Mini Normal 2310 | Day 7

[Ame]

Hiiiiiiiiiiiii!!!!

[Ame]

It's been a long time since I've played here. 14 day phases!

[Ame]

Alright I looked at some other games’ rules posts, I’m new to that particular thing, wasn’t a thing when I played here awhile ago.

Because it appears to be a thing here on site (I did see a couple that didn’t mention the multitasking whatsoever). That particular piece of setup spec makes more sense to me so gonna

UNVOTE: Abnegation

I think it would be weird for scum to make the particular comment that he did with the above in mind, so Ima sliiight lean town on abneg.


I doubt that we could rely on the absence of multitasking in the rules to tell us anything though.

Back on you my vote goes

VOTE: davesaz

This post is super scummy?

VOTE: Klazam

[Ame]

I agree something seems off about it like TMI but maybe I'm not understanding something and someone else can explain

what if abnegation is scum and looked to see if she could multitask in the first place

Also both of these seem like townie thoughts.

[Ame]

I can think of at least three ways for Flavor Leaf to be this way, one each town, scum, and NAI. The town and NAI ones shouldn't be discussed and can't be discussed respectively.
Reserved FL isn't something I see too often, though as I mentioned before it's been quite a while. If I had to guess I'd say it's the NAI version.

Hu and Klaz feel like they're solving, and townleans. If I had to pick one of them to be a scumlean it would be Hu but that's primarily driven by a feeling that voting is the main way of generating conflict to get reads from, which makes me biased against not voting.

I don't see the purpose for Abnegation to still be self voting. It's still the first 1/4 of day so being on the sidelines isn't urgent yet, but it isn't doing anything to advance the game and that's troubling.

OK why even mention the the town possibility shouldn't be discussed, it just brings attention to the fact that you think he's a PR anyway. I also don't think your would-be scumlean on Hu is genuine.

I think camel is town.

Abnegation is town, let's be honest it's fine if RVS votes stay until page 7.

Now that the leek thing is pointed out my tentative TR on him has crumbled. If I vote soon then I'm voting there.

Klaz also town imo.

Ab, Kitty isn't saying they posted a TR on Leek, he's saying that he had a tentative TR on him in his mind.

[Ame]

I'm caught up, woo! That was fast.

VOTE: Dave

[Ame]

Hu Tao
camelCasedSnivy
SzmarzLeek
Flavor Leaf
Abnegation

BlackStar
Doctor Drew
KittyTacky
Klazam

geraintm
Arko
davesaz

[Ame]

am I not too high there

I wouldn't put myself up there if I looked at my gameplay from the outside I guess

but the fact of giving such a list unprovoked at this stage is a bit towny I believe, scum wouldn't want to antagonize so many people this early, better to focus on 1, 2 people

I haven't gone back to fact check, but from Ab's post you seem to only have played two games prior to this, both as town? If that's the case, I don't think a newbiemaf would play with the ease of tone you have. I liked that manner of which you replied to Ab's case, acknowledging it to be true rather than react defensively. It indicates to me an objective point of view rather than a survival one.

[Ame]

Hu Tao
camelCasedSnivy
SzmarzLeek
Flavor Leaf
Abnegation

BlackStar
Doctor Drew
KittyTacky
Klazam

geraintm
Arko
davesaz

Am I 3rd most scummy to you?

No, you're the 3rd least towny. Everyone above you I have gotten some towny impression from or something or another. I haven't gotten one from you yet, but I don't think it necessarily makes you maf (same for Arko).

[Ame]

I like Klazam's case. It seems like the sort of thought process that stems from townynoia - like, the idea that the behavior of another player is a reaction to your own towny actions. Blackstar displays this in his case too. I'm not quite sold against cCS but the post-hoc addition of #264 above does ring me. Like the need to display a consistency in his voting progression. This sort of self-consciousness I think more comes from maf. Actually, I've convinced myself while writing this. The Klaz/Hu vote thing is such a stale reason to still be voting Klaz, especially after Klaz updated on his motivations behind the push and what he got from it. I actually think cCS is probably a hit.

VOTE: cCS

[Ame]

I also agree with Blackstar that Drew's "why do you assume I scum read you" is weird. Bruh, you just implied in several post that she's maf lol.

[Ame]

Alright I looked at some other games’ rules posts, I’m new to that particular thing, wasn’t a thing when I played here awhile ago.

