Mini Normal 2306: Game Over

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im scum
help me buss

VOTE: Alisae

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Name: Sakura Hana
Occupation: Scumhunter.

Strengths: uhh

i'm cute

?

Weaknesses: Uhh idk.

Very true

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Nah, you're my favorite scum.

if im ur favorite u should help me buss

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Norwee is my other scum buddy
But he refuses to acknowledge me in our PT

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are u nerds actually generating reads.

pshhh

everyone knows u don't actually play mafia.

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I thought i might agree on their read on Sakura having made a sincere post, but then i checked the post they linked and it wasn’t even the one i was thinking of, so perhaps not after all.

stop ignoring me!

baka

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I thought i might agree on their read on Sakura having made a sincere post, but then i checked the post they linked and it wasn’t even the one i was thinking of, so perhaps not after all.

stop ignoring me!

baka

Ur not even playing mafia i can ignore you all i want.

Okay well i say ur scum.

Scum at heart.

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i cant make heads or tails of that gif

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i will say anyone who early townreads sakura should be warned.
that cuteness can hide a sinister face.
scum sakura can easily twist a knife in you all while having a cute smile on her face.

im still rubbing alcohol on my last wound.

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that said im a glutton for punishment and might be down for a round 2 of being pocketed.
depends on how much she flirts with me

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give my grandson sometime

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im scum
help me buss

VOTE: Alisae

Bro I’m a traitor wtf why u bussing me?????

gonna go with the traitor excuse for why ur not talking to me in the scum pt along with norwee
smh

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how are you deriving associations on page 5

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NorwegianboyEE: Very towny, pending consistency tests.

theres a few more tells im waiting for.
But im weakly putting norwee here

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ewww gross how am i playing the game.
Alisae lets talk anime instead

What did you rate the last mushoka tensei episode

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I do like the new avatar btw Sakura, very cute.

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When I post every post is a wolf post so y'know, gotta get in as many posts in as possible, surely you would understand Sakura as I have fooled you many times.

i already outted you though. So you don't need to wolf post anymore, we can anime post instead

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My impressions of Firepup: He's actually solving so he's probably scum.

TRUEEEEEEEE

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Can we all acknowledge that alisae refusing to talk about anime is very sus

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Can we all acknowledge that alisae refusing to talk about anime is very sus

Not gonna let u get away with this

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however, i'm willing to policy Mikhai real quick if they keep bringing up who has the potential of power roles. that's stuff you keep to yourself as town

This post looks very much like a power role

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i am a n0 cop and i can confirm that FL is a miller

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i am a n0 cop and i can confirm that FL is a miller

Even a N0 cop wouldnt be able to confirm that.

It can if you believe in yourself

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i almost want to setup spec but way too early for it. I am not serious enough yet

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Firebringer

osuka

Roden
Mikailtal
Norwegianboy
Sakura Hana
Alisae
Hu Tao

Random Nurse
JasonWazza
Dunnstral

Takutai

im definitely not town.
stop being bad flavor leaf

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if you claim miller right now you will get a free pass for the rest of the game

im mafia miller

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This game is wild

Not even close to game of thrones game Mr King who was promised

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I don't even think ur real buddy

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if i get dayvigged on page 11 that's surely some sort of record so i'm all here for it

for urself because thats definitely not a record for in game.
i think the record is 2nd post

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how does that even happen

you got a link?

viewtopic.php?t=75744

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The only thing we all know for certain:

I am a _ _ _ _ _ _

Someone guess a letter

H

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its good to set goals for yourself

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Ah! i know now what bothered me.
Milkhail's posting feels kinda robotic and void of emotion.

Seems like a personality thing from what i gathered

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H _ _ _ _ _

H O O P L A

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I want to policy elim Sakura Hana

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At least five people so far have publicly expressed sentiments intended to minimise the value of my perspective, with pure optics - all things that could be best left to oneself, entirely unnecessary to bring forward to the gamestate. Consider reading JasonWazza's approach to engaging with me, if you would like insight as to how to be more respectful in the future.

