Mini 1082 (Guns and Ropes: Midland): An Unfaithful Ending.

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So like, I was supposed quit this game completely but man I couldn't resist replacing in during Lylo is it into a claimed Sk? That's awsome.

Anyway I take it's impossible for me to win considering if I get all the scum for you guys I die afterwards amright? Ps: I'm naturally biased towards town, I also think DH is a pretty awesome dude.

Anyway, will read up with notes and everything later on. I look forward to lynching scum.

PS: Someone give me a cliff note version of the game, it'll give you town points.

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Quick note. I'm assuming 2:1:9 is the the most common setup with an Sk meaning two scum no? (Ps, keep your votes where they are, I like em there =p)

Btw, can someone give me a list of all the claims?

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I see, Rice & DH who are those two scum? It's rather bold for the scum team to team up together at a time like this no?

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Rice give your opinion on the top two wagons please or I will turn this lynch on you regardless of whether I read the thread or not. I can do cool stuff like that now =p

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Actually.

DH & LMP please give me a summary of your contributions towards this game along with the bullet point case on each other.

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Page 7 Atm, can someone tell me why the hell Rice is town btw?

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And why are we ruling out Scum-Tracker?

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Day 1

Rabies #30: Neutral. Don't like the vote on me nor him getting all sappy sorry. I like the tone though.

Macavity #33: *Raises eyebrows*, He's talking about his own personal belief regarding sarcasm and how it could be a possible issue in the game, he even gave a semi-serious reason too!

Macavity #51: What's with the whole every vote has it's purpose speech when you aren't probing others who made useless votes?

moose #61: This doesn't feel right. Recent encounters with moose have shown he doesn't like voting at all. He just sits there.

LMP #68: +Scum points

Rabies #83: Why does this guy keep reading neutral? +Town for Proactivity, +Scum for the poor reasoning at the end.

Riceballtail #86: Why didn't you guys policy lynch this guy on Day 1? Why is this guy sliding under the radar?

Macavity #119: I iz asking pointing questions, that'll get em to think I'm town amright?

Rabies #168: Starting to read as newbie town, but wtf, why do you want him to make up crap for the sake of being original?

Macavity #182: Unfortunately, he makes some good points. But why the lack of focus on gonnano, trying to stay off the current popular town wagon eh?

Rabies #207: Don't like the condescending lecture about how he's so pro about not being lectured. Feels like he's trying to discredit him.

LMP #214: Mhm? You got pissed at moose for ignoring your questions but now you're ignoring the answer Enigma gave you?

LMP #223: Watch me as I put on my tin foil hat and Wizard robes. Those innocent townies won't notice I'm ignoring Enigma reply while pushing forth a theory on someone I don't even have a vote on! No, an FoS doesn't cut it when you're that insistent.

Rabies #347: Well, you're a hypocrite. You berated someone for being condescending earlier yet you do so yourself and you continue to mudsling in order to discredit.

Conclusion

: Why the fuck are you all so scummy? Order of preference Rice > Macavity/LMP > DH > moose. There is something wrong with my reads though, and I don't like it. There's something off about Rabie's play, every time I want to label him as obv town he fucks up and puts himself back into the scum section of my mind. I will rage if moose is scum.

Will do the rest of the days later.

PS DH, give me that bullet point case plz.

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What did LMP & Macavity fake claim?

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Macavity/LMP who are you framing as DH's scum buddy again?

I'm gonna go ahead an assume Rice is confirmed Town Atm via his claim unless something extremely important shows up. And We're not lynching me since I'm the king. I don't fee like lynching Rat either atm.

So that leaves the lynch pool as <LMP - Macavity - DH>

Seriously, what are both your cases? I'm skimming the recent pages and a lot of the shit here is pretty weak.

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Btw Mac/LMP please give a full analysis on each other.

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Man, he has been on my case the whole game, why would he not check me?

vote riceballtail Obv maf is Obv.

Moose is absolutely right, Rice was on moose's back the whole game. Normally I'm of the opinion that scum bus bus bus and distance the shit out of each other but if I apply that theory to this game the ONLY scum team possible would be Rice/moose. However, Rice is cleared, meaning that the opposite of my usual theory must be true then. Look at the early wagons, there is hardly any distancing at all. The only case of possible distancing Day 1 would be LMP towards Macavity vis RV and towards moose for "pressuring". That would be as weak as hell distancing. So in conclusion, Scum are ignoring one another and sliding along when there's so many much tasty lynch bait for the picking. The fact that there's a two man scum team solidifies this theory.

Problem is, ATM all the other scum candidates can easily pair up with one another.

Enigima

(3): Rabies, MacavityLock,

StrangerCoug

jimfinn

(3):

Mizzy, ProkhorZakharov, Enigima

Rabies (1):

gonnano

gonnano

(3):

charter

, moose200x, LynchMePls

charter

(1):

jimfinn

StrangerCoug

(1): Riceballtail

Mhm, pretty neat stuff. Assuming Town moose LMP gets scum points for this one.

moose200x (1):

gonnano

jimfinn

(2): MacavityLock,

ProkhorZaharov

Mizzy

(1):

Enigma

gonnano

(7): moose200x, LynchMePls,

charter

, Riceballtail,

StrangerCoug

, Rabies,

jimfinn

Not Voting (1):

Mizzy

Ah how cool. Interesting note about Macavity. He enjoys long walks on the beach and spends his free time tunneling on poor townies who aren't even going to get lynched. What do I think? He was intentionally stay away from the larger wagons, the only decent sized one he was on was Enigma. But note here, he

doesn't

agree with the gonnano wagon? Why the hell weren't you being pro-active trying to stop it? You barely did anything. DH is scummy by association here too for selective reasoning. Actually, Macavity intentionally avoiding the gonnano wagon makes perfect sense when he doesn't want to be seen chain sawing for his scum buddy.

Note: Around page #30ish atm. Feel like voting Macavity.

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Quick Question, what the hell are the full claims for the Doc and the Tracker? I think I can get another confirmed innocent out of those.

