Mini 855: Colorless Rainbow Town (Halted for list mod error)

[Fuzzyman]

I don't even think it was antagonistic.

[Fuzzyman]

By the way for everyone's knowledge, I would be voting Manzcar because he is my biggest suspect right now, however I want discussion to carry on freely rather than a mass of suspicion of Manzcar. I think it's too early to confirm that he is scum, and that we should wait for the rest of the players to post. Furthermore,

Unvote.

So what you're doing is expressing a dislike for him without a willingness to take responsibility for his lynch.

Vote: ZEEnon

[Fuzzyman]

As you can tell from my fairly late reply, I cannot be on as frequently as I would like to. Therefore, I don't know what could happen from the time I sign out to the next time I sign in. For all I know, it's been a hectic weekend, and I was unable to sign on. Therefore, a lynch could be realized even before I could see it progress. I think that even without voting him, voicing my suspicions of him gives the same results as me actually voting him. Hell, I said I would be voting him. Therefore, I think it gives the same result.

I would go so far to say that 5 votes over a weekend is highly unreasonable to expect.

[Fuzzyman]

@Fuzzy- What do you think of Raivann's read on you?

Right conclusion, but yeah, I've no clue how he's come to it.

Raivann, I'd also like to see the first scummy post from d3x.

[Fuzzyman]

I agree with cruelty in that wifomish confessions of scumminess are bad. I also disagree with the notion that one needs to have a vote on somebody before being questioned on their reasoning. You have also succeeded in ignoring others' correct ideas that giving protown reads is townish. I think Scien's theory of you supporting causes that point away from you is plausible, but not quite there yet.

Convince me to keep my vote off of you.

[Fuzzyman]

^ WTF!?

[Fuzzyman]

I'm not having fun.

I strongly dislike WIFOM statements like this minor complaint or his earlier one that said we'd be sorry if we lynched his poor townie butt. If you're town, defend yourself and find the real scum. If you're scum, defend yourself and find a townie to lynch or a fellow scum to bus. As Scien has noted, Raivann has actually done a better job of defending himself recently, but don't waste our time with this nonsense.

No, this isn't WIFOM. Look at the final rule of the ruleset.

[Fuzzyman]

Does it really matter, though? From what I can tell, we're in twilight right now.

[Fuzzyman]

Rai has unfortuantely said that he isn't having fun. As per the last rule, we're waiting for a modkill.

[Fuzzyman]

Well isn't this an austere turn of events.

In my opinion, cruelty is likely town due to him being the first person to point out Raivann's scummy opinion.

No chance this was a bus?

[Fuzzyman]

Yeah, ZEEnon's case is probably a turning point here.

[Fuzzyman]

Isn't it awesome that ZEEnon also left us hanging on a rationale to vote Scien?

[Fuzzyman]

I kind of agree with cruelty's sentiments on MM.

[Fuzzyman]

Tell me Fuzzy, is it normal behaviour for you to lurk this bad in games? Honest question. Could you please link me to some of your games {Town and Scum}? Why do you feel the need to not participate?

viewtopic.php?t=8578 ~ Mafia Abandoned
viewtopic.php?t=8218 ~ Town Loss
viewtopic.php?t=11997&start=0 ~ Mafia Win

Admittedly haven't brought a town to victory yet.

I also don't feel that I'm making the biggest failure to play here.

@ZEEnon: Please prioritize more effectively. Rationales for votes come first.

1) That I've been a proactive scumhunter, at least more so than most players

2) I was on Raivann's scumlist...

3) I was on the Raivann wagon

4) I am on Zeenon's townlist

1 is valid, 2 and 3 are too Wifomish (No chance of a bus?), 4 makes me think less of you.

[Fuzzyman]

My vote remains on ZEEnon; I seem to be the only one noticing that he still hasn't justified what looks like it will be his deadline vote.

I dislike Monkey's most recent post.

If you have to use sarcasm to "strengthen" your argument, then it only shows your argument is weak to begin with.

He didn't state that sarcasm strengthened his argument. He stated that you ought to deal with his sarcasm, and that other things you said in your previous post had strengthened his argument.

Way to ask a question without actually asking a question.

Yet it is a question that goes by you unanswered.

How many times do I have to say I am not trying to "look town"? I am pointing out there are scummier players.

I'm inclined to disagree based on your Post 399.