Because it appears to be a thing here on site (I did see a couple that didn’t mention the multitasking whatsoever). That particular piece of setup spec makes more sense to me so gonna

UNVOTE: Abnegation

I think it would be weird for scum to make the particular comment that he did with the above in mind, so Ima sliiight lean town on abneg.


I doubt that we could rely on the absence of multitasking in the rules to tell us anything though.

Back on you my vote goes

VOTE: davesaz

This post is super scummy?

VOTE: Klazam

I like you already

Well I've completely reversed my view since, I hope you still like me!

[Ame]

let's look at CSS votes

you didn't do me :

(

[Ame]

I disagree with Gera being best of the three mentioned, but do agree that Kitty isn't a good option. I think nono is a great option.

[Ame]

I also agree with Blackstar that Drew's "why do you assume I scum read you" is weird. Bruh, you just implied in several post that she's maf lol.

Drew what's up with this??

[Ame]

I will say I kinda don't like the heat Dave is getting for that one post on Flavor. IIRC, and they even said as much, that is kinda how they post and I believe in years past I even thought it was scummy, seems pretty superficial tbh.

Which one?

[Ame]

Doctor Drew
Nono
camelCasedSnivy

I think are the wolves.

[Ame]

I like Nono's new posts.
KittyTacky said some things that resonated, in particular about how it's a fallacy that only scum care how they look. Not enough for a real townread, will need to see some evidence of trying to sort.
Geraintm took a poke or two but didn't really follow up that I can tell. I'd be willing to go there.

I'm not sure about Leek's motivation in asking about the list in the first place. It seems kinda weak to go after unproductive people. Not enough for a scumread, but definitely worth watching.

What do you like about nono's posts?

[Ame]

something does seem off with this post now that you mention it. the "if i had to pick one of my townleans to be a scumlean" phrasing is a bit weird. i know i've thought, "if i'm wrong on one of my townreads it's X," and, "i'm least confident in X being town," but this reads differently from that. the trying to make a townlean into a scumlean feels artificial.

I don't see what's the difference in these different ways to say the same thing. They all boil down to "I think x but if I'm wrong then it's Y". Maybe it's the engineer/programmer thing?

Do you know if you've used this phrasing before (as town)?

[Ame]

I also agree with Blackstar that Drew's "why do you assume I scum read you" is weird. Bruh, you just implied in several post that she's maf lol.

Drew what's up with this??

A vote, especially very early D1, doesn't always mean you are scum.

I have played a million games with her, and while I can't read her the best a little pressure is always good to start things

Honestly probably wouldn't have voted her, but who I repped into did so I said 'fuck it let's run with it'

Ok but you said several times that you were happy she finally rolled scum, so why wouldn't she think you thought she was scum?

[Ame]

I will say I kinda don't like the heat Dave is getting for that one post on Flavor. IIRC, and they even said as much, that is kinda how they post and I believe in years past I even thought it was scummy, seems pretty superficial tbh.

Which one?

On phone so trying not to search for it, but where they said Flavor could be town, scum, or his posting could just be NAI.

Pre Edit: Well there was some joking involved when I said that, but again......pressure(and i assumed she would get the joke).

He's not getting any heat for that? Hu called that out like 17 years ago.

[Ame]

Unless you mean my thing about it where he says he can't talk about one of the options, which just negates the idea behind not talking about it because it brings attention to it.

[Ame]

Doctor Drew
Nono
camelCasedSnivy

I think are the wolves.

Actually maybe Daves instead of Drew

[Ame]

Doctor Drew
Nono
camelCasedSnivy

I think are the wolves.

That's a spicy list. Drew I could easily see, but cCS and Nono have been starting to redeem themselves. The game needs some fireworks though so by all means please elaborate.
pedit: nice, things are waking up a bit, 2nd post in a row I've had pop up with new activity

I don't like the cCS is holding onto a stale read. He voted Klaz for X, Klaz's play around X has developed since then, but cCS hasn't updated his read around it. It reads to me more as someone who needs to elim someone more so than someone who is trying to solve.

There isn't anything good in Nono's posts so far. There's no reasoning behind their Hu push (that I can follow at least). But really it's just the eyes glazing over bit that pinged me because I found the game really easy to read and get into upon coming in, and I'm a

super

slow reader.

