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I don’t understand “scum multitasking” part here either, but something in this is setting off alarm bells in my lizard brain.In post 8, Abnegation wrote: i think i've played with a few of you.
observation: the presence or absence of scum multitasking is not noted anywhere in the original modposts. i wonder if that means we're up against all goons?
VOTE: abnegation-
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Alright I looked at some other games’ rules posts, I’m new to that particular thing, wasn’t a thing when I played here awhile ago.
Because it appears to be a thing here on site (I did see a couple that didn’t mention the multitasking whatsoever). That particular piece of setup spec makes more sense to me so gonna
UNVOTE: Abnegation
I think it would be weird for scum to make the particular comment that he did with the above in mind, so Ima sliiight lean town on abneg.
I doubt that we could rely on the absence of multitasking in the rules to tell us anything though.
Back on you my vote goes
VOTE: davesaz-
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Making a public post on it as scum, with daytalk? I’m not so sure about thatIn post 22, Hu Tao wrote:
That was my original thoughtIn post 19, camelCasedSnivy wrote: what if abnegation is scum and looked to see if she could multitask in the first place-
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The fuck you doing.In post 58, Abnegation wrote:
let's add some more then!In post 56, Doctor Drew wrote: I know I should unvote, but I like some pressure on Anaconda.
VOTE: abnegation
In post 53, Hu Tao wrote:
Why do I need to vote? It's 2 or 3 pages in, of course I'm trying to find things I find suspicious.davesaz wrote:
You've said a couple things are suspicious. What will be your threshold for a vote?In post 42, Hu Tao wrote:
Suspicious post. I think it's too early for thatIn post 32, camelCasedSnivy wrote: most likely klazam is either town or paired with abnegation
I actually am agreeing with Dave here- your vote is your most powerful tool. Poking at things verbally with no action behind it makes seems like you’re trying to play it safe.
Here’s how to use your vote.
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Know what, I can get behind this. Been feeling the same, and seeing that cCS been going for low hanging fruit.In post 83, davesaz wrote: Happy to see the pace isn't too bad.
Not as happy to see a low s/n ratio.
VOTE: camelCasedSnivy
VOTE: camelCasedSnivy
Still want hu tao to actually take a stance. If you had to vote someone, who would you vote and why?-
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I like Hu Tao’s response to my pressure.
cCS, I like less.
I know it’s literally been a day since we started but I’m surprised people are not reacting to abnegation’s self vote.
That’s my thoughts right now. See y’all later tonight or tomorrow-
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Hah alright.
Hu tao - I dropped that angle because i felt your approach (kinda aggressively refusing to vote) indicated that its a personality thing not a scum thing.
Im still cool with my vote where it is.
RE: self voting, its usually more scummy than not, reads to me as an appeal to emotion.
I have no idea how to read flavor leaf here
Dave im on the fence about.-
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I have some thoughts on but I wanna see the response from kitty regarding the cameltown read firstIn post 172, Hu Tao wrote:
Why is klaz and camel town?In post 168, KittyTacky wrote: I think camel is town.
Abnegation is town, let's be honest it's fine if RVS votes stay until page 7.
Now that the leek thing is pointed out my tentative TR on him has crumbled. If I vote soon then I'm voting there.
Klaz also town imo.
Regarding self vote too scummy to be scum- which is perfect reason to self vote, yeah? It’s an appeal to emotion. I’m not interested in pursuring abneg right now, though.-
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Strangely I think flavor is town now.
Liking the replacement, I see the Dave stuff too, is why I’m on fence there.
Can you elaborate on “desperate to vote anyone”? Talking about camel or yourself?In post 239, geraintm wrote: Yeah, dislike the camel slot having read back.
Desperate to vote anyone-
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Thanks Kitty and gera.
Okay here's the thoughts I had -
It is super interesting that some has said that camel seemed "towny relaxed" (this specifically)
I've been feeling the opposite. Here's the progression of some stuff that happened as i see it:In post 194, SzmarzLeek wrote: eg votes on camel are weird for me, because he seems to have a towny chill and not giving a damn vibe judging their entrance.
camel starts off with a townread regarding me -
In post 32, camelCasedSnivy wrote: most likely klazam is either town or paired with abnegation
I vote cCS here, agreeing with dave on the signal to noise ratio & feeling that cCS has been pushing the "easy stuff"
In post 88, Klazam wrote:
Know what, I can get behind this. Been feeling the same, and seeing that cCS been going for low hanging fruit.In post 83, davesaz wrote: Happy to see the pace isn't too bad.
