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Abnegation she/herGoonshe/her
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i think i've played with a few of you.
observation: the presence or absence of scum multitasking is not noted anywhere in the original modposts. i wonder if that means we're up against all goons?Showlowercase alt of alianna.
i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.
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well, usually the mod would tell us whether or not the mafia can multitask by default (commit the kill and use whatever abilities they have in the same night). when i skimmed the rules post, i noticed that the mod didn't actually make a ruling on this. i'm speculating that maybe the reason for the oversight is that the mafia don't have any abilities to use, and therefore it doesn't matter if they can multitask or not.In post 9, Hu Tao wrote:
What does this second part even mean?In post 8, Abnegation wrote: i think i've played with a few of you.
observation: the presence or absence of scum multitasking is not noted anywhere in the original modposts. i wonder if that means we're up against all goons?
in that vein,@mod - is multitasking enabled by default?Showlowercase alt of alianna.
i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.
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i don't specifically look for it, but i always give the rules and setup info at least a skim. multitasking-or-not is something i'm used to seeing in the setup post and it stuck out to me that it was missing.In post 13, Hu Tao wrote:
I see. Is that something specific you look for every game?In post 11, Abnegation wrote:
well, usually the mod would tell us whether or not the mafia can multitask by default (commit the kill and use whatever abilities they have in the same night). when i skimmed the rules post, i noticed that the mod didn't actually make a ruling on this. i'm speculating that maybe the reason for the oversight is that the mafia don't have any abilities to use, and therefore it doesn't matter if they can multitask or not.In post 9, Hu Tao wrote:
What does this second part even mean?In post 8, Abnegation wrote: i think i've played with a few of you.
observation: the presence or absence of scum multitasking is not noted anywhere in the original modposts. i wonder if that means we're up against all goons?
in that vein,@mod - is multitasking enabled by default?Showlowercase alt of alianna.
i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.
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oh, for sure, i'm not saying it's absolutely a modslip. there just isn't much to post about yet so might as well throw some speculation out there.In post 17, camelCasedSnivy wrote: could just be a mistake ykShowlowercase alt of alianna.
i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.
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this is fakeable but it looks like good-faith solving, i'll give it a bit of a townlean for now.In post 25, Klazam wrote: Alright I looked at some other games’ rules posts, I’m new to that particular thing, wasn’t a thing when I played here awhile ago.
Because it appears to be a thing here on site (I did see a couple that didn’t mention the multitasking whatsoever). That particular piece of setup spec makes more sense to me so gonna
UNVOTE: Abnegation
I think it would be weird for scum to make the particular comment that he did with the above in mind, so Ima sliiight lean town on abneg.
I doubt that we could rely on the absence of multitasking in the rules to tell us anything though.
Back on you my vote goes
VOTE: davesaz
p-edit: yeah, doing preflip associatives is pretty common now (though not always advisable).Showlowercase alt of alianna.
i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.
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let's add some more then!In post 56, Doctor Drew wrote: I know I should unvote, but I like some pressure on Anaconda.
VOTE: abnegationShowlowercase alt of alianna.
i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.
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i wasn't here ten years ago but my old games do make me cringe lol.In post 80, Scorpious wrote: Anyone ever read games they wrote ten years ago?
Was everyone cringe or just me?Showlowercase alt of alianna.
i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.
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my townstreak will reach the triple digits before i get to do that lol.Showlowercase alt of alianna.
i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.
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i'm a little surprised too, oftentimes there is more of a reaction from people who don't know i do that a lot.In post 128, Klazam wrote: I like Hu Tao’s response to my pressure.
cCS, I like less.
I know it’s literally been a day since we started but I’m surprised people are not reacting to abnegation’s self vote.
That’s my thoughts right now. See y’all later tonight or tomorrow
In post 130, davesaz wrote: I think it's relevant in the sense that the vote isn't being used elsewhere, perhaps to push someone. In this context there isn't much difference between ignoring you've been voted vs. self voting as a reaction. But it is different from saying things about those who agree/disagree/ignore the reasons for the votes.
my approach to joke self-votes is this: if i can, i will. i don't really care if it's an unproductive use of my vote or whatever, it's fun.
i didn't say much about the votes on me because i don't find them particularly ai and there isn't much to respond to in the reasoning. thinking i couldn't have noticed the multitasking ruling was missing is...understandable i guess? but i did notice it. i also noticed that executed players can't talk during twilight for some reason, which is definitely not the norm, and (conveniently?) neglected to mention it until now. i really don't know what towncred i get out of posting that kind of speculation though.
p-edit: what's the reasoning for that vote?Showlowercase alt of alianna.
i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.
