Open 130 - Vengeful Mafia (Over!) before 762

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/confirm

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Vote: Zwet

- Have you been in 100 games yet?

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Should we MOS it?

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Pick a player. Then make two pairs of the remaining four. We don't lynch MOS. The person we lynch vengefuls his partner.

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I suggested it as the last time I played Armlx suggested it.

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Sorry, didn't play it, modded it.

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9517

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I think we should look back on MoS if we find an obvious townie. But swe'll drop it for now.

Zwet: Why did it take you so long to disagree with it?

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I'm going to follosw any leads I have.

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Three players hat me and want me lynched everygame I'm in.

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Dodging questions and throwinh insults. Both are scum tells.

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Three players hat me and want me lynched everygame I'm in.

i've nevah play'd in a game wit u b4 dawg... wich 3 playaz alwayz want u lynch'd?

I'd rather not say.

Mole; Do you honestly think that waiting forever to get a read on what town wants and then agreeing with the town isn't a scum tell?

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Mole; Do you honestly think that waiting forever to get a read on what town wants and then agreeing with the town isn't a scum tell?

I certainly see where you're coming from. However, I can't shake the feeling that

in this case

of MoS, it's fairly irrelevant, since even if he had disagreed, it wouldn't have been a scumtell in my eyes.

But from Zwet's eyes it might've been "better safe than sorry"

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It might.
I suppose he'd better post and explain. It might be interesting.

Plus there's the fact that he posted and didn't explain.

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Zwet; Answer the question.

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Would it be cool if I started making FoS counts?

Fine with me.

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He still hasn't answered it. I've played with Zwet enough to know that's not town-zwet.

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- Do you think that my thoughts about MoS make me scum?

Not particularly. As I've said, if you're scum I'd find it more conceivable that you'd be Emp's partner than zwet's.

- Who do you think are the most probable scum right now?

Too early.

I've played with Zwet enough to know that's not town-zwet.

Mind pointing me to a scum game that exemplifies this?
I can't quite imagine there being two different levels of zwetness.

No scum games. Just what I've seen from his town games.

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Zwet: Why didn't you answer the question ASAP?

Zwert; How did that last post help lynch scum?

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I replaced halfway through. I was also planning on suggesting it if we got a clear townie which is why I asked if we had one.

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http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10049

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He tries to be less blatant in his unhelpfulness.

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He tries to be less blatant in his unhelpfulness.

That was my first game on the site, dumbfuck. Playstyles change.

I can't believe I have to warn someone over this.

Please don't insult other people.

Look at your join date.

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He tries to be less blatant in his unhelpfulness.

That was my first game on the site, dumbfuck. Playstyles change.

I can't believe I have to warn someone over this.

Please don't insult other people.

Look at your join date.

It's less than half a year.
What's your point? That playstyles can only change over real time and not over amount of games played?

I think that real time will have more impact than games per played presuming that you're in at least two games at all time.

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We have two days now, right?

Unvote

Vote; TDC

I don't think Mole was bussing, I'm town, K9 probably wouldn't have been "scared" denough to drop a hammer on his scum buddy.

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oh... i thought he ment like a deadline lol

eitha way i dont lik how quikly he votes for tdc and then says "k9 wouldnt be scared to drop the hammer on his buddy"

it looks lik he'z settin evrythin up 4 tomorow or sumthin

No, its saying that TDC is the most likely player as everyone else is semi-cleared through their interactions with Zwet.

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Post 88.

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Post 92 (sorry)

I didn't post bercause either I wasn't here or I didn't have anything to say.

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2) even if he did call me town he'd be playin da rite strategy yo

Wouldn't it cause there lynch the next day? Or at least risk it?

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Molest: You do know that if TDC and Zwet were scumbuddies that TDC would probably had still unvoted lest Zwet hammered and you vengeful killed meaning it can't be taken as evidence of his innocence.

Molest: You do know that I knew your continued attacks were wrong due to him answering the question and you still going about it meaning that if I posted I would've derailed the known-scum wagon making not posting the pro-town action meaning it can't be taken as evidence to scumminess.

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1. You're doing it wrong. Read the avatar.

2. I don't understand you. As scum he could very easily have left Zwet to hammer, claimed he wasn't here to unvote in time (If indeed he was questioned, which would probably be unlikely), and there would have been nothing on him going into D2.

I was talking about killing Zwet.

3. I didn't see the answer, he didn't make it clear. It was his own fault, and indeed, my continued attacks led the game to the point where K9 hammered.. I can't claim responsibility for it, no, but I continued to push the lynch regardless.

So?

Nobody is claiming you're scum for not seeing it or continuing to push it.

I'm saying that if I continued to post the scum wagon may have been derailed so I didn't (and then I went on Holiday.)

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OK, nobody vote yet.

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readin thru da thred i got a question bout dis:

Molest: You do know that I knew your continued attacks were wrong due to him answering the question and you still going about it meaning that if I posted I would've derailed the known-scum wagon making not posting the pro-town action meaning it can't be taken as evidence to scumminess.

emp if u knew molestargazer;s attacks were wrong y did u let him keep makin dem? y didnt u botha to question mole about y he mite hav kept pushin da same point wen zwet alredy responded to that?

I thought Zwet was scum.

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readin thru da thred i got a question bout dis:

Molest: You do know that I knew your continued attacks were wrong due to him answering the question and you still going about it meaning that if I posted I would've derailed the known-scum wagon making not posting the pro-town action meaning it can't be taken as evidence to scumminess.

emp if u knew molestargazer;s attacks were wrong y did u let him keep makin dem? y didnt u botha to question mole about y he mite hav kept pushin da same point wen zwet alredy responded to that?

I thought Zwet was scum.

yea but even if u think sum1 is scum i'd think that if u saw sum1 makin a bad attack against them u mite question them about it to see y they are doin it 'specially wen bussin' in vengeful games is used in a lot of them yo

and we didnt kno zwet wuz scum until he wuz lynch'd & da mod sed he wuz scum so wut ur sayin here iz mostly wifom

Its no more WIFOM than any other statement.

I didn't think Molest was doing a bad case in purpose.

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Vote: K9

I really can't see Molest as scum.

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[quote="Killah Nine" wen he sed "1st we lynch tdc then we lynch k9"[/quote]

Quotes please.

Molest; K9 just blatantly lied in order to get you to hammer me. Hammer him.

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You're wrong.

Giving a reason why I thought you were town =/= Setting you up for the next day's lynch.

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Empking - So who did you think was the scummier at the time of us two if you've given reasons for both of us being town, and TDC turned out to be town?

I hate being in this position.

K9. Mhy reasons for you being town were stronger.

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wait how iz that a reason for me being town? he sed "k9 would not have been scared enough to drop a hammer on his buddy"

if he sed "k9

would

have been too scared to drop a hammer on his buddy" wudnt

that

mean he wuz tryin to find reason for me to be town? or am i readin that wrong?

They're both (different) reasons for you being town.

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K9 - I believe he was saying

K9 can't be scum because he wouldn't have hammered his own scum buddy if he was

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o i read it difrently

thats a dumb reason to call sum1 town if u ask me lol

this is vengeful mafia... the godfatha can easily bus his buddy durin day 1 and still win da game

im not sayin i did that becuz i kno im town but im shock'd that empking wuz usin dat as a reason to call me town yestahday

Yeah, I proubably shouldn't have.

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Mole: Were you the scum or is K9 just being mean?

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Mole: Were you the scum or is K9 just being mean?

wait u were town?

Yes.