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/confirming (Thats 7. 2 more needed.)Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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I can't decide if moose is really scummy or if he's just so scummy, even trying to be less scummy makes him scummy.
I don't think Hiraki did anything wrong, and boberz is overreacting.
I think moose is at 4, which is too many on page 2, IMO, so VOTE: boberz.
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Side note:My life has taken an unexpected turn and internet access is limited. I can hopefully check in daily and I will do my best to keep up.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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I'm still alive, and as I mentioned, internet access has become limited. I should have more time tomorrow and I will give a detailed read/post then. From skimming, I think moose is terribad townie.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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Did a re-read.
Something strikes me as off about Substrike. Can't put my finger on it, though. His posts just make me go "hmm..."
I still think moose is likely telling the truth. If you're a terribad player, your goal should be to change. Of course, most people don't announce that, but it's good sentiment anyway. However, he needs to calm his potty mouth and if he really does want to change his play, he needs to get to it.
Boberz totally overreacted to Hiraki's initial post. "It sounds to me that you are admitting to being scum and damning at least one of the other two as scum too" from #29 is a massive stretch and one of the scummiest comments I've seen so far. However, the entire boberz/Hiraki argument is meh. I don't really see either as very scummy and the volleying wall posts are irritating.
I semi-agree with Hiraki's comment on pressure. He said pressure doesn't help a lot. I agree in that it doesn't help a lot for certain people. Some people get stressed out and react badly to pressure votes regardless of alignment. I think moose is one of those people. However, how are wagons NOT pressure? That argument totally confuses me.
@beefster: How were Hiraki's comments joking? They seemed serious to me. And the attacks on boberz are ridiculous.
Lord Chronos seems to be posting just enough to seem active.
@Lat re:37- It wasn't necessarily scummy, but it was the worst thing up to that point.
My scum picks are Lord Chronos and Beefster.
UNVOTE: boberz, VOTE: Lord ChronosMillions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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@boberz, I will never learn to love wall posts.
@beefster, No, it doesn't.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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I don't understand what you're trying to say.boberz wrote:Will you learn to not represent people's opinions?Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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@boberz, I don't think I was misrepping you at all. It didn't look like clarification to me. Seemed more like a veiled accusation. But if you say it was just clarification, I'll take your word for it.
Why should I vote the person I feel is the lesser scum just because he has the wagon? I felt Lord was scummier, so I voted him. At this stage, I don't see that it matters. If the Beef wagon grows, then I'll decide if switching makes sense. It also seems like it might be one or the other, not both. Unless bussing is going on.Dekes wrote:Mari, if you think both Beefster and LC are scum, why did you choose to vote the empty wagon over the Beefster wagon? Seems like a wasted vote.
I really don't like the "I'll vote beefster" comment. Also, calling for a vig is very common, regardless of whether there is actually one in the game.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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How so?boberz wrote:MariyataMariyta has been wrong lots.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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Bah. Welcome Broken.
UNVOTE: brokenscraps, VOTE: Beefster, to give Broken time to get into the game.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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When someone is L-2, quick lynch is always possible, and I don't like putting someone that close to lynch that early in the game. We would lose a lot of information to end the game that quickly.brokenscraps wrote:I found Mariyta's vote on boberz fairly odd. Same post she seems to want to put a vote on moose but doesn't because that would put him at l-2 (it would actually put him at l-3, but that is neither here nor there); I don't think a quick lynch was a reasonable threat here, and if you really thought he was the scummiest why wouldn't you want to vote him?
That comment had nothing to do with moose and boberz. It was about Lord Chronos and Beefster. But in regards to moose and boberz, I felt they were about equally scummy, whereas I found Lord Chronos to be clearly scummier than Beefster at the time.Later in the game you would write:
Why should you vote for someone you consider the lesser scum just because they don't have a wagon? Trying to get votes on somebody else would only distract from moose. The overreacting charge seems a very weak reason for voting for boberz here.Mariyta wrote:Why should I vote the person I feel is the lesser scum just because he has the wagon?
