it for a long time because I tended to like the posts which she did make but also I don't totally disagree
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Bella could you elaborate on your feelings on these players you'd be willing to eliminateIn post 1744, Bellaphant wrote:Could elim in Alex/Johnny/datisi basically
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I'm sort of feeling FlavorLeaf for now.In post 184, MarioManiac4 wrote:Who is scum?
There are so many players here that I have already seen/played with, that are always ? to me.
You and Mulch represent the S-tier of that.
Then there are so many guys who I don't know at all, such as Ignition, dave, Flairs....
And since these guys have only posted once or twice, I can't get a read yet.
They are all scum until I get a stronger read that says otherwise, and even then...you know how paranoid I am!
Flavor is the only one so far of whom I can say that he has been "uncharacteristic" for his usual townplay.
Unabombah was traitor and ignition, Dave and flairs were mafia
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i mean honestly I don't even know how I feel about Alex right now
I scumread him d1 and he generally felt like scum on an instinctive level to me but since I got sick I haven't really been analysing his posts tbh, I should probably start doing that again
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Regardless if Una was indeed better than Corwinoid which I don't have that much interest in contesting, doesn't that strengthen the argument that it's very possible for a traitor to crumb so obviously?
I also think on a second look Bella's ISO is just. Sort of empty of curiousity and scumhunting in general. Like sure she could just be disengaged town but I'm never going to townread an ISO like that.
I think this is actually probably the best vote today
VOTE: Bellaphant
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I mean while I have scumread gamma and Marci at various points both also have things I think would be at least somewhat difficult for scum to fake. I'd say Alex and Bella are the only players where I don't really feel that way (Johnny probably needs review TBF) except Alex has at least shown quite a lot of desire to scumhunt even if I think some of it could be fake.
I've pretty much let Bella drift as a town read since the claim deal and I think most of the thread has done the same? But she hasn't made much use of this space. I know her internet access hasn't been great but I think there's reason to believe she could have done better than this.
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Huh, I assumed you would be one of the more resistant players to this wagon?
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Btw I still think the claim is like somewhat +town but also she could just be scum with a weird role PM lolIn post 1855, Ausuka wrote:I've pretty much let Bella drift as a town read since the claim deal and I think most of the thread has done the same?
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Is it too shallow to see this as a townpostIn post 1887, JohnnyFarrar wrote:
Honestly really feeling this. Std, Freedom, Crez, Scamper and Ausuka win this game for us 100% it's why this game has been on the back burner.In post 1764, Crescent wrote:I have a pretty solid towncore right nowNo matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.-
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I know his role is probably complicated and confusing to him too given this game but we also have datisi in this game who is literally a NRG member so outing it will only help with that. Idk
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I can confirm thisIn post 1911, Datisi wrote:i am also someone who loves making up complex normal setups and setting up weird role interactionsNo matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.-
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In post 1869, Save The Dragons wrote:i think i misread what my role does
Like if he had just left it at the RB/tracker type soft I would have been fine leaving it thereIn post 1870, Save The Dragons wrote:yeah it still could be johnny. i'm just really dumb
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Like being a weak PR doesn't make her any less likely to be mafia. I'm not sure how much I should tip my hand but I think her claim upon reflection makes her -more- likely to be mafia here which is part of the reason I'm doing this frankly. Mostly because I think this game would need a fair amount of VTs and the way she softed.
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That would be an excellent meme gameIn post 1928, Alexcellent wrote:I hope there are 2 ascetic millers in the gameNo matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.-
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Pooky decided to run his mini theme in the normal queue because the mini theme queue is deadIn post 2030, marcistar wrote:wheres all the vts this is so susNo matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.-
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I would probably be less Sus of it if Alex hadn't already claimed vt
We should probably like actually sort people by play though
On that subject the reason I thought Bella might be mafia is because I'm even night and she said she was odd and also claimed really easily, I thought she was my counterpart like an odd night fruit vendor or something. So then I thought, since the town needs a few VTs it's probably a bit more likely for my counterpart to be mafia instead of another town useless roleNo matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.-
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Datisi - one shot novice complex vigilante
Ausuka - ascetic miller even night mailman
Alexcellent - vanilla town, corroborated as vanilla by Datisi
JohnnyFarrar- simple combined doctor voyeur
scamper - vt
Freedom - vanilla neighbour
marcistar - vt
Gamma Emerald - VT
ok so town power is like
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a friendly neighbour
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yeah town power is like. heavily in that 3 players can be confirmed and Roden can confirmed the vts. And then literally nobody got confirmed in reality lmao
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The 2 simple roles and 2 complex roles should indicate that there are more than 3 vts?