Also there's a bit of PoE because I think BlackStar, Hu Tao, Abnegation, KittyTacky, SzmarzLeek, Flavor Leaf, and Klazam are all town.

geraintm is neutral

You and drew are peculiar. I think just one in the two of you is scum though.

[Ame]

Can you break down why my interaction with her seems so bad to you?

That literally reeks of 'Drew being Drew'

Pre Edit: Lol Dave, and keeps sniping me as well

I don't think it's bad, just weird. It's like you forgot in the middle of your conversation that you were calling her scum, which actually might be townie thinking about it

[Ame]

Doctor Drew
Nono
camelCasedSnivy

I think are the wolves.

That's a spicy list. Drew I could easily see, but cCS and Nono have been starting to redeem themselves. The game needs some fireworks though so by all means please elaborate.
pedit: nice, things are waking up a bit, 2nd post in a row I've had pop up with new activity

I don't like the cCS is holding onto a stale read. He voted Klaz for X, Klaz's play around X has developed since then, but cCS hasn't updated his read around it. It reads to me more as someone who needs to elim someone more so than someone who is trying to solve.

There isn't anything good in Nono's posts so far. There's no reasoning behind their Hu push (that I can follow at least). But really it's just the eyes glazing over bit that pinged me because I found the game really easy to read and get into upon coming in, and I'm a

super

slow reader.

Also there's a bit of PoE because I think BlackStar, Hu Tao, Abnegation, KittyTacky, SzmarzLeek, Flavor Leaf, and Klazam are all town.

geraintm is neutral

You and drew are peculiar. I think just one in the two of you is scum though.

That is a very meaty town list this early in the game.

[Ame]

i have a bad tendency to hold on to early reads

you can use normal idea mafia as an example if you want

klazam hasnt done anything particularly towny either but maybe someone can sell me another wagon

What do you make of nono's posts so far

[Ame]

Suspicious post. I think its too early for that.

What is?

what slot was nono again

Anko

[Ame]

arko ok

arko didnt really do anything and nono is just voting hu tao

its weird that theyre really only focusing on hu tao and not acknowledging anyone else so nulltown

why is that nulltown?

[Ame]

arko ok

arko didnt really do anything and nono is just voting hu tao

its weird that theyre really only focusing on hu tao and not acknowledging anyone else so nulltown

why is that nulltown?

ope exactly what i said lmao

tunnels arent alignment indicative (unless some other piece influences it)

doesnt seem forced, seems the exact opposite: relaxed

what about it seems relaxed?

[Ame]

they dont care about sounding serious have you even read their posts lmao

I just don't see that as the opposite of forced is what I mean

[Ame]

VOTE: Klazam

[Ame]

Dave I am safe locktowning imo.

Still don't like leek on a quick reskim.

Why

[Ame]

Anyone down for a mass claim

[Ame]

I wish I had experience with her play

Theres two games in my sig!

[Ame]

Wait how come mine doesn’t show.

[Ame]

VOTE: Klazam

What’s the progression of thought here?

All this discussion on Nono (who I’m personally placing in the same bucket as Dave) then a vote for me.

Also you have a shockingly massive town list here.

You disappeared. Why are you on the sidelines?

[Ame]

Doctor Drew
Nono
camelCasedSnivy

I think are the wolves.

That's a spicy list. Drew I could easily see, but cCS and Nono have been starting to redeem themselves. The game needs some fireworks though so by all means please elaborate.
pedit: nice, things are waking up a bit, 2nd post in a row I've had pop up with new activity

I don't like the cCS is holding onto a stale read. He voted Klaz for X, Klaz's play around X has developed since then, but cCS hasn't updated his read around it. It reads to me more as someone who needs to elim someone more so than someone who is trying to solve.

There isn't anything good in Nono's posts so far. There's no reasoning behind their Hu push (that I can follow at least). But really it's just the eyes glazing over bit that pinged me because I found the game really easy to read and get into upon coming in, and I'm a

super

slow reader.

Also there's a bit of PoE because I think BlackStar, Hu Tao, Abnegation, KittyTacky, SzmarzLeek, Flavor Leaf, and Klazam are all town.

geraintm is neutral

You and drew are peculiar. I think just one in the two of you is scum though.

not followable reasoning =/= scummy,, not liking something =/=scum

reading on ability, charisma,, it’s shallow
bad? yes,, genuine? believe it (unfortunately)

not gonna conform to the standard, gonna play my way,, engage if you have problem, will try my best to elaborate but don’t say I didn’t warn you /shrug

happy to engage)

Are you bug spray?

