Mini 868 - Classic Werewolf - GAME OVER

[Chaco]

Coug, why do you like me as scum?

I apologize for not getting a post in before the day ended yesterday.

[Chaco]

MrS: What makes you think it's still a good idea? You never gave a reason for voting for him in the first place, just did so to get your vote off of yourself. That was a terrible attempt at a BW just now.

Vote:MrSuave

[Chaco]

yeah, I don't think that really changed the fact that someone is a L-1 >_>

my vote on SC is for the same reason as the day before.

Why is that?

MrS: What makes you think it's still a good idea? You never gave a reason for voting for him in the first place, just did so to get your vote off of yourself. That was a terrible attempt at a BW just now.

Vote:MrSuave

[Chaco]

@Jazz: I'll get to it, I'd prefer to read through again first and through Iso.

[Chaco]

Chaco,

Do you plan on contributing anything of substance at some point?

Did you just replace in for purposes of saying nothing as your predecessor did?

Other?

Regards,
Jazz

Sorry, I've been busy. I'll get to it later, I'm going to the doctor in a bit.

[Chaco]

Can I get a better case on SC? I don't see good reasoning yet as to why he's at L-1.

[Chaco]

Can I get some content?

If you beg. Nah, due time. I want to hear the answer to my previous post first.

[Chaco]

Still waiting on that answer...

[Chaco]

Mhm.

[Chaco]

I can post my content and have plenty of time to have that discussed, but as of right now. I want it answered.

[Chaco]

Wow, you seem rather hell bent.

[Chaco]

Wow, you seem rather intent on not posting any content.

Wow you seem rather intent on not posting a legitimate case.

[Chaco]

I was not waiting on you to begin with really, it was Mr.Suave.

And until he answers, you can wait. If he avoids it, he can die.

[Chaco]

You have the stalling game Pegged wrong. Suave is stalling.

[Chaco]

Yeah but that isn't relevant to why I think you're scummy. Having said that, I agree that MrS needs to post a case, and if you flip town then he's probably next based on his tunnelling on you + active lurking.


Chaco this is ridiculous, you're giving a pathetic excuse for not posting content. I'm seriously considering shifting my vote to you.

Well, my vote is on Mr Suave. He is scummy, he's on StrangerCoug for no apparent reason. I've seen Coug hopped on for no reason, but a flimsy case. I asked for a better one. No one obliged. I am still waiting on that, as you know. MrSuave is actively lurking avoiding posting the case, because he can get by with it. He is receiving no scrutiny in the slightest over it, and yet instead you vote me. Shit makes absolutely zero sense. Thoughts on the game previously? Does that matter now? No. What we're playing for is toDay which everyone has seem to forgotten and been bitching about my thoughts on what is done. Going through and posting my entire thoughts would be near meaningless. You can tell where I have my vote as that is where my suspicions lie.

[Chaco]

Sup I have school. I can't post at your whim. I'll post in the next hour. I can't post a lot from my phone.

[Chaco]

To clarify first off: I

do not

active lurk, I just do not post. I keep up with the thread. I know what's been said. Once again, diverting attention to past days is pointless. Obviously I find MrSuave scummy.

Also, re-evaluate who's stalling. Obv obv MS.

He states no reason

again

for voting Strangercoug, and then starts talking about himself to avoid votes on him.

He's mad scummy, stalled answering me forever (which, mind you

is

a scumtell), and upon answering offers no support.

[Chaco]

So, now, can we look at the main pushers of the Coug lynch? Cruelty, Suave.

My main push is Suave, he constantly avoided answering the question and Cruelty got pushy when I didn't accept his "case".

I'd say the play today is Suave, and upon his flip the next day could be Cruelty. That, however, is pending.

[Chaco]

um... why wouldn't we just no lynch today so we have a beter chance of success. unless there are 2 scum left, which means we ned a lynch today. =___= delema... if someone places a vote on someone who is not scum, we auto lose if there are 2 scum left D=

There are more than likely 2 scum left, as it is generally 1/4 of the player base. Which would be 3 since this is a 12 man game.

And the no lynch idea is terrible.