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ebwop to fix the quoting.
i'm a little surprised too, oftentimes there is more of a reaction from people who don't know i do that a lot.In post 128, Klazam wrote: I like Hu Tao’s response to my pressure.
cCS, I like less.
I know it’s literally been a day since we started but I’m surprised people are not reacting to abnegation’s self vote.
That’s my thoughts right now. See y’all later tonight or tomorrow
my approach to joke self-votes is this: if i can, i will. i don't really care if it's an unproductive use of my vote or whatever, it's fun.In post 130, davesaz wrote: I think it's relevant in the sense that the vote isn't being used elsewhere, perhaps to push someone. In this context there isn't much difference between ignoring you've been voted vs. self voting as a reaction. But it is different from saying things about those who agree/disagree/ignore the reasons for the votes.
i didn't say much about the votes on me because i don't find them particularly ai and there isn't much to respond to in the reasoning. thinking i couldn't have noticed the multitasking ruling was missing is...understandable i guess? but i did notice it. i also noticed that executed players can't talk during twilight for some reason, which is definitely not the norm, and (conveniently?) neglected to mention it until now. i really don't know what towncred i get out of posting that kind of speculation though.
p-edit: what's the reasoning for that vote?Showlowercase alt of alianna.
i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.
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what are you trying to do with the vote? do you actually find that scum-indicative or is it more of a pressure vote to try to get them to do something?In post 139, BlackStar wrote: It just seems like all of their posts are joking around instead of trying to do somethingShowlowercase alt of alianna.
i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.
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i will have to disagree with you on that.In post 142, BlackStar wrote:
I think it's scum indicativeIn post 140, Abnegation wrote:
what are you trying to do with the vote? do you actually find that scum-indicative or is it more of a pressure vote to try to get them to do something?In post 139, BlackStar wrote: It just seems like all of their posts are joking around instead of trying to do somethingShowlowercase alt of alianna.
i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.
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i may have a meta read on leek, but need to check a couple more games.
this post is mainly a note to self to do that tonight.Showlowercase alt of alianna.
i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.
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In post 145, Abnegation wrote:
i will have to disagree with you on that.In post 142, BlackStar wrote:
I think it's scum indicativeIn post 140, Abnegation wrote:
what are you trying to do with the vote? do you actually find that scum-indicative or is it more of a pressure vote to try to get them to do something?In post 139, BlackStar wrote: It just seems like all of their posts are joking around instead of trying to do something
was hoping the response to 138 might be ai but i'm not really getting anything from it.Showlowercase alt of alianna.
i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.
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update: i never got around to this, will do tomorrow.In post 146, Abnegation wrote: i may have a meta read on leek, but need to check a couple more games.
this post is mainly a note to self to do that tonight.Showlowercase alt of alianna.
i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.
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Abnegation she/herGoonshe/her
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not really. i modded newbie 2125 on my main account, but we haven't played together.In post 154, SzmarzLeek wrote:
do I know you? I can't recallIn post 152, Abnegation wrote:
update: i never got around to this, will do tomorrow.In post 146, Abnegation wrote: i may have a meta read on leek, but need to check a couple more games.
this post is mainly a note to self to do that tonight.
i opened up your iso this game and 67 struck me as a little odd in comparison to the rest of it. you said you like hu tao for pushing the game forward and saying what they don't like instead of fluffposting, but i don't see you doing much of that yourself. you've got a couple of one-liner townreads, a couple of fluffposts, and a few clarifying questions that don't really lead much of anywhere. if i look back to newbie 2125 (iso link), there was more analyzing and pushing people and using your vote in the initial pages. it was pretty clear that you were trying to get reads on every slot. i'm not seeing that from you here. i had a look at the beginning of newbie 2122 as well, and it also seems quite different from this game. for some reason i thought you had more games than that but it seems that's it.
i realize this might seem contradictory with my blackstar interaction (namely 145), so i'll just clarify now. i don't find low-content posting scummy by itself. it's the context of the posting that's pinging me in this situation.Showlowercase alt of alianna.
i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.
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In post 163, davesaz wrote: Leek is pretty devoid of content, how did you manage to get double digit posts and hardly say anything?
i think you will like 164 then.Showlowercase alt of alianna.
i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.