[Ame]

Done!

[Ame]

I think I had like 10 or so, on moba now but can check in a bit

[Ame]

Dave I am safe locktowning imo.

Still don't like leek on a quick reskim.

How are you locking Dave as town? I’m the most paranoid of that slot.

Low post count but most of their posts seem like they're actually trying to solve the game.

I think low post count maf would mostly make irrelevant posts.

None of their posts seem like they are trying to solve the game to me other than their avatar

also even so how is that worth a lock town

[Ame]

I don't think there's any track if town motivation in wanting a mass claim so early.

Sure there is - PRs often play like mafia. It's difficult to solve the game when you have townies playing like mafs. i like to just remove that variable because i think my solving abilities when everything is out on the table outweigh the potential benefit of the prs

but like also i know no one would ever actually be down for that, so it's mostly in jest

[Ame]

I think I had like 10 or so, on moba now but can check in a bit

ok so like 20 actually and then some more on another account

[Ame]

I don't think there's any track if town motivation in wanting a mass claim so early.

Sure there is - PRs often play like mafia. It's difficult to solve the game when you have townies playing like mafs. i like to just remove that variable because i think my solving abilities when everything is out on the table outweigh the potential benefit of the prs

but like also i know no one would ever actually be down for that, so it's mostly in jest

So your solution is to gift mafia who the town PR's are?

gives em a fighting chance

[Ame]

but like do you really think anyone would actually agree with me? the most i could see is someone like flavor leaf but town as a whole never agrees

[Ame]

but like do you really think anyone would actually agree with me? the most i could see is someone like flavor leaf but town as a whole never agrees

Listen, I get jokey shit posting......that is a bulk of my game.

But you have kinda positioned this as being serious until called out on it.

where?

[Ame]

VOTE: cCS

[Ame]

You can go me to 3-3 it up

[Ame]

fuck it this wagon is going nowhere

UNVOTE:

VOTE: BlackStar

Klazam (2): Hu Tao, Ame
camelCasedSnivy (2): davesaz, Klazam
Ame (2): geraintm, Doctor Drew
Flavor Leaf (1): Flavor Leaf
SzmarzLeek (1): KittyTacky
Kitty Tacky (1): SzmarzLeek
Doctor Drew (1): Blackstar
Hu Tao (1): Nono
BlackStar (1): camelCasedSnivy

Not voting (1): Abnegation

i dont like this VC but since ame literally just voted me i cant bring any wagon but myself to 3 so

This is so suss. There’s a 77.52% chance cCS is a maf

[Ame]

VOTE: Klazam

There is none, I just noticed you had gone quiet and wanted to poke you. I still think wolves are within cCS, nono, dave, ger, and drew. I probably hold off on Dave based on kitty’s “lock town”

What’s the progression of thought here?

All this discussion on Nono (who I’m personally placing in the same bucket as Dave) then a vote for me.

Also you have a shockingly massive town list here.

You disappeared. Why are you on the sidelines?

I have a life, and I’m not a hyperposter like you. A few solid posts a day is good by me.

I wanna note that you still haven’t answered my question- where’s your progression from a town read to a naked vote of your town read, ignoring these you had been discussing as scum completely.

[Ame]

the blackstar vote was the second person on nono's list, the first being hu tao. i decided at worst it would be a pressure vote which is still good

It’s more how self-conscious you are with your votes. Like in this post, it’s so “justified”. It’s the same thing I was feeling with how you were treating your Kaz vote. Like you have to make sure you have justification of your votes. You’re not looking for mags you’re looking for where you can vote.

[Ame]

VOTE: Klazam

There is none, I just noticed you had gone quiet and wanted to poke you. I still think wolves are within cCS, nono, dave, ger, and drew. I probably hold off on Dave based on kitty’s “lock town”

What’s the progression of thought here?

All this discussion on Nono (who I’m personally placing in the same bucket as Dave) then a vote for me.

Also you have a shockingly massive town list here.

You disappeared. Why are you on the sidelines?

I have a life, and I’m not a hyperposter like you. A few solid posts a day is good by me.