Think you need to continue working on how your expressing your opinion because people are still confused on some of your positions/including me but im not invested in this game enough to question you on any of it.

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VOTE: Hu Tao

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As town you do not have the luxury to dismiss anyone else's perspective

This is something i think you will grow out of with more games.
I dismiss many players perspectives all the time.
All i try to do is understand the perspective enough to get a good enough read on them to say its town or not.

Everything else is just take or leave

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Okay so whats your mafia experience?

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That yellow text on mafia sepia is terrible
Vote to pollicy elim the Nurse

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Okay so whats your mafia experience?

If I were to borrow your phrasing - it is something i think you will grow in to learning.

doubt it.
unless you tell me, im probably going to be stuck in the mindset ur a newbie.
i am a very slow learner

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osuka what mafia game isn't a circus to you

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osuka what even is ur pfp

How do you not know Starcraft 2

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osuka what even is ur pfp

How do you not know Starcraft 2

The only things I know about starcraft is that it's an RTS, it's hard, and "you must construct additional pylons"

fun fact i got started play mafia from sc2mafia mini games
also sc2 is super fun. i should get back into playing it but i bet the multiplayer is dead

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Good that somebody noticed. I was starting to think i was going crazy.

You can still be crazy tho

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Your goal, if you are

town

any alignment

, should be to

find and eliminate scum

have lots of fun

Ftfy

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Mikhail is being a spectacle but I'm not sure that makes him Scum. He's probably an alt being used for experimental play.

Interesting take. Would make me more likely to think Mikhail would be scum if its an experimental alt.

Doubt it though.

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JasonWazza is a power role.

Like if this is experimental alt doing this thing, I go. Yeah scum trying to hide behind experiment to try to pretend doesn't know you don't do these things

But i currently go, nope this is actually mindset and less likely to come from green scum player than more experienced veteran scum.

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Did the mod create a jester by mistake in a mini normal? i cant explain this in any other way.
P-Edit: @Random Nurse: that was directed at Mikhail sorry, how they keep saying X player is a power role.

Jester is not normal unforuntately

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VOTE: Takutai

Wrong place to put your vote. Supposed to be voting me buddy

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Oh ok, for me norwee is a scumlean

Spicy to tell

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Norwee can realistically be mafia but I think given his posting so far he's probably town

Basically this

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im always down for pushing norwee for his reactions.
though i kind of figure at this point he would catch on to me pushing him that way to get useful info

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page 15 hero solve time:
here is the scum team folks, date and time stamp and frame it cause I got the game solved
Alisae - pokemon master
Hua Tau - pokemon novice trainer
JasonWazza - professor oak

Ngl, not too happy about my nicknames for scum team players. Might rethink that one later

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Sakura whats ur favorite recent anime?

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Watching Vash the Stampede. Will give live reviews as I watch.
So far pretty decent.

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Trigun the Stampede*

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mafia definitely isn't for the faint of heart

anyways just listen to the op song from trigun stampede. Pretty chill shit

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Alisae trying to be intimidating is adorable

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VOTE: Dunnstral
ill sheep my scumbuddy here

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What has dunn done

He betrayed me in team mafia

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ngl i kind of want revenge on dunn for team mafia.
i could have had him on day 1 and then i got tripped up on how he responded to me

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don't actually think a pressure wagon on dunn to produce reads is all that useful from my experience. I think im better at reading him when i just see his natural posting and examine it.

I say that while having lost him in tm tho. So grains of salt

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Maybe, is there cake if i do?

yes but only raspberry.

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Why would you put a cat on a cake

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okay im going to bed, goodnight fellow nerds.

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What about pie then

you didn't want it, so i gave it to the mod.

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more votes on me

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whats scummy about osuka and Takutai

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i think norwe feels town but i'm generally wary of him as a player. i think alisae can go either way here and i think you're leaning town? FL is a mystery so i dont even try to read him d1. RN is a slot i wanna dig into more, but i feel like i need more content to do that. everyone else i don't have anything worth saying about for the time being

i agree with 90% of this

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not sure why we moved off dunnstral if the point was to get him to solving when he came in.

got nothing out of what he has posted so far

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I don't understand how you would have a read on Tak in the first place since most of their posts have been ?? to me.