Beefster's reasons seemed to be [poorly] parroting mine, IMO. Yes, my initial reason for voting boberz was weak. It was page 2.So I found this vote odd straight away, and it really set alarm bells off when beefster, with his first actual game post, voted for boberz with almost the exact same reason (switching from overreacting to Hiraki to overdefensive to Hiraki). Of course it seems odd that scum would play together like this, but there doesn't seem to be any intention from beefsters of creating a connection between him and Mariyta shown in the post, just a mutual attempt to start a boberz bandwagon for fairly weak (and similar) reasons.
When someone says one thing pretty scummy, that doesn't mean they're scum. Boberz' play for the most part has been decent. I think my case on Lord Chronos was good enough to warrant a vote. And continually trying to link beefster with me is just poor play. First, w/o flips, linking two people is practically useless. Second, the "links" you are making are weak, at best. There is no connection between us, aside from the fact that I listed him as second on a scum list where your predecessor came first. This attempt to link pre-flip seems to be a plague on MS lately.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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/agreeAnt_to_the_max wrote:
WIFOM_to_the_max right there >_>Beefster wrote:
Isn't that kind of the idea? The mafia will do the action worst for the town, because it's best for them. It's just how they roll.Lateralus22 wrote:Gotta catch up later, on skim two things. Why does Beefster assume scum will automatically nk moose? A similar situation has happened before personally and it was devastating for the town.
Just got home from work so I just skimmed things for now and just wanted to say that right now
And the whole "It's Christmas. Of course he's lurking" is lame. Christmas isn't for another week.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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First, I did answer the misrep. I didn't think it was a misrep. It came across as a veiled accusation. And I've already explained that my internet access is limited. You can't hold real life against me. Not to mention there has been very little happening in this game lately. I amboberz wrote: Maryita pops in now and again talks about some very old stuff then goes away again. Not happy at all.
And the misrep (as yet unanswered) of course.notHiraki's [replacement's] partner and I am a GIRL. You also have tunnel-vision.
Moose is vig-bait, not scum.
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In addition to what I've said before, why have you only passed comment on beefster and not anyone else? What's your view on the moose wagon? I want a wider range of opinions from you...Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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Only a few minutes today, but Beefster is clearly scum; moose is going to be as unhelpful as possible and will shoot bob just because he can regardless of what the town wishes and prove that he is in fact a better VI than shotty; and it actually may not be a big loss. Bob seems pretty dead-set on not lynching beefster, despite his "It's moose or you" statement. Buddies? Possibly. I guess we'll find out.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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This.Beefster wrote:boberz: I don't like your attitude. Christmas is not the deadline. It seems to me like you're trying to push a mislynch.
As far as not providing content, I think I've done just as much as many people, and more than some. Maybe not as much as you, but only moose has managed that.
Why switch the bandwagon from someone who had 5 votes to someone who had 1? How does that make any sense at all? We still have til the 28th to decide. Yes, some people will be V/LA some of those days, but most will be back by the 28th.
@Lat, re:237- Go read 90s Band if you want to know why I worry about quick lynches. And that's just a recent example. I've been in too many games where people don't pay attention and someone accidentally (or intentionally) gets QLed.
I don't see the case on werewolf. Is it based off Hiraki's play? If so, I don't see that case, either.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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You, however, refuse to compromise. And why would you say that the beefster lynch isn't going to happen when he is one of the main candidates? You're very sure of yourself and your ability to boss the town around.boberz wrote:Compromise lynches are the best ones on day1.
I don't have time for a re-read of all the crap that's been spewed just to pick out a few useful nuggets, and I don't think that case you posted is scummier than beefster, so I won't be switching my vote.
Rat's posts hurt me in so many ways. Rat, there's this thing called the "Shift" key. If you like, I can show you how to use it.
*deliberately ignores moose*Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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Moose, stop being such a jerk all the time. Seriously. You need to change the attitude. And don't post when you're drunk.