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now that i have a lead, i can vote. i was occupied with marathon all afternoon so couldn't get to it then.In post 162, davesaz wrote:I don't see the purpose for Abnegation to still be self voting. It's still the first 1/4 of day so being on the sidelines isn't urgent yet, but it isn't doing anything to advance the game and that's troubling.
admittedly not the strongest read in the world but worth pursuing, methinks.
VOTE: szmarzleekShowlowercase alt of alianna.
i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.
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i don't think you ever mentioned townreading leek?In post 168, KittyTacky wrote: I think camel is town.
Abnegation is town, let's be honest it's fine if RVS votes stay until page 7.
Now that the leek thing is pointed out my tentative TR on him has crumbled. If I vote soon then I'm voting there.
Klaz also town imo.Showlowercase alt of alianna.
i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.
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actually that might be a townslip.Showlowercase alt of alianna.
i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.
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it points towards kitty having a real read on leek that they just didn't post for whatever reason, as opposed to making up a townread "crumbling" when they'd never even mentioned one.
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i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.
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i feel like i'm not explaining this very well but i can't think how to explain it better.In post 174, Abnegation wrote:it points towards kitty having a real read on leek that they just didn't post for whatever reason, as opposed to making up a townread "crumbling" when they'd never even mentioned one.
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i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.
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i mean, they could have gotten mixed up, it just vibes town to me and idk how to explain it.In post 176, Doctor Drew wrote:
Meh that seems like a stretch, they also could have just made up the town read and forgot they actually posted said read.In post 175, Abnegation wrote:
i feel like i'm not explaining this very well but i can't think how to explain it better.In post 174, Abnegation wrote:it points towards kitty having a real read on leek that they just didn't post for whatever reason, as opposed to making up a townread "crumbling" when they'd never even mentioned one.
I am watching you Aspartame.Showlowercase alt of alianna.
i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.
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i did actually roll scum today, rolled red in marathon secret hitler. that was...an experience.In post 178, Doctor Drew wrote:
I will admit, genuinely happy for you that you finally rolled scum.In post 177, Abnegation wrote:
i mean, they could have gotten mixed up, it just vibes town to me and idk how to explain it.In post 176, Doctor Drew wrote:
Meh that seems like a stretch, they also could have just made up the town read and forgot they actually posted said read.In post 175, Abnegation wrote:
i feel like i'm not explaining this very well but i can't think how to explain it better.In post 174, Abnegation wrote:it points towards kitty having a real read on leek that they just didn't post for whatever reason, as opposed to making up a townread "crumbling" when they'd never even mentioned one.
I am watching you Aspartame.Showlowercase alt of alianna.
i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.
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Abnegation she/herGoonshe/her
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i might run one myself if i feel like it tomorrow. we'll see though.In post 180, Doctor Drew wrote:
Oh I love that game, hope someone runs another one during marathon.In post 179, Abnegation wrote:
i did actually roll scum today, rolled red in marathon secret hitler. that was...an experience.In post 178, Doctor Drew wrote:
I will admit, genuinely happy for you that you finally rolled scum.In post 177, Abnegation wrote:
i mean, they could have gotten mixed up, it just vibes town to me and idk how to explain it.In post 176, Doctor Drew wrote:
Meh that seems like a stretch, they also could have just made up the town read and forgot they actually posted said read.In post 175, Abnegation wrote:
i feel like i'm not explaining this very well but i can't think how to explain it better.In post 174, Abnegation wrote:it points towards kitty having a real read on leek that they just didn't post for whatever reason, as opposed to making up a townread "crumbling" when they'd never even mentioned one.
I am watching you Aspartame.Showlowercase alt of alianna.
i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.
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Abnegation she/herGoonshe/her
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is your sr on me a serious read?Showlowercase alt of alianna.
i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.
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Abnegation she/herGoonshe/her
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no, i've literally never seen you make a joke post. are you implying your read is a joke? that's weird. i'm keeping an eye on you.In post 183, Doctor Drew wrote:
Do I ever joke around?In post 182, Abnegation wrote: is your sr on me a serious read?
(i figured, but i thought it better to ask than to assume)Showlowercase alt of alianna.
i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.
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Abnegation she/herGoonshe/her
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you're right that there is less to work with here. i'm not fully persuaded to move my vote yet, but you make some decent points.In post 194, SzmarzLeek wrote: I read your analysis on me Abnegation and... there isn't a single lie or distortion there.