I wanna note that you still haven’t answered my question- where’s your progression from a town read to a naked vote of your town read, ignoring these you had been discussing as scum completely.

what the - where the heck did my response go

[Ame]

You’re not looking for mags you’re looking for where you can vote.

if you mean scum then I've already found one

though i can see where that viewpoint comes from

the start of the day however, barely has any info, so jumping on wagons in a situation like this is kinda needed

yes mafs*

[Ame]

VOTE: Klazam

There is none, I just noticed you had gone quiet and wanted to poke you. I still think wolves are within cCS, nono, dave, ger, and drew. I probably hold off on Dave based on kitty’s “lock town”

What’s the progression of thought here?

All this discussion on Nono (who I’m personally placing in the same bucket as Dave) then a vote for me.

Also you have a shockingly massive town list here.

You disappeared. Why are you on the sidelines?

I have a life, and I’m not a hyperposter like you. A few solid posts a day is good by me.

I wanna note that you still haven’t answered my question- where’s your progression from a town read to a naked vote of your town read, ignoring these you had been discussing as scum completely.

what the - where the heck did my response go

I’m dying to know what you said lol

You disappeared and I wanted to poke you a bit

[Ame]

something unexpected came up -

v/la until saturday.

take care <3, I hope everything is ok

[Ame]

You’re not looking for mags you’re looking for where you can vote.

if you mean scum then I've already found one

though i can see where that viewpoint comes from

the start of the day however, barely has any info, so jumping on wagons in a situation like this is kinda needed

Who is it that you found, Klaz? You're saying you moved to Blackstar for info - did you expect for him to react to a naked vote? Where's the meat my man

[Ame]

that mass claim attempt was so bad im calling it town

like, i dont think mafia would actually try to explain that mass claiming is a good idea knowing full well it isnt going to do shit

thanks for reminding me

VOTE: Ame

i dont really like their town list is all

i could unvote her but i dont know who else to vote

Huh? I thought you voted me because you wanted a 3, but now you're saying there's an actual reason? You just called me town on the page before!

[Ame]

that mass claim attempt was so bad im calling it town

like, i dont think mafia would actually try to explain that mass claiming is a good idea knowing full well it isnt going to do shit

thanks for reminding me

VOTE: Ame

i dont really like their town list is all

i could unvote her but i dont know who else to vote

Huh? I thought you voted me because you wanted a 3, but now you're saying there's an actual reason? You just called me town on the page before!

oh fuck i thought that was nono

also fwiw i still dont like the town list but i think what happened on that page is a good enough indication

what don't you like about it?

[Ame]

that mass claim attempt was so bad im calling it town

like, i dont think mafia would actually try to explain that mass claiming is a good idea knowing full well it isnt going to do shit

thanks for reminding me

VOTE: Ame

i dont really like their town list is all

i could unvote her but i dont know who else to vote

Huh? I thought you voted me because you wanted a 3, but now you're saying there's an actual reason? You just called me town on the page before!

oh fuck i thought that was nono

also fwiw i still dont like the town list but i think what happened on that page is a good enough indication

what don't you like about it?

@cCS

[Ame]

VOTE: Leek

Leaf explain yourself

I think you’re scummy and TMI’ing AME.

I also started to town read Drew, so i think positioning wise, you’re scummy too

nah they're just astute

[Ame]

Drew/Daves/cCS/nono are still the flips I want to see. I wouldn't go Daves today because of Kitty locktowning him. nono being a bugspray archetype changes things -- from scummy to eternal coin flip. I'm not sure there's a reliable way to read them. cCS is the most "this is a hit" feel.

[Ame]

Drew/Daves/cCS/nono are still the flips I want to see. I wouldn't go Daves today because of Kitty locktowning him. nono being a bugspray archetype changes things -- from scummy to eternal coin flip. I'm not sure there's a reliable way to read them. cCS is the most "this is a hit" feel.

You wouldn't lim someone because someone else on D1, who admittedly has said they aren't great on D1, has lock towned them?

You certainly puzzle me to no end, how am I supposed to think that you are anything but scum?

Yes because a random lock town read that doesn't make sense could mean they're masons (those are in normal games? I don't know where to find the list). Hence why the mass claim thing popped up in my mind at the time. I like to remove all of these pesky variables that make people act scummy when they aren't.

[Ame]

Drew/Daves/cCS/nono are still the flips I want to see. I wouldn't go Daves today because of Kitty locktowning him. nono being a bugspray archetype changes things -- from scummy to eternal coin flip. I'm not sure there's a reliable way to read them. cCS is the most "this is a hit" feel.