Moose killing werewolf instead of boberz shows that moose is [potentially] interested in helping the town. Werewolf was a main suspect yesterday, after all. I still hate the attitude and horrible play. SK is definitely a possibility, but not a certainty. FYI, moose is at L-2. Let's be careful here. We still have 20 days before deadline. No point in quick-lynching.
Boberz's vote... um, what?
I need to re-read. I really don't like AntB's last "policy lynch on day 2 is good. Oh yeah, he might be the SK, too" post.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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I was hoping that was the chase, but I've seen stranger things.boberz wrote:My vote was clearly not serious mariyta
/agreeDont mod wifom with the SK v vig stuff.
Also if Moose was oneshot, he cant shoot anymore. I dont recommend a quicklynch.
Off the top of my head, I'm thinking AntB, but I do still need to re-read, which will happen tomorrow during the soccer game.Mariyta, pick somebody other than moose to wagon and Ill go with you. Who?Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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Someone got a bit tipsy on New Year's Eve, eh?boberz wrote:(It isnt I will show it to year at a time when it is not new years eve (no longer))
@AntB: Saying a policy lynch is needed is the same thing as saying it is good [for the town]. There is no misrep in my statement and I have not misrepped anything in this game. I look forward to your case.
For those who keep saying "scum vig," please cease and desist immediately. A vigilante, by definition, cannot be scum.
@Lat: My main suspicion having not re-read comes from post #489 (I think that was the #). Policy lynches, IMO, should come day 1, if at all. They are usually not a good idea in general and lynching someone based on policy on day 2, especially after 3 town deaths, is bad play at best. Plus the "he might be SK" thing bothers me (though AntB wasn't the first to say it, he did hop on that wagon pretty darn easily). In summary, weak reasons to hop on an easy wagon.
Re: Method of Killing- while we shouldn't discount it completely, I don't think we should put a ton of stock into it, either. "Dismembering" could be either town or scum. Heck, look at Dexter. He dismembers people all the time, and he's mostly good.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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Ant_to_the_Max: Seems to use his inexperience as a qualifier to his statements quite a bit. Otherwise, seems to be putting in good effort and comes across mostly town.
AntB: I hate ISO #11. He basically piggy-backs on what others have already said and the "air of scum but nothing to cause concern" does not sit well with me. The first line of ISO #13 terribad. He also gets really defensive and starts attacking Beefster when Beef shows suspicion of him. I've already explained my view on his "policy lynch" on day 2 and the moose tunneling is awful.
@AntB: In many of your posts, you seem to think Moose is just bad town. Why do you want to lynch him despite that? Also, you listed the scum team as Beefster, werewolf, and 'possibly Moose.' Where do you stand now?
Boberz: The attitude today seems a bit... meeker? than yesterday. Aside from that, he seems alright.
Dekes: This man is a genius.
@Dekes: When you get back, does your opinion on Substrike stand?Dekes to Moose wrote:Dude, you really oughta smoke some pot before visiting this site to calm the hell down.
Lateralus: Seems pretty pro-town.
moose: Yeah... I didn't read his ISO.
Mr.Wright/Pappums Rat: Wright seemed fine. Don't like the rat. His call for a modkill on moose was way out of line, not to mention the SK speculation.
Substrike: He owns the patent on MTV (Moose Tunnel Vision). Before doing an ISO, I thought Substrike was scummy. But I didn't find anything conclusive in the ISO, so maybe it's just his tunneling.
The progression of the Moose wagon was/is awful. Not only the people jumping on, but also the reasons people gave jumping off. It's funny that several people (most of whom I currently suspect) keep jumping back on, only to jump off again.
Would someone please be so kind as to point out the post where moose claimed? I can't seem to find it, just allusions to vigness and whatnot. I have more to say on the matter once I see that.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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I totally disagree with calling for a modkill when it's unwarranted, Rat.
I would like moose to fully claim, if others agree, of course. He is the most contentious player in this game and has half-claimed, leaving us to guess the rest. A full claim would help put things into perspective and leave him little wiggle room later on (if he makes it that far).