This is my stance on Tak thats why i want someone to explain a scumread. I have got nothing from tak

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pretty happy where i am with my vote even though i was just sheeping to begin with

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kind of shocked sakura doesn't have a title

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actually luna fox should get a title instead

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I don't have much time for this game unfortunately.
Pretty cool with going first

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I could lim firepup.
Even tho i'd feel bad, coz he may have in'd here just to play with me.

you were one of the reasons

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Is it bad to say that i don’t dislike that vote?

Fire seems exceptionally useless in this game.

imagine thinking i was ever useful

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yeah me not having time means nothing

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i heavily disagree that im being fatalist just because im bitching about my lack of time to play

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but its not worth arguing. I still like my current vote, nothing in last few pages changed much for me.

Norwee town.
Alisae probably town
Sakura hana lean town


Those are three i care about for being town and feel pretty okay with.
fine putting pressure eliminating any of Dunnstral/Jason/Nurse/Hu Tao

Willing to give free day passes to Osuka/FL and not think about either of them. THough I have gut pings on town on both.

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If you were scum that would put your team at a disadvantage on a mini, on the flipside probably we dont get much info out of it anyway since you haven't had much time to play to begin with.

No it wouldn't.
Scum win way more games when they get elimmed day 1.

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Fine with pressuring or voting.

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VOTE: Takutai

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i have 10 more minutes for my exceptionally late lunch.
And no anime releases to watch.

So im here to shoot the shit

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I would probably be copping Fire if I was a cop

plot twist: I am the cop

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[yin] firebringer really looks like mafia bussing as a lategame gambit? even if replaced the slot looks good if takutai flips mafiaΔ

always be bussing

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i like sakura previous avatar better

Also what is with the [yin] tags

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my first forum mafia game i was scum who fake claimed cop and then faked a guilty on a player day 3, then somehow magically evaded elim day 4 to quick hammer a townie to win the game.

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no oone should go after my grandson.

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congrats on the title norwee

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Oh, hell no, you're not turning me against my townreads.

You're unwilling to reevaluate? This just seems weird, not in a scummy way just curious

Not unwilling, but i always have a tendency to dislike when someone tries to destroy my townreads because makes me feel im actually right there, if anything it just reinforces them.

theres a psychological phenomenon about this. amybe its just called confirmation bias.

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Here's the point I will make, if it seems too easy, then it is.

All our read's lists are way too similar, to the point where I think there is scum in this Town Block we have been creating.

It's a 13 player game, and our reads only contradict on like 4 players.

A point was made about there being a lot of strong social players right now, and I agree, but it makes me worried, because I think said players are also using the other players as cover, to skirt on by, while not actually attempting to solve, and maintaining this easy "here's the town block that we all agree on right?"

paranoia about a townblock this early isn't useful to actually sorting, if you think theres actual scum in it fine but just trying to spread paranoia could mean breaking up a legit townblock. Which is only beneficial to scum.

also not seeing who could be influencing this playerset to make or do said townblock/forcing it. Like i think ali seems most outspoken but if alisae is scum it doesn't look like trying to force a certain block of reads/players.

All this to say this is bad.
Minus 3 points from ravenclaw

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i've come to conclude that today's vote should be firebringer or dunnstral. firebringer, to me is providing me with the familiar feeling of being a player where there's clearly intangible resistance to getting them eliminated which i attribute as being scummy but also as very difficult to successfully put down d1. dunnstral's the slot i have the most qualms with at this point on a pure information basis as i don't have much in the way of understanding or expectations of them yet. all things considered town's been rather thorough in establishing base premises today and a decision needs to be made soon before inertia takes hold and we end up compromising and settling for a future nobody really wanted in the interest of avoiding everyone's worst option rather than a decent portion of ours' best option.

i actively encourage wagons on me. If you want a wagon on me to progress vote me and tell others to do so.