Indeed I'm playing differently here. I noticed that too and it's not intentional. It seems like this game is slow and there's not a lot of content. It's a bit weird and might come up as hypocritical that I'm not creating content myself and say there's not a lot, but it feels weird that we have 8 pages for 13 players. I'm used to higher level of activity. Then I have stuff to read and act upon. This game feels ultra slow and a bit awkward. Like eg. , we're talking about some guy voting himself. That's not much to go with and like, some fluff and NAI to me, especially at this phase. I don't have stuff to work with. Expect more from me, the more content we have. Right now I'm just waiting for stuff to happen. I'm not sure if we're still in a fluffy phase + RVS stage or not. Doesn't feel like this game has started properly. That's my vibes here.
would you say you scumread any of the voters?In post 194, SzmarzLeek wrote:eg votes on camel are weird for me, because he seems to have a towny chill and not giving a damn vibe judging their entrance.
i find that it's occasionally useful for information-gathering purposes (making observations about player meta, which tells are effective, etc.), but i wouldn't say it does much to improve my skills. it probably depends on the person.In post 197, SzmarzLeek wrote: Abnegation does modding help you play better? Never modded a game and probably won't, one of the mods in my community says it helps improve the scum/town skills when they play. Wondering if you share that view.Showlowercase alt of alianna.
i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.
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hiiiiiiiiiiiiii!!!In post 233, Ame wrote: Hiiiiiiiiiiiii!!!!Showlowercase alt of alianna.
i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.
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something does seem off with this post now that you mention it. the "if i had to pick one of my townleans to be a scumlean" phrasing is a bit weird. i know i've thought, "if i'm wrong on one of my townreads it's X," and, "i'm least confident in X being town," but this reads differently from that. the trying to make a townlean into a scumlean feels artificial.In post 242, Ame wrote:
OK why even mention the the town possibility shouldn't be discussed, it just brings attention to the fact that you think he's a PR anyway. I also don't think your would-be scumlean on Hu is genuine.In post 162, davesaz wrote: I can think of at least three ways for Flavor Leaf to be this way, one each town, scum, and NAI. The town and NAI ones shouldn't be discussed and can't be discussed respectively.
Reserved FL isn't something I see too often, though as I mentioned before it's been quite a while. If I had to guess I'd say it's the NAI version.
Hu and Klaz feel like they're solving, and townleans. If I had to pick one of them to be a scumlean it would be Hu but that's primarily driven by a feeling that voting is the main way of generating conflict to get reads from, which makes me biased against not voting.
I don't see the purpose for Abnegation to still be self voting. It's still the first 1/4 of day so being on the sidelines isn't urgent yet, but it isn't doing anything to advance the game and that's troubling.
i know that, that's what i meant.In post 242, Ame wrote:
Ab, Kitty isn't saying they posted a TR on Leek, he's saying that he had a tentative TR on him in his mind.In post 168, KittyTacky wrote: I think camel is town.
Abnegation is town, let's be honest it's fine if RVS votes stay until page 7.
Now that the leek thing is pointed out my tentative TR on him has crumbled. If I vote soon then I'm voting there.
Klaz also town imo.Showlowercase alt of alianna.
i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.
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feeling better about szmarzleek's recent posting, this is closer to what i've seen from them before.
UNVOTE:Showlowercase alt of alianna.
i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.
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it's actually ringing the opposite bell for me. i wouldn't expect scum to openly admit that they care how they look. i'd think most scum that aren't completely new would be aware that saying that can come off suspicious and avoid doing it, unless it's some sort of wifom play relying on the expectation that people will use the logic i'm using here.In post 338, Klazam wrote:
This is ringing a little bell in my brain. Why do you care how you look?In post 324, KittyTacky wrote: Stay silent? It'd make me look even worse.Showlowercase alt of alianna.
i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.
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who is this addressed to?In post 355, SzmarzLeek wrote:regarding this list
does any name here strike you personally as "that'd be a bad lim" or "hell no, I won't put a vote there d1"?Showlowercase alt of alianna.
i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.
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i would say i have a light townread on kittytacky and wouldn't vote there if i had to choose now. undecided on the other two.In post 355, SzmarzLeek wrote:regarding this list
does any name here strike you personally as "that'd be a bad lim" or "hell no, I won't put a vote there d1"?Showlowercase alt of alianna.
i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.