AntB, as I've already stated, calling for a policy lynch means you think they're good (or helpful, if you don't like using the word good). And I say that calling for a policy lynch on day 2 is not good/helpful and actually borders on scummy. As far as Beefster is concerned, you were not just defending yourself. You were overdefensive.
Are you referring to Boberz and me in this quote? If so, I find that highly entertaining, considering we're the two who find you suspicious. That seems to be a trend with you, doesn't it?AntB wrote:This guy is now reeking of scum, and your aroma isn't much more pleasent.
Anyhoo, moose needs to claim, and AntB or Rat need to die. I like an AntB lynch slightly better.
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First, the overreaction I stated was in regards to your attack on Beefster, not your response to me. This entire post, however, is pretty on edge and you seem to be getting awfully upset over such few votes, especially votes by people you deem as scum. Re: the buddy accusation, it doesn't deserve addressing. "Buddying" is horribly overused. Just because two people agree on something, it doesn't automatically mean they are buddies. If you are referring to his "pick someone and I'll go with it," he already stated he thinks I'm likely town, and it's not uncommon for people to hitch their ponies to someone they deem town.AntB wrote:@Boberz & Mariyta
I want all your evidence on pappums rat, both of you, and all evidence on me. Boberz more because he voted on Mariyta's call.
@Mariyta
Care to show me how I've over-defended? I answered your questions and presented a counter-case.
You also failed to address my buddying accusation.
Moose, insurance likely wouldn't do you any good anyway. It's probably just a virus and you'll get over it in due time. Drink OJ and ginger ale, and get plenty of sleep.
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I've given my opinion on moose several times, and as I didn't re-read, that didn't change and I had nothing new to add.Substrike22 wrote: Post 504, where Mariyta simply refuses to give an opinion on moose via a "yeah, didn't iso" remark. There was an opinion on everyone else there, why not moose as well?
AntB is clearly reaching for reasons to vote boberz. Why don't you just admit you voted him because voting me would be too blatant an OMGUS?
@moose: What are your other trades? NO ONE BUT MOOSE ANSWER THIS, PLEASE.
I'm pretty comfortable with narrowing the scum down to AntB, Rat, Lat, and Max (no, you don't get your name shortened to Ant). Lat, while he has made some decent posts, seems to be coasting, and I can't remember a single important thing Max has said aside from noting his inexperience. It may be possible moose is an SK, but I don't think going after him at this point is worth our while.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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Buddying is only useful after someone flips scum, so if you continue to use that as part of your case, you are going to be horribly disappointed.AntB wrote:the buddying becomes more and more blatent in your defence of boberz and attempting to use the above to discard my vote.
Has anyone noticed the blatant buddying between Rat and AntB, after all the accusations of buddying between me and Bob? It's pretty entertaining.
I'm perfectly happy with a Rat or AntB lynch today, so if you're ready for that Rat lynch, Dekes, count me in.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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Max is really irritating and likely scum, but Rat or AntB are better choices for today.
UNVOTE: AntB, VOTE: Rat Rat wagon, forward ho!!Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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pappums rat wrote:that is one hollow 'case' you have there, it smells more like omgus
I fixed it for you.i have basically called out all three members of the scumteam (boberz, mariyta, and lateralus22)and it's purely coincidence that they all happen to think I'm scum, too.
Rat is so totally scum and anyone not voting him should be flogged.
And I shall say it again:Scumvig is an oxymoron! Vigilantes, by definition, cannot be scum.I don't understand the thought process behind it at all. Are you saying the scum have a designated killer? Or they get two kills a night? It sounds like you're talking about the second option, which would just be wrong (not wrong as in it couldn't happen, but wrong as in it would be horribly unbalanced and unfair to the town). Either way, this is yet another reason for you to die.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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It's been posted, repeatedly. It doesn't really matter if you agree with it or not (clearly, you wouldn't).Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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You really think all three scum would pile on a wagon at the very beginning? Have you played mafia before? With me or boberz? I'm stupid, but notpappums rat wrote:also folks i am now at l-2. just so no one can get away with an 'accidental' quicklynch if these 3 are not the scum.thatstupid. And from what I know of boberz, he's not that dumb, either. I've never played with Lat, but he seems smarter than that. One of us (potentially two, but unlikely) may be scum (doubtful), but not all three. So, Rat darling, which of us are you going to call out as your buddy, hmm?