So now you're reverting to a "I know you are but what am I argument"

And a correct one at that.

You were attacking me for scum rolefishing(saying my interaction with Manczar was scummy). According to you I can only attack you if I have your permission.

What abyss did this come from? You completely ignore Chinaman's point.

I don't think so, my arguments are much more logical than yours. If anyone is digging themselves a hole it's you.

This, on the other hand, is an incorrect, "I know what you are, but what am I?" argument.

If Monkey leads the polls near deadline, I'm not opposed to throwing down the hammer.

[Fuzzyman]

Nice job procrastinating on the Scien case.

[Fuzzyman]

Ah, Amished. Perhaps you'll be more responsive.

How is Scien scummy?

[Fuzzyman]

Moreover, is there anybody out there at least sympathizing with my crusade to find out the big Scien scumtell?

[Fuzzyman]

Why in the bloody world would you want for Amished to not give his case on him!?

Townies: if I get NK'd, look hard aat the Scien voters.

[Fuzzyman]

I did not.

[Fuzzyman]

Unless you feel that I implied that you didn't want Amished to

ever

post his case. If that is the problem, let me clarify:

Why in the bloody world would you want for Amished to delay giving his case on him?

[Fuzzyman]

Ok, I see where you're coming from now.

ZEEnon still should get to the most important things first...

[Fuzzyman]

Mr. Coug, is there anything preventing us from using the "no fun" clause strategically?

[Fuzzyman]

ZEE made his Scien post while you were posting that.

[Fuzzyman]

Ok, I probably wouldn't anyways simply because broken games aren't satisfying games, it'd be kinda cheap, etc.

[Fuzzyman]

I don't like ZEEnon's play because:

1. He failed to make a top priority out of justifying his Scien vote.

2. His scumlists seem to just be inverses of what people think of him.

3. He says that he is NOT SURE whether the positive aspects of Scien's play outweigh the scummy, yet still has a vote on him.

I look upon his upcoming MM post with great anticipation.

[Fuzzyman]

I don't think he's as pro-town as he (and you) would have the rest of us believe.

We do still have a ZEEnon post on the subject to look forward to.

[Fuzzyman]

Please don't hammer the one person that you know for sure is town.

[Fuzzyman]

We do still have a ZEEnon post on the subject to look forward to.

What are you waiting for at this point? Wasn't his interview what you were looking for?

At this point I'm talking about his MM opinion, the lack of which makes me more inclined to hammer MM.

[Fuzzyman]

Isn't MM at L-1?

(starts to count votes)

[Fuzzyman]

Guess not.

Vote: MonkeyMan

I'm certain I'm going to be here if/when gets close to deadline, though, so it's all good.

[Fuzzyman]

You no longer intend to self-hammer in 22 minutes, right?

[Fuzzyman]

For tommorow?

[Fuzzyman]

That was to MM.

[Fuzzyman]

I'm not for a no-lynch, but I'll push like heck for an MM lynch until it absolutely must go the other way (an hour from now, that is).

[Fuzzyman]

No, MM, what I'm saying is that I'm willing to vote for Scien, but just at 6:55.

[Fuzzyman]

Can Skruffs be IM'd?

[Fuzzyman]

That was to our good and wonderful

Mod

.

[Fuzzyman]

IGMEOY MM.

2 scary, glowing eyes actually.

This.

[Fuzzyman]

~scum~
MonkeyMan
Skruffs
ZEEnon
Dizzle
cruelty
Amished
Chinaman
Jason
Dizzle
d3x
~town~

[Fuzzyman]

Could we have a vote count, sir?

Skimming, this looks like some crazy stuff. I'll have a significant post tonight.

[Fuzzyman]

You're veering awfully close to a quote. I'd put more para in paraphrase.

[Fuzzyman]

Alright, let's don out some answers here.

@ Lots of People: How is making a list such as mine anti-town?

@ Dizzle 687: Yeah, sorry about the list mixup. I'll have to redo that.

@ China 717: All information regarding me is correct here.

@ Dizzle 719: I was actually trying to say that it was unfortunate he wasn't having fun.

@ d3x 733: Did I say that? I don't recall it.

Anyways, I've gotta say I feel pretty comfy with a Monkey lynch, especially considering 793, the 809 slip, and the WIFOM.

Vote: Monkeyman

[Fuzzyman]

Is it me, or is there a fad of self-imposed posting resrictions?