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Doc Results

N1: Mizzy saved lmp night 1 (Does Nothing)
N2: I saved ML night 2 (Blocked SK kill)
N3: DH (There was no kill N3?) (Enigma didn't send in an action) <----- IMPORTANT
N4: ???? (No kill this night)

Possibilities (No kill N3)

1. Scum No killed
2. Scum tried to kill DH
3. Scum tried to kill me.

So. DH is 50/50 town. Not bad. I think I'm leaning towards the town side on him.

Tracker Results

N1: Moose did nothing N1
N2: Enigma did nothing N2
N3: Tracked DH no result.
N4: ????
N5: ????

Someone fill in these gaps please.

SK Results

I was rb'ed N1
I failed to kill N2
I Did nothing N3
I was rb'ed N4?
I was rb'ed N5

No kills Day 3&4 mhm...

Assuming the missing results go well together, DH is most semi-confirmed town. So we can interchange him with Rat changing our scum candidates to Mac/LMP/Rat. Best part is the rest of us are pretty much close to confirmed non-scum, while DH and moose are semi cleared for not being at the crime scene.

Which begs the question. Macavity...Why are the fuck are you voting DH again?

PS: Really, these gaps do need to be filled.

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Wait, I can't seem to find Rice's results for N4 & N5 anywhere? Am I missing something, why was he not questioned on this?

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How does DH 50/50 town follow from N3 actions? How does DH being a kill target in 1 of 3 scenarios make him 50/50 town?

I do not believe scum no-killed N3. That's sub-optimal play. So either Scum tried to kill Enigma or they tried to kill me. 50/50

RBT Tracked Enigma N4 to Rob, Tracked Enigma N5 to no one. Both of these Tracks are failures on RBT's part, as we already knew that Enigma was going to kill both nights. (N4, he had an even night vig claim out. By N5 he had claimed scum.

Thank you, you have eased my fear of Rice. Those results are correct.

Enigma didn't say anything about missing his N3 kill, in fact he claimed a kill.

I don't care. If he said that he was lying, the mod clearly told he didn't submit an action.

RBT claimed "No Result" on DH N3, as distinct from "He Did Not Go Anywhere". I specifically questioned him on this. This suggests that RBT was RBed that night, and DH is not confirmed.

I see, but I still place faith in the doctor result. Do you think scum tried to kill me? Also what is your case on DH? Why haven't you give me an analysis of LMP nor a case on DH?

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RBT Tracked Enigma N4 to Rob, Tracked Enigma N5 to no one. Both of these Tracks are failures on RBT's part, as we already knew that Enigma was going to kill both nights. (N4, he had an even night vig claim out. By N5 he had claimed scum.

Wait, no, this is wrong. Enigma attempted to kill Rob but failed due to external reasons. Enigma attempted to kill Rice N5 but failed due to external reasons. How could he get a tracker result on when Enigma tried to kill Rob but not Rice?

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Wait nvm. Even if I was Rb'ed I still show up as a result but when HE gets rb'ed he gets no result no? Is that what you mean by he tracked Enigma to no one? Otherwise that doens't make sense.

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I agree, something doesn't make sense here. As far as I knew, if you get RB'ed, if RBT Tracked you, he would Track you to nowhere. However, if he got RB'ed, he would get a "No Result" that night. It seems to me like you're saying that RBT's N4 and N5 claims contradict. That is, N4 you claim blocked, but he Tracked you somewhere, while N5 you claim blocked, but he Tracked you nowhere. Is this what I'm hearing?

Yeah, I think. The Doctor part concerns me too since essentially a Doc protect/a role block should give the same result to him. So let me get this straight...

If Doc protected = No Where (N2 Track)
If He is RB'ed = No Result (N3 Track)
If I am RB'ed = Tracked me to Rob? (Wtf?) No Where N5? (wtf?)

N4 & 5 Don't match up, nor do they go with the doctor claim. Therfor, scum. Also tracking me N4 & N5 makes no sense. Is there any errors in this Mac/DH?

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Note: All my failed kills were due to

external reasons

, I really think we should lynch Rice instead guys.

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I'm assuming it just means anything really, like it's a bigger category for reasons why my kills failed. I'm assuming the Doc protect and me being Rb'ed fall into that category.

Will you help me lynch Rice?

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1. Yeah
2. Yeah

Why does this matter?

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Unvote;
Vote: Riceballtail

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FFS I am the SK, if you lynch me, town loses. Rice is pretty scum confirmed scum who slipped up his story. Therfor you vote him.

What's the problem, you scum?

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Because I'm not, simple as that. Whatever, take your time. I'm not very patient though.

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DH, will you follow towards a Rice lynch?

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Game balance doesn't matter,

Rice contradicted himself, therfor scum. In-Game actions come before game balance when we don't even know if that's the certain way to balance the game.

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Are there any other crazy roles allowed in mini normals that'd mess up with the night actions?

Preview: Excellent.

Now we'll know if scum is already on this wagon or the wagon is on scum.

Preview: Mac, it's the same difference really.

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And what if you're maf? I didn't think you were, but you could be. Why can't I have some time?

Unvote;

How'd that reread go?

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Ah Fuck it, there's no way he's town.

Vote: RBT

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Unvote

Wait a sec...

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DH/I are both not scum... so why didn't scum hammer LMP? Anyone think It's Rice/LMP?

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Meh. Tired of going back and forth. Rice's results over LMP's scummy play.

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Vote: RBT

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AHAHAHAHAHAHA

Confirmed scum is found. Don't worry keep pushing suspicion on me. Go on, while you're at it who's my non-existant scum buddy too?

Yes, Enigma tried to kill Rob but failed, the point is that your exact results don't match up.

I'm definitely leaning that there are only two scum, and Later is trying to make stuff up to get a mislynch on me, using his "confirmed" SK status again. Enigma is a better player than that to have just rolled over and not pushed me to a lynch with anything he had. He was constantly trying to get me dead, but if he had such solid evidence, he would have brought it forth.

I barely know anything that Enigma did, but man he just gave up when no one listened to him. He pointed out your results were a hot mess (Yes he did lie but hey, can you blame the guy?) but I figured he just wanted to get the game over with.

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unvote

Then what the hell is wrong with my results? I don't think DH is scum but eh >.>

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Why was I rb'ed instead of you?

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Rice N5, failed due to external reasons.

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I don't understand why the results are mixed up. If Rice is scum then it's with DH but I don't think DH is scum.