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I've posted my case against you already. I'm not going to do it again. Go read.pappums rat wrote: when i asked mariyta for the case on me:Mariyta wrote:It's been posted, repeatedly. It doesn't really matter if you agree with it or not (clearly, you wouldn't).
Please point me to the post where you state the case on me. I don't recall ever seeing one, just accusations of buddying, which are laughable at best.i have made my reasons for suspecting these three abundantly clear
Not sure I believe the doc claim, but unless someone is going to CC, I'm not willing to risk a potential doc on D2.
UNVOTE: Rat, VOTE: Substrike
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Actually,AntB wrote:Pappums case on Boberz and Maiyta is agreeable (lack of transparency, refusal to answer questions, D1 bus D2 buddy, etc)
However, The case against Pappums is good. Inconsistency, failure to acknowledge the case on him, unable to track the votes of his attackers (Ialwayskeep track of votes against me...
I'm not even 50% into the doc claim... If Boberz was Obvtown you should have protected him as soon as Moose claimed where his shot was going.
What information could you have pulled from an "Obvtown"s flip?
Sure opinions can change... if they did, why? when?
I also find it odd that the two people you claim are "Obvtown" are now your main suspects..? You seem to be doing the opposite of Boberz/Mayirta... but being a lot more subtle about it...
Pappums Rat wrote:[...] anyone can lie during a claim [...]
UNVOTE: Substrike
VOTE: AntB
This post seems contradictory to the interaction that's taken place between Ant and Rat today. Almost like he's trying to turn the tables now that Rat is/was on the hot seat. Actually a point in Rat's favor.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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I don't see how my behavior toward boberz has changed at all. And I clearly can't speak for his behavior change, as I'm not him.AntB wrote:What about between you and Boberz D1 and D2? That's about as contradictory in behaviours you can get as you can get!
I re-read your post, and decided it was more vote worthy than what Substrike has done.Also considering there's almost an hour and half between my post and yours, surely you would've just cut the crap and gone straight back to voting me?
I'm actually tempted to believe Rat's reasoning for not protecting boberz. It fits well with the rest of his thought processes. Scum don't usually come up with a scenario behind who they didn't protect and why, so I'm willing to believe he's probably a doc. That, however, is not necessarily indicative of alignment, but it means he's not the lynch for today. So let's get with the AntB lynchin'.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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Sorry I disappeared yesterday. Lost internet and they didn't get it hooked up for four days. Stupid people. Anyway, my access is no longer limited, so that will no longer be an issue. Great job on the Substrike wagon. 683 and 691 are fun.
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I wasn't as convinced about him as I was/am about you. Nice try, though.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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Moose, who did you get an innocent on? If you already posted and I missed it, I apologize.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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Cool. And I think moose is pretty much confirmed after this and his kill on werewolf, plus Substrike's attack on him.
I'm going to re-read tomorrow (hopefully). After AntB, I'm not sure where to go.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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Don't forget the change in attitude day 2.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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Dekes, darling, I'm a woman. I'm never wrong. But those are very beautiful.
Ant's attack on Lat is completely baseless and ridiculous. I hate it when people expect others to be on the game at all times. Not everyone is near a computer 24/7 (I am now, but that's beside the point. ) And the comment about posting late at night? Seriously, Ant, get off it. Find some real reasons or leave the guy alone. Why don't you just lynch me? I go to bed at 9pm most nights. Apparently that's a lynchable offense.
Scum has been backed into a corner and is starting to grow desperate. I shall re-read today to find his final buddy (assuming there are 3 as usual).
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That's L-1. Please no quick hammers, folks.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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I agree. A Lat/AntB scum team is pretty much out at this point.