Not as happy to see a low s/n ratio.
VOTE: camelCasedSnivy
VOTE: camelCasedSnivy
Still want hu tao to actually take a stance. If you had to vote someone, who would you vote and why?
Immediately afterwards, cCS seems to get upset, retracts his townread on me, and then after dave interacts with camel a bit more, he votes me, accusing me of the same thing, basically.
In post 89, camelCasedSnivy wrote: didnt know wanting to start a wagon early was considered targetting low hanging fruitIn post 106, camelCasedSnivy wrote: i take back my townread on klazam i guess it was too early for thatIn post 107, camelCasedSnivy wrote: mainly because i dont really like their talk about votesIn post 124, camelCasedSnivy wrote:
i get what he is saying but he seems to be making something big out of it as if he is even voting hu tao in the first place lmaoIn post 108, davesaz wrote: What would you suggest using to generate reads, if not votes and talk about votes or the lack thereof?
also its an easy thing to push someone for and i dont like thatIn post 125, camelCasedSnivy wrote: and you guys say that I target low hanging fruit smh
VOTE: Klazam
And this is why my vote is still ccs for today - This level of reactiveness and defensively attacking me for my vote on him reads to me the exact opposite of "town relaxed"
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Just gonna point out meta on me is likely to be useless, this is my first game on site after like 6 years if not more. You’re welcome to look and compare though.In post 287, SzmarzLeek wrote:
this guy overall feels stiffIn post 88, Klazam wrote:
Know what, I can get behind this. Been feeling the same, and seeing that cCS been going for low hanging fruit.In post 83, davesaz wrote: Happy to see the pace isn't too bad.
Not as happy to see a low s/n ratio.
VOTE: camelCasedSnivy
VOTE: camelCasedSnivy
Still want hu tao to actually take a stance. If you had to vote someone, who would you vote and why?
his posts are100%"let's do stuff for the town" - isn't it that too much?
it's like "I have a goal to be an useful towny with my every post, heck, with my every sentence"
I mean moving the game forward is generally a good thing, but this guy plays like he has no chill, isn't coming to this game relaxed, as townies are more likely to be, strikes me as an exaggerated image of a perfect townie
like Hu Tao has been doing similiar thing, but actually joked from time to time, not playing like a machine
can someone confirm/deny such vibes or give a metaread on Klazam?
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This is ringing a little bell in my brain. Why do you care how you look?In post 324, KittyTacky wrote: Stay silent? It'd make me look even worse.-
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What’s the progression of thought here?
All this discussion on Nono (who I’m personally placing in the same bucket as Dave) then a vote for me.
Also you have a shockingly massive town list here.-
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How are you locking Dave as town? I’m the most paranoid of that slot.In post 426, KittyTacky wrote: Dave I am safe locktowning imo.
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I have a life, and I’m not a hyperposter like you. A few solid posts a day is good by me.In post 443, Ame wrote:
You disappeared. Why are you on the sidelines?In post 418, Klazam wrote:
What’s the progression of thought here?
All this discussion on Nono (who I’m personally placing in the same bucket as Dave) then a vote for me.
Also you have a shockingly massive town list here.
I wanna note that you still haven’t answered my question- where’s your progression from a town read to a naked vote of your town read, ignoring these you had been discussing as scum completely.
Gotta say, though, this behavior lately + the mass claim proposal (which was NOT clearly made in jest) at this point just feels like stupid play, not scum play. You’re town and I hate it.
Current stance-
Still like my vote where it is, nothing has changed my mind.
I’m also fine with possibly voting Geraintm on the basis of not much involvement, and they still have their rvs vote on Ame, not having voted once lately, even with a scumread voiced on camel (post 239)
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Ah right, I knew I forgot someone, Kitty is in my pool of people I’d be fine voting today too. I know some has mentioned that they don’t think certain posts is scummy, I just feel that it is. And this post in particular just feels odd to me.In post 451, KittyTacky wrote: I don't think there's any track if town motivation in wanting a mass claim so early.-
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Your vote sounds like it’s a vote for bad play not for scummy play.