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actually idk who i'd vote if i had to choose now, probably should open up some isos.Showlowercase alt of alianna.
i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.
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meh, i could be grasping at straws here. they are pretty much the same thing, just different ways of looking at it. the way you phrased it felt oddly forced because i don't get why you would feel like you'd need to pick one of your townleans to be a scumlean. or am i misunderstanding your intention with that statement?In post 361, davesaz wrote:
I don't see what's the difference in these different ways to say the same thing. They all boil down to "I think x but if I'm wrong then it's Y". Maybe it's the engineer/programmer thing?In post 348, Abnegation wrote:
something does seem off with this post now that you mention it. the "if i had to pick one of my townleans to be a scumlean" phrasing is a bit weird. i know i've thought, "if i'm wrong on one of my townreads it's X," and, "i'm least confident in X being town," but this reads differently from that. the trying to make a townlean into a scumlean feels artificial.
i don't think this is enough to warrant a vote fwiw.Showlowercase alt of alianna.
i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.
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i claim innocent child.Showlowercase alt of alianna.
i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.
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i'm going to read some isos tonight and then i'll vote.In post 425, camelCasedSnivy wrote: abnegation, you willing to take a stance?Showlowercase alt of alianna.
i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.
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something unexpected came up -v/la until saturday.Showlowercase alt of alianna.
i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.
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i am basically back from v/la, but i don't have time to read this game tonight, should hopefully be able to get to it tomorrow.Showlowercase alt of alianna.
i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.
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oh god, so many new pages. let's see.Showlowercase alt of alianna.
i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.
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i'll have to do a bit more reading into the leek votes but i could maybe go back there.Showlowercase alt of alianna.
i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.
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In post 454, Ame wrote:
Sure there is - PRs often play like mafia. It's difficult to solve the game when you have townies playing like mafs. i like to just remove that variable because i think my solving abilities when everything is out on the table outweigh the potential benefit of the prsIn post 451, KittyTacky wrote: I don't think there's any track if town motivation in wanting a mass claim so early.
but like also i know no one would ever actually be down for that, so it's mostly in jest
i think i will die laughing if ame flips red. if these are scum posts, this is the most blatant openwolfing i have ever seen and i respect it. but it reads town lol.In post 578, Ame wrote:
Yes because a random lock town read that doesn't make sense could mean they're masons (those are in normal games? I don't know where to find the list). Hence why the mass claim thing popped up in my mind at the time. I like to remove all of these pesky variables that make people act scummy when they aren't.In post 574, Doctor Drew wrote:
You wouldn't lim someone because someone else on D1, who admittedly has said they aren't great on D1, has lock towned them?In post 565, Ame wrote: Drew/Daves/cCS/nono are still the flips I want to see. I wouldn't go Daves today because of Kitty locktowning him. nono being a bugspray archetype changes things -- from scummy to eternal coin flip. I'm not sure there's a reliable way to read them. cCS is the most "this is a hit" feel.
You certainly puzzle me to no end, how am I supposed to think that you are anything but scum?Showlowercase alt of alianna.
i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.
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surely no scumbucket is ballsy enough to try that...right?In post 720, Abnegation wrote:In post 454, Ame wrote:
Sure there is - PRs often play like mafia. It's difficult to solve the game when you have townies playing like mafs. i like to just remove that variable because i think my solving abilities when everything is out on the table outweigh the potential benefit of the prsIn post 451, KittyTacky wrote: I don't think there's any track if town motivation in wanting a mass claim so early.
but like also i know no one would ever actually be down for that, so it's mostly in jest
i think i will die laughing if ame flips red. if these are scum posts, this is the most blatant openwolfing i have ever seen and i respect it. but it reads town lol.In post 578, Ame wrote:
Yes because a random lock town read that doesn't make sense could mean they're masons (those are in normal games? I don't know where to find the list). Hence why the mass claim thing popped up in my mind at the time. I like to remove all of these pesky variables that make people act scummy when they aren't.In post 574, Doctor Drew wrote:
You wouldn't lim someone because someone else on D1, who admittedly has said they aren't great on D1, has lock towned them?In post 565, Ame wrote: Drew/Daves/cCS/nono are still the flips I want to see. I wouldn't go Daves today because of Kitty locktowning him. nono being a bugspray archetype changes things -- from scummy to eternal coin flip. I'm not sure there's a reliable way to read them. cCS is the most "this is a hit" feel.