I think an Ant/boberz team is still a possibility because of this. Yesterday, bussing was ok because no scum had been hit. Today, bussing your buddy would be tantamount to suicide, especially with a target as big as Ant has on his back already. My money is on an Ant/boberz team, or an Ant/Dekes team (sorry Dekes, but you mentioned that Ant_Max was on Substrike early yesterday, so I don't really see them being buddies).Dekes wrote: I'm more interested in the fact that AntB completely dropped boberz after having him as a main suspect yesterday. Part of Ant's case on Lat is a lack of activity but he ignored the fact that boberz hadn't posted at all at that point. Ant even considers attacking ATTM (while not wanting to call him scum o_O) over boberz today. Doesn't make any sense until you take Sub's lynch into account.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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I knew you'd ask me that. I think you're ballsy enough to take a risk like that. You held your own quite well in the last game we were in together and had me completely fooled. I think an Ant/Boberz team is more likely, but I can't rule you out completely. I've also been rethinking my stance on Max. I still need to do a re-read, but not sure if it will happen today, as I still need to write 2000 words for my novel.Dekes wrote:@Mariyta
So, let me get this straight:
You say, bussing today would be detrimental play as a scum team and yet you see the possibility of an AntB/me scum team?
You say, ATTM and Substrike can't be buddies because ATTM was early on Substrike, but you see the possibility of a Substrike/me scum team, although I was having Sub by the balls since D1 and pushed hard for his (the scum watcher no less, likely the bost role they have) lynch D2 when everyone else was ready to ignore his scummy play and where I could've easily pushed an AntB or a boberz lynch instead?
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So, since AntB claims no power to claim, we can safely assume he's a goon, right? Shall the lynch commence? I'd happily use the night to re-read and determine the next lynch candidate.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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Your "notes" mean nothing. When I play as scum, I try to think like I'm town when I'm actually in the game. I even do the notes thing.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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Ya know, I'm going to UNVOTE: AntB for now. I get this unsettling feeling that remaining scum might be sitting there laughing at me. I'm going to re-read later today.
Also, I think it's mass claim time. We've already outted moose, and AntB has claimed VT (yes, I knew you were claiming VT and not goon). At this point, I don't see any reason to keep the rest of the roles hidden.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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Alright. I don't have time to re-read right now, so let's get this over with.
VOTE: AntB
And Dekes, do not call me honey. Darling, dear, sweetie, and schmoopsy poo are all still acceptable, though.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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Interesting little interaction there between boberz and AntB...
UNVOTE: AntB
I do want to re-read before we end this day. I fear I'm missing something crucial. Has anyone played with AntB before?Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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No. The comment about how we still have a week and a half til deadline caused an unvote. I realized it's stupid to waste that time and rush into a lynch without re-reading.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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There is never a reason for town to self-hammer. If you truly are town, you are worth more alive than dead (I say you generically, not pointed at AntB).Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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Literally. You, boberz, and Dekes. But you forgot the female.AntB wrote:Can we get moose and AttM prodded as well? Its a 3-man game so far activity wise...Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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Schmoopsy poo is one of the names used in Monsters Inc.Dekes wrote:Gotcha. Any particular reason why schmoopsy poo over honey?
And did you find anything interesting so far during your re-read? It's getting a bit stale here with Lateralus, moose and ATTM only popping in once in a while.
I haven't done a re-read yet, but I did analyze some VCs. Substrike's vote wasn't particularly useful as he tunneled moose hardcore. Ant_Max was on AntB for a good part of the first day before switching to the main wagon of the day. AntB followed Substrike to the moose wagon and stuck there most of D1, aside from a brief unvote before putting his vote right back, then jumping on the Beefster wagon at the tail end of the day.
D2, Substrike tunnels again and AntB goes after boberz. Max waits six days to vote, then jumps on Substrike, where he remained for the rest of the day. (I'm tempted to rule out Max as scum for this, but I'm not doing so just yet.) AntB avoided the wagon entirely and boberz jumped on right at the end, just like he did with Beefster.
D3, AntB starts out voting me, avoiding his main target from yesterday, while boberz hops on him.
The problem with all this is that I'm assuming AntB is scum. I need to analyze the rest of it, but I need to go to bed right now. Hopefully I'll get time tomorrow.