Uh. I'd rather nono out of those 3 if you're removing Dave. I'm flipping back and forth with ccs

cCS is almost a guaranteed hit (up from 77 to 79%). I'll vote with you though.

[Ame]

Drew/Daves/cCS/nono are still the flips I want to see. I wouldn't go Daves today because of Kitty locktowning him. nono being a bugspray archetype changes things -- from scummy to eternal coin flip. I'm not sure there's a reliable way to read them. cCS is the most "this is a hit" feel.

You wouldn't lim someone because someone else on D1, who admittedly has said they aren't great on D1, has lock towned them?

You certainly puzzle me to no end, how am I supposed to think that you are anything but scum?

Yes because a random lock town read that doesn't make sense could mean they're masons (those are in normal games? I don't know where to find the list). Hence why the mass claim thing popped up in my mind at the time. I like to remove all of these pesky variables that make people act scummy when they aren't.

What in the actual fuck is this?

I have to ask what you other account is here.

This is my main on this forum, my other one only has a few games, but it's "Madoka".

[Ame]

Leaf today: Leek has TMI on Ame. Leek flips town.
Leaf tomorrow: Ame had TMI on leek.
Leek and Ame are just astute

[Ame]

For the record FL, these are some of the reasons why Leek is town. I'm a microtell reader so it's hard to put into words sometimes -- it's little ways that people say things

I noticed that too and it's not intentional.

Snipped from the larger post of leek being objective about his play. This line in particular is where I think the center of my town read on the post comes from. It's just not the sort of phrasing I think scum would naturally have in that response. The "I noticed it too". Maf have a disinclination toward expressing this level of self-awareness because self-awareness is an aspect of being informed that they are trying to conceal throughout the game. Leek is open and lacks that disinclination.

I dislike that you dislike that

Snipped from a response to daves. Assertive and not needed from a maf pov. He could just let daves push that (and if leek is maf with ger, I don't think he'd so overtly defend him at this stage).

also, regarding page 13

there we could witness a discussion between two people, Drew and Leaf

once I played in a game where the scumpair got an idea that during d1 they'll hold a big, whole page conversation, not really a meaningful exchange, just enough appear quite active and to "not hurt reach other" too much

I got such vibes from page 13

a matter to observe

especially since I don't really know what conclusions arised from that Drew/Leaf discussion, seemed like a banter and nobody even commented on it

I got the same vibe. Only I felt it was more like Drew trying to pocket Leaf by pretending to "thinking about his motivations" and whatnot, but I totally see what Leek is saying and think it's unlikely maf would have thought of this.

I won't let any lim on Ame happen today anyway

Too blatant to be a pocket attempt. Maf I think would just lightly defend me yet allow attention to stay on. Look good while letting other do the dirty work.

[Ame]

But if anything, Ame’s shown they don’t care to work with the town, they care to get their way.

I'm not sure where you got this impression considering I'm willing to vote with Hu. Is there a reason you don't want cCS to die?

[Ame]

This convinced me even more. Thanks, Ame.

I'm always at your service

[Ame]

What/who is enchant?

[Ame]

Sometimes Enchant is just scum.

Is it like if it looks like a duck?

[Ame]

Sleeping now, but I'll tryToCase Snivy later

[Ame]

VOTE: Nono

[Ame]

Wow I keep getting to the end of a page, posting and seeing there’s another page

[Ame]

Actually

VOTE: Flavor Leaf

[Ame]

FlavorLeaf's bold push on me is probably towny, you have to determine yourself guys if he's such a good scum that he pushes townies so openly

He is and he would. You’re arguable the player has been the most analytical/pushing the game forward today. FL is a power wolf and I can see him taking the opportunity to take you out today.

[Ame]

Drew, vote for FL

[Ame]

Hu are you open to Gera?

[Ame]

VOTE: Drew

[Ame]

I personally don’t think it’s in Ame’s scum range to fake in a pocket in a ScumAme to townLeek? But idk then that well, and idk if the rewards are great enough. Idk.

You're so condescending T o T

Part of me is like maybe it's good if you think I'm a helpless idiot so I could use it if I ever roll scum against you, but the other part is like omg

[Ame]

Drew, vote for FL

Why are you trying to get me to vote Flavor?