Regardless, it seems I'm at a dead end. There is literally no chance for me to win this unless we get scum and you guys are cool letting me lynch scum in a three man lylo eh?

DH, I'm willing to go back to LMP/Mac. Lets get this over with.

Vote: LMP

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because I'm really fucking confused. DH can't be scum, he can't. If he is, then everything makes perfect sense and we got the scum team right there.

"Shrugs"

My results do not lead to Rice scum ONLY if,

A) The mod is a twat who uses weird flavor/wording when describing actions.
B) The mod gave mistakenly gave me incorrect information.

Unvote

Yeah >.> Problem is I'm not convinced of DH scum, if you can do that then everything is fine. So you wanna give me that bullet point case/why I should pick your side? I'm not looking through your Iso.

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Note that considering options A&B isn't what's holding me back, but my lack of faith in DH scum.

Preview Edit: Will read Rat's reply later.

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I am starting to get sick of this too, Rat please place down a vote and I'll consider sheeping you instead of DH or Mac.

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^DH was is this guy town again?

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Mod: Is 2 Scum vs 1 Town and SK a Mafia win?

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I really don't want LMP to win this game.

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I don't feel like it now atm, I want Mac or someone else to vote him so I can rub my confirmed Sk-ness in Rice's face.

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Wait, from Rice's POV this isn't lylo and he won't care if I don't hammer. >.>

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Only two scum teams possible = Rice/DH and Mac/LMP

LMP does not deserve to win with that defeatist attitude, it is also incredibly anti-town of him to ignore the Lat vs Rice debate.

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If the setup becomes two scum 1 SK/1 Town

then what happen tomorrow? A no lynch then the setup become 2 Scum vs 1 SK and I take it scum then win?

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Oh bleh, of course Mac isn't going to vote LMP nor is stubborn Rice >.>

Vote: LMP

Someone hammer.

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If Rice doesn't hammer though DH and he are confirmed town so it's cool. Rice please don't be a twat and draw out the game though if you're scum.

But if LMP is scum we can force him to bus

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Force Mac that is

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Can't believe I'm not trying to lynch someone who I have a guilty result on because his possible partner looks kinda town, in retrospect this is probably very stupid >.>

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RBT tracked me, and RBT is basically confirmed town at this point; she saw me doing nothing.

Mhm, lying now are we? Rice didn't get a result when he tracked you.

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mhm. If Rat doesn't turn around Rice/DH scum can have their win, it's not like I could win anyway.

Hopefully I'm wrong.

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mhm. If Rat doesn't turn around Rice/DH

scum

can have their win, it's not like I could win anyway.

Hopefully I'm wrong.

mhm

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Seriously, TELL ME WHY DH IS SCUM AND WHY I SHOULD LET LAZY LMP WIN THIS GAME.

Unvote

Rice & DH scum get their win if you can't convince me. No you're not allowed my claim, use day play examples.

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No I won't be looking through your Iso.

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Mac are you really so uninterested in winning the game? I'll give you head start, make a case on this post and work backwards,

Maybe I am wrong then, I remembered it as RBT seeing that I didn't go anywhere. It was a long time ago. If I'm wrong, I apologize. You are right in thinking that it's either RBT and I (which I 100% know it isn't, because I know I'm a VT) or LMP and Lock/Rat. That's the point I'm trying to reinforce.

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Mac you're too slow for me, hopefully there's just some mix up in my results >.>

Vote: LMP

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Because it doesn't make sense for Rice-Scum not to hammer DH-Town.

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Ps, I won't be removing my vote unless the I see the bullet point case,

so time is of the essence, you better hurry up before Rice scum hammers~

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Seriously Mac, it's not that hard, all I'm asking of you is,

1. Show some decent ORIGINAL evidence that DH is scum
2. Tell me why I should let LMP and you win when you're both incredible lazy
3. Then convince Rat-Town to vote

Seriously, this'll take you like 15 minutes tops.

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http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p2754582

MAC WHY THE FUCK DO YOU CONTINUE TO DEFY ME? IT IS NOT OPTIMAL PLAY TO OBSESS OVER MY CLAIM REGARDLESS OF WHATEVER ALIGNMENT YOU ARE.

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It is not obvious because if DH is town then my results are messed up somehow. Meaning you convince me of DH scum. That is the first step, should be easy eh?

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unvote

mhm. very interesting.

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If Rat switches to Rice I will follow, if not I'll return to LMP. The game is 100% in his hands now.

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This choice stems from me,

A) Being fucking sick of all you being so freaken lazy
B) Fear that Rice probably is going to quick hammer so I'm letting the most probable townie who's vote is NEEDED for a rice lynch to decide everything.
C) Why the fuck is LMP not voting Rice then?

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So Basically LMP is needed to make the obvious Rice vote, Rice should vote LMP because me I won't fucken get lynched and a switching to Mac over LMP is pointless.

That'll leave,

3 LMP
2 Rice

Rat'll have the honor of lynching LMP OR voting Rice so I can hammer?

So alls fair eh? Only slight complication is Rice being a twat and fussing over Mac over LMP so we can make that slight adjustment since Mac feels like whining.

But in the end, someone who we ALL think is townie decided the game. So, there shouldn't be any objections to that.

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Say /yes if you agree to my master plan so we can all be fucking organized and finish this.

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Wait no that's wrong, it should be

Voting LMP/MAC: Rice & DH
Voting Rice: Mac & LMP

Therfor whoever Rice chooses gets lynch, assuming he wants to rethink his Scum candidate. 0% of scum quick hammer unless for whatever odd reason you think I'm scum with Rat. 100% chance of letting a townie/non-scum decide the game.

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Yeah, I think. The Doctor part concerns me too since essentially a Doc protect/a role block should give the same result to him. So let me get this straight...

If Doc protected = No Where (N2 Track)
If He is RB'ed = No Result (N3 Track)
If I am RB'ed = Tracked me to Rob? (Wtf?) No Where N5? (wtf?)

N4 & 5 Don't match up, nor do they go with the doctor claim. Therfor, scum. Also tracking me N4 & N5 makes no sense. Is there any errors in this Mac/DH?

RAT REREAD THIS POST AND LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU THINK. <-------Super important for your decision.

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DH Please follow Rice or convince him to vote LMP/that I'm the SK so we get the first fucken step of Lat's master plan done.