P-edit: One quick note- Lat was on Substrike a lot D1, so I'm tempted to rule him out as scum, too. I'm leaning toward boberz at this moment.
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What do you think, Dekes? Bob or AntB? We lynch wrong today, it's LyLo tomorrow.
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I forgive you. The RL monster is pure evil and he gets us all. Are you scum?Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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Aww, nuts. I don't get to call you Scumhero this game. Oh well. Please don't punch your mirror. 7 years bad luck and all that.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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Haven't done a full re-read. I know, I suck, I'm sorry. Hopefully tomorrow.
Substrike comments: Throws out suspicion of boberz w/o following through with it. He also claimed to watch boberz. This could either be to throw suspicion onto boberz, or an attempt to clear him.
This is interesting. I can see him throwing one of his buddies in the list.I don't understand why there are 4 people on [Hiraki's] wagon with no one looking at Mari, AntB, or Dekes, all of whom are scummier
People I'm ruling out as scum for today: moose, Antihero (based on Lat's hardcore riding of Substrike). I'll throw Max into this list, too.
People I think are likely scum: boberz, AntB. I'm actually becoming more suspicious of boberz the more I read. Two hammer votes, one on scum. He has been on AntB all day today, but that may just be because he sees it as his only shot at staying alive. WIFOM can be as helpful as it is hurtful. Dekes could also be scum. I like how Substrike's vote moved to him for about 14 hours before moving back to moose.
Dekes, in #562, you call AntB town. What changed your mind?
Antihero, what do you think of Dekes?
I think boberz might actually be the lynch for today. Thoughts?Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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And don't forget the two (That's 2) hammer votes.Antihero wrote:I'm not sure what's so stupid about max's last comment.
Here, let me articulate what I don't like about you: you actively detracted from a scumwagon and promoted a really poorly founded vote.
I hope this is sarcasm. With the way things are now, we need to lynch correctly today, so analyzing all the options (which you apparently refuse to do) is essential. I realize you've been sick or whatever, but you've also been combative and unhelpful all game. Also, Antihero is not the first one to post a case against you. Hes just the first one to say "Here's the case against you."boberz wrote:Setting up suggested lnches for potential lylo is a shocking idea.
@Dekes: Part of it is probably that, yes. But part of it is also that I see potential connections, and you're a good player. I can't rule you out, but you're not top of my suspect list. As for Lat, he was essentially AWOL for quite awhile, so I'm not weighing D2 as heavily.
After boberz comments today, and his apparent refusal to participate in lynching anyone but AntB, I think I prefer him for today's lynch. AntB will clearly go along with it. Antihero, Dekes, what say you?
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Lying bugger? God, I love Brits. Anyway, when did I say we were in LyLo? I didn't. I said we need to lynch right today. So we're NOT in LyLo tomorrow. I like how you call us all crap, yet refuse to do anything to further the town's cause. You refuse to analyze anyone but AntB, and now you're taking your toys and going home, rather than doing anything useful, like explaining why it's not AH or Dekes, or explaining why it's "probs" Max.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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How is not giving your opinions on people "pro-town"? Especially when we're having such a hard time figuring out who to lynch? If you want to keep your opinions to yourself, fine, but don't expect us to just assume you are town when you're doing nothing to promote that.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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Dekes, when did you vote Lat/Antihero?Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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Alright. I'm content with an AntB lynch today, and Max or boberz tomorrow. Shall I place the hammer or wait for moose's replacement?Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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Here's a nice bit of WIFOM for ya. If Max is scum and Ant is town, he could have hammered and put us in LyLo tomorrow, but he didn't. It could be that he just didn't think of it, but it's something to think about. I also think we should wait for moose's replacement. Boberz insistence on ending this day before the replacement comes makes me very uneasy.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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Fuck it. I'm tired of the attitude and the constant accusations that I'm "misrepping" when I point out flaws in his play. He's scum and I'm happier lynching him than AntB.
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Welcome, Xtoxm. We look forward to your fresh insight.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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