Oh, and Cruelty, the problem is that you were wrong. StrangerCoug was pretty obviously town, and I asked for a better case. None presented. Suave is scum, and you're almost there with him.

[Chaco]

Suave, who's scum? Why?

[Chaco]

Mod: Why not use the time rule? It seems a lot better in my opinion, as the random lynch shows no real deal to either side.

By time rule you mean... of the two tying player, the one who reached their limit first is lynched? I'm sorry, I dont know what you mean by time rule. I had many options to choose from, but I felt that the random lynch would be the most threatening for either side. I was hoping it would cause people to do what is needed not to have a tie.

I would be willing to change the rule, but I need to know what you mean and I need to consider it first. Any other suggestions will also be taken into consideration. I'm trying to make the most-fair all-around game possible, so I'm sort of experimenting with many different ideas. Thanks!

[Chaco]

By time rule you mean... of the two tying player, the one who reached their limit first is lynched? I'm sorry, I dont know what you mean by time rule. I had many options to choose from, but I felt that the random lynch would be the most threatening for either side. I was hoping it would cause people to do what is needed not to have a tie.

I would be willing to change the rule, but I need to know what you mean and I need to consider it first. Any other suggestions will also be taken into consideration. I'm trying to make the most-fair all-around game possible, so I'm sort of experimenting with many different ideas. Thanks!

What I meant is exactly what you said. If it is tied, whoever got that amount of votes first is lynched.

[Chaco]

Chaco.

You never, ever presented a viable alternate case other than basically saying, 'let's lynch MrS'. You refused to post any sort of content, and you never really vehemently tried to prevent SC's lynch.


I would say that this is a lot scummier than mislynching - sure, I was wrong. It happens, SC didn't adequately defend himself and I didn't get the impression he was particularly concerned with scumhunting. You however did absolutely nothing other than stall.

Once, again, I wasn't the one stalling the process if MS would've posted I would've sooner. He's scum, you're getting there more and more.

[Chaco]

Well, I thik Nik could be scum. I know this is weak, but from what I know about him (he's my RL friend), he would almost always go for me, in any game we play. I find it strange that he resented a case on me, and then didn't go after me. I mean, even in the game of Pokemon Madness mafia when we were in mylo (that's when it could be the last day right?) and we knew he was town, and I was town, he still went after me D=. We lost that >_>. But yeah, this doesn't match his playstyle when he plays with me. That's my suspect right now.

Care to put any logical reason as to why?

[Chaco]

Full blown scum tells? Elaborate upon them if you would, and stop being ambiguous on the matter.

If it is only stalling, I dismiss it. As the stalling you speak of is misguided and you're tunneling to hard to realize that.

[Chaco]

So MrSuave wasn't stalling then?

[Chaco]

MrSuave was lurking. There's a difference.
You were making up crappy excuses to not post your case. MrSuave simply wasn't showing his face ITT.
In this case, your behaviour is scummier.

There's no difference, and you making excuses for him is pathetic.

[Chaco]

How so?

[Chaco]

How so?

[Chaco]

Answer the fucking question. I can't comprehend you being town at this point, you're being unhelpful to the point of absurdity.

Nor can I you.

So let's try your use of language to get my point across:

"Explain why you fucking think I'm tunneling on MrS, right goddamn now."

And as far as Jazzmyn, she's town. Further questions, scum?

[Chaco]

Vote: MrSuave

[Chaco]

Jazz, vote MrSuave with me.

[Chaco]

Suave can die now.

[Chaco]

If you can win the game by lynching a townie today, then by all means go ahead. It will only peg Suave as scum.

Suave's logic makes zero sense, and is ridden with fallacies.

Dumb or Scum guys, seriously.

Nik,

IGMEOY

...

[Chaco]

and I think that Chaco's is worse than MrSuave's

Naturally.

[Chaco]

Bus votes can happen, Nik.

[Chaco]

Actually, to be honest, I play more townie when I'm scum and more laid back as town. I said naturally as a bit of sarcasm, nudging at the fact that you're so obv scum it's not even funny.

And, Suave, kick your outside meta out the window. If you're using it to convince people in this game it will not work.

Jazz, is probably town, and is the most townie to me at this point.