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im just being funny

its only funny when i claim scum

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VOTE: Dunnstral

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Dunny come in here and talk to me.
Tell me ur read on me for instance

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Just because u didn’t laugh doesn’t mean it’s not funny

as long as at least ur laughing at ur own jokes.
Then its still a joke

But if u tell a joke in a forest and no one laughs even you. Was it really a joke

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we should really night kill sakura hana.
she is onto us

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woops sorry wrong pt

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i actually laughed at that

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anyone besides me find this game extremely boring
lets get a wagon going on me so i can care about this game more.

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anyone besides me find this game extremely boring
lets get a wagon going on me so i can care about this game more.

It is pro town to vote this slot and I will town lock anyone who does

VOTE: Fire

VOTE: Fire
LETS GOOOOO

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Ur no fun

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This game could really use a Shirou

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VOTE: DUNNYBOI

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Lets get that dirty dunnyboi

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If anything, i actually would hope to be wrong. Because you're probably the only real good town player if you are one.

Insulted

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Or in a more longer explanation:
1) I see you scumhunting, come up empty, and now you're sitting there doing pretty much nothing, you arent even using your vote after telling us when we wagoned Tak that we should be using our vote.
2) I know you like to joke by scum claiming, although not to the extent like firebringer.
3) I'm not gonna live with myself, if you're scum and i let you live after claiming scum so much in thread.

wait why are u fine with me living claiming scum but not alisae.

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Scum!Dunn tends to be low activity compared to town!Dunn, in my experience

If his buddies are waiting for him to come back to defend himself then the lack of activity makes sense

dunn tends to be low activity always.
BUt i do agree i think this could be his scum game.

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VOTE: Dunn

UNVOTE:

I've been hoodwinked

this is why you always ask for the vote to remain for at least 24 hours.
Got to be a lawyer when you negotiate with alisae

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arguing with the mod in game isn't very useful

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i claim scum in almost every game i play

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its really becoming to cliche for me to do so.
i should claim town more often but i find that even more cringe than me just continuing to keep claiming scum

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Sakura, i can see a world alisae is scum here but im more leaning town on e
and i don't think ur push is doing much, its def not convincing me.

I think dunnstral is much better wagon to push
just let ali be and do ali things.

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I am not much of a salesman

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i don't know what that is supposed to mean sakura

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i don't know what that is supposed to mean sakura

I'm trying to sell my reasoning, even if it's not working coz im bad.

do you want me to argue against ur reasoning or what though.
I don't think alisae not doing anything with e vote is meaning anything, when you say e hasn't come up with a solve/scum i go "okay maybe that could mean something" but when i go through e posts i go it kind of makes sense for e not to be pushing anything at this moment. And I think alisae could easily push whatever e wants as scum and might be even more vocal about pushes.

like my gut feeling on alisae town is i think alisae gives players more breathing room for developing own reads without disrupting them and trying to control the dialogue. I see alisae trying to control the dialogue a bit here but theres definitely a feeling that alisae is letting more discussion that i think e would power through to control narratives if e was scum.

That is my thought process right now at least.

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@Firepup: who is scum.

In Dunnstral/Jason/Tak/Nurse/Hu Tao

I lean more on Dunnstral/Jason right now as top contenders

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I haven't liked a single push Jason has done this game.

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im still here

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why is dunnstral a bad push?

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why is dunnstral a bad push?

Why am I a

good

push?

your empty posting. Where r u reads

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I haven't liked a single push Jason has done this game.

And that makes me scum?

This game frankly just feels annoying to play because no one is DOING anything, i try to get shit done to work on what I'm feeling, and then people decide to actively do less, and this is fucking frustrating.

None of my pushes have been a set in stone you are scum, it's been mostly trying to get actual reactions out, because frankly my reads feel shit, and the Town Block we have feels even worse.

But hey if I'm scum for trying to do shit, go for it get me out.

besides the early push on norwee, i fail to see how most of ur pushes are just reaction testing.

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dark gathering episode 3 - 1/4
I think the spooky factor is starting to wane

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Well since FL didnt reply i'll just do it then. Sorry it took a bit.