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I don’t like this as a reason to vote. Looks like just going for an easy mis elimIn post 485, geraintm wrote:It is bad play, and also I don't want to trust them later in the game if they come up with any more "good ideas"
Agreed.In post 489, SzmarzLeek wrote: Kitty's gamestyle
"X is town
Y is scum"
people askin: "Kitty, why though"
Kitty: "X feels solvy, Y doesn't feel solvy"
rinse repeat
Based on what? Looking through your posts, there’s no real references to blackstar. You only really had a scumread on abnegation, myself, and Dave throughout your posting. (And Ame also but that was reversed recentely). I find it interesting that you don’t really express your thoughts on other players very much throughout.
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I’m dying to know what you said lolIn post 510, Ame wrote:
what the - where the heck did my response goIn post 508, Ame wrote:In post 464, Klazam wrote:
I have a life, and I’m not a hyperposter like you. A few solid posts a day is good by me.In post 443, Ame wrote:
You disappeared. Why are you on the sidelines?In post 418, Klazam wrote:There is none, I just noticed you had gone quiet and wanted to poke you. I still think wolves are within cCS, nono, dave, ger, and drew. I probably hold off on Dave based on kitty’s “lock town”
What’s the progression of thought here?
All this discussion on Nono (who I’m personally placing in the same bucket as Dave) then a vote for me.
Also you have a shockingly massive town list here.
I wanna note that you still haven’t answered my question- where’s your progression from a town read to a naked vote of your town read, ignoring these you had been discussing as scum completely.-
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I’m trying to figure this out- you had a townread on Ame, then for some reason you switched Ame with nono in your head and voted for Ame on the basis of a large list of townreads that Ame posted, then you are now backtracking on your vote because you..meant to vote nono? And is still not liking ame’s townlist?
I’m not sure where you’re going with this- sounds like you’re trying to find a excuse for flipping your read on ame- which actually coincidentally is something that you did on me prior/post me voting you.-
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I’m actually surprised that you pick leek as your #1 here.In post 544, KittyTacky wrote:
If, gun to head, I had to choose someone to daykill NOW, yes it's probably you. But I'd rather wait a few more days.In post 501, SzmarzLeek wrote: if you could decide single-handedly, would you want me limmed right now?
Can you clarify then, what part did you think was Nono and how is that playing in your whole series of posts?In post 549, camelCasedSnivy wrote:
youre acting like ames at the top of my list or somethingIn post 548, Klazam wrote: And is still not liking ame’s townlist?
PEdit: ah. So you were townreading nono for the stupid suggestion, then now that you know it was ame, that townread changes from Nono to ame. Thanks for that clarification.-
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I like this post.In post 574, Doctor Drew wrote:
You wouldn't lim someone because someone else on D1, who admittedly has said they aren't great on D1, has lock towned them?In post 565, Ame wrote: Drew/Daves/cCS/nono are still the flips I want to see. I wouldn't go Daves today because of Kitty locktowning him. nono being a bugspray archetype changes things -- from scummy to eternal coin flip. I'm not sure there's a reliable way to read them. cCS is the most "this is a hit" feel.
You certainly puzzle me to no end, how am I supposed to think that you are anything but scum?
Will be rather busy for the next few days but will try to read and put any thoughts if I have any.-
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Caught up but whole leek/Ame thing is confusing. I’ll need to reread when I’m sane.
Kitty’s putting off things yet again is zzzz-
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Lmafo I mentioned I’d be busy this weekend- my birthday weekendIn post 710, Hu Tao wrote:
Good catch. Klazam is suspiciousIn post 702, BlackStar wrote:
It’s kind of funny that you’re annoyed at Kitty putting things off but you’re doing the same thing lolIn post 675, Klazam wrote: Caught up but whole leek/Ame thing is confusing. I’ll need to reread when I’m sane.
