Mini Normal 2299 | Postgame [Village win]

[KittyTacky]

Meow uwu

I remember half of this list.

VOTE: Flavor Leaf

[KittyTacky]

Nothing. I want us out of RVS sharpish.

I'll encourage a wagon here to generate pressure and reads, or if another one forms then weee off I'll go there.

If one starts a wagon and no one joins it, does a wagon actually happen?

My daily bit of philosophy to chew on.

Vanity.

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only 2 wolves hmm

must be a 3rd party then as well

Nah, he probably just slipped that it's a traitor game.

^

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wait can there even be traitors in a werewolf game

wiki page says they must be mafia aligned
which precludes them being werewolf

Wolves are a mafia skin.

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I don't think 2 scum makes sense without a traitor. Unless scum roles are jacked or town's roles are useless.

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The only 3p that can be in normals is a SK and SK can only appear in large games.

[KittyTacky]

Nothing. I want us out of RVS sharpish.

I'll encourage a wagon here to generate pressure and reads, or if another one forms then weee off I'll go there.

If one starts a wagon and no one joins it, does a wagon actually happen?

My daily bit of philosophy to chew on.

Vanity.

Kitty, what did you mean by vanity here?

The scenario described is a vanity wagon.

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Anyways, the clause about Scorched Earth. I don't believe I have seen it before. Is it a modslip that there is some kind of extra kill power role in the game?

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I agree that Theta is LAMISTy. But I'll refrain from voting them for now.

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I agree that Theta is LAMISTy. But I'll refrain from voting them for now.

Why?

UNVOTE:

Why LAMIST or why refrain? Former is me just sheeping the case, latter is because I don't like piling votes this early.

[KittyTacky]

I agree that Theta is LAMISTy. But I'll refrain from voting them for now.

Why?

UNVOTE:

Why LAMIST or why refrain? Former is me just sheeping the case, latter is because I don't like piling votes this early.

I meant voting. But this early do you think someone will get voted out? Not sure what you mean by piling votes. Isn't it good for your susread to get pressure early?

I was scared, at the time, of them being brought into quickhammer range. Kind of a dumb fear in retrospect.

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VOTE: Theta Alpine pressure vote

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But if you say your vote is for pressure, target knows it's for pressure, and can ignore pressure and will not feel to be pressured, therefore making pressure vote is not actually pressuring.

I mean it's pretty obvious it's pressure lmao.

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I'm still kind of easing into the game.

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Dr Drew sussy if Theta scum btw.

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Like at this point I'm into the Theta wagon because that's a possible associative right here. Kind of a weird blunt chainsaw defense.

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Like at this point I'm into the Theta wagon because that's a possible associative right here. Kind of a weird blunt chainsaw defense.

Can you expand on this for me? I don't see who the associative/defense is with.

See the previous page. I don't like Drew's attack on me, feels like a chainsaw with Theta.

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VOTE: Theta Alpine pressure vote

VOTE: kitty

In my experience people posting their reason for voting like this is scum rather than town. Basically looking for approval.

...what kind of approval would I even expect from this.

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Dr Drew sussy if Theta scum btw.

Why

I explained. Chainsaw.

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I was busy with a family emergency today and couldn't talk much. (dw it all turned out okay)

Will do stuff tomorrow.

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What on earth is this sudden Mew wagon.

Can someone clear that up for me? All I really see is two players having a spat rather than anything that indicates one of them is pushing in bad faith.

Yeah it's def a moment.

[KittyTacky]

Amogussss

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What on earth is this sudden Mew wagon.

Can someone clear that up for me? All I really see is two players having a spat rather than anything that indicates one of them is pushing in bad faith.

Yeah it's def a moment.

I don't like any of the current wagons. I think RedFF disappearing after copping a few votes is scummy so I will keep my vote there for now.

Does this clear it up for you a bit Kitty?

Yeah it's just strange.

[KittyTacky]

What on earth is this sudden Mew wagon.

Can someone clear that up for me? All I really see is two players having a spat rather than anything that indicates one of them is pushing in bad faith.

Yeah it's def a moment.

I don't like any of the current wagons. I think RedFF disappearing after copping a few votes is scummy so I will keep my vote there for now.

Does this clear it up for you a bit Kitty?

Yeah it's just strange.

Ok

So sell me on Theta

It just doesn't at all feel like a town reaction to being pushed.

[KittyTacky]

What on earth is this sudden Mew wagon.

Can someone clear that up for me? All I really see is two players having a spat rather than anything that indicates one of them is pushing in bad faith.

Yeah it's def a moment.

I don't like any of the current wagons. I think RedFF disappearing after copping a few votes is scummy so I will keep my vote there for now.

Does this clear it up for you a bit Kitty?

Yeah it's just strange.

Ok

So sell me on Theta

It just doesn't at all feel like a town reaction to being pushed.

To expound because I feel I didn't do enough yesterday: I have never seen a townie react like this to an early wagon.

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I reread overnight. Really not feeling Theta today tbh.

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Hell yeah, 3 people targeted Bulge last night.

I'm a Multitasking JOAT with a Watcher ability and a Tracker-Finder ability.

I targeted Bulge with my Watch and got 2 names back, and I targeted Doctor Drew with the other, he is not Tracker.

So we gonna do a fun little trust game.

Gonna need everyone to claim 'I did not target Bulge' or 'I targeted Bulge with a _____ action'

Fill in the blank with your action please.

I did not target Bulge.

[KittyTacky]

Sorry I wasn't very active yesterday I didn't have the will ta play much now I do.

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They didn't say the names, but if they are being honest and they are what they say they are - they must have the name of a scum player in their inbox.

