Open 117: Bird C9 - Game Over! before 745

[Sironigous]

/confirm

[Sironigous]

Vote: hohum

*sigh*

[Sironigous]

Unvote

Vote: Dej...

Scum hunting, huh?

[Sironigous]

Eh, I'm disappointed Coolness went that far...

I have no idea if he's telling the truth or not.

Even though the post does seem like a panicked response.

Hm.

It is only Internet though...

[Sironigous]

OH! You mean the Internet thing? Zwet?

XD Lemme go reread what I said...

OK - I meant that it's sooo much easier to pretend to (not) be panicky over the Internet as emotions aren't generally relayed properly.
I mean, to lose a power role is pretty bad...

@Coolness

Hahaha. That's odd. You randomly(?) voted the same as I did for the same "reason."

@Ruler

Aw, see you when you get back.

[Sironigous]

@ Zwet

Ohhh

What was your earlier question than that?

[Sironigous]

What does your last sentence mean, Sir? And you haven't answered my earlier question.

Here's where you ask about the last sentence and an earlier question.

[Sironigous]

OK, that earlier question... Sironigous didn't get the post number, but...

fair enough, but I also don't have a problem leaving him at L-1

The only justifiable reason I can see leaving him alive at this point is so that we can do some real scum hunting, and let the Mafia burn their kill for the night.

This is exactly why we don't want to lynch him under any circumstance today (unless he's not the real cop).

If he's not the real cop, I would like the real cop to claim now.

I say that, because if Coolness is the real cop, he's already getting NK'd tonight. If he fake claiming, at least we can lynch noob scum first day (unless he's extremely noob town which would really screw us over) and the cop will get lynched anyway.

If no one else claims, there's no reason to lynch Coolness and let scum get an certain extra kill over night. The least we can do is keep Coolness alive with the hope of lynching scum today.

Bolded part is, well, what Sironigous regards as important.

Though, other than that, Sironigous has no argument.

[Sironigous]

... hm...

If you're going to retract it, then why say it in the first place?...

Hm Hm Hm.

Is it because you were jumped on? Did the weight get too heavy?

Need a bunny too?

Did you lose rationality for the seconds it took you to write the message?
Did you realize that the real cop shouldn't identify himself or herself, purely for the advantage of the Townies?

[Sironigous]

I'm going to wait for more responses before considering the unvote of my vote.

Thank you for your input though.

[Sironigous]

Not crime, merely a suspicion.

... ~rationality

[Sironigous]

I just want other people to prove me wrong

[Sironigous]

Oh. Sorry about that.

Well.

Lynching scum is always good, no?

So, with the possibility that Dej is mafia, it is a good idea. If he's not, no. Tada!

[Sironigous]

OK. I'll answer more directly now.

The answer to the hohum's first question:

I don't know.

[Sironigous]

Well, I guess that makes two of us.

I mean, hohum asked me for a clarification of my vote on Dej.

I answered him to what I could, I guess.

Other than that... I still don't know.

fishyfishyfishy...

[Sironigous]

It is still Day 1 voting....

[Sironigous]

I wish I did get a PM on that.

Anyway...
I reiterate:

I'm still going to wait for a reason why I should take my vote off Dej.

Other than that, take that vote as, well, an uninformed, conspicuously placed Day 1 vote, one of those spiffy beginner things.

[Sironigous]

Other than that, take that vote as, well, an uninformed, conspicuously placed Day 1 vote, one of those spiffy beginner things.

QFT

I'm sorry, I don't know what you people are looking for.

[Sironigous]

Good point.

Little number of people.

Well... I guess for now.

Unvote

[Sironigous]

A mis-lynch will make the majority of Day 2 5, considering that the mafia nightkill a townie (lol why wouldn't they) and the doctor misses his protect.

That means that the remaining 3 townies, still unaware of their counterparts, have to band together for a majority in order to have a chance at winning. :S

mm..

[Sironigous]

Hey Zwet.

What's "lylo" mean?

I've never heard that one.

[Sironigous]

Ah k.

Thanks Nico.

[Sironigous]

Oh. Haha.

I like math.

But really, this is my first game. I am still utterly confused at how to determine who's scum or not. (lol)

I mean, I guess I got "jumped" for those other statements. So I guess that's not the best route...

[Sironigous]

One more thing - What's EBWOP? Sorry...

[Sironigous]

....

uh... What's IC? Sorry. lol

[Sironigous]

EBWOP:

(yes, I got to use it!)

Nevermind. I'm going to the wiki.

*turns off bother meter*

[Sironigous]

Well, thanks for the consideration hohum.

So, this first lynch is important... Where can we go?... Progress...

