Mini 201 - Game Over!

[Someone]

Not sure why disregard kill Yanqush... peculiar tigris dead. Who kill player first game back? Plausible SK killed randomly?

[Someone]

Remember possibility vig kill tigris.

Unlikely, but possible two vigs...

Why my restriction?

vote:hezlucky

Crap logic. Post 26.

More later

[Someone]

Post 26...

Changing a vote not indicator of scum.

Also, frustration means town not scum.




I cannot double post

[Someone]

I know. I was asking to prompt speculation.

Still think HezLucky scum, willing lynch viking I guess.

vote count, mod?

[Someone]

Request for vote count also

[Someone]

If no counter-claim, vikingfan probably innocent because already 3 kills.

Question to DP. Do you claim?

[Someone]

Hard to follow game with post restriction. Will try to be more active.

Am gone until monday, though.

[Someone]

Woah, there. Watch out. One from a lynch.

Why no roleclaim? Seems like bad idea to me.

[Someone]

Checking in, waiting for a claim.

[Someone]

True, if he had a pro-town role, why not claim before being lynched?

[Someone]

Same with my point, actually.

[Someone]

Why is that? Viking could easily be an SK, or even part of the mafia group.

Blackberry, any reason for your phoebus vote? I don't think you'll find much support in your vote unless it's based on something concrete.

And people,

please

stop using someone if you're not referring to me.

[Someone]

Not the vig

And I want phoebus to answer the question.

[Someone]

I'm actually inclined to believe Blackberry as vig. I don't know about you guys, but the fact that he claimed first just does something for me.

Just throwing this out there, don't lynch me for it, but is no-lynch an option? If we only have two scum left...

This seems to be the general concensus:

Phoebus/Blackberry- Scum/innocent
Viking-Roleblocker
Yanqush-Cleared
HezLucky-Mafia/innocent
Someone-Mafia/innocent

Now, I see how viking is slightly cleared. But how is yanqush?

And can somebody outline the Blackberry over Phoebus for scum logic?

[Someone]

...unless he part of a two-person scum group...

But yeah, for all intents and purposes we can assume he's town. However, we lynch scum tonight, and there are still two kills, we can't discount the fact that yanqush is not completely cleared.

[Someone]

Can't assume Yanqsh or vikingfan is town.

I like the no-lynch better.

vote:no lynch

[Someone]

I think I'm the one that should be given the benifit of the doubt to claim secondly. You're not weaseling out of a claim that easily Hezlucky...

Have I not already been cleared of skness? Since all the mafia are gone, unless I'm some weird neutral role, it would seem that I'm cleared, no?

[Someone]

(Erg, that should read Hezlucky)

[Someone]

*sighs*

I'm the third part of the neighbourhood watch.

I was going to try to get hezlucky to claim first to confirm my role even further, but I was getting the feeling that he knew what my role was.

Hezlucky, how is that

proving

I'm the SK without claiming? All you're doing is proving that It's possible that I'm going the killing... You're not disproving that

you are doing the killing

.

I don't like how you are claiming you are above suspicion Hezlucky, IMO, you are the most suspicious one today.

*goes off to do reasearch*

PS-

I was suprised to find the thread so far down the page, can we pick things up a bit please.

Perhaps it's because we only have three players left?

[Someone]

There's not much more I can say. I trust that phoebus is good enough to read through the game and come to the right decision on his own.

[Someone]

-Mafia doesn't have definitions. If halo wanted to make a three-person neibourhood watch, what reason does he have not to?

-I'm not sure why you keep pressing this issue. Phoebus obviously abstained from killing N1. He especially wouldn't want to get tigris, in tigris's first game back...

-Take your word that I'm unblockable? My word is much better . He'z the serial killer and unblockable.

[Someone]

Ok...whatever, you're still the SK.

[Someone]

Don't worry, he'll come around eventually. Until then, we can just have useless chatter so the mod doesn't suspect anything.

[Someone]

I don't think the mod will have a problem with waiting for you to have more time...

We all know that you have limited access problems, and are not a dirty old lurker (like me ).

Now, I could dig up all the results etc. , but it's really moot now since we've narrowed it down to two possibilities, and we know all the other roles in the game.

[Someone]

post 342 sounded like the script from one of those CSI shows that are always playing on late-night TV.

Night 1 Nobody was at LML's house
Night 2 Phoebus was protected, but we couldn't see who did it. (Assuming yanqush)
Night 3 Blackberry was killed but escaped unseen. (Assuming Phoebus)

Again, it doesn't really tell you much. The fact that we "missed" N2 and N3 was relevant at the time, but now that we've

solved

the game it's much less important.

[Someone]

It's the odds man. After the fact, you can't argue with them.

I thought phoebus was scum, and that he might not keep up his end of the bargain.

[Someone]

Er, sorry. Blackberry was killed but we couldn't identify

the killer

(not blackberry, which would be weird )

And yep, I get the action.

[Someone]

We weren't told anything. I can speculate that it's maybe 66 and 33...but I really don't know.

We were just told that we would get less effective as we die off.

[Someone]

There's no real arguement against neighboorhood watch. Hez, do you seriously think that this game should go into a mini theme? This game is still played normally, and there is no theme knowledge required...This is obviously a regular game.

Hez, what was the point of your little scenario? Phoebus night killing you has the same effect as him lynching you, no? If Phoebus lynches or nightkills you, we win. Else, we lose. That's all there is too it. Don't complicate matters with night scenarios that don't amount to anything.

If you would just look at my claim and hez's, you would realize that

hez's is bogus

. Hez's claim seems to be made up on the spot. If you look at his post 194, you'll see that he analyses the game without even

mentioning

the possibility of a backup doc. I'm sure the possibility would have occured to him, if he was the doc...

Plus, backup doc is a very obvious role to claim. Hez probably just slapped the role out there without giving it much thought contextually to the game. Just look back at his posts. Does it make much sense that he's the backup doc? On the other hand, my role, the watch was a less common role, but you

cannot look back

and find much at all to dispute that I hold that role.

[Someone]

You're slipping, hez. Some of this stuff doesn't make sense at all.

If you don't believe I'm the backup doc, you can test it out at night and confirm me. You simply can't do that with Someone's role.

How? Detail the plan which would "confirm" you, and I'll listen.

Your argument about looking back at the game is bogus: heck, I coulda claimed neighborhood watch and it woulda checked out. Look at my interactions with DP. He was voting EYNH along with me. Never once did he vote for me.

The problem is, I claimed first. You couldn't have claimed neighboorhood watch without looking extremely suspicious. Actually, at first I thought you were going to claim the same thing as me, which is why I held back my claim. But then I realised that phoebus would know you were lying.

So heck, it would make more sense for me to be a neighborhood watch then it would for you. If I can argue that successfully, then your argument holds no water.

No, it doesn't. Because you aren't the watch. You couldn't claim the watch without looking suspicious. The fact that a number of coincidences make it look like you're part of it doesn't mean anything at this point.

Maybe I'll have to rethink though. On a reread of the whole game (not just your posts), it does make more sense that you were planning your claim. I did miss that you admitted that you had no night choice.

[Someone]

Nooooooooo...



Hmm...I was really in a spot when I realised what Hez's role was. I couldn't claim backup doc too, because Hez was the one who dropped the hint. Was there anything else that I could have done to have a better chance to win the game?

[Someone]

The problem is, there was no way for me to know that you were scum, vikingfan. Fine, I may have done better in hindsight, but at that point if I decided to kill you, it would probably be for the wrong reasons.

[Someone]

To make sure that no one found out that you didn't actually block people.