Like why me?

I have my theories but would like to here from you first.

I wanted to see the extent of my Jedi abilities

[Ame]

im not sure if gera read changed on me but i still dont like their posts

its like hes trying to do stuff without doing stuff?

I am not trying to do stuff. It is day 1

If everyone played like this, how would we ever move beyond day 1

[Ame]

Caught up but whole leek/Ame thing is confusing. I’ll need to reread when I’m sane.

Kitty’s putting off things yet again is zzzz

It’s kind of funny that you’re annoyed at Kitty putting things off but you’re doing the same thing lol

Good catch. Klazam is suspicious

Lmafo I mentioned I’d be busy this weekend- my birthday weekend

Happy birthday!

[Ame]

VOTE: Drew

Speaking of pocketing.....

.....could this be a pocketing attempt??

Wondering why someone is moving their vote nonstop is a pocketing attempt?

I wanted to see how I felt after voting them. Like how sometimes you can feel in your tums when someone is going to flip red and green right before the flip

[Ame]

BlackStar
KittyTacky
Klazam
SzmarzLeek

Hu Tao
nono

geraintm

davesaz
Doctor Drew

camelCasedSnivy
Flavor Leaf
Abnegation

[Ame]

I really like nono's 722. The questions to Tao and observation of Ab. I do think the quoted post from Ab is off and seems the most TMI of the players who have posted about my mass claim thing.

VOTE: Abnegation

[Ame]

im not sure if gera read changed on me but i still dont like their posts

its like hes trying to do stuff without doing stuff?

I am not trying to do stuff. It is day 1

If everyone played like this, how would we ever move beyond day 1

That is a very good question

So, not to toot my own horn, but I'm very good at Day 1. Like I surprisingly take out mafs more often than not. But I get worse as the game progresses due to information overload. So how about you and I strike a little dealeo and you proxy your vote to me today and in exchange, I'll give you mine later on, a day of your choosing sometime before xylo

[Ame]

VOTE: camel

It seems like you’ve been making posts to test the waters about how everyone feels about certain people and then just moving your vote to wherever everyone else goes

Are you talking to me? Cause I feel like I've been pretty independent. Regardless ape together strong etc etc

[Ame]

BlackStar
KittyTacky
Klazam
SzmarzLeek

Hu Tao
nono

geraintm

davesaz
Doctor Drew

camelCasedSnivy
Flavor Leaf
Abnegation

You went from saying you'd sheep me but don't have me as your highest Town read? That's suspect. Why not say you'd be voting with Black Star then? Also I don't get the kitty or klazam read at all

You were my strongest tr when I said that, you aren’t now. Simple.

[Ame]

Klazam - the post where he was annoyed that I’m town
Kitty - the post where he said “that would make me even more suspicious”

[Ame]

What changed? Because your posts don't really indicate any of that

My view of nono and your post about why you weren’t posting.

[Ame]

What changed? Because your posts don't really indicate any of that

My view of nono and your post about why you weren’t posting.

Can you tell me what your view of nono is? Because I don't see any genuine solving there. And if you don't buy my reason for not posting, then that would mean you think I'm lying. Lying = scum. So why not have me lower?

I don’t not buy it. Everything is probabilities. You’re still below rand wolf to me. Nono’s post I linked above seems genuine and I read AB’s post the same way. Their questions to you were totally fair imo.

[Ame]

Oh Flavor Leaf

[Ame]

Hu, Gera: Ab is a maf. If you want to lim maf today vote with me

[Ame]

Hu, Gera: Ame is a maf. If you want to lim maf today vote for me

Helping you out here and fixing your post for you Ame

Hehe. You should vote Ab with me. Think about it, why is FL suddenly championing “a smooth game”. When has FL ever wanted a “smooth game”? Just earlier this phase he was talking about how no one was doing anything and peeps should make things spicy. It’s very likely at least two of my bottom 3 are mafs, he is one of them, and he is threatened.

[Ame]

Hu, Gera: Ame is a maf. If you want to lim maf today vote for me

Helping you out here and fixing your post for you Ame

Hehe. You should vote Ab with me. Think about it, why is FL suddenly championing “a smooth game”. When has FL ever wanted a “smooth game”? Just earlier this phase he was talking about how no one was doing anything and peeps should make things spicy. It’s very likely at least two of my bottom 3 are mafs, he is one of them, and he is threatened.

i want smooth games every game, what you mean.

i dont call it smooth games, but spicy and smooth is my cup of tea.

i'm also barely paying attention to this game the past few days, so if you think i feel threatened, idk what to tell ya

Then let me do my thing. You’re not paying attention anyway

[Ame]

VOTE: kitty

L-1

[Ame]

You do know I am coming after Ame no matter what? Even if I decide to vote Leek here.