Both cruelty and Suave were on Coug's wagon, hmm....watcha fucking know two days back to back!

Nikanor helped lynch D3x along with Jazz, so they're golden to me right now.

Suave's the play.

[Chaco]

I never uttered the words "lol". Because if I had it would imply that I am laughing out loud, and as you can tell I am not doing so. Never will I utter that.

Also, that meta is worthless. He wasn't nice to you? Believe it or not, not every mafia player on this site is a breath of fresh air. That meta, really is worthless. I find it funny how easily you are manipulated by that. Considering, to me, it was laden with sarcasm. Considering how he called you on AtoE.

Also, rebuttal.

[Chaco]

I never contradicted myself, I was simply stating that bus votes can happen since he was clearing her only for that.

They're golden to me right now because that on top of other things.

Cruelty, just go ahead and throw in the towel. You're casting suspicion on every single person, except your partner.

[Chaco]

I'm prepared to throw Suave away, and you along with him.

[Chaco]

well I suppose my only case against you is that I don't trust you ^_^; like someone pointed out all I really have against you is that you were acting funny in my opinion. but yeah, I suppose my play seems more similar to Korlash, but I personally don't think that Korlash applies to any of my future games, because now I am more knowlagabe in roles and such. For example I assumed that there was a cop, doc, and mafia. I didn't know what a RBer was or what a tracker was, and when I did find out about it I just tried to stay under the radar. but I was also milking a noob card I was given. I can never play that kind of meta again. =/

...What!?

Seriously. Lynch MrSuave tomorrow. I hate to play the role of martyr, but with the time left it looks like I have to.

I love how people "forgot" this.

[Chaco]

Mod: How will a tie be settled?

I'm sticking with a random decision between all who are tied.

[Chaco]

Suave, by doing that you're only making yourself look worse. Which is absolutely fine by me.

@Town: Go ahead and put your votes on now so they don't pile on at the end make you look dumb.

Cruelty, you're pretty much obv scum now, and if it will nail you...I'll vote for you. Because I know Jazzmyn will.

[Chaco]

Jazz, why's that? I've done nothing scummy at all besides avoiding cooperating. And i my opinion, that's not scummy. I've given you scum on a golden platter.

Let's break this down;

Look at the past two days vote counts, and notice the consistencies within them. Why are these consistencies exist? Before answering that, are you aware of StrangerCoug's meta and the effect that can have on newer scum? It's a profiency ordeal in all honesty. StrangerCoug is indeed a better player, so it only makes sense to get rid of him, no?

Now, this is not the only thing that worries me, as I was the only one to vocally object to Coug's lynch besides himself.

You, who had a vote on someone else, did not do anything to stop it. Most of the time, when you object, you try to push it elsewhere, yes? Well, I didn't see that. I wonder why? Not concerning yourself with the lynch is pretty smart, wouldn't you say. Apply steady pressure to one target while your pawns do the damage for you. A sacrificial technique. I wonder if you have the brains to pull it off. I like to pride myself it knowing scum strategies. When I'm lazy with a game they are extraordinarily hindered. As in this one. But now, analyzing it further. I am not sure. I wanna say a No Lynch is the best option for town right now, because of the vote division. Two things will happen from this day:

1) If going as s right now, the random decision will be made. One of us will die. If I die, then Suave will be Auto lynched tomorrow, yes?

2) What if Suave is town? He seems to obvious the play but even know Jazz is convincing me to look at her more.

I've grown tired of typing this at the moment, its faulkner-esque I know. I don't really care at the moment. I find it amusing how laziness is now a scumtell, and overrides actual ones.

Predictions: Cruelty will make a snappy remark.
Suave will continue to play dumb, as it's obvious it is a flummox.
And Nik will stand on the side lines.

How will your story unfold Jazz?

[Chaco]

Yeah, terrible town. GGs scum. You've won.

[Chaco]

Ignore the above post.

Anyways, yeah. Despite how much dumb and dumber wanna push it. I'm not scum. And I completely forgot this game was Werewolf even, aha. <.<;

[Chaco]

Anyone, Bueller?

Bueller. Ferris Bueller.