Kitty’s putting off things yet again is zzzz-
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Pretty upset that I fell asleep in middle of writing up my thoughts on leek.
Not sure how much votes needed to elim, consider my vote on kitty.
I’ll look through kitty’s posts and gera, but my impression of them is roughly the same I believe.-
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Why blackstar in particular?In post 796, KittyTacky wrote:
"doc" = this is a crumb. I'm doctor. I was on BlackStar. There must be a strongman or I was roleblocked.In post 767, KittyTacky wrote: I mean I have been dead wrong about such things but I doc not think I am here.-
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Same thoughts as dave there.
Im not sure how to feel about the amount of posts flavor is putting out, but i think it is understandable being in middle of limbo post hammer. I think we can absolutely see what happens with the night actions. Don't entirely trust Flavor.-
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Hu- Yeah, I was actually thinking that you might be claiming a cop guilty, so not suprised that scum caught on to that.
I think it's time for me to out what I am, so that you dont waste anything on me - I'm a Miller. Was keeping it under wraps in hopes of concealing the presence of a cop.
The person who mentioned that I was trying too hard to be the towniest town ever - spot on lol. Didnt want to risk a cop invesigation on me.
I dont understand that post.In post 899, Abnegation wrote: vt, and i've been informed that geraintm targeted me.
Anyway, lets go and win this.
VOTE: nono
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No, no votes.
I’m not trusting y’all, I need to know what’s going on first.-
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Okay. I want to hear from camel next.
Ugh.
There’s a lot of permutations for false accusations here, depending on the people in the neighbor grouping.
I want to know details.-
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Camel- can you confirm that it was you in the neighbor group- and what the fuck happened in the neighbor topic?-
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Hu Tao is the direction we’re taking today for sure.
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ccs - When exactly did Hu claim cop, and FL claim VT in the neighbor thread - was it before or after daystart? (Trying to figure out FL's alignment)
Does this mean you neighborized Gera on night 3?In post 987, camelCasedSnivy wrote: oh and gera can confirm
I'm feeling uber paranoid right now, and im not ready for day to end, because i want to get more discussion going on the last scum. Consider me the hammering vote here, but im holding off on that.
writing this down for myself
LIVING PLAYERS
- geraintm - Town (Loud Tracker)
- Klazam - Town (Miller)
- camelCasedSnivy - Town (Neighborizer)
- Abnegation - VT (Got tracked by Gera N2, no result)
- Flavor Leaf - VT
- Doctor Drew (aspectenicor) VT
- davesaz - Has not claimed or posted
- Hu Tao - Scum
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Im going to look at kitty and hu tao together in iso, see if i can spot anything off.
Who did Gera track N3? Im guessing CCS-
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People who know normals - what is the scope of this power that Kitty had - "You are informed that __________________________________."-
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Agreed.In post 1025, Flavor Leaf wrote: And we need to wait for Daves to get here and claim too, so lets not rush to end this day phase.
I want to talk with everyone still. we have plenty of time.
Writing post and looking at things in depth.
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As a preface. This is me writing out thoughts and what i see while i iso both Hu and Kitty together, to see what is being said about everyone. Sorry if this is unreadable. Skip to end to see my thoughts.
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Hu Tao + Abnegation feels unlikely given RVS interactions regarding scum multitasking. Lots of pressure towards Abnegation + egging others on. THEN post selfvote- Mentions that Ab's self vote probably is NAI. Questions Abnegation on calling Kitty's post a townslip. Mentions an suspicion on
HT+ ccs surface comment, not depth, then a light push on ccs, then a positive post about CCS. Questions CCS' town read on FL <-1 assocative for FL> then slight push on ccs. later shades ccs slightly. And again. finally slight defense while talking to ame. expresses being on fence of. then scumread. then while talking to kitty expresses suspicion of.