LMP please vote Rice.

Then, it's is time for judgement day Rat

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Personally, I kinda fucking deserve to win this assuming we lynch scum. Seriously, I

earned

this.

But then again, the LMP/Mac preference is kinda up to your scum buddy so you should probably ask him.

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^Ah you were asking him, nvm.

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By the way, Lat, when are we getting that hydra together?

Someday, I was supposed to quit but maybe a hydra will help >.> You wanna replace into a mini 13 person some time? Anytime would be Awsome.

i really hate that the pressure is largely on me to decide who to lynch, as if i am wrong the scum will win and the game will be over and i will have put the final nail in the coffin for everyone who has been playing this game all these months. but at this point i think the scumteam is lmp and ml. i think lmp is more likely to be scum though, and i seriously doubt that my vote will move.

Sorry, I am intentionally putting all this pressure on you because it's hilarious/an out to take pressure away from myself/I actually need you to help me win.

That said this quote seriously affirms Rat-Town btw. Scum Rat would be like lolz ok guiz and pick the townie to lynch and there'd be nothing I could do about it. I kinda doubt Rat would be clever enough have to some other giant elaborate plan in mind with this.

i really dont know tbh. the night results is something that has me very confused, and i think they could easily be faked by either party. did rbt respond to this whole mess? i dont have time to find it atm. i would be willing to switch to rbt if i can be convinced that she is scum. in my mind either she or lmp are definately scum.

I am the SK. If I lynch a townie today I lose. Therfor, no motivation to do so. I'm I'm scum, then it's still stupid for me to lie about my results since I'll make me the 100% lynch tomorrow. Regardless of anything a miss lynch will lead to, 2 Scum/1 Town/1 SK tomorrow. Either I get lynched 100% tomorrow or scum'll no lynch to get their win. Either way it is safer play to assume I'm telling the truth because you won't ever get a chance like this again while my future death is VERY possible if I'm scum.

Btw I asked the mod if there were any errors with my results and he said there were none.

Why can't it be DH/RBT scum?

Oh but if it is from your POV. VC analysis kinda points to DH/Mac but lulz my results/Rice not hammering DH 100% confirms they are both town or both scum. So. We'll be lynching Rice instead because my results say so.

Holy shit. It was Lock, not you.

Unvote, Vote: Lock

QFT

You should be voting Rice then so we can continue with my master plan no?

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PS: Mac this time you'll have to convince Rat to pick Rice over YOU, so I kinda doubt screaming my results will change HIS mind, but actual content might.

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Holy shit. It was Lock, not you.

Unvote, Vote: Lock

Where did he say that btw? If it turns out you're lying Rat just might agree to lynch Rice

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shhhh it makes me look good when I point out obv townies, now hurry up and vote Rice plz because DH isn't going to get lynched today.

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DH, there's another problem. If Rice really is town and we lynch scum today, he'll be an idiot and try to kill me tomorrow.

Preview Edit: Excellent, See Mac? Cooperation is pro-

Lat

Town

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RBT Tracked Enigma N4 to Rob, Tracked Enigma N5 to no one. Both of these Tracks are failures on RBT's part, as we already knew that Enigma was going to kill both nights. (N4, he had an even night vig claim out. By N5 he had claimed scum.

Wait, no, this is wrong. Enigma attempted to kill Rob but failed due to external reasons. Enigma attempted to kill Rice N5 but failed due to external reasons. How could he get a tracker result on when Enigma tried to kill Rob but not Rice?

Why are we suddenly believing this? If I had lied about my result, why wouldn't Enigma have said so much earlier? Enigma clearly sent a kill to Rob. If I had, in fact, lied about it, why wouldn't Enigma call me out on it much sooner?

I'm definitely leaning that there are only two scum, and Later is trying to make stuff up to get a mislynch on me, using his "confirmed" SK status again. Enigma is a better player than that to have just rolled over and not pushed me to a lynch with anything he had. He was constantly trying to get me dead, but if he had such solid evidence, he would have brought it forth.

Unvote; Vote:Later

Definitely not an SK. Lynch this liar.

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The post deleted was spam-material. Please do not do this again (I'm referring to everyone, not just Lateralus22) ~ Super Smash Bros. Fan

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The votes are in place, judgement day is upon us

What will you do Rat, vote the townie and lose it all? Vote the scum and save that little bit of hope that's left for the town?

mwahahahahaha

Mod: Vote count plus flavor plz

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^This post is actually really scummy btw. Town DH would be all

shit, Rice stop being fucken stupid, can't you see, Lat isn't the scum for thee?

, but no, Scum-DH doesn't have to do anything since Town-Mac will get miss lynched and they'll win.

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Hey DH, Can YOU tell me what's wrong with my results and why they don't lead to Rice-Scum?

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^Side stepping away from what my actual questions is also very scummy. What the hell is the proof

I

need to hear that your scum buddy isn't really scum? I don't need to convince you that you're scum, you DO need to convince ME that you're not.

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No, set up speculation doesn't count.

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Because In-Game actions > Set up, for all we know our mod could have done a fail job at balancing/we're thinking about the set up wrong.

I need you to tell ME why Rice's results contradict.

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What the hell do governors even do?

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Why. Do. Rice's. Results. Contradict.

FFS

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Yeah, I think. The Doctor part concerns me too since essentially a Doc protect/a role block should give the same result to him. So let me get this straight...

If Doc protected = No Where (N2 Track)
If He is RB'ed = No Result (N3 Track)
If I am RB'ed = Tracked me to Rob? (Wtf?) No Where N5? (wtf?)

N4 & 5 Don't match up, nor do they go with the doctor claim. Therfor, scum. Also tracking me N4 & N5 makes no sense. Is there any errors in this Mac/DH?

RAT REREAD THIS POST AND LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU THINK. <-------Super important for your decision.

N4 & N5 Contradict/flavor for N2 doesn't go with N4. Answer this question correctly and you both get to fuckin live, it's as simple as that.

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Rice lurking btw reflects poorly on both of you considering your fates are tied together.

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Riceeeeeeeeeeeeeee you have some explaining to do!

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How did you know Rice was a girl?

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I feel kinda bored, Anyone wanna play the WIFOM game and find out the motivs for all the kills? +Town points for anyone who entertains me with such.

