Open 100 - F + E x 2 + TOG OVER! before 712

[HowardRoark]

@ThAdmiral: No need to extend for me at this time.

Howdy, y'all! I did a read through after requesting to replace, but before I was accepted. I will do one more read through before I post my thoughts. Let me assure you, I will not be an inactive player.

Not sure if

Seraphim[/b] had a ballot cast or not, so . . .

unvote

. . . until re-read is complete.

[HowardRoark]

vote

Soveliss

hp [leaves]

As far as HP's question about the killings. It doesn't mark him more town. If anything it makes him more scummy. As town it is our task to lynch those that are killing so it makes no difference if its a mafia kill or wolf kill. A kill is a kill.

For a town player the way of killing shouldn't matter. In this game we know all the roles and the towns task is finding those who are killing.

what would town find useful from knowing this?

This was the only argument made against

hp [leaves]

. This pursuit was dropped once many players moved onto

Tenchi

. . . and a vote followed with this comment

Tenchi's vote on HP comes off strange to me. Seems he is trying to park his vote on the easiest target he can find. HP has been the prime discussion thus far and was a easy target.

Nothing like hitting the "easiest target" while shaming others for doing so.

Soveliss

's second post after those is the switch to

popsofctown

is made as the group moves to discussing

popsofctown

over

Tenchi

. (Opportunistic again.) Then to seal the deal . . .

It looks likely i'll be the days lynch, so i think i'll do the best i can and try to flag some scum before i go down. Please, hopefully, wait until the deadline or close so i can reread and analyze as much as i can, try to find some suspicious people. Remember folks, even if i were 100% scum, there would still be benefit to looking around town before making the lynch, because we can flag people that are suspicious so opposing scum factions can nightkill eachother.

These kind of posts really bother me. When I see them they just scream 'scum in danger' to me.

I disagree with the analysis.

(

hp [leaves]

replaces)

My suspicion of SC is mostly caused by Budja's Day 1 posts. And voting Wall-e when he said tenchi was mafia.

Vote: StrangerCoug

Tenchi seems scummy at most at the moment

Interesting . . . since the vote is on

StrangerCoug

.

T -> Tenchi
S -> SC
W -> Wall-E
| -> The middle

SCUMMING CHART

OBVSCUM---------S--------------T----|--W----------------------OBVTOWN

*double take* What about your previous statement?

Unvote, vote Tenchi

Well, at least now things are aligned. Care to explain the previous dissidence?

[HowardRoark]

@

Haschel Cedricson

: I can't defend against the poor play of my predecessor,

Seraphim

. As I re-read, knowing whom I was replacing, I shook my head. On another note, your burst of posts and following inactivity have been noted.

@

blueheaven

popsofctown

: Still 2/3 days until deadline. BTW, you never really posted a D2 case against

Tenchi

, but you are adamant about his lynch. How about a good case?

@

Soveliss

hp [leaves]

: Any defense to my case against you? Your non commented mini-PBPA means nothing. Then you post again, but without even mentioning nor concluding it.

@

Tenchi

: Sorry, no deadline extension request is coming from this guy. There are some things to be learned from a lynching. The number of inactive and lurking players is what is killing this game. If I fail to see a logical lynch candidate tomorrow, then I will ask that others join me in my Lynch All Lurkers stand. Lurking = anti-town behavior.

@ThAdmiral: Can we get a mass prod for this game, reminding of the deadline? Thank you, sir.

[HowardRoark]

@

popsofctown

: You have several posts noting things that you did not like. Near the end of the day, you asked "Would anyone hiss at me for being redundant if i restated my case against Tenchi?" You never did restate it, so I am asking you to do so now. Then you changed your vote to

Seraphim

over one post.

[HowardRoark]

@

Tenchi

: Why move your vote away from your #1 choice?
--------

Your case against me is caused from you misinterpreting me which I have responded to way earlier

This is your third post since my case against you. None of which have held a response. Weak.

If my mini-PBPA means nothing, is there any reason I should conclude it?

I want to know what the point of it is.
--------
Deadline is about 2 days away.

[HowardRoark]

@

Soveliss

hp[leaves]

: Here are your posts quoted in my case against you. None of these (since they were written before my case against you) contain a response to my points against you . . . Post 403, Post 408, Post 436, Post 443, and Post 477. You can't throw me off that easily.


With all of the crap being written in most of these posts, extending the deadline won't help any more. Moving a vote from your number one player to your number three (both votes serving as the second on each votee) does not help a person's case. Not responding to direct questions with simple answers looks scummy. An "I'll switch last minute" statement makes it appears as if your vote is pretty much up for sale. Scum has been doing a great job of lurking and throwing confusion into the works.

[HowardRoark]

QFT

Nobody tried to save Tenchi this whole time. Now, suddenly, Soveliss is in trouble and someone hops onto Tenchi's wagon to try to save him. You've tipped your hand, Cederic.

I'm not sold on Tenchi's innocence, but I think we may have found one pair of night killers. My patience has paid off.

[HowardRoark]

Soveliss is my other pick for the lynch today, so he gets my vote.

Unvote: Vote HaschelCedericson

We are within hours of the deadline resolving, and you do some jumping like this?!?!? That makes

Tenchi

the vote leader and you are responsible for his lynch at this point with your unvote.

FoS: Wall-E

.

That's a loaded question, because it assumes that Tenchi is definitely a townie, which I don't believe is the case.

But it appears that

Wall-E

does believe he is a townsperson

How can you call a townie at this stage in the game trying to stop a myslynch "too self-preservational?"

[HowardRoark]

@ThAdmiral: I confirm vote count

[HowardRoark]

@

popsofctown

: Watch yourself . . . many people here see overstating your townieness as a scum tell.

I knew that

sekinj

was the other mason. That was clear upon my re-read of the thread replacing in. I was hoping that he wouldn't be inactive so that I could follow his vote.

Pending a re-read, but for now . . .

vote BlakAdder

Post or perish!

[HowardRoark]

It's not as if my vote is final, thus the re-read. Also there is a great chance that

BlakAdder

is some kind of night killer. (See odds that

popsofctown

posted.)

Those who didn't figure that initial mason pair after

Doc

's death aren't paying enough attention or are not that experienced.

No, it didn't give a guarantee on scum hunting, but it would have kept me away from voting the mason partner.

vote count

blakadder (1): howardroark
howardroark (1): haschel cedricson

not voting: everyone else

with 6 alive it is 4 to lynch

[HowardRoark]

Great game, especially werewolves.

[HowardRoark]

I can't express how surprised I was when Howard flipped town.

If I had the choice, I wouldn't have replaced in for Seraphin. There was nothing I could do to escape his play. I was called away for training my lynch week-end, so I wasn't even able to get in to try to defend myself at L-1. Not sure if it even could have helped.

Curiosity: Were you scum and werewolves att4empting to target each other or town with your night kills?

[HowardRoark]

So I wasn't the only one who saw that!