Dayvig: Random Nurse

when you're so desperate you're faking dayvigs

Fire, whatever Alisae, you want me to be useless for the rest of the game i'll just vote you for the rest of the game
VOTE: Alisae

Just do whatever makes you enjoy the game

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u made the assertion

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alisae agreeing with me is weird

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jason why do you not want to discuss ur FL reasoning on faking.
U were complaining people don't want to do anything yet ur not helping by refusing to explain ur own reasoning for why FL is faking miller

I don't like how ur engaging in these back and forths either with ur scumreads either. It doesn't feel very much like talking to scumreads

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jason why do you not want to discuss ur FL reasoning on faking.
U were complaining people don't want to do anything yet ur not helping by refusing to explain ur own reasoning for why FL is faking miller

I don't like how ur engaging in these back and forths either with ur scumreads either. It doesn't feel very much like talking to scumreads

Hint: this is the first thing Alisae actually wants to actually engage with me on, why am I going to not take this opportunity to try and get something useful from it?

if ur telling me ur trying to reaction test alisae.
I don't believe at all thats what ur doing

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I've voted almost the entire lobby at this point, why are they scum for it and not me?

ur progression makes sense

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I would love to be in a scum team with sakura
Its been ages since we been on one.
I think last was a marathon years ago

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Who said reaction test?

I said something, Alisae has reacted in a way to actually generate information, I'm not going to just give them an answer if we can generate information from it instead.

feel like we playing word games
ur saying ur getting something out of alisae.
What have u gotten out of alisae

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I don't care much about the people i haven't played with before.
But the people with tangible meta on me thinking im even capable of faking all this posting?
Now that's sus.

So ur saying all i gotta do is fake a scumread on u and u will sus me....

tempting offer.

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Not sure cause i don't understand what ur position on me or alisae at this point with how ur engaging with either of us.

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I don't care much about the people i haven't played with before.
But the people with tangible meta on me thinking im even capable of faking all this posting?
Now that's sus.

So ur saying all i gotta do is fake a scumread on u and u will sus me....

tempting offer.

I mean, tell me if im wrong.
If the mod in Anything UPick, didnt provide me the tools and the fake claim he did... i wouldnt have made it out of day 1 or maybe even day 2 alive that game.
You guys didnt lose to me, you lost to the mod.

i think u have a larger scum range but i don't intend to argue the point because i don't scumread u

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Not sure cause i don't understand what ur position on me or alisae at this point with how ur engaging with either of us.

I mean I'm mostly just giving you off hand comments.

Getting Alisae to give me actual reasoning for their thought patterns helps me with my own reads, not sure how exactly that is unclear.

I am not seeing u develop any reads here

Fire do u think Sakura is out of wolfrange

Yea

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its mostly a gut feeling

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ali is the only thing ur worried about sakura is her read on u?

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okay well im going to crash. anime was pretty disappointing today

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Everytime you post something like this i can literally see you in your beach shorts sipping an girly drink at the Bahamas resort with your sunglasses and tiny macbook pc, typing down with piano fingers: "Hehe, just do what makes you enjoy the game , as you go off to bask in the sun and continue feeling accomplished despite doing nothing in this game of mafia!!

Whyyy!!

saying ive done nothing in this game is pretty ridiculous

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@mod V/A for next three days

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If Alisae or Fire was town they would probably be more fun to play with, but since they view me as their enemy they are forcing themself to discredit me. It's very sad.

how am i discrediting you
you said ive been doing nothing and now im discrediting you
which is it

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why are u ignoring me Norwee

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VOTE: Jason

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actually i will just sheep sakura
VOTE: Nurse

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welcome to the busy club

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i really want a one on one chat with norwee. we can sit by the cozy fireplace and discuss all about how i am discrediting him and not doing anything.

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Firebringer, Random, Dunnstral, Taku

can contain all the scum and this game makes sense.

or 1 scum is in Norwegian/Sakura/Alisae, and that can just be figured out later.

Either way, I don't think this game is that confusing.


Sheep and Jason are my top town reads right now.