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Mod:

Assume Tracker A tracks SK B, SK B tries to Kill Townie C but Townie C was Doc protected. What result would Tracker A receive?

What if Tracker A tracks SK B and he is rb'ed, what result will Tracker A receive?

[Lateralus22]

Mod:

Assume Tracker A tracks SK B, SK B tries to Kill Townie C but Townie C was Doc protected. What result would Tracker A receive?

What if Tracker A tracks SK B and he is rb'ed, what result will Tracker A receive?

[Lateralus22]

SK B is the one who is rb'ed btw. Also if Tracker A is rb'ed what result would HE see?

[Lateralus22]

In this scenario, Tracker A would track SK B to Townie C, although it will not specify what SK B tried to do with Townie C.

Interesting, this means that I was RB'ed on Night 2. Was Enigma really that obvious as an SK? >.>

Tracker A would not receive a result as SK B did not successfully kill his target.

AND.... this 100% confirms Rice as lying since he shouldn't have seen me in my failed attempt to kill Rob.

Kay. We can kill Rice now. Rat would you like the honors?

Vote: Rice

[Lateralus22]

Going into tonight

Lateralus22

LynchMePls*

pappums rat

DemonHybrid

MacavityLock

Since DH will be confirmed scum upon Rice's flip... one of Rat/LMP/Mac will die. Assuming so the setup will probably be

IF I'm RB'ed

,

Lateralus22

LynchMePls/Rat

DemonHybrid

MacavityLock/Rat

3 to Lynch, however DH if you RB me you most certainly lose, either you get lynched or I get lynched. As the town will want to lynch you so the game'll become 1 SK/2 Town If I'm lynched that'll leave something like this on the next day afterwards,

(Going into the night)

LynchMePls/Rat

DemonHybrid

MacavityLock/Rat

(Coming into the Day)

DemonHybrid

MacavityLock

So lynching me tomorrow is a scum win! Which is EXACTLY why town won't lynch me and turn on

YOU

.

Therfor DH you should NOT RB me and the setup will be something like this tomorrow.

Lateralus22

LynchMePls/MacavityLock/Rat

DemonHybrid

We can figure out what to do later eh? And intentionally Cross killing is equal to RB'ing, and I have a feeling the town is fed up with the amount of Town deaths as of late, so I doubt they'd be merciful to the one who's been lying to them all along.

Either way, we'll find out when Rat hammers.

[Lateralus22]

Lateralus22
LynchMePls
pappums rat
Riceballtail
DemonHybrid
MacavityLock

RAT LOOK AT THIS. THE PLAYER LIST. STILL THINK I'M SCUM? Let's pretend I am for a sec,

If I'm scum all I had to do was miss lynch a townie and I would have won.

Lateralus22
LynchMePls
pappums rat
DemonHybrid
MacavityLock

THERE IS NO BULLET PROOF OR TOWN ROLE BLOCKER

Coming into the Day =

Lateralus22
LynchMePls
DemonHybrid
MacavityLock

2 Scum vs 2 Town, scum win right there.

VC

Riceballtail (2): Engima, LynchMePls
DemonHybrid (1): MacavityLock
MacavityLock (2): DemonHybrid, Riceballtail

Can't be scum with LMP since we could just hammer Mac for the win.

VC

Riceballtail (1): Engima
DemonHybrid (2): MacavityLock, LynchMePls
MacavityLock (2): DemonHybrid, Riceballtail

Can't be scum with Rice since we just hammer DH for the win.

VC

Lateralus22 (1): Riceballtail
LynchMePls (2): pappums rat, DemonHybrid
Riceballtail (1): MacavityLock
DemonHybrid (1): LynchMePls

Not Voting (1): Lateralus22

Can't be scum with Mac since we can just hammer LMP for the win.

VC

Riceballtail (2): MacavityLock, LynchMePls
MacavityLock (2): DemonHybrid, Riceballtail

Not Voting (1): Lateralus22

Can't be scum with DH because we just hammer Rice for the win.

So in Conclusion, I can not be scum with

LMP/Rice/Mac/DH

, and of course you. I have had quick hammer possibilities leading to a win with ALL of these people yet I did not take it. So I am the SK.

I need to lynch scum today. I have no motivation to lie to you. Now help me reach me Fate. Help me kill me scum.

Bring me one step closer to winning, I've done the easy part and brought you not only one confirmed scum, BUT THE WHOLE SCUM TEAM.

Our fates are tied together Rat, if you don't help me now. You will die.

There is always tomorrow.

But victory beckons for you today.

Place the hammer, your destiny awaits.

[Lateralus22]

That's ALL you have to say Rice? If me and Mac are scum why didn't we hammer for the win? At this point I don't even need to respond to what you're saying since I'm confirmed via claim AND vote counts, you can't keep pushing your false theory.

You might as well hammer yourself, you can lose on your own terms.

[Lateralus22]

Lateralus22 (1): Riceballtail

LynchMePls

(2): pappums rat, DemonHybrid
Riceballtail (1):

MacavityLock

DemonHybrid (1): LynchMePls

Not Voting (1):

Lateralus22

Are you stupid? Why didn't we hammer LMP? We were even on during the same time.

[Lateralus22]

[Lateralus22]

Nah, I really am the SK though.

Rice is only town if he is lying about his results. I am assuming he is better than that so yeah, scum lynch. Either way we'll find out.

DH we should plan our night actions accordingly, plz don't RB me btw or I will have to kill you tomorrow. No cross kills either.

Once we're in 1:1:1 we can all follow my lead to victory.

[Lateralus22]

DH, it's not cool to lie after the claim.

But if you're telling the truth there's something really fucking wrong.

I will be pissed if I lose this game due to Rice lying or mod error. I checked my pm several times and asked the mod if the info the gave me correct so I didn't kill Rob.

[Lateralus22]

"if the info he gave me was correct.

[Lateralus22]

If I told you guys I was really a bullet proof vig would you believe me?

[Lateralus22]

=[

So... we really did lose DH? Meh.... oh well I'm one step closer to getting away from this game. Was fun. Assuming DH is lying though we can lynch him anyway tomorrow.

[Lateralus22]

/in before Rice rant about Lat scum.

