Mini 973: "Bawhston" Brawl (WHAT A WIN!)

[JacobSavage]

Whaa! That is a lot of action
I'll get back later

[JacobSavage]

Oh yes, 112 wasn't it?
NOTE: Be wary of the evil eye

[JacobSavage]

Furry was absolutely right about comparing a PGO to a Miller. Miller is completely impossible to prove without lynching the person who claimed it and then it is too late to anything other than say "Oh, I guess they were telling the truth, my bad...." Hoopla, if she is true claiming, is pretty much in the same boat.

Two things:
1. Death Miller.
2. Like 112 with a SK and a Psycolgist who has found the SK on the first night and can therefore use himself as a sacrifice .
Just a few minor technicalities in which you can test claimed roles such as a PGO and Miller

[JacobSavage]

@All

Sorry, I am only just keeping up what with exams and the such like anyway.

I cant quite get out of my head that Oso is scum and Fitz is his partner?

I dont know..

[JacobSavage]

Wee, the only non voter!

And I must say

vote:Slepz

To make everything nice an symmetrical

[JacobSavage]

@TheButtonmen

I doesn't, that was just one role which you can't prove the alignment off, even after death

[JacobSavage]

Anyway, now to start doing something constructive, and following Nika's lead, by Scum reads are:

xRecokonerx, The Buttonmen, Havingfitz, Gwynplaine and possibly Furry.

But I am only up to post 108, so these aren't entirley correct

[JacobSavage]

I that you posted all your reads, following "your lead" is used in the broadest sense of the world

[JacobSavage]

@Furry

More than average, why?

[JacobSavage]

@ Furry

I was reasonably happy with my vote, as it was symmetrical, however now I am not so sure, and thanks for reminding me:

unvote
vote:xReckoner

[JacobSavage]

@Nika

You have yourself a deal

Unvote; Vote:Slepz

[JacobSavage]

@Furry

What you are failing to grasp is that this is a compromise, I think Slepz is to be honest, neutral/weak town, however my getting rid of someone who I think is neutral, I am getting rid of someone who I have a very strong scum read on.

@Gwynplaine

I does nothing, but make everything look pretty. Like so

@All

Just because someone isn't on my list doesn't mean that they are not scum

[JacobSavage]

@Furry

What don't you get this is a deal, I lynch someone who I think is scum, he lynches someone who he thinks is scum. And I will get on to that tomorrow, about who I think is scum. It is fair

[JacobSavage]

Here we go again.... *rolls eys*

@All

The world isn't black and white. How I see it, Red is Scum White is Neutral and Blue is Town. The Dark Shade of either colour you have, the more certain I am of my read. It may help to think of values:
You start at 100, which is white. And the closer to 0 you are the more scummy you are, and the closer to 200, the more townie.
I have got Slepz at 101, and just to give you an idea of where that is, Oso is the most townie with 104, and xReckoner has 94. The average so far is 101 ish, and I am only up to 108 bear in mind, so these arn't totally reprentative.

If Slepz is scum I will still push of the Reck because it is not an or expression it is an and/or expression.

Hope that satifises everyone

[JacobSavage]

1. How much?
2. I don’t include myself in my reads, as i live by the rule be a scummy as possible
3. THIS IS A DEAL, this entire game (by that I mean of Mafia as a whole) is about winning votes, in this case I vote Slepz to lynch xRecknonerx tomorrow/renegotiate if he flips scum.
4. No I use an average because I need to compensate if I am being too harsh/generous. So Slepz is neutral.
5. Just because someone I think is scum is leading a wagon doesn’t mean I can’t be on that wagon. It is in fact the opposite
6. Voting someone when it is going to get nowhere isn’t helpful as if you take one town out of the equation it is a lot harder to get a lynch.
7. I could be alot more scummy if you want something more substantial.
8. Personally I see this as a win/win situation, if Slepz is scum, thats good. If he's town we lynch Recks. I seems like a good deal

[JacobSavage]

Yes I understand that it is a Poisoned Chalice, but it keeps you alive during the night

[JacobSavage]

No, I am make assumptions on the fact that I am right and want xReckonerx dead so much, I will do anything. That isn't scummy, that is called "trying to convince the town", although I will be the first to admit that I do it in a different way. And if that means that I get what I want at the sake of some half-arsed neutral, then so be it.

[JacobSavage]

Ever heard of a phrase called bussing?
Because just becase their is scum on the wagon doesn't mean that the wagon is wrong

[JacobSavage]

Right, now this is where everything gets really interesting, and to be honest I had hoped that this point had happened later.

I am the Town Vigilante. I had hoped to appear as scummy as possible before the night phase so I could go about my duty, hence the deal with Nik

[JacobSavage]

@Oso

1. Unlimited
2. I would be happy with that.

q21 looks like a quite hammer?

[JacobSavage]

Right, reasoning time:
Lets step into the world of xReckonerx, by a ISO:

Vote: LlamaFl...

Erm

Vote: Furry

That entire post just rubbed me up the wrong way, it just seems to me like he has a clear plan already of how he is going to play this.

Everyone target Hoopla tonight

gg

I found this post surprisingly town-ish to be honest, but the fact that he posted this after his first, reinforces my view that he has a pre-laid plan.

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WTF?! Seems to me like he is so shocked that someone might dare vote for him.

.........

Same again

Anyone who took this post seriously should do the human gene pool a favor and go kill themselves.

Ad Hominem in post 19, ??

Halfway into p.1? Lol.

Anyway, there's no way to confirm Hoop's claim, but I think her claim is legitimate. PGO claim prevents PR deaths and also wifoms scum into the risk of killing her. However if scum has a redirect then we're screwed ish.

Immediatly starts accually doing something usefull, but most of it is very obvious and slightly specultive, if he does flip scum, then I would expect either him or scum to be/have a redirector.

STOP DOING THIS SHIT

Ad Hominem again

Tempted to vote Slepz.

You only ever don't vote when it is lylo/Hammer or very close to a Hammer

Gladly -snip- This whole post basically flips back and forth on "It's town. It could be pro-town. It's risky. It's not pro-town. It's SK or scum. Lemme vote the PGO claim." The majority of this post is spent rationalizing how Hoopla's claim could be pro-town, then Slepz slaps down a vote without explaining why he thinks SK or scum seems more likely. Probably because, were he SK or scum, getting the PGO lynched would be beneficial for him so that he wouldn't have to worry about not being about to NK her.

Unvote; Vote: Slepz

Finally he votes who he said he would vote. However he did make some valid points her, but his late vote, and very little reasoning on it, makes me question quite a lot.

No, Hoop, you don't understand.

I'm a jackass.

Not helpful at all. Tries to explain his actions using a meta...

Fitz kinda annoys me.

ditto above

Cry moar.

ditto again

[JacobSavage]

V/LA til Tue

And I didn't Breadcrum and I don't know how I kill