HT+ Dave informative reply, then dave pushes hu, who snaps back (Same way that hu snapped back at me) - Dave keeps on pushing Hu for not voting - same as me - and Hu seems to act the same way to both of us. Later mocks dave regarding FL. more shade on drew. and more shade
HT + Kitty Joking post. Asks kitty to clarify reads on me and camel. Tone feels similiar to first response to FL. then pushes Kitty due to no content. Tries to draw more content out of kitty. Bus vote on kitty. neutral defense of kitty... while voting kitty. more bussing
HT + FL - Pretty neutral question, then possible chainsaw on dave. expresses paranoia of fl, quickly taken back. Fl mentions a tendency to townread scumtao, then hu sets up a situation where that might not be true. calls #2 town. another neutral question regarding kitty
HT + Drew - Drew townreads Hu and Hu questions it - Hu mentions a concern about pocketing by Drew. Light shade on drew re flavor vote (Dont know what this is)
HT + Klaz - See dave comments. Votes me accusing me of backing off after people townread hu. a big klaz is scum. another one.
HT + Ame - agrees on the vote of me. friendly when Ame votes ccs, and encourages me as scum still. defends ame more. lots of discussion, actually. hard defense. calls #1 town. then tosses shade at ame when ame doesnt have hu as #1
HT + Nono - tone of mockery on Nono's vote of Hu Tao. Strong-self defense via discredit on nono. and more discrediting. calls nono scum. and again. more mockery.
HT + Leek - attacks leek for yellow read on HT - first instance of leek interaction, looks like.
HT + gera - neutralscum read expressed to ame
HT + BS - positive interaction
Kitty + Scorp(Ame) - banter. accuses ame of wifom regarding massclaim
Kitty + Klaz - calls me town Later comes up with "they feel solvy". Later on defends self
Kitty + Leek - Was a tr, which changed to a SR after a case was posted
Kitty + CCS - calls town but with less certainy tone Later comes up with "they feel solvy"
Kitty + Abnegation - Town and hard defends. <+1 assocative here>
Kitty + Leek - defends self. Votes leek off a quick reskim (opportunistic)
Kitty + Hu - Questions about reads. Claims Hu is hard to read.
Kitty + dave - "Safe locktown" on basis of being solvy - same thing said about me and camel, im inclined to put the three of us together
kitty + gera - defends on basis of playstyle
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FINALLY A READS LIST
Kitty-
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- KittyTacky
Town
- davesaz
- camelCasedSnivy
Lean Town
- Abnegation
- Flavor Leaf
- Klazam
- Doctor Drew
Null/Neutral
- geraintm
- Nono
- Hu Tao
- BlackStar
Lean Scum
- Ame
Scum
- SzmarzLeek
That was day 1. Jesus that took so long.
Thoughts at this point:
KITTY:
<Irrelevant>
- geraintm
- Klazam
- camelCasedSnivy
- Hu Tao
<Not paired>
- davesaz <Calls dave town being TOP of kitty's reads list, I doubt scum would be this brave, esp one who puts hu in the null bucket. also keeps calling solvy, same as me and camel.>
<Null>
- Flavor Leaf (Literally no interactions whatsover. Im 50-50 on this. Kitty only interacted with Hu when Hu directly asked question. BRB checking FL's iso for any direct questions - yup no direct questions, only negative pressure.)
- Doctor Drew (aspectenicor) (Also no interactions at all. Checking ISO. Looks a lot like FL's posts. I feel like being #4 (or #2) in leantown seems like the best place to put a buddy. gonna say im neutral)
<Paired>
- Abnegation (On basis of hard defense, but not placing abnegation in full town tier - seems like a hedge, could be afraid to seem too pro-abnegation in case of scum)
Hu Tao:
<Irrelevant>
- geraintm
- Klazam
- Hu Tao
<Not Paired>
- camelCasedSnivy (On basis of scum on scum neighborizing being kinda weird to do here)
- davesaz (SO much mockery and negative stuff, feels similair to me and nono. Also bussing Kitty during this time, doubt that would also bus the other scumbuddy)
- Abnegation <Hard pressure (regarding multitasking) early makes this feel unlikely. consideration though, early bus, sees kitty being useless, backs off hard and chills on this>
<Null>
- Doctor Drew (aspectenicor) <I dont think i can read too much into this>
<Paired>
- Flavor Leaf <The chainsaw defense here is interesting to me>
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Status: I think the most likely third scum here is either Flavor or Drew based directly off associative stuff. My feelings on flavor is mostly a townlean, but im also being paranoid because flavor feels like a pretty good maniuplator. Drew is a \o/. I think Dave is 100% not scum here based off of all of this. Abnegation i doubt is scum but not as confident.