Seriously, I was telling the truth about my results. I didn't kill Rob so why'd you lie about that?

[Lateralus22]

Mhm? I don't understand what you're saying. I think Rice is scum but considering our talk post lynch >.>

I was RB'ed every night, I don't know what happened N3 due to Enigma not sending a result.

My theory?

The mod made some sort of new fucked up role that RB's me every night with a bunch of other super powers >.>

Preview: RICE YOU SCUM?

[Lateralus22]

Seriously, what the fuck >.>

DH was more town and I could have bought your claim had the results fit. We could have lynched LMP then Mac. But no >.>

[Lateralus22]

mhm. I have to know before I go to sleep though, why did you lie about your N4 result?

[Lateralus22]

/May we see the flips beforehand plz?

[Lateralus22]

WTF IS THIS DH YOU FUCKING CLOWN. I CLEARLY SAID THAT YOU WERE NOT ALLOWED TO CROSS KILL WITH ME. WTF IS THIS BULL SHIT.

[Lateralus22]

Seriously, WTF. You were supposed to kill OBV town Rat or LMP who you had a grudge on for me

[Lateralus22]

...I AM THE SK

[Lateralus22]

That your post doesn't say: Claimed Scum (DH)

No more set up speculation. Tell me who is scum is if your not or claim scum now.

[Lateralus22]

Did LMP have ANY chance at quick hammering with Rice? I refuse to believe in Rat Scum.

[Lateralus22]

FFS STOP ASSUMING YOUR METHOD OF BALANCE = CORRECT.

[Lateralus22]

Wait. Why are you assuming Goon? RB'er is confirmed since I was RB'ed every time I tried to kill except last night.

[Lateralus22]

FFS I AM CONFIRMED SK. I HAD A QUICK LYNCH POSSIBILITY WITH RICE YET I DIDN'T TAKE IT. WHY THE FUCK WOULD I DO THAT AS SCUM??

NO MORE SECOND CHANCES.

Vote: DH

[Lateralus22]

Lateralus22 (SK)
LynchMePls (VT)
pappums rat (VT)
DemonHybrid (Mafia Roleblocker)

Lynch Lat

= Day End: LynchMePls/pappums rat/DemonHybrid (Mafia Roleblocker) --> Night End: pappums rat (VT)/DemonHybrid (Mafia Roleblocker) = SCUM WIN

No Lynch

= Day End: Rat/LynchMePls/pappums rat/DemonHybrid (Mafia Roleblocker) --> Night End: (pappums rat/LMP)/DemonHybrid: If both VT's die then it's 1:1 Maf/SK.

Mod: If the end game comes to 1 Mafia/1 SK who wins? Will night actions be carried out when this ratio is reached?

Lynch DH

= NO MORE MAFIA. <-------- Best. Case. Scenario.

Lynch A VT

= Day End: Lateralus/pappums rat/DemonHybrid --> Night End: Lat or Lat/DH

Mod: If the end game comes to 1 Mafia/1 SK who wins? Will night actions be carried out when this ratio is reached?

BIG QUESTION OF THE DAY.

: LMP/Rat, do you want to no Lynch and let the game fall potentially fall into only Lat and DH (1:1:1 is a 50/50 chance) OR do you want to fulfill your destiny and lynch scum?

[Lateralus22]

Yeah, LMP this is pretty much Kingmaker. Congrats, you have become a Fate, with the power to decide how this grand scheme plays out.

Lynch me DH wins
Lynch DH I win
Lynch a VT: DH/I draw or I win

[Lateralus22]

No Lynch = 1:1:1 or DH/I draw.

[Lateralus22]

^DH has advocated a lynch on himself. Excellent.

I am confirmed non-scum as I had a chance to quick hammer with Rice. Rice is confirmed scum as he did not lynch DH when he could have won easily.

The truth is crystal clear.

The decision to make is even clearer. I am assuming the town does not want to have both anti-town factions, drawing together side by side laughing at the misfortune of the town.

[Lateralus22]

*DH is confirmed scum.

[Lateralus22]

Actually since it's now fucking obvious and I obviously fail big time.

Claim: Third Party

Discuss?

Yes I agree that it is fucking bat shit crazy that scum figured out I was the SK so early on. I have no idea how they did it or if they just randomly guessed. Night two I THINK I got RB'ed but now I'm just realizing that since Rice was just a goon and that there isn't a tracker a Doc protect N2/Over a RB would make more sense. From N3 onward I would obviously get RB'ed every night as Enigma Claimed Vig.

"Shrugs" Either way the same conclusion follows.

Remember this post where I prove I'm not scum with anyone?

Seriously, it comes down to this.

Lynch the SK on suspicion he's scum WHEN HE COULD HAVE ALREADY WON THE GAME IF HE WAS SCUM

Lynch the REAL scum WHO THE OTHER CONFIRMED SCUM COULD HAVE LYNCHED IF HE WAS TOWN TO WIN THE GAME.

DH's "case" is "oh no the set up isn't balanced let's kill Lat anyway since that's my ONLY chance of winning."

Mod: Is 1 Mafia/SK/Townie a draw for all alignments?

[Lateralus22]

Mhm. So town has 0% chance of winning. Please decide who wins this phase. Preferably within a few days.

[Lateralus22]

I don't even understand your post. Your Win-Con is impossible to reach PLUS DH is 100% Scum (which is why it's more of your win-con to lynch him) the moment Rice decided not to hammer him PLUS I am 100% confirmed Not-Scum when I had a chance to hammer for the win with Rice.

If I was scum why wouldn't I quick hammer for the win with Rice?

[Lateralus22]

Semantics, Idc. When I saw Scum I refer to Mafia.

[Lateralus22]

"say

[Lateralus22]

If I was scum and I quick hammered with Rice I would have won. Explain Why I wouldn't do that as Scum.

This whole 2:10 is a false hope.

[Lateralus22]

Wait, do I have my math wrong?

[Lateralus22]

LMP. Logic /= Always Right

For example

God's name starts with L
Lat's username starts with L
Thefore Lat is God

It's because I AM telling the truth why you're scenario is laughable. Because I AM the Sk it makes no sense to lynch me. You are placing a blanket scenario on the whole situation and choosing the "maybe" lie when it is obvious I'm not Mafia.