We have...


information, not much.
retracted statements, much.

Can retracted statements be the key lead-on to determine the all-important Day 1 lynch??

Find out, on the next posts of Bird C9!!!

[Sironigous]

Hey!

Don't I get a share of beginner's luck though? So.. maybe that luck could boost me up to semi-experienced!

...or is that just a myth?

But yeah... Get more input before lynching anyone... It seems like there's only 4 people (inclusive) actually posting now...

Ruler just got back, so would that make 5?

C'mon people, 7 player game. All are needed.

[Sironigous]

Well...

Oh. Haha.

I like math.

But really, this is my first game. I am still utterly confused at how to determine who's scum or not. (lol)

I mean, I guess I got "jumped" for those other statements. So I guess that's not the best route...

No, I haven't. If you google my name, you'll see what I have played on. Haha.

... do I seem like a non-beginner?

[Sironigous]

I feel special.

Wait...

Could you identify to me which posts do make sense and which ones don't?

... I guess sense posts > nonsense posts?

I mean, I suppose that math one is sensical. But the ones accusing Dej are nonsensical (lol always wanted to use that)?...

... I love how confusing this game is.

[Sironigous]

1. hohum
2. ThaCoolness
3. Sironigous
4. zwetschenwasser
5. nicoliosgotpolio
6. dejkha
7. UnofficialRulerOfEveryone

OK. Time for analysis.

Initial wagon - Coolness.

Dej and Nicolios originally voted for him.

Shortly after, Ruler added his vote, but retracted it a few minutes later, realizing he was at L-1. (I learned that term earlier)

So, I'd say Dej and Nico aren't related to Coolness in any way.

But.. When Coolness claimed he was a cop...

I'd say that, well, the mafia should have jumped on him with attempted excuses, in order to deprive the town of their power role, hoping their excuses were good enough to prevent them from being lynched Day 2.

However, to Coolness' fortune, the bandwagon backed down and switched to Sironigous.

His semi-claim was based on a Dej's retracted statement and with nonsense posts like "scum hunting" before that.

Notice though that Sironigous voted before Dej made his statement. Therefore, he couldn't have had any real stuff on Dej.

Sironigous' questioning was primarily investigated by hohum and then Dej himself. Nico said a few words here and there.

So, currently, Sironigous will state directly:

He believes that Coolness is scum. His partner could be Ruler (unnoticed L-1 vote with quick retraction).

What bugs me is why Coolness didn't jump on the Sironigous band wagon questioning though... Ruler didn't because he wasn't here. Nico did a little. Zwet posed a few questions. Hohum led it. Dej co-led it.

I don't believe Dej is scum with Coolness because of his initial "joke" vote on Coolness.

Now, when coolness claimed (or fake claimed), he did use L-1. How would a newbie (like myself) know this term?... Possibly by reading other games but...

The main point is that he DID attempt to claim.
1. No one asked him to
2. How should he know he should?

He also used the term "bussing." Reading another game? Maybe.

Now, his partner. Sironigous?

Well, had Sironigous not been his partner, he would've jumped to this long passage and voted for Coolness then and there.

Dej?

Maybe, Dej had the initial joke vote, but did retract it - doesn't tell much. However, Coolness didn't band with him in the Sironigous investigation. Was Coolness inactive then?

Nico?

Sironigous thinks no. She had the second initial vote on him with a more valid reason then Dej.

Zwet?

No idea - no interaction (that Sironigous found) with Coolness.

hohum?

Uh, sadistic about seeing Coolness lynched off... Probably not.

Ruler?

Retracted L-1 vote, maybe.


So, this is what Sironigous thinks. Coolness' partner could be Sironigous, Dej, or Zwet.

*Sironigous tried to be as unbiased as possible for this analysis

[Sironigous]

*remember, think carefully now. Mis-lynch is basically GG for town.
*remember, think carefully now. Sironigous could be terribly wrong and GG the game for the town.
*remember, think carefully now. This is Sironigous' first game.
*remember, think carefully now. Any added input is greatly accepted.
*remember, think carefully now. Who is it?...

**EDWOP.. (sweet, got to use it again)

[Sironigous]

EDWOP...again.

This does assume that the mafia members would try to help each other.

This also assumes that mafia would try to bandwagon together.

[Sironigous]

Oh dangit, did I do something wrong again?...

Vote: Coolness

.. I forgot to do that earlier.

[Sironigous]

You know what...

Yeah...
We have to find Coolness' partner, just in case he is Mr. Cop.

I guess WIFOM (sweet another wiki term) says... vote for his partner.

Unvote

Vote: Dej

[Sironigous]

EBWOP

@Coolness

That still doesn't say why you (maybe) impulsively claimed though...