Setup spec wise I guess that would mean freedom is most likely maf but also like
Idk if it's worth actually paying attention to the roles outside, I believe it's fairly unlikely scum are both vt claims or both pr claims, but neither is literally impossible
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Alright I'm here let's SOLVE THIS GAME
I feel like I don't want to make too many assumptions about the setup as I've said. I'd like other ppl to comment on if we think the 1 VT 1 PR distribution is highly likely.
That said I'm going to start rereading now to get some sorting going. I think the priority should be sorting Alex because he seems to have the WIM of the rest of this game combinedNo matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.-
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In post 39, scamper wrote:i dont really think scum claims ascetic miller on page 1, i think if ascetic they just claim ascetic without the miller part, cuz the extra detail is unnecessary to invent. simplest explanation is aus got given an actual weird neg util role and claimed it
ill leave this here for now
VOTE: marciIn post 78, Gamma Emerald wrote:
if it was an actual sentence in caps this would feel more logical but all ausuka said was "OMGUS"In post 74, marcistar wrote:
the caps makes it stand outIn post 65, Crescent wrote:We had 7 votes in the "RVS" phase. What makes that one stand out to you any more than the others?In post 114, marcistar wrote:i don't see how thats scummy..?
why would scum want to naked vote and draw attention to themselves?
why would shoshinnotwant to shade people this early on? it'll cause reactions for sure and help better read people? like how ur having a tantrum over them scumreading you rn
why areyouframing everything they do in such a bad way? the certain words, "bullshitting", "dodging a question" its making a bigger deal of something than it should be.
why areyouexpecting shoshin to be perfect?In post 144, Alexcellent wrote:So no reason for me NOT to believe Ausuka at this point, but I don't think it's impossible that scum makes that claim.
Hmm we get into WIFOM territory here though. Why would scum say ascetic miller and not just ascetic? Maybe so we can have this conversation. Good lies involve detail and ascetic miller is a way to say "omg guys look at this dumb role I've got, why is this a thing?" Rather than blindly going "I'm ascetic," and everyone has to decide if they believe it or not. Also the conversation is muddied a bit more because we're no longer just going "idk if I believe Ausuka", now we're going "why would this role exist?"In post 39, scamper wrote:i dont really think scum claims ascetic miller on page 1, i think if ascetic they just claim ascetic without the miller part, cuz the extra detail is unnecessary to invent. simplest explanation is aus got given an actual weird neg util role and claimed it
ill leave this here for now
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But yeah, I'm just thinking out loud. This early in the game I'm happy to lean more towards accepting that there's an ascetic miller.
Scamper still feels like obvtown in the early game and I don't think I would ever catch them as scumIn post 150, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:vote count 1.02
with 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2022-07-12 12:00:00).
The Marci wagon might be interesting? I know one mafia was inactive at daystart but would wolves leave her alone totally at the startNo matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.-
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I guess what I'm trying to say is I think this makes it more likely there's a wolf in Marci and Dats since I know Bella is town and I really think scamper is tooIn post 150, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:marcistar[4]: Ausuka, scamper, Datisi, BellaphantNo matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.-
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Reading through Alex's ISO the thing that stands out most from day 1 is this post. He pretty consistently townreads Marcistar before this point and while I can see how this meta point could make him doubt that townread, the flip onto the wagon feels very ???In post 832, Alexcellent wrote:In post 830, Ausuka wrote:viewtopic.php?p=13378298&user_select%5B ... #p13378298
I think this is an interesting read
My first thought here is just like, she seems to struggle with scumplay a bit? So I'm more inclined to think she's scum here rather than too-scummy-to-be-scum.
Also she said she tends to be more bitchy as scum? I'm not 100% sure whether or not that applies here and I think it's hard to evaluate without being Potentially Rude
Yeah okay I’m on board now
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