[Lateralus22]

Rat, get in here fast and either kill me or help me live please. Whatever you do, don't let this game stall. That isn't enjoyable for anyone.

I'd feel bad if I didn't post this but eh what the hell. I'm too lazy to add the links. Enjoy for intellectual purposes or whatever the hell you guys are into.

Spoiler: Some Stuff

moose200x (1):

gonnano

jimfinn

(2): MacavityLock,

ProkhorZaharov

Mizzy

(1):

Engima

gonnano

(7): moose200x, LynchMePls,

charter

,

Riceballtail

,

StrangerCoug

, Rabies,

jimfinn

Mhm. Neat Stuff. Note about Rice's scum play, it was incredibly lazy and generic. His posting Day 1 should have ridden a wagon up on him alas, note that he never bothered to distance or go for a bus, he only played to get through the day. I'm assuming his buddy Rabies played similarly with the whole let's not be on the wagon at the same time stunt, simply look through the Mod's Iso. He is almost NEVER on the same wagon as Rice, and when he is he decided to jump off for lame reasons.

+Scum points to DH

moose200x (1):

Riceballtail

Riceballtail

(1):

Mizzy

jimfinn

(3):

charter

, DemonHybrid, MacavityLock

ProkhorZaharov

(3):

Engima

, LynchMePls,

jimfinn

Mhm, DH's entrance to the game was rather lacking. Cheerleading both lynches was scummy as hell.

+Scum points to DH

Riceballtail

(1):

Mizzy

jimfinn

(2):

charter

, MacavityLock

ProkhorZaharov

(6):

Engima

, LynchMePls,

jimfinn

, DemonHybrid,

Riceballtail

, moose200x

Not Voting (1):

ProkhorZaharov

Translation for this post: Rice hurry the fuck and help me miss lynch the townie I had a lesser preference on. It doesn't matter if people trace us back to the same wagon.

+Scum points to DH

DemonHybrid (2): MacavityLock, LynchMePls,

Engima

MacavityLock (2): DemonHybrid,

Riceballtail

Not Voting (1): moose200x

And here is where Rice claims scum with DH. Translation for this post here: DH stop bussing me plz.

+Confirmed Scum to DH

Preview Edit: LMP, You shouldn't lynch me because I'm the SK because that's equal to a Town Loss AND an SK Loss. This isn't about the town anymore.

[Lateralus22]

Quick Question: Is it possible at all to change your mind? I don't want to waste any of my time doing so if that's not possible.

[Lateralus22]

There is no cases needed, yesterday I handed you the scum team on a golden platter.

The only choices are

Lynch the SK because lying into a sweet lie will give you the comfort of "playing to your impossible to reach win con"
Lynch the Mafia and let the SK win

Please whatever you do not stall the game, even if it means I die.

Preview Edit: Thank you for your fast response LMP. I can't change your mind since you care nothing about me. Have fun falling for the most blatant lie in the history of the world. Sweet poison that you simply couldn't resist.

Heh.

Rat. You might as well kill me now. I refuse to self hammer.

[Lateralus22]

LMP if I were in your place I would look at the role interactions and choose who

I

think is scum because at this point being RIGHT would be more important to me. Not falling for a little lie because of false hope.

Preview Edit: LMP it totally is falling for a lie

Lie = Setup is 10:2
LMP: Okay Dookie guess this means I win lolz gonna lynch Lat then!

How is believe a 10:2 not falling for a lie?

[Lateralus22]

Rat, seriously, LMP will not change his mind. Please just kill me, I want out of this game.

[Lateralus22]

My god. Scum = Mafia

Stop it with the semantics Arguements. I would choose Maf over SK.

Lmp. Do you believe I'm Mafia (See I didn't use the word scum there >.>)?

Really the only thing I "kinda" care about if you really do think I'm Mafia. So do you?

[Lateralus22]

Oh how tempting it is to self hammer.

Meh. I think I'll do it, I don't really care if it's not considered playing to my win con since LMP is 99% not gonna change his mind.

So I'll do it (Lulz)

LMP just confirm you are not going to change your mind 100% and let me win and I will hand you a town loss.

Or Rat can come and kill me.

Either DH, congrats you won.

Preview: Thank the Gods Rat. You're a fuckin Saint.

[Lateralus22]

Hello everyone. Can we just lynch LynchMePls? He SUCKS as town and is GOOD at being scum. As town he only wins 33% of the time while as scum he wins a whopping 80%.

It makes the most sense to lynch LynchMePls and I shall leave my vote on him until he is lynched.

(inb4 tunneling)

vote LynchMePls

For future reference

[Lateralus22]

Yes, I was the SK. Congrats, you fell for DH's lie.

[Lateralus22]

Seriously, the question still stands.

Did you really believe I was Mafia?

Preview Edit: Lolz LMP, Thank you for answering my question.

I do not care wat definition you give it.

I consider Scum to be Mafia (Or atleast what I always refer to it as they are always the higher evil). SK Is a type of scum but I do not call them that for clarity.

Either way, congrats.

[Lateralus22]

AHAHAHAHAHAHA

Lynched by two people I figure out as town because of a "maybe" scenario they didn't even believe in.

Long live Scum.

Sweet poison, blatant lies. What a disgusting way to die.

Congrats though DH. Really.

How beautiful it was to play as a killer who only wanted to help.

[Lateralus22]

Don't worry, I'm not really mad at you specifically. (I'm actually really glad you didn't stall this out)

Still pissed though that you both bought into that when you didn't believe it. It's always annoying to die when you have scum figured out.

Preview: Eh? I don't think I played poorly this game as I did everything I could to win. In retrospect the only mistake I made this game was killing last night when I should have guessed DH would no kill.

[Lateralus22]

Wtf is this bull shit. Aight. LMP Scum then.

I swear if you're lying to me again DH when you've won the game >.>

[Lateralus22]

Yeah, I got that like a second before you posted >.>

[Lateralus22]

Meh. That's actually a really lamer ending than I expected.

[Lateralus22]

Oh yeah I was only 1 time Bullet Proof

[Lateralus22]

Next time, I'm not going to play to my Win-Con and just kill lazy people >.> DH scum deserved to win more than LMP scum >.>

[Lateralus22]

Quid? LMP scum did jack shit and BECAUSE his partner played like shit he was able to frame another Townie instead. DH played his ass off, I don't even remember anything you did this game.