You should help me buss Sakura

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I think alisae needs to take a thread break for a day or two

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i really want a one on one chat with norwee. we can sit by the cozy fireplace and discuss all about how i am discrediting him and not doing anything.

What was your latest game as Scum?

The one we are in

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i really want a one on one chat with norwee. we can sit by the cozy fireplace and discuss all about how i am discrediting him and not doing anything.

What was your latest game as Scum?

The one we are in

No I mean before this one.

this one - viewtopic.php?t=91116

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Flavor talk to me here.
Who should i be voting for

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*Him. my bad.

too late ur already B&ed

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memes are supposed to be funny. so no

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the bigger question is if all the miller claims are real.
survey right now says yes
my gut says no

im actually leaning to scum know about millers and claimed early which i think indicates FL the most
Would be spicy.

But i don't care for pushing this theory unless flavor is here past like day 4.

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btw if i was a cop i think i would check osuka tonight

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btw if i was a cop i think i would check osuka tonight

thats the only way you can figure out my alignment pre-flip, so props to you for realizing it

I might need to cop u twice just to be sure tho

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I guess it's possible fire is scum too.
It's kinda weird that it's been 87 pages and i dont townread them hard yet.

don't see why you would at this point

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Is it just me, or does Roden's vote seem rather opportunistic?

and mine isn't?

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Is it just me, or does Roden's vote seem rather opportunistic?

and mine isn't?

It does seem rather opportunistic too, tbh.

Ohh good. Wouldn't want roden to outshine me.
Did u check out my previous scum game yet

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that can't be right, im never town

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okay i will actually give u a scum game-
viewtopic.php?t=90542

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Why am i getting ignored

did someone put a ignore me sign on my back and not tell me.

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im annoyed with norwee but im not voting him ever today.
Especially when i want a one on one with him

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osuka if ur a miller why the fuck would u respond to me saying i would cop u with the fact thats the only way to tell ur alignment.

that makes no fucking sense if ur town

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im annoyed with norwee but im not voting him ever today.
Especially when i want a one on one with him

Ara

So you rather be voted off instead?

I actually forgot you were here lol

. . . . . .. . .

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osuka if ur a miller why the fuck would u respond to me saying i would cop u with the fact thats the only way to tell ur alignment.

that makes no fucking sense if ur town

because nobody puts a cop in a 3-miller setup

that's so much worse than useless it's anti-town

what doesn't make sense is u saying u don't believe there is a cop so ur reaction to someone claiming they would cop check u is to pretend that would be best way to clear u.

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VOTE: osuka
don't mind if i do

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we aren't in the setup FL posted

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we aren't in the setup FL posted

and you know this because?

ill let your teammates take guesses on that

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2366 only comes from you if you're informed, a pr, or scum. i don't believe you're a pr and if you're informed then you might as well just say it, because i'm not getting off of this wagon today

good luck with that

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Why does the fire wagon seems like it's stayed at 3 the whole time

ive thought little about my wagon because i have yet to examine any of the votes ever put on me this game which is unusual for me cause thats like normally half my scumhunting

I would normally lean towards scum don't want to vote me but i don't think thats true. You have osuka here joining on as omgus vote for instance. We have your vote that is basically unexplained.

And we have norwee who is sussing me not voting me and not talking to me.
The way people interacting with me this game is like pretty distant/weird.

The cool thing about this game is im not being put in most people townreads. The bad thing is i don't see how people are making their reads of me which is weakening my scumhunting.

All of this to say is I am starting to think if Norwee is scum and has told his teammates not to push me because he wants to keep me around, as he has expressed in other games and I think theres some back and forth of that now that we are approaching deadline.

I should be an easy push for scum to make on me as I am not going try hard and im not uber active

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this is where im sitting right now:

town-
alisae, sakura, roden, sheeps
flavor leaf
Dunnstral, Takutai, Random Nurse, Norwee
Hu Tao, JasonWazza
Osuka

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Sakura Hana has been killed! She was...

Vanilla Townie!

Spoiler: Role PM

Vanilla Townie

Welcome Sakura Hana! You are a

Vanilla Townie!