It's categorically anti-town gameplay not to share the results, regardless of their alignment.

It's actually common to not reveal immediately innit. No harm in trying to bait out other scum on their lies. There are no daykills in Normals so you can't get sniped by a scum gayvig.

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*****DAYVIG

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I actually think Delta is scummy for this.

VOTE: Delta

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VOTE: Theta

The vibes are off, this prewritten post/solve looks to me like scum running damage control and trying to get ahead of the narrative, and I've scumread them all game.

I really don't feel it's Theta still. Nor do I feel it's you either. I need to reread again.

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This is probably fine.

VOTE: Deltabreedy

E-1.

@Theta - where was the possible traitor crumb from Kitty?

Okay I feel if I don't come out, Delta will hang.

I am a Village Informed Traffic Analyst. First off, my informed is that there's a traitor and that there's a lazy modifier somewhere. They are not necessarily on the same person.

Then, my results:
N1 - Theta can't privately communicate. That's why I gave up my Theta push and softed it.
N2 - Delta can't privately communicate. Ditto.

If there is even scum between those it has to be the traitor. Possible both are just LHF town.

I also crumbed it here:
[float][/float]

Sorry I wasn't very active yesterday I didn't have the will ta play much now I do.

"ta". O and A are very far from each other, and I'm not doing a Scottish accent gimmick this game.

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I think the gamestate is misled enough for me to come out, with 2 of my innos having suspicion circling them, for this to be justified.

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I have a soft suspicion there's a hood somewhere in the game however.

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*only 1 scum left

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I'm not comfy voting between either of my soft-innos, none give me traitor vibes really. If I had to it'd be Theta.

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@Kitty - how exactly does your role work? Enchant was executed D2 and you checked Delta N2, so if it's just them and a traitor, they technically have no one to talk to in the PT. I realize 3 scum + traitor is technically possible, just interested in this scenario. Would you get a positive or negative result on groupscum if they're the last one left, assuming they can't communicate in another way?

I get a guilty if they're not alone in a PT. So sole scum would get an inno even if traitor. So innos are pretty soft. I have a hunch it's 3 scum and tater however.

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Since I have a strong role.

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*even if there's a traitor

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Yeah idk either. But it's now confirmed.

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*even if there's a traitor

I mean, even you don't believe that it's confirmed?

Oh jeez. I was talking about how Traffic Analyst works. I was correcting my post here because I missed a word. I do believe it's confirmed BECAUSE IT WAS IN MY ROLE CARD. -_- idk how this wasn't obvious.

@Kitty - how exactly does your role work? Enchant was executed D2 and you checked Delta N2, so if it's just them and a traitor, they technically have no one to talk to in the PT. I realize 3 scum + traitor is technically possible, just interested in this scenario. Would you get a positive or negative result on groupscum if they're the last one left, assuming they can't communicate in another way?

I get a guilty if they're not alone in a PT. So sole scum would get an inno even if traitor. So innos are pretty soft. I have a hunch it's 3 scum and tater however.

Yeah idk either. But it's now confirmed.

Confirmed how?

This is probably fine.

VOTE: Deltabreedy

E-1.

@Theta - where was the possible traitor crumb from Kitty?

Okay I feel if I don't come out, Delta will hang.

I am a Village Informed Traffic Analyst.

First off, my informed is that there's a traitor and that there's a lazy modifier somewhere. They are not necessarily on the same person.

Then, my results:
N1 - Theta can't privately communicate. That's why I gave up my Theta push and softed it.
N2 - Delta can't privately communicate. Ditto.

If there is even scum between those it has to be the traitor. Possible both are just LHF town.

I also crumbed it here:
[float][/float]

Sorry I wasn't very active yesterday I didn't have the will ta play much now I do.

"ta". O and A are very far from each other, and I'm not doing a Scottish accent gimmick this game.

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i claimed because i figured a scum enabler to my role would be sus, i assumed enablers were usually of the same alignment, so i figured claiming now rather than it coming out later was the best move.

Enablers can be of a different alignment as negative feedback, to kneecap a faction when it gets ahead.

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@Kitty - how exactly does your role work? Enchant was executed D2 and you checked Delta N2, so if it's just them and a traitor, they technically have no one to talk to in the PT. I realize 3 scum + traitor is technically possible, just interested in this scenario. Would you get a positive or negative result on groupscum if they're the last one left, assuming they can't communicate in another way?

I get a guilty if they're not alone in a PT. So sole scum would get an inno even if traitor. So innos are pretty soft. I have a hunch it's 3 scum and tater however.

Wait I just saw this. If it's confirmed there is a traitor then delta could be scum just solo scum that would get an inno result from you?

Could be but the chance is lower than other players so we should hunt elsewhere. We have time.

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I can see 3 + traitor, but wouldn't Kitty's role technically be stronger in that setup than in 2 + traitor?

Wouldn't 4 scum be way too strong with the amount of people we have in the game? If it's confirmed there is a traitor then it should be 2 + traitor

Traitor counts as like, half of a groupscum or even less.

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VOTE: Hu Tao

E-1

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I'm pr. I'd rather not say which at the moment. I softed though

Full claim or hang.

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7 years working nights leading to a munted sleep cycle, the couple upstairs 'making love' and a police raid at the old folks home opposite.

Buzz in when you hear an answer you like.

Yikes.

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Hammmmmmmmmmmeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

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GG WP!

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I didn't suspect Nips, nice one.

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lazy on traitor


lazy on traitor


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I initially misread my role PM and said my informed was "there is a lazy traitor".

A broken clock is right twice a day huh.

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It's an odd interaction lol. Kinda fun though.

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I like setups that twist the normal rules into something unexpected.