[Sironigous]

Oh... uh...

You haven't told me why I failed with the attempted analysis, Coolness.

[Sironigous]

(psst, Coolness also voted for me)

Fixed. -Mod

[Sironigous]

Yea.. Good point Ruler... Let's see what hohum has to say. He has been a main contributor in this, and I really don't want to mis-lynch uniformed.

Unvote

Well, I guess you are lynched.

Who is this directed to?

[Sironigous]

Coolness, I'll get back to you when hohum posts.

[Sironigous]

Wait... is that another scum tell?

Dangit. -_-

Well Coolness, I don't know what your posts are supposed to imply, but if that's what you feel, be my guest.

So what if I use another person's logic? I posted mine, and it was called a failure.

So, why shouldn't I try someone else's?

[Sironigous]

Dangit, now I'm pickled.

If I revote then I'll be following Cool's opinion telling me that I have no opinion, and that I'd only be voting because of his opinion.

Now, if I stay unvote, I'd be opinionated by people saying that I also have no opinion and make my opinion off the base of others' opinions.

So I figure I'll stick with my second opinion to wait for hohum's opinion.

Obviously the cop is somewhere in this game.

[Sironigous]

So, why shouldn't I try someone else's?

Because it isn't your's...?

...wait... but if mine are bad...

Yeah, I'll try to grow some soon.

[Sironigous]

Point by point analysis!

[Sironigous]

Yeah, I am. I'm still writing it though. One sec guys.

[Sironigous]

Pre-Post: If you're not going to read the whole thing, don't read it at all.

First off, hey hohum!!

Time for some fun... This may be my last message.

"And it was written...

And so, an enlightenment had come to Sironigous' mind with the return of the missing hohum. As hohum first ridiculed Sironigous' failed point by point analysis, Sironigous realized that fellow townie Coolness does tell the truth.
'Coolness is townie!' exclaimed Sironigous. From his readings, Coolness learned about pre-death-claiming and L-1 terms, not from previous game experience.

Now, who would think it matters if Coolness is townie or not? Obviously Sironigous does!
'Hm, Coolness is the cop, so what's that mean?' Sironigous thought to himself. 'Well, first off, that whole analysis is wrong. But, what makes him cop?... No one has lashed out against him for claiming, other than hohum. Does that make hohum the cop or?... No. It doesn't. So, now we're stuck back in the beginning with a bunch of bickering posts. How does that help? Let's see... '

As Sironigous paced back and forth, he realized that there are probably mafia and townies against him. Mafia with an attempt to kill the town. Townies confused by Sironigous' accusations.
'Could it be... that the mafia are instigating my death? No. My analysis is never right,' Sironigous morbidly thought to himself. 'So if Coolness were the cop, then where does this come from?...

I think we need to reread the thread and find out who isn't posting and who is purposfully trying to lay low right now. I think if we do that, analytically speaking, we've got a good chance of finding Coolness' scum partner.

(post 166 hohum)

Could Coolness... not be the cop?... how can... I tell? Why has the real cop not tried to condemn him?
Stuck. I'm stuck. I should've asked more earlier.'

So, the confused Sironigous still pondered on his mistakes.
'Does that make hohum on the townie side? Well, of course... if he's against the mafia Coolness, then he's for townie. But Coolness still says he's the cop...'

As Sironigous kept thinking, he began to dread what would happen if he were lynched.
'Lynched... by fellow town mates... Lynched... by mafia. But, what happens to the town after that?... do they even know each other now? Has the mafia become too influential? So much pressure....

Perhaps if we ratchet up the pressure a bit you'll be more inclined to try and save yourself.

(post 232 hohum)

So, who will be the one to end my pain?

Perhaps...

I'll gladly either unvote or ask someone to hammer based on his response. For now he can stay at L-1

(post 234 hohum)

...Ugh.. these messages keep going through my mind. Listen to other people's opinions, don't listen to other people's opinions... is nothing right in this world?'

... And with that, it was ended."

Vote: hohum

[Sironigous]

Well I'd say no, but that's biased. If you read all of it, go ahead.

It may be fence sitting, but it's worthwhile, considering the reactions I've gotten from people.

I'm amazed at the change of heart hohum had from 234 to 242.

But, that's what I believe, and I'll find if I'm right at the end of the game. Ta ta everyone.

[Sironigous]

....

Seriously?

...

Sweet, I was retardedly right at the end!.... half way.

I love how hohum hid behind me the whole game. That was great!! Just waiting for me to mess up and then set the hammer down.

Nice job mafia.

...Nicolio, no idea... no idea at all... haha...