I have been down this 'such obvscum D1' path before.....especially as of late.

I don't get how you are allergic to voting her, Flavor.

This always scum

[Ame]

Also I like cCS for town now

[Ame]

i think Mass claim tomorrow.

Nah. I think we’ve had enough of your scum siding tbh

[Ame]

Hu V
Klaz V
Gera V
Nono V
Ame V
Snivy V

Dave N
FL NLW or VSS
AB NLW
Drew W

Mafs are in those 4. We lim Drew tomorrow and go from there.

[Ame]

Hu V
Klaz V
Gera V
Nono V
Ame V
Snivy V

Dave N
FL NLW or VSS
AB NLW
Drew W

Mafs are in those 4. We lim Drew tomorrow and go from there.

uh what

What are you asking?

[Ame]

Village
Wolf
Neutral
Lean
Scum Siding

[Ame]

If Kitty is town, Hu Tao is always scum based on ignoring strongman possibility.

But i think Kitty just is scum?

Ain't no way scum would strong arm kitty instead of just killing them if they saw the doctor soft if they were town.

Strongarm just powers through protections, they don’t target the protector.

[Ame]

I don't think there's any track if town motivation in wanting a mass claim so early.

lol they set up a tracker crumb too

[Ame]

VOTE: Abnegation

[Ame]

I think camel is town.

Abnegation is town, let's be honest it's fine if RVS votes stay until page 7.

Now that the leek thing is pointed out my tentative TR on him has crumbled. If I vote soon then I'm voting there.

Klaz also town imo.

i don't think you ever mentioned townreading leek?

actually that might be a townslip.

actually that might be a townslip.

How?

it points towards kitty having a real read on leek that they just didn't post for whatever reason, as opposed to making up a townread "crumbling" when they'd never even mentioned one.

i feel like i'm not explaining this very well but i can't think how to explain it better.

[Ame]

Would appreciate if we do this quickly. Get to l-1, hammer, etc.

[Ame]

VOTE: Nono

[Ame]

Not doing mass claim. Just yeet so we can move the game along.

[Ame]

I want people to read this game from here: at least just Day 2 of it where I linked. You can do so over night, it's not that long.

viewtopic.php?p=13760952#p13760952

I had multiple townies who were anti-me at the time.

Also, IF I FOR SOME REASON DIE TONIGHT....

FADE HU TAO.

I cannot make this any clearer, and it'll be more obvious if I die.

Lol, Hu Tao was scum that game as well.

I strangely am feeling a bit better about Ame, I think you said if Flavor, but this over aggressiveness and tunneling can be hard to to fake......and hey I have been tunneling her so I can get the emotions sh is displaying.

I don’t understand the sudden change of heart if you’re not a cop

[Ame]

Not doing mass claim. Just yeet so we can move the game along.

why you in a rush to deny communication? nono's going sooner rather than later. give people some time to check in, make sure we see how everyone posts.

we're in an amazing spot this game, a few extra hours wont hurt

I only play one game at a time. The outcome of this one is set so id like to speed run onto the next. A me problem though. Take y’all’s time if you need.

@scum if you want to help me out, take me out tonight. I’m the real cop hu is a liar

Spoiler: for towny eyes only

just joshing

[Ame]

nah

hard claim I’m cop
hu tao is scum
Investigated abneg last night, was blocked

liar I’m real cop

[Ame]

don’t know if I’m hammered but w/eVOTE: abneg

why do you want to vote me over the person who is confscum to you?

speed the game up, we hit this, we’re done)
you blocked me, you’ll block me again anyway kek

she was tracked, didn’t go anywhere

[Ame]

Ok now that we have hammer I really am the cop, Drew N1 , nothing last night, odd nights only

[Ame]

I’m guessing Hu game claimed and got lucky Nono fell for it

[Ame]

fake* not game

[Ame]

Oh flavor let the cat out of the bag hehe

[Ame]

Hoods are actually mad powerful if the people in them can find each other