You are aligned with the Town, and win when all members of the Mafia have been eliminated.
Your powers are your voice, and your vote.
Please confirm your role by replying to this PM with your role name and alignment.

SHENANIGANS

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i tried to guard sakura last night. So there are some night shenanigans going on

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Fire submits that night kill ig?

yeah i would and thats why i tried to protect her lol

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i tried to guard sakura last night. So there are some night shenanigans going on

Why did you target Sakura? And you are claiming you used some protective action?

I think the answer to these two are pretty obvious buddy

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you better not be townreading me on claim alone

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im going to come back to this in a bit to think about what i think happened last night.
i don't think i hinted strongly at PR at all. So I am not sure why a scum roleblocker would target me?

and honestly my read on alisae needs rethinking and reworking. Alisae/Norwee has one scum in it and I am moving more towards Norwee but its very weak. Need to look at both.

I should be upset i was wrong on osuka, but you know. I am really not.

Lots to think about

pedit flavor i was more talking to norwee than u. I don't really examine how u read me but if norwee is going to throw me in as a townread for claim and be lazy that just gives him more scum points imo.

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you were extremely annoying day 1.
i still want u to explain how i was discrediting you on day 1.

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you were extremely annoying day 1.
i still want u to explain how i was discrediting you on day 1.

You were smugly laughing at me when i wasn't looking, and then telling Alisae in scum PT about how much fun it was to toy with me. I could tell that's what you were doing.

i always laugh at u.

on the serious though, can u explain the discrediting you

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If Alisae or Fire was town they would probably be more fun to play with, but since they view me as their enemy they are forcing themself to discredit me. It's very sad.

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up to that point all i said on you was that u were a townread and that it might be worthy to push u because u likely will be obvtown if pushed but that it might not be worth it because ive used that too many times on you for u not to catch on and have better reaction.

So don't understand where ur perspective is coming from actual events

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Norwee can realistically be mafia but I think given his posting so far he's probably town

Basically this

im always down for pushing norwee for his reactions.
though i kind of figure at this point he would catch on to me pushing him that way to get useful info

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and then i later called u town, and i said i wasn't voting u later in the day.
So ur making shit up.

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who are Norwegian's most likely partners, fire?

idk im not doing partner hunting right now.
My gut still says Norwee is town.

Idk maybe dicotomy of Alisae/Norwee is wrong too.
Maybe its just TvT

Alot of stuff from norwee just doesn't add up. But gut/tone I am feeling he is town. Logically, I think scum.

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im for hypo claiming

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Organization and order helps town.

Chaos helps scum.

wtf are you talking about it's literally the exact opposite?

What are u talking about

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Hu Tao also is implying they’re not Cop which is lowering the pool even more.

Like come on, i give it to you on a silver platter.

If you’re town, act like a cop. It’s that simple.

You act like you’re saving cop, but I’ve been doing so much more cop protection than all of y’all, and i get “hypo claiming bad i don’t understand it so bad”

I did not confirm or deny anything. I just stated that I've townread norwee since yesterday.

im reading this like you know that Norwee is town

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VOTE: roden

Roden is like one of my top townreads
What is the reason for this vote, you just said you had trouble getting scumreads too

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I was doing more to defend Norwegian than anyone else, and there was plenty of support to kill them.

I disagree but then is this important thing to argue against. Probably not.
So i am not going to argue this

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I don't think RC looks back on those arguments as fun times lol

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Alisae reread Norwee frustration this game and tell me if u think this is actual scum frustration/annoyance at being pushed or if its just NAI

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VOTE: Hua Tao

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i wouldn't mind wagoning dunn too

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u didn't answer mine and im feeling pretty petty

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yet ur voting him

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so i want u to engage with question on norwee and u saying i don't want to comment on him anymore while voting with him, is pretty ridiculous

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so i want u to engage with question on norwee and u saying i don't want to comment on him anymore while voting with him, is pretty ridiculous

You think it's ridiculous to not play my hand?

i didn't know we were playing 3d chess