I take it you were a Roleblocker?

DH is this setup still horrible unbalanced?

[Lateralus22]

DemonHybrid: 245 posts

"twitches"

[Lateralus22]

I will say though that the town did a truly awful job Day 1 and Day 2 so congrats on sliding by.

[Lateralus22]

Big Question to Rice: Why did you stall this game 1/2 weeks longer than it should have been?

[Lateralus22]

DH is the setup balanced since I'm only 1-time bullet proof?

[Lateralus22]

Scum/Dead QT please.

Ah Jail Keeper. That makes sense I suppose >.> Soz for derailling the LMP wagon for Rice scum instead. (I actually have no idea if that really is balanced, Mod could you please give the rational for the set up?)

But please, I'm very interested in the dead QT before you go.

On a side note I'm done with this game now ^_^

[Lateralus22]

>.> Can YOU at least give me the rational for the setup since the mod isn't atm?

[Lateralus22]

I have no Idea why me only being 1 time bf changes much, I just wanted to live >.>

[Lateralus22]

Mhm. I think it's because there's some theory going around saying 2:1:9 are town biased so they made you guys have a lame town for testing/kicks and giggles.

Does that make sense?

Preview: Meh

[Lateralus22]

Still interesting in Hydra'ing some time btw?

[Lateralus22]

If we do I'll be playing more as a spectator who gives you advice btw, I can not keep playing this game normally and expect to keep up with my school work. You wanna set up an account now?

[Lateralus22]

Actually, I take that back sorry. I just can't keep playing this game >.>

[Lateralus22]

Well, you did not disappoint so the wait was worth it. One thing, I tried to kill Mac N6, not that it matters. Two, by rational I mean what were you specifically going for with the setup/the reasoning for every role (I'm assuming you already did answer this in the former post so I'll read it.).

[Lateralus22]

Thank you VERY much for posting this today btw. (I hope that I can finally discipline myself now that everything is completely done and I literally have no commitments (lol) or anything to get in the way. I'm truly awful.

Anyway, I'm not sure why you're so disappointed in your later performance. I didn't have any problem at all except the wait, and it's good that you actually have a reason for delaying things rather than pure laziness/being busy. Basically, Mod who cares = good.

I mean, the only nit pick I would have is waiting cuz I don't like doing that, but it's not the end of the world.

General note about the flavor, honestly I didn't read much of it, I might go back around and read it though but the scenes with unfamiliar names was a bit off putting, since I just didn't know what was going on/the purpose of the scenes, and the ones with in-game names I looked at a bit more. (Note that I generally don't read flavor unless I REALLY enjoy a game, even then I'll probably read it post game I bother doing so.)

Lateralus22 play was also very good, but I do feel that he tried too hard to play town and ended getting lynched for it. How he managed to get so much time for it, I'll never know.

Heh. I couldn't resist joining in as a confirmed SK. Honestly I just wanted to come in, nail a few scum since generally scum are more obvious late game and screw around because I wouldn't be able to get lynched. I was trying to get a Lynch scum ----> Lynch scum again/then NK a Townie plan going but meh.

I don't understand what you mean by time, if you mean my over the top post count then well…. you kinda have an idea why I need to stop playing this game >.>

The Mafia did very well in this game. Both of them were under severe pressure at one time or another. Riceballtail avoiding attention until Day Six could be attributed to her being known for her minimalistic play, but I believed that play to her advantage and I was pretty shocked that the loose connection she established with LynchMePls wasn't spotted after her lynch. LynchMePls played a great game overall, despite being in constant danger of being lynched and I found it remarkable that he deflected his own lynch to Riceballtail. Had he been lynched Day Six instead of Riceballtail, town or SK would have stand a greater chance of winning.

Mhm. The fact that the stronger scum wagon derailed to the weaker scum was hilarious but unfortunate. I assumed that Rice was just trying to be consistent for the sake of being pro-town or whatever, I speculated that he was scum with LMP but then I was like meh considering Rice didn't hammer DH.

I also made a quick topic thread for myself regarding me talking about this game. It started out daily, but slowly moved into the occasional updates. I for one don't really feel like bringing it out, but in case anyone is interested in hearing my thoughts on the game while it was going can ask for it via PM or if a majority request, I'll send a link to it in-thread.

/Request. It's always cool to hear what the mods think.

[Lateralus22]

Wow, nice save, Rob.

And I would have appreciated it if there was an investigative role over the governor. That's all. Not even a cop...just a watcher would have done fine.

This

plus me being investigation immune

I wouldn't exactly call Gov a very powerful role (Or in the very least I haven't seen where's it's made a huge impact.) and an investigation role would have been good for the town. (The only adv 2:1:9 mafia gets is that Scum can get killed. Meanwhile the JK ability was rather, annoying since I had to go through not being Rb'ed, not choosing someone who doc protected, PLUS not choosing someone scum would JK.)

[Lateralus22]

"Town gets

[Lateralus22]

Note: Yes I'm going to keep whining about the dead QT. Does anyone have a problem with posting it?

[Lateralus22]

Thanks

[Lateralus22]

It was mod confirmed that 1:1:1 is a mafia wn.

[Lateralus22]

Yeah, I'm curious to know what the mini normal reviews had to say about the setup...

Second

[Lateralus22]

I still wonder why I was I lynched on a maybe Accusation and why you think this would have been the best course of action since I was

confirmed

non Mafia. I thought it was obvious that the day should have just been a hey lets decide which faction wins scenario.

Also the last time I saw a king maker scenario it was a draw for all alignments, though I'm not sure if this was bad or anything.

[Lateralus22]

Not quick lynching with Rice when I could have won the game as scum confirms me. (Actually, I never got the answer for why I two of us wouldn't have quick hammered if I were scum >.>)

Then again, yeah I couldn't really help the town, but it was already confirmed town loss.

[Lateralus22]

Rice, why did you drag the game out an extra week >.>?

[Lateralus22]

Am I the only one reading mod posts? It was mod confirmed that lynching ANYONE or no one as long as it wasn't scum on that day would have been a mafia win.

[Lateralus22]

What did you learn?

/curious