You certainly puzzle me to no end, how am I supposed to think that you are anything but scum?Showlowercase alt of alianna.
i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.
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i really don't understand how that suggests i have tmi but whatever.In post 730, Ame wrote: I really like nono's 722. The questions to Tao and observation of Ab. I do think the quoted post from Ab is off and seems the most TMI of the players who have posted about my mass claim thing.
VOTE: AbnegationShowlowercase alt of alianna.
i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.
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sure, i don't mind going back. to clarify about my prior unvote, i wouldn't say i was townreading leek there, just felt good enough about them to leave them for the time being.In post 772, Flavor Leaf wrote: Yeah, we have one day.
Please come over to Leek. They've been doing nothing and letting Ame do all the dirty work for them because Ame got pocketed. Please break up the Ame-Leek pair, and we confirm who is correct with the Leek slot.
VOTE: szmarzleek
e-2.Showlowercase alt of alianna.
i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.
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VOTE: kittytackyShowlowercase alt of alianna.
i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.
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vt, and i've been informed that geraintm targeted me.Showlowercase alt of alianna.
i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.
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there's nothing i can really say to this regardless of alignment here. i derped and defended scum. it happens. i understand how it looks.In post 897, Ame wrote:In post 169, Abnegation wrote:
i don't think you ever mentioned townreading leek?In post 168, KittyTacky wrote: I think camel is town.
Abnegation is town, let's be honest it's fine if RVS votes stay until page 7.
Now that the leek thing is pointed out my tentative TR on him has crumbled. If I vote soon then I'm voting there.
Klaz also town imo.In post 170, Abnegation wrote: actually that might be a townslip.In post 175, Abnegation wrote:
i feel like i'm not explaining this very well but i can't think how to explain it better.In post 174, Abnegation wrote:it points towards kitty having a real read on leek that they just didn't post for whatever reason, as opposed to making up a townread "crumbling" when they'd never even mentioned one.
seems we have a cop guilty anyway, so if people feel that i need to be executed tomorrow i'm down to die. but for now, VOTE: nono.Showlowercase alt of alianna.
i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.
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only e-2 by my count.Showlowercase alt of alianna.
i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.
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just going to unvote so we don't cut massclaim short.
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by that post, i mean i got a message from the mod that said geraintm targeted me n2, meaning they have the loud modifier.Showlowercase alt of alianna.
i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.
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gera heal seems pretty likely.Showlowercase alt of alianna.
i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.
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why do you want to vote me over the person who is confscum to you?
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i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.
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In post 947, camelCasedSnivy wrote: i am a bit loose in the head
you're not, he actually did claim that.In post 828, Flavor Leaf wrote: Actually, I'll start the claiming today.
I'm Vanilla.
I am officially locking myself out of claiming, which for me, is garbo if I were ever scum, not that anyone is pushing me as scum here, I feel I'm pretty obv town.
Ame's just too tunnelfucked to see this game straight, and doesn't understand why it doesn't matter and can be beneficial to just powerfade and get through Day 1's.Showlowercase alt of alianna.
i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.
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does anyone object to a hammer?Showlowercase alt of alianna.
i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.
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i'm a cop too!
n1 roleblocked
n2 forgotShowlowercase alt of alianna.
i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.
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i did claim, i’m vanilla.In post 977, Flavor Leaf wrote: So Dave, Abnegation, and Drew, you're the last to not claim, so yeah, it's basically time.
Snivy is a Neighborizer who neighborized Hu Tao N1, me N2. I claimed Vanilla in there.
My Day 2 Twilight aged very well.Showlowercase alt of alianna.
i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.
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yeah, i don't believe a word of hu tao's today.
VOTE: hu tao
e-2.Showlowercase alt of alianna.
i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.
- abnegation manifesto-
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Abnegation she/herGoonshe/her
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 953
- Joined: December 9, 2022
- Pronoun: she/her
assuming we're right, we have two yeets left. that is less than i thought.
last scum is probably in drew/dave.
i do need to take another look at snivy though.Showlowercase alt of alianna.
i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.
- abnegation manifesto-
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Abnegation she/herGoonshe/her
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 953
- Joined: December 9, 2022
- Pronoun: she/her
why would anyone claim cop as miller anyway?Showlowercase alt of alianna.
i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.
- abnegation manifesto-
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Abnegation she/herGoon