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Okay. Posting now. Will look at Day 2 and 3 for Hu, I know that NOTHING Kitty says matters on Day 2.-
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No, Hu Tao didnt vote.
Im pretty sure.
@MOD - Double check that please
VC corrected. - Game ModLast edited by Random Nurse on Wed Sep 20, 2023 5:46 pm, edited 3 times in total.-
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Ok read through Hu's day 2, not much to read into. Doesnt look like it's flavorbuddy.
CamelAnother thing im curious about, why did you choose the neighbor targets that you did?-
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I think im done for tonight. Hopefully theres content in the morning good night-
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Agreed.In post 1063, geraintm wrote: People's paranoia about me involves me getting one of my partners killed day 2, and then kynother partner getting horribly caught up in a game of who's the cop and leave me to win this all by myself.
You are all being a little bit much if you thinknthat happened
Any results to speak of?-
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Explain “enchant is scum”In post 1056, Doctor Drew wrote: Why do you want me to 'get up on stage' if you are just gonna throw out false accusations of me. You even are explaining away the track on me lol.
The simplest solution is the correct solution, I am just VT.
Pre Edit: Lol, oh I see the answer is Enchant is just scum....I will let you guess which one of us is Enchant here-
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Okay- if I’m right we have two elims remaining, including a no-elim day to bring it to 3 players. We have some room to work.
My pool of potential scum is, in order from least likely to most likely, Abnegation -> Drew -> Flavor
Flavor I’m honestly being Uber paranoid about. I find myself agreeing too easily with-
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Abnegation being a multitasking ninja roleblocker seems ridiculously unlikely- if there was a ninja, that’s who I would want to carry out the kill on N1, and gera caught kitty on that night. There’s also the hard push on abnegation from Hu Tao regarding multitasking. I’d think that if they were doing that as a way to clear abnegation, Hu probably could have easily done it in a different way to make Abnegation look better.In post 1052, Flavor Leaf wrote: Nono getting roleblocked Night 2, and Geraint tracking Abnegation soft clears Abnegation. They can only be scum if Multitasking Ninja Roleblocker exactly.
Drew has to be Multitasking Roleblocker who didn't act Night 3 (or Ninja), but I think there's evidence out there to clear almost every slot except Drew on play.-
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Why is it Dave over abnegation in that scenario in particular?In post 1075, Flavor Leaf wrote: Because I believe in almost every situation here, you are the obvious choice for scum this game.
My plan of action here is:
Doctor Drew today
If game continues, you can fade me for your own security.
And then you get put into a 50/50 with Klazam/Davesaz.
I don’t believe it passes Drew, and I actively take the loss as scum with this plan, so it makes no sense for me to push it like that.
I’ll do one better
I believe Doctor Drew is exactly a Multitasking Even Night Roleblocker.-
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Ok I misunderstood your statement I think. Just want to make it clear we only have three day phases with one being a no-elim.
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But I’m still curious to why you didn’t mention abnegation over me/Dave.-
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I hate hate hate self analysis.
I'm starting to lean Drew - I think my analysis the previous day also points that way.
Gera, Dave, really really want to hear from you.
PEDIT I dont think I'd honestly ever claim miller as scum. I think i come from a time where miller claims do NOT go to ELO, but well lol. One thing for your consideration - would Hu Tao counterclaim me as a scumbuddy?-
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Because I wanted to know why he didn’t mention you in that post.
Tbh the fact FL mentions me in that grouping makes me feel better about FL overall. I was worried that he was just trying to say “good things” about me to help tilt my mindset to not going for him.-
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Alright. I think I have nothing else to discuss on my end.
Gera town, abneg looks to be mechanically cleared, and Dave is not scum.
Leaving just these two FL and Drew.
I’m going to
VOTE: Doctor Drew
PEdit: the fuck is with all these self votes in this site meta? Changes nothing for me.-
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Interesting note though.
I actually think FL would be arrogant enough to believe he can manipulate this all the way to a scum win.
I’m now getting massive gut pings that my